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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

IMPORTANT UPDATE! ZOS PLEASE reconsider your decision to no longer make FEMALE Light armor!

  • Lysette
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    Daraugh wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    They said they were going to fix it, then release new costumes that make females look even more exactly like males -

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    ZOS you realise these are costumes we won't ever be buying right?

    Does this not hit you in the pocket...would have thought this would be enough to get your attention (loss of potential earnings).


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    Wow those are awful, male or female. Still I don't even want to think about the added distortion for females. What a wasted opportunity to make awesome Dragon costumes so grungy and dull. The second ones look like they should be carrying bloody chainsaws, but they're in the wrong era.

    From my point of view, they can keep this stuff - I don't want it - and my only male character is happy with his cultural argonian gear, which goes well with his scales, he does not need a costume. A lost sale opportunity, ZOS, very sad, that you are that mediocre to rightout terrible in some parts of the game and so fantastic in others - this is what makes it so disappointing.
  • Volkodav
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    Laranoye wrote: »
    This whole thread, to me... just seems like some guys without girlfriends cant see proper boobs in game haha.

    I am a woman,and if I wanted my character to have the figure of a man,I would have made her a man. I only have two females and they dont look nice anymore in Light armor.And now it seems soon they wont look good in any armor.However,at least the costumes are reflecting the female shape quite nicely.Even the Elven Hero costumes looks nice on our lady characters. :)
  • CherryCake
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    Abeille wrote: »
    It is labbeled on the most recent datamining post as "Bosmer Female High".

    http://elderscrolls.net/2016/04/26/16849-tes-online-budushhee-kronnogo-magazina-patch-2-4-0/


    Oh, and costumes appear on the character selection now if you are wondering. Your active pet and mount too!

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    OH MY OH MY I CANT WAAAAIIIIITTTTTTT <3<3<3

    That one will be sooooo good for my roleplay <3<3<3

    And this one too!!!

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  • Mr.Hmm
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    babylon wrote: »
    They said they were going to fix it, then release new costumes that make females look even more exactly like males -

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    ZOS you realise these are costumes we won't ever be buying right?

    Does this not hit you in the pocket...would have thought this would be enough to get your attention (loss of potential earnings).


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    Agreed but still.... I will be using my crowns to buy the costumes that exist in the shop so.... I will have them, eventually even the ones that look really bad on my Redguard and Breton.
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  • Lysette
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    Mr.Hmm wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    They said they were going to fix it, then release new costumes that make females look even more exactly like males -

    a6a9658d0719b197c6696c798cbd799b.jpg

    19ac197b1be0ba1f352f9a6d5ec37831.jpg


    ZOS you realise these are costumes we won't ever be buying right?

    Does this not hit you in the pocket...would have thought this would be enough to get your attention (loss of potential earnings).


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    Agreed but still.... I will be using my crowns to buy the costumes that exist in the shop so.... I will have them, eventually even the ones that look really bad on my Redguard and Breton.

    I have done that as well, against better knowledge even. But I regret it, because I am not going to wear those.
  • Daraugh
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    Considering the good work they can do, the dresses below I can't wait for, I don't understand the horrible stretching with some armor.

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  • Ra'Shtar
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    This is how one of the new costumes looks on a female.
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    She has a very unique body shape :D
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  • Abeille
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    About the latest Crown Store Showcase, I am really worried that they are removing some clothes from the Crown Store, especially the High-Collared Coin Ball Gown.

    It is one of the outfits with the worst deformation issues. I am afraid that, once no one else can buy it anymore, they won't bother to fix it ~.~
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    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
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    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
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  • MornaBaine
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    Abeille wrote: »
    About the latest Crown Store Showcase, I am really worried that they are removing some clothes from the Crown Store, especially the High-Collared Coin Ball Gown.

    It is one of the outfits with the worst deformation issues. I am afraid that, once no one else can buy it anymore, they won't bother to fix it ~.~

    Well there's been no indication yet that they plan to fix any of the crown store outfits. They did manage to improve the legs of the dancing girl outfits. Yet the deformation of the chest issues remain even on those.
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  • Lysette
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    About the latest Crown Store Showcase, I am really worried that they are removing some clothes from the Crown Store, especially the High-Collared Coin Ball Gown.

    It is one of the outfits with the worst deformation issues. I am afraid that, once no one else can buy it anymore, they won't bother to fix it ~.~

    Well there's been no indication yet that they plan to fix any of the crown store outfits. They did manage to improve the legs of the dancing girl outfits. Yet the deformation of the chest issues remain even on those.

    And the changes to the salwar outfit (dancing girl :smile: ) are maybe good for some, but not for my characters, because they let the thighs appear smaller than they are on my characters. So to me this outfit is ruined, I do not use it any longer.
  • Daraugh
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    Here's the medium Mercenary on my Breton. The warp on the buckles is terrible, the squared chest, the accordion pants, the only merc piece that looks right is the shoulder. (The rest is all Breton style.)
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    And for contrast, how the chest should look. Light armor on a male character.
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    Edited by Daraugh on May 4, 2016 8:58PM
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    Daraugh wrote: »
    Here's the medium Mercenary on my Breton. The warp on the buckles, the squared chest, the accordion pants, the only merc piece the looks right is the shoulder. (The rest is all Breton style.)
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    And for contrast, how the chest should look. Light armor on a male character.
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    Off-topic: Which blue dye are you using on the altmer's outfit? Looks really nice. ^^
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  • Manpoints
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    Dont know a single female player that's stoked they get an ironing board under their shirt from now on. On the upside Akaviri light crafting requests are maintaining though.

    Has it been confirmed? Is it a budget thing (copy/paste)? Or a #cosfeminism thing?
    Edited by Manpoints on May 4, 2016 4:17PM
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  • Daraugh
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    @KoshkaMurka, not one of my characters, but yeah it's a really nicely put together Altmer!
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  • Valrien
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    Daraugh wrote: »
    Here's the medium Mercenary on my Breton. The warp on the buckles, the squared chest, the accordion pants, the only merc piece the looks right is the shoulder. (The rest is all Breton style.)
    1LlHoj9.png

    9YcW8pC.png

    And for contrast, how the chest should look. Light armor on a male character.
    Zj5ixN9.png

    Off-topic: Which blue dye are you using on the altmer's outfit? Looks really nice. ^^

    The light and medium armor chests look different anyways. It looks fine to me, honestly.
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  • helediron
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    DB patch will deliver still few balloons. They thematically belong to thieves guild. I think they were made actually for TG patch, but got delayed. Two armors fit for coke bottle.

    Thieves Guild light armor:
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    Abah's Watch light armor:
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    The new Assassin's League light armor, better:
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    Hopefully the last one is indicator that ZOS learned their lesson. Although it's another browngray rogue armor, at least it honors character customization.

    More pictures here , both male and female. The background in these new pictures is Kvatch btw.

    I really hope at least Trinimac and Abah's Watch get fixed. They are good styles on every other aspect.
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  • Taisynn
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    I'm really hoping they start making the armor fit the female form again. Hell, they could hire some people from Second Life who could rig and texture it correctly. Some may be hobbiests, but I know one creator (personal friend) who freelances for game developers too. (And hey, bb, if you're reading this!)

    Please; the armor doesn't have to be sexy, but we'd do anything to have the armor not look deformed!
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  • Kainos98
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    I've noticed there's a lot of disregard for respect to the female gamers who actually enjoy looking sexy in game as much as they do in real life, I mean besides ESO....look at what Rockstar did with GTA Online lol, before you know it, female models in most games will be indistinguishable from males at this rate lol. Like I said in another post related to this issue, why the hell even give us shape sliders, tattoos, and scars if this is how it's gonna be with armors...we should all just start playing without armor and costumes :smiley:
    Edited by Kainos98 on May 4, 2016 7:55PM
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    Wow! If I may use one of your images @helediron, this is just terribad.

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    It's almost as if they just don't care.
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    Number_51 wrote: »
    Wow! If I may use one of your images @helediron, this is just terribad.

    It's almost as if they just don't care.

    oh wow, looks like a female elf's head was switched with a male orc's body...I didn't know it was that bad, lmao.
    Edited by Kainos98 on May 4, 2016 8:06PM
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    Kainos98 wrote: »
    Number_51 wrote: »
    Wow! If I may use one of your images @helediron, this is just terribad.

    It's almost as if they just don't care.

    oh wow, looks like a female elf's head was switched with a male orc's body...I didn't know it was that bad, lmao.

    Then you have not seen the nightmother's embrace heavy chest piece yet - that includes as well shoulders and the upper arms, makes my character's shoulder like 1.75 times as wide and the rest of it is so bulky that my characters waist appears to be at least 1.5 times as wide and chest part is just pulled out and could encase twice double-Ds. If you ever got the shoulder pieces of this armor set - these float that far away from the shoulders, because once the chest piece of the armor is worn, they actually attach to the armor - so you can imagine how wide and bulky that armor piece actually is.
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    You know, it almost looks like my old granny did...

    ... you know, after the parts that attracted grandpa went south for the winter...

    ....... and she had already had way to many buns in the oven...
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    The image I posted, from @helediron, is of the Thieves Guild style in heavy weight. I believe that is the style that was used for the new Night Mother's Embrace set.

    From the front...

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    Edited by Number_51 on May 4, 2016 8:49PM
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    Number_51 wrote: »
    The image I posted, from @helediron, is of the Thieves Guild style in heavy weight. I believe that is the style that was used for the new Night Mother's Embrace set.

    From the front...

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    Yes, that is the style - and why my altmer is now wearing a pirat costume.
    Edited by Lysette on May 4, 2016 8:54PM
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    Abeille wrote: »
    About the latest Crown Store Showcase, I am really worried that they are removing some clothes from the Crown Store, especially the High-Collared Coin Ball Gown.

    It is one of the outfits with the worst deformation issues. I am afraid that, once no one else can buy it anymore, they won't bother to fix it ~.~

    Maybe that's their "fix"
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    About the latest Crown Store Showcase, I am really worried that they are removing some clothes from the Crown Store, especially the High-Collared Coin Ball Gown.

    It is one of the outfits with the worst deformation issues. I am afraid that, once no one else can buy it anymore, they won't bother to fix it ~.~

    Maybe that's their "fix"

    i tried it on those of my females, which have a rather small chest - and on them it looks quite ok, it is distorted but with smaller breast sizes it is not that bad.
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    Number_51 wrote: »
    Wow! If I may use one of your images @helediron, this is just terribad.

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    It's almost as if they just don't care.

    I could make a joke about how Altmer are long lived and gravity happens, but I'm too sad. That is horrible. :'( What are her proportions if she isn't wearing that travesty?
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  • Fugue
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom if you get a chance, could you update this thread on what is going on with the issue? I know it isn't a balance/game play problem, but... it would be nice to see that it is being worked on, especially since as others have indicated the art showing showcased new content of the crown store looks like it is not.

    I know a female player I group with would have bought some of the costumes/armor sets except for the fact of the model distortions. So although not a gameplay issue, it might be a financial one.
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    Number_51 wrote: »
    Wow! If I may use one of your images @helediron, this is just terribad.
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    It's almost as if they just don't care.
    @Number_51 , you may use. IIRC i sent bug report about the shoulders, because they moved really weirdly.
    Just saying that the topic of this thread has been light armor. With some stretching (pun intended) the heavy armors might be explainable.
    Edited by helediron on May 4, 2016 9:53PM
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    Fugue wrote: »
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom if you get a chance, could you update this thread on what is going on with the issue? I know it isn't a balance/game play problem, but... it would be nice to see that it is being worked on, especially since as others have indicated the art showing showcased new content of the crown store looks like it is not.

    I know a female player I group with would have bought some of the costumes/armor sets except for the fact of the model distortions. So although not a gameplay issue, it might be a financial one.

    That's how I feel. I like most of the outfits, and I would buy them if it wasn't for the body distortions :(
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

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    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
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