IMPORTANT UPDATE! ZOS PLEASE reconsider your decision to no longer make FEMALE Light armor!

Abeille · May 2016

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

It makes me so sad that the noble dress looks so funny... today I finally made a pretty imperial girl, and this dress would match her completely, but I am not paying for that strange shape...

Do you guys know if ZOS will also fix this besides the craftable armor?

I actually like what the Noble Dress does. It is like the character is wearing a corset under the dress. But it does look weird when the character already has a small waist.

I would like if the outfits that actually have visible corsets had that effect.

Taisynn · May 2016

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

It makes me so sad that the noble dress looks so funny... today I finally made a pretty imperial girl, and this dress would match her completely, but I am not paying for that strange shape...

Do you guys know if ZOS will also fix this besides the craftable armor?

She's wearing a corset. Thus the shape.

MornaBaine · May 2016

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

It makes me so sad that the noble dress looks so funny... today I finally made a pretty imperial girl, and this dress would match her completely, but I am not paying for that strange shape...

Do you guys know if ZOS will also fix this besides the craftable armor?

This is actually one of the few costumes I don't dislike because it is supposed to give your character the appearance of wearing a corset. If you ever have worn a proper corset rather than just a "costume" one you'll know that it does pretty dramatically reshape you. I mostly object to the costumes that make it look as if my girls have shoved balloons in their blouses or like their torso is now 3 times wider than it actually is. THAT I hope they fix!

CherryCake · May 2016

I guess thats the problem then

because I do have corsets at home, but normally they still kind of go after the shape of my body, for example straight at the belly and they start to get "rounded" a bit under the breasts, but it was just my misunderstanding because I obviously never had a professional corset like that one, so I am sorry for bringing it up, I may have also made my character way too slim as @Abeille said, so I will probably try it again!

Abeille · May 2016

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

I guess thats the problem then because I do have corsets at home, but normally they still kind of go after the shape of my body, for example straight at the belly and they start to get "rounded" a bit under the breasts, but it was just my misunderstanding because I obviously never had a professional corset like that one, so I am sorry for bringing it up, I may have also made my character way too slim as @Abeille said, so I will probably try it again!

Yeah, it looks way better on my characters that are a little chubby than on my skinny ones. It makes the skinny ones look absolutely starved! Even more using the Assassin personality on the PTS, that puts them on a stance that makes them look even thinner IMO.

CherryCake · May 2016

Abeille wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

I guess thats the problem then because I do have corsets at home, but normally they still kind of go after the shape of my body, for example straight at the belly and they start to get "rounded" a bit under the breasts, but it was just my misunderstanding because I obviously never had a professional corset like that one, so I am sorry for bringing it up, I may have also made my character way too slim as @Abeille said, so I will probably try it again!

Yeah, it looks way better on my characters that are a little chubby than on my skinny ones. It makes the skinny ones look absolutely starved! Even more using the Assassin personality on the PTS, that puts them on a stance that makes them look even thinner IMO.

Exactly thats why I thought it must have been a glitch instead of a corset because it looks like the belly is insanely squished, and from the stomach it gets a huge bump up to her chest, I guess I have to delete her and remake her again but less skinny!

MornaBaine · May 2016

There's a tremendous amount of difference in the shaping of a Victorian corset vs. an Elizabethan corset, which is what this costume more closely resembles. A smooth line was sought rather than just the whittling of the waist.

Daraugh · May 2016

So as soon as the PTS was done updating and I had a mimosa in hand, I logged on to check out the Abah's Watch motif. It still looks overstuffed. On Test Breton it look like Abah's Landing needs to start springing for maternity leave. In the last two shots, I tried a Bosmer jerkin to see just the AW pants. Those look pretty decent by themselves. The fabric curves inward instead of billowing outward and so it follows her shape while keeping the fabric flow I *think* may be the goal they have in mind with this motif.

Apparently the Alliance styles aren't part of the Giant Book of Crafting you get on logging into a template character, so I can't check those for floaty, puffy pieces.

Silken Purr

Test Breton

Silken Purr Pants

Blackbird71 · May 2016

Daraugh wrote: »

Test Argonian

At the risk of starting a tangent, I have to wonder why a reptilian species even has (what appear to be) mammary glands.

Still, good to see that some improvements are in the works; there is hope!

Taisynn · May 2016

Blackbird71 wrote: »

Daraugh wrote: »

Test Argonian

At the risk of starting a tangent, I have to wonder why a reptilian species even has (what appear to be) mammary glands.

Still, good to see that some improvements are in the works; there is hope!

Because the Hist Sap decided their gender and whether they give birth via eggs or live birthing.

https://youtu.be/UucMG2N9A6k

b92303008rwb17_ESO · May 2016

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Thank you for all the feedback and screenshot examples. There are a couple different types of issues we're looking at right now. One is the issue that this thread was created for - the way some armor sets look on certain character models, particularly the female chest area, but not limited to just that.

We went through this thread and pulled all the examples of that specific issue. Here's what we have so far (in no specific order):
Trinimac's Valor set

Alliance Armor sets

Malacath Armor

Ancient Elf

Ancient Orc

Phoenix set

Meritorious Service set

Marksman's Crest set

Vicious Death set

Warrior's Fury set

Bahraha's Curse set

Syvarra's Scales set

We're also looking at your reports of armor pieces that have issues with clipping or floating, or can't be dyed. These specific items or armor sets were called out for having clipping issues, floating pieces, and/or undyeable pieces:
Soul Shriven Belt (undyeable)

Malacath Heavy helmet (removing hair)

Malacath Shield (undyeable)

Malacath Light Chest (hole in torso that looks like texture is missing)

Trinimac's Valor Light Shoulders (undyeable unless helmet is hidden, then they appear normal)

Abah's Watch Medium Armor (clipping when mixed with any other style; shoulder protection is floating on character model)

Certain armor chest pieces with tabards (Trinimac's Valor heavy, Abah's Watch heavy, Alliance Armor sets, Mercenary)

Let us know if you encounter any others! (And please be sure to /bug them in-game, too.)

The new Treasure Hunter costume still looks bugged. Is it going to be fixed in DB patch or any ETA on it?

Annalyse · May 2016

Daraugh wrote: »

So as soon as the PTS was done updating and I had a mimosa in hand, I logged on to check out the Abah's Watch motif. It still looks overstuffed. On Test Breton it look like Abah's Landing needs to start springing for maternity leave. In the last two shots, I tried a Bosmer jerkin to see just the AW pants. Those look pretty decent by themselves. The fabric curves inward instead of billowing outward and so it follows her shape while keeping the fabric flow I *think* may be the goal they have in mind with this motif.

Apparently the Alliance styles aren't part of the Giant Book of Crafting you get on logging into a template character, so I can't check those for floaty, puffy pieces.

Silken Purr

Test Breton

Silken Purr Pants

That's really disappointing. Partway through the main quest in the Thieves Guild you get a disguise that looks like this only in blue (with pants), and I was planning to keep it until I realized it was this horrible shape. I kept it anyway just in case but I doubt they will fix it because it is a disguise... I hope they at least fix that motif. I like the style.

Gidorick · May 2016

Taisynn wrote: »

Blackbird71 wrote: »

Daraugh wrote: »

Test Argonian

At the risk of starting a tangent, I have to wonder why a reptilian species even has (what appear to be) mammary glands.

Still, good to see that some improvements are in the works; there is hope!

Because the Hist Sap decided their gender and whether they give birth via eggs or live birthing.

https://youtu.be/UucMG2N9A6k

I always loved these storytellers videos but they are wrong about the Argonian and Khajiit not being able to interbreed with Men and Mer. There have been reports of half breeds but we just don't know for sure.

Artheiron · May 2016

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

And this is a common design issue, especially in Asian mmos.

And this is a common design issue in ESO:

And that is the point here, not oversexualized female characters. So lets focus on the problem at hand instead of starting flame wars over skimpy clothes in other MMOs. Itll just get the thread locked.

awesome

LadyNalcarya · May 2016

Speaking of other visual issues with female models...
Worm cult shoulders are not visually attached to char's model, they're just floating around.

Daraugh · May 2016

Those kind of floating shoulders and tassets are very apparent in the character creation screen. If you can check it out on live or the pts, by changing the hip and torso sliders you can watch the space between the armor and the body change while the armor stays static.

CokeVoAYCE · May 2016

i am not impressed by the way these new armors look. thus, i am boycotting buying any crowns costumes until this is fixed.

RoyalPink06 · May 2016

MornaBaine wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

Wow thats ridiculous. Though i do like my trinimac armor

The trinimac looks fantastic....on male characters.

actually i disagree. just made this today and was so disappointed. i couldnt use it

this character is slim but muscular, and this just makes him look bulky. and the floating hip guards just make it so much worse.

ИВАН_ВОДКА · May 2016

any ETA on fixing? i will not buy or use an new motifs because of this

ZakuBeta · May 2016

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Speaking of other visual issues with female models...
Worm cult shoulders are not visually attached to char's model, they're just floating around.

Where did you get that? Is it a costume I missed? Is it a new armor from DB?

LadyNalcarya · May 2016

ZakuBeta wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Speaking of other visual issues with female models...
Worm cult shoulders are not visually attached to char's model, they're just floating around.

Where did you get that? Is it a costume I missed? Is it a new armor from DB?

That's spell power cure set (drops in Xivkyn, but I transformed some parts into Imperial style), Dro-M'Athra skin and Worm Cult shoulders (vr15-16 version drops in any version or MoL, vr1-14 in dungeons).

ListerJMC · May 2016

No more updates on this, yet? I'd really like to be able to craft Dominion armor for my female character when DB hits without it looking horribly ill-fitted. I was in a dungeon with a male character wearing it with no distortion issues recently and ugh the jealousy

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MornaBaine · May 2016

It WOULD be really nice if we could persuade @ZOS_JessicaFolsom to stop back in here and give us some sort of update. Maybe if we give her cookies?

SkoomaAddict420 · May 2016

O, did you think this games was completed already. Sorry, won't be finished until the 10th era....

newtinmpls · May 2016

Is there some reason why the Trinimac set Epaulet's are ... floating above the rest of the character's clothing/armor?

FerrumnCutem · May 2016

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

Just wanted to add the outlaw jerkin/robe being the same at the moment (the legs look alike) whereas on the screenshots released by ZOS we can clearly see it looks different : as you can see on this picture which shows an archer with the light armor robe(it is not medium I double checked) :

We do not have this robe on live atm.

This really bothers me!
Atm I wear 5 light and 2 med outlaw chest and legs, but i really want to wear those light legs shown in the screenshot by zos. Was really excited that light armor was finnaly getting those sickass half robe leg cover thingies, but they just made the legs plain and boring

Pls fix this

khele23eb17_ESO · May 2016

FerrumnCutem wrote: »

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

Just wanted to add the outlaw jerkin/robe being the same at the moment (the legs look alike) whereas on the screenshots released by ZOS we can clearly see it looks different : as you can see on this picture which shows an archer with the light armor robe(it is not medium I double checked) :

We do not have this robe on live atm.

This really bothers me!
Atm I wear 5 light and 2 med outlaw chest and legs, but i really want to wear those light legs shown in the screenshot by zos. Was really excited that light armor was finnaly getting those sickass half robe leg cover thingies, but they just made the legs plain and boring
Pls fix this

Yes, what happened to that I wonder.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

You do understand, that, in those ages, things like armor were male?
No one made 'female' armor.
The reason was simple: if you HAPPEN to have boobies, well, tie them in, and voila: nice fit, considering man are usually a tad larger than women.
On the other hand, back then there were hardly female warriors, and those that did fight, were usually archers.

Quite logical, a woman's eye-hand coordination far exceeds that of men...

MornaBaine · May 2016

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

You do understand, that, in those ages, things like armor were male?
No one made 'female' armor.
The reason was simple: if you HAPPEN to have boobies, well, tie them in, and voila: nice fit, considering man are usually a tad larger than women.
On the other hand, back then there were hardly female warriors, and those that did fight, were usually archers.

Quite logical, a woman's eye-hand coordination far exceeds that of men...

Please go back and read the OP so you understand what this thread is about. It is about the rather massive DISTORTION of not just light armors (as was first thought) but almost ALL armor that is newer than the original racial motifs in the game. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom has already said this was not intended and fixes will be made but that was a month ago now and there has been radio silence since. So at this point we are just hoping for updates.

Rev Rielle · May 2016

It's disappointing to see that this isn't resolved.

ZoS was informed (and they acknowledged) there was this problem with the release of the Imperial City Expansion.