IMPORTANT UPDATE! ZOS PLEASE reconsider your decision to no longer make FEMALE Light armor!

LadyNalcarya

Lysette wrote: »

What really annoys me with this is, that they show the same kind of "painfully average" as at start - some content is just fantastic and then they do something like this, what is absolute crap - and hurt their reputation with it and the feeling in me is rising again, that I support a greedy company, who is not willing to put in the effort especially when they want extra money, as if they would think "well, they are addicted anyway and have to buy, they have no choice, why not just feed them crap".

Yeah, and its especially disappointing considering that they released a couple of good costumes - those wood elf tops and skirts.
Though the newest batch of costumes was datamined a while ago, so I guess they were just too lazy to fix it and thought the fans would buy them anyway... And this is a shame, after all, those costumes were supposed to be tributes to the most famous Skyrim designs.

Lysette

Vigarr wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

Anyone got a male toon screenshot. I'd like to support your cause but I'm weak. My male nord needs dat ***.

ha I hear you, my Nord man Magnus Mead-Beard needs that.

You got broken shackles?- Now I am curious how to get those.

LadyNalcarya

Lysette wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

Anyone got a male toon screenshot. I'd like to support your cause but I'm weak. My male nord needs dat ***.

ha I hear you, my Nord man Magnus Mead-Beard needs that.

You got broken shackles?- Now I am curious how to get those.

I think those are from the lvl1 soul shriven outfit that you get from the start

Lysette

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

Anyone got a male toon screenshot. I'd like to support your cause but I'm weak. My male nord needs dat ***.

ha I hear you, my Nord man Magnus Mead-Beard needs that.

You got broken shackles?- Now I am curious how to get those.

I think those are from the lvl1 soul shriven outfit that you get from the start

Ah, I skipped that with my alts, and then you don't get those - and I might have deleted them on my first character.

LadyNalcarya

Lysette wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

Anyone got a male toon screenshot. I'd like to support your cause but I'm weak. My male nord needs dat ***.

ha I hear you, my Nord man Magnus Mead-Beard needs that.

You got broken shackles?- Now I am curious how to get those.

I think those are from the lvl1 soul shriven outfit that you get from the start

Ah, I skipped that with my alts, and then you don't get those - and I might have deleted them on my first character.

Also different classes have different outfits at the start... Not sure if all of them get shackes.

khele23eb17_ESO

So, any news on this yet?

Lysette wrote: »

What really annoys me with this is, that they show the same kind of "painfully average" as at start - some content is just fantastic and then they do something like this, what is absolute crap - and hurt their reputation with it and the feeling in me is rising again, that I support a greedy company, who is not willing to put in the effort especially when they want extra money, as if they would think "well, they are addicted anyway and have to buy, they have no choice, why not just feed them crap".

Not only have they not fixed the already mentioned stuff, theyre releasing new stuff with the same and/or related issue. And taking money for it. Classy, ZOS.

Lysette

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

So, any news on this yet?

Heres something new from the PTS:

Lysette wrote: »

What really annoys me with this is, that they show the same kind of "painfully average" as at start - some content is just fantastic and then they do something like this, what is absolute crap - and hurt their reputation with it and the feeling in me is rising again, that I support a greedy company, who is not willing to put in the effort especially when they want extra money, as if they would think "well, they are addicted anyway and have to buy, they have no choice, why not just feed them crap".

Not only have they not fixed the already mentioned stuff, theyre releasing new stuff with the same and/or related issue. And taking money for it. Classy, ZOS.

Well, I am not going to buy those - one makes me fat, the other steals my gender identity - they can just keep it and I keep my money. Honestly I have seen enough from this game for today, just a few minutes online and testing those outfits, has taken all my urge to play ESO for today - I will play something else now.

Villious

MornaBaine wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Just checked the new costumes, and I have no words. Just look at this:

0/10 not gonna buy.


@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

I'm really shocked these were put out considering they KNOW there's a problem. What gives @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ???

What gives, is that they know people will buy them regardless. What incentive do they have to put forth the extra effort? Until players start voting with their wallets, this will stay standard operating procedure.

ikza

ZOS_DaryaK wrote: »

We've removed some posts that were derailing this discussion.

If you have nothing to say, say nothing.

MornaBaine

Taisynn wrote: »

I hope they answer us on this week's ESO Live... Because this is ridiculous.

Is that today? I really hope they get hammered with questions about this since they aren't saying anything here.

waterfairy

Lysette wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

Anyone got a male toon screenshot. I'd like to support your cause but I'm weak. My male nord needs dat ***.

ha I hear you, my Nord man Magnus Mead-Beard needs that.

You got broken shackles?- Now I am curious how to get those.

The same way he got the bite on his shoulder


Seriously though you start with them...wish you could craft these as a viable hand armor piece.

phreatophile

Vigarr wrote: »

Seriously though you start with them...wish you could craft these as a viable hand armor piece.

I remember in TES:IV they could be enchanted and used throughout the game, but there was only the one set from the opening sequence.

waterfairy

phreatophile wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

Seriously though you start with them...wish you could craft these as a viable hand armor piece.

I remember in TES:IV they could be enchanted and used throughout the game, but there was only the one set from the opening sequence.

I saved those because I hoarded everything in Oblivion but never bothered to use them. I guess I should thank ZOS for limiting our storage space as it broke the hoarding addiction that TES games have caused.

Daraugh

Vigarr wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

Anyone got a male toon screenshot. I'd like to support your cause but I'm weak. My male nord needs dat ***.

ha I hear you, my Nord man Magnus Mead-Beard needs that.

You got broken shackles?- Now I am curious how to get those.

The same way he got the bite on his shoulder


Seriously though you start with them...wish you could craft these as a viable hand armor piece.

If the shackles were a craftable style, my DK would be wearing them!

phreatophile

Not for long, with crafting bag incoming, my virtual hoarding can begin again.

Oh, Oblivion. I still remember learning about video game physics the hard way when I dropped around 100 gems individually into a glass case and closed it. Went everywhere. Good times.

Back to business before I derail any more...

Has anyone seen the Black Hand costumes on PTS? Are they as deformed as some of the others?

Osteos

Callous2208 wrote: »

Anyone got a male toon screenshot. I'd like to support your cause but I'm weak. My male nord needs dat ***.

I dont think it looks much better on males. It bulges out in the back

Callous2208

paleobonesb14_ESO wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

Anyone got a male toon screenshot. I'd like to support your cause but I'm weak. My male nord needs dat ***.

I dont think it looks much better on males. It bulges out in the back

Yea, I can see what you mean. I actually don't mind that too much though. Maybe it's just my eyes, but it doesn't seem to be as noticeable on my nord. He's a good deal thicker all around than your character in this picture. Hehe, it's probably the same and I'm just not noticing it.

Lysette

I have tested that dragon warrior outfit now on all my characters - it looks ok on a male character, on 6 of my female characters it looks really weird, but strangely enough not on the 7th, it fits her perfectly ... but she is the tallest and less muscular one (even all my characters are somewhat athletic). Well, with less muscular one goes hand in hand that her chest is less than average (due to less breast muscle mass, my reasoning) and her waist has a model ratio, so she does not look fat in that outfit.

In a way it's like in real life - an outfit looks good on one woman but not on another, even both might not even differ that much in shape, size and weight.

MornaBaine

paleobonesb14_ESO wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

Anyone got a male toon screenshot. I'd like to support your cause but I'm weak. My male nord needs dat ***.

I dont think it looks much better on males. It bulges out in the back

Wow that's really weird!

MornaBaine

Anyone know if this issue was addressed on ESO Live???

Lysette

MornaBaine wrote: »

Anyone know if this issue was addressed on ESO Live???

No, wasn't - just DB stuff and veteran rank removal was discussed with some showcase footage in Anvil and Kvatch.

MornaBaine

Lysette wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Anyone know if this issue was addressed on ESO Live???

No, wasn't - just DB stuff and veteran rank removal was discussed with some showcase footage in Anvil and Kvatch.

Grrrr.... that sucks. I was so hopeful when @ZOS_JessicaFolsom made her comments here. And now nearly a month has gone by and....nothing. They even put out new costumes with the same existing problems. What gives ZOS????

Valen_Byte

Number_51 wrote: »

Wow! If I may use one of your images @helediron, this is just terribad.



It's almost as if they just don't care.

That is literally the ugliest armor I have ever seen in any game. Just awful.

WalkingLegacy

MornaBaine wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Anyone know if this issue was addressed on ESO Live???

No, wasn't - just DB stuff and veteran rank removal was discussed with some showcase footage in Anvil and Kvatch.

Grrrr.... that sucks. I was so hopeful when @ZOS_JessicaFolsom made her comments here. And now nearly a month has gone by and....nothing. They even put out new costumes with the same existing problems. What gives ZOS????

I like how they're censoring posts in this thread.

Remember, their not making a specific female mesh anymore. And its not designed to fit your character. It is a premade body put under your head that is suppose to closely match your created body.

Think I saw this around episode 25-27.

Lysette

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Anyone know if this issue was addressed on ESO Live???

No, wasn't - just DB stuff and veteran rank removal was discussed with some showcase footage in Anvil and Kvatch.

Grrrr.... that sucks. I was so hopeful when @ZOS_JessicaFolsom made her comments here. And now nearly a month has gone by and....nothing. They even put out new costumes with the same existing problems. What gives ZOS????

I like how they're censoring posts in this thread.

Remember, their not making a specific female mesh anymore. And its not designed to fit your character. It is a premade body put under your head that is suppose to closely match your created body.

Think I saw this around episode 25-27.

And this is terrible and disgusting actually - it is like you go to a restaurant, choose what you want to eat and compose your menu, just to get something else than what you wanted which is just slightly similar - like you would order onion soup baked over with cheese and you get borscht with some sour cream on top. The similarity is both is vegetable based with some dairy product on top - it is an illusion of choice actually, you can make choices, but they do not really matter. Well, I can do the same, I choose to play ESO, but in fact I am going to play something similar and give my money to another company. Maybe then they will understand, what it is like.

Taisynn

They seriously just do not care about their female player base... Isn't our money good enough, ZOS? Because a lot of people play female characters, even men do, because they like the way they look. You're cutting off income here! Please fit armor to the female body better!

Lysette

Taisynn wrote: »

They seriously just do not care about their female player base... Isn't our money good enough, ZOS? Because a lot of people play female characters, even men do, because they like the way they look. You're cutting off income here! Please fit armor to the female body better!

Not just income is cut off - with some costumes gender identity is cut off - dragon priest costume for example. I find this discriminating and I want this changed. To discriminate against a gender is as bad as discrimination against a race. It is bad and it has to be called out for what it is. If some see this as a trivial issue, it is not, basically all of the development of the female teenage brain is about attraction and learning the mating game. It is a highly important matter in female development and in the life of an adult woman later on. That is why we are shopping that much and have a far greater wardrobe than men. To cut this off from us is not respecting our personality as women. And it hurts to be neglected like this and discriminated.

Taisynn

@Lysette I have to agree. I just try to avoid commenting on gender issues and equality because it so quickly becomes a heated debate on these forums. Too many immature or uneducated people to have the empathy to understand it.

I'm just really sad they are completely disregarding women. If they didn't want to make female armor, they should have never put females into the game. And what's the point in sliders if the motifs and costumes don't use them anyway.

ZOS is just... This is just really, really sloppy and lazy work, and just overall offensive.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Number_51 wrote: »

Oh, yuck. It looks like someone just chopped the torso out of a different person and replaced hers.

khele23eb17_ESO

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Number_51 wrote: »

Oh, yuck. It looks like someone just chopped the torso out of a different person and replaced hers.

This is one of the ugliest things ive seen in MMOs so far.