IMPORTANT UPDATE! ZOS PLEASE reconsider your decision to no longer make FEMALE Light armor!

MornaBaine · June 2016

Letrune wrote: »

...It is only me who wishes the heavy armours to look identical to male ones?

I actually would have no problem with that for heavy (metal) armors. It's leather and cloth that need to conform to the figure. Too often they still don't.

Letrune · June 2016

MornaBaine wrote: »

Letrune wrote: »

...It is only me who wishes the heavy armours to look identical to male ones?

I actually would have no problem with that for heavy (metal) armors. It's leather and cloth that need to conform to the figure. Too often they still don't.

I had no issue with cloth robes and shirts so far, and the few rawhide parts I have are pretty good, covering all and not skintight. I get the issue but not the "needs more boobplate" parts I see so often.

LadyNalcarya · June 2016

@Letrune wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Letrune wrote: »

...It is only me who wishes the heavy armours to look identical to male ones?

I actually would have no problem with that for heavy (metal) armors. It's leather and cloth that need to conform to the figure. Too often they still don't.

I had no issue with cloth robes and shirts so far, and the few rawhide parts I have are pretty good, covering all and not skintight. I get the issue but not the "needs more boobplate" parts I see so often.

Please, check the first pages of this thread, there's plenty of examples that some styles dot look "pretty good".
And it has nothing to do with boobplates.
Besides, your rawhide items most likely have one of the old styles, and they do have female meshes.

Lysette · June 2016

This is not about boob plates, I wear on many avatars Redguard medium, which does not have a cleavage at all. But it still fits to the female anatomy and does not look weird. I have a couple of male avatars now as well and I have to say, armor fits on a male body like a glove. So why can't we have this for females as well?- This is basically the main complain about this issue.

NBrookus · June 2016

Letrune wrote: »

...It is only me who wishes the heavy armours to look identical to male ones?

We have so many styles and craftable motifs in this game now, it's not asking too much for some variety. We have a good amount of it now. Some sexy, some rough and tough... but ultimately they should all look like clothing or armor crafted to fit a particular form.

The weird bloated distortions of some of the styles are really the main problem here.

Taisynn · June 2016

Letrune wrote: »

...It is only me who wishes the heavy armours to look identical to male ones?

Most likely, yes.

Rev Rielle · June 2016

NBrookus wrote: »

Letrune wrote: »

...It is only me who wishes the heavy armours to look identical to male ones?

We have so many styles and craftable motifs in this game now, it's not asking too much for some variety. We have a good amount of it now. Some sexy, some rough and tough... but ultimately they should all look like clothing or armor crafted to fit a particular form.

The weird bloated distortions of some of the styles are really the main problem here.

I'm still surprised this is such a new bug to people. It was around and brought up with the Imperial City DLC when it was first launched. Though I guess now that it has been affecting the PvE world also it's become much more of a known problem.

Barbet · June 2016

Just buy a women costume from the crown store.. it will all be alright.

Abeille · June 2016

Barbet wrote: »

Just buy a women costume from the crown store.. it will all be alright.

Crown Store costumes have the distortion problem too, as shown by lots of pictures in this thread.

HisShadowX · June 2016

Games die when they cater to Social Justice Warriors. I think they are trying to pull a target to make things gender neutral

Cavanoskus · June 2016

So many comments in here from people who didn't read the thread

leothedino · June 2016

I only play male characters, however this needs fixing right away! I have a friends that haven't reached this tier of armour yet, it's hideous and they are going to be appalled by it. So much so, one of them, I think, might stop playing if their characters chests look like that in light and medium armour (plate is acceptable, function of lady lump-tion).

MornaBaine · June 2016

leothedino wrote: »

I only play male characters, however this needs fixing right away! I have a friends that haven't reached this tier of armour yet, it's hideous and they are going to be appalled by it. So much so, one of them, I think, might stop playing if their characters chests look like that in light and medium armour (plate is acceptable, function of lady lump-tion).

And there are still SEVERAL styles where this is the case. Stuff that looks absolutely gorgeous on male characters. I currently have a bank alt that does nothing but hold all the armor I can't wear because it hasn't been fixed yet. SIGH.

Tamarips · June 2016

I primarily play female characters and I like them to actually look female in cloth. This new choice of theirs would need to change before I bother going out of my way to spend the, potentially long, time collecting new motifs for crafting.

leothedino · June 2016

@MornaBaine just a heads up, I have posted this on the TESO-RP forums and our EU Stormhaven RP forums asking them to come and comment, show their support and keep this thread moving. If anybody else is going to rise up like a phoenix on fire, it's the RPers. This needs sorting out, I am astonished it was allowed to happen in the first place. Actually shocked!

Sa0n · June 2016

A place where I can complain!

How about, especially for female characters, make all headgear work in a way that DOESN'T REMOVE THE HAIR.
Seriously, I don't want my stupid but beautiful Rinoa to look like a bowling ball from behind or like an egg from the front.

This being said, I'm completely positive that even the filthiest Argonian wenches of Black Marsh are more attractive than a hairless nord.

MornaBaine · June 2016

leothedino wrote: »

@MornaBaine just a heads up, I have posted this on the TESO-RP forums and our EU Stormhaven RP forums asking them to come and comment, show their support and keep this thread moving. If anybody else is going to rise up like a phoenix on fire, it's the RPers. This needs sorting out, I am astonished it was allowed to happen in the first place. Actually shocked!

Thank you very much Leo! You'd think the trade guilds would be up in arms as well. RPers buy stuff, EXPENSIVE stuff, because it looks cool. We've now started trading information so we know what to avoid purchasing which, whether they know it or not, is hitting sellers in trade guilds right in the old pocketbook.

Daraugh · June 2016

MornaBaine wrote: »

leothedino wrote: »

@MornaBaine just a heads up, I have posted this on the TESO-RP forums and our EU Stormhaven RP forums asking them to come and comment, show their support and keep this thread moving. If anybody else is going to rise up like a phoenix on fire, it's the RPers. This needs sorting out, I am astonished it was allowed to happen in the first place. Actually shocked!

Thank you very much Leo! You'd think the trade guilds would be up in arms as well. RPers buy stuff, EXPENSIVE stuff, because it looks cool. We've now started trading information so we know what to avoid purchasing which, whether they know it or not, is hitting sellers in trade guilds right in the old pocketbook.

Speaking of pocketbooks, it's amazing the crown store has (had?) motifs selling for real money that is bugged on female models. I don't know if the merc style is still there, but knowing it's bugged and charging 3000 crowns for it, for ONE motif book, amazes me.

I was not happy last night. My new tank build needs to use Bahraha's Curse and I had a hard time finding set pieces. I didn't want the chest piece to be one of them, but I got stuck with it. My poor Breton looks like she's wearing a bra designed to be worn by an aircraft carrier.

Elevensies · June 2016

Another 'agree' for the original post - changing the established TESO practice of a female mesh on armours was a bad move,

I'm not interested in any Mofits / Outfits so comparatively ugly / unfinished on female avatars compared to the existing TESO standard. If you want me to spend Crowns / Gold ZOS - you need better fluff!

BlackSparrow · June 2016

Another hard "Agree" here. My characters are ALL ladies, and most of them are light or medium armor builds. This drastically cuts down my endgame armor options, because I refuse to use armor that is modeled like that. I don't need "boob plate," but I want my characters to look like there's at least a female body under their armor!

And as a woman, I'm more than a little miffed that male is, once again, the default, despite the fact that women take up 50% of the planet.

Vikaernes · June 2016

Voicing my concern here and keeping this thread visible, I cringe every time i look at my malformed mercenary leathers, please do address this!

Abeille · June 2016

@josefcifkaeb17_ESO posted this on another thread:

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

mommadani907 wrote: »

I don't think the front view is bad, but its hard to tell on the side view because its a bit dark. Its hard to tell if it is indeed weirdly bloated.

Here's the same two costumes during the day.

EDIT: Exuse the pale skin, I skipped meals today, I was getting fat from all the gore since DB ^^

Another Crown Store costume to the list.

MornaBaine · June 2016

Abeille wrote: »

@josefcifkaeb17_ESO posted this on another thread:

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

mommadani907 wrote: »

I don't think the front view is bad, but its hard to tell on the side view because its a bit dark. Its hard to tell if it is indeed weirdly bloated.

Here's the same two costumes during the day.

EDIT: Exuse the pale skin, I skipped meals today, I was getting fat from all the gore since DB ^^

Another Crown Store costume to the list.

And this one is BRAND NEW! @ZOS_JessicaFolsom are you guys checking ANYTHING before it goes through now???? Please explain how this is STILL happening!

Theodorus · June 2016

MornaBaine wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

@josefcifkaeb17_ESO posted this on another thread:

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

mommadani907 wrote: »

I don't think the front view is bad, but its hard to tell on the side view because its a bit dark. Its hard to tell if it is indeed weirdly bloated.

Here's the same two costumes during the day.

EDIT: Exuse the pale skin, I skipped meals today, I was getting fat from all the gore since DB ^^

Another Crown Store costume to the list.

And this one is BRAND NEW! @ZOS_JessicaFolsom are you guys checking ANYTHING before it goes through now???? Please explain how this is STILL happening!

Well, when the harem girl costumes were first released, there was a weird effect that looked like the tops of the breasts were being pushed down by invisible spatulas.

They did fix that, so there's hope. But, they released the product for cash sale in that condition, so...

bugmom · June 2016

I think we need a way to reach ZOS beyond these forums. We need a way to contact someone in power and help them understand this could become a real financial issue if they continue to disrespect their female user base like this.

DaniAngione · June 2016

To be honest, I've more than double-checked and my female shape is perfectly fine with the toxin doctor costume. It actually matches the shape with my normal armor, so it seems that just the texture changes. (on that part. It's obviously not just a texture with all the other details)

I don't mean to say it's intentional - of course - but I don't think the two pictures you posted are from the same angle. The arm and elbow are clearly in different positions indicating that the toxin doctor picture is a bit more frontal (just a tiny bit) and the camera is also higher, broadening the shoulders (you can see that by the difference in the horizon line. A picture from below (left) hides the other shoulder better than a picture with a higher camera) and that's enough to get a different curvature of the body.

NBrookus · June 2016

FWIW, my male templar in a trinimac chest has boobs. Not pecs... boobs. So it's not just default male, it's screwy models altogether.

MornaBaine · June 2016

NBrookus wrote: »

FWIW, my male templar in a trinimac chest has boobs. Not pecs... boobs. So it's not just default male, it's screwy models altogether.

Could you possibly screenshot that here? They have looked at this thread before for documentation of which armors are affected and this sounds like a new problem actually so a pic would be really helpful.

notimetocare · June 2016

Robes showing boob form? Sure... but have you ever seen leather/chain armor? It is not form fitting... these erotic fantasy armors get a bit old...

josefcifkaeb17_ESO · June 2016

MornaBaine wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

@josefcifkaeb17_ESO posted this on another thread:

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

mommadani907 wrote: »

I don't think the front view is bad, but its hard to tell on the side view because its a bit dark. Its hard to tell if it is indeed weirdly bloated.

Here's the same two costumes during the day.

EDIT: Exuse the pale skin, I skipped meals today, I was getting fat from all the gore since DB ^^

Another Crown Store costume to the list.

And this one is BRAND NEW! @ZOS_JessicaFolsom are you guys checking ANYTHING before it goes through now???? Please explain how this is STILL happening!

Tell me about it... I'm quite disappointed... Spending 1000 crowns on a costume I just can't wear.
Anyway, I'm getting the feeling that this is another bug to stay.

Anyone besides me that remembers when heavy helmets actually had see through eye sockets?
The black eyes were a temporary solution to a graphics glitch, well, it's been temporary for two years now.

Here's a pic for people who aren't playing as long as I am: