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IMPORTANT UPDATE! ZOS PLEASE reconsider your decision to no longer make FEMALE Light armor!

  • MornaBaine
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    AddictionX wrote: »
    So back to the OP, this has now been turned into a "fix this distortion" Thread but nothing on the female armor.

    They are in some ways one and the same. Since SOME of the armor they've put out (like the Ancient Orc) DOES fit the female form properly we can't know for sure how changing the way the modeling is done is really the problem though it certainly seems like a likely culprit. I am really looking forward to the explanation for how this came about.
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  • Tapio75
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    So... Is this the reason why most females look so unnatural on the torso part everywhere?

    I have been looking at some of the NPC's i hafve been speaking with and the torso section looks terrible.
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  • MornaBaine
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    Tapio75 wrote: »
    So... Is this the reason why most females look so unnatural on the torso part everywhere?

    I have been looking at some of the NPC's i hafve been speaking with and the torso section looks terrible.

    Yep that would be the reason. We're still waiting to hear back from @ZOS_JessicaFolsom for an update on this issue.
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  • AtraisMachina
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    Wow thats ridiculous. Though i do like my trinimac armor
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    Wow thats ridiculous. Though i do like my trinimac armor

    The trinimac looks fantastic....on male characters.
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  • Elsterchen
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    since we're on the topic of distortion, just noticed this tonight with xivkyn heavy legs on my female sorc... since when are hips this pointy?

    [img][/img]image_zps7yyuf6ap.jpeg

    Riding bumps!

    She needs to walk some more :wink:
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    It's literally been almost a month since this was posted. An official response here, even if only to point us to other places where some information on what is being done on this issue would be very much appreciated @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GaryA . Thank you.
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  • RoyalPink06
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    Elsterchen wrote: »
    since we're on the topic of distortion, just noticed this tonight with xivkyn heavy legs on my female sorc... since when are hips this pointy?

    [img][/img]image_zps7yyuf6ap.jpeg

    Riding bumps!

    She needs to walk some more :wink:


    Ya, she and her horse have matching saddlebags! Fortunately, I can turn them off on the horse. Unfortunately, I can't turn them off on her. Ah well, they are under her gorgeous ancient orc robe anyway. :wink:

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  • Lysette
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    Well if you ever come across the chest piece of the Nightmother's embrace set, this makes your character really bulky, because that chest piece is so wide in the shoulder area, that it fits to the otherwise far away floating shoulder pieces. The chest piece's front is so bulky, that even double D would fit into it and have still lots of air space between skin and armor. My tall and slender altmer looks like a bulky warrior now, but at least the shoulder pieces do no longer float but fit to that armor. Other shoulder pieces cannot be used, because they glitch into the chest piece of that armor.
    Edited by Lysette on April 29, 2016 3:49PM
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    It's literally been almost a month since this was posted. An official response here, even if only to point us to other places where some information on what is being done on this issue would be very much appreciated @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GaryA . Thank you.

    You've been around long enough to know ZOS-time doesn't work like that @MornaBaine . Why deliver results when promises are good enough to keep most players happy. :wink:

    But seriously, I wouldn't expect any changes until at LEAST dark brotherhood release.
    Edited by Gidorick on April 29, 2016 4:01PM
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Daraugh wrote: »
    Also, I noticed that 2 new costumes dont seem to deform character's waist and chest, like older outfits.
    Qkv7mqL.jpg
    Would be nice if they fixed the problem on non-crown store items as well.

    So it looks like they did a good job on the new costume! Awesome, I can't wait to log in this evening. Good to see some bug fixes happening here.

    The only reason why I didn't buy one of them is because they look so similar that I can't justify buying both, but they are so great that I can't decide which one to buy!

    I might wait for a "third" one to decide. You know, how Redguard and Breton outfits got the 500 Crowns and the 700 Crowns ones first, and then one that costs 1000 Crowns. I'm hoping for a third one for the Bosmer outfits too.

    If the data mining for Thieves Guild was complete, it looks like they don't have plans to release a third version of this (at least it's not been put in yet) So if you do want to wait you may be waiting for some time.

    elderscrolls.net/2016/02/04/16200-tes-online-budushhee-magazina-tovarov-za-krony-patch-2-3-0/?from=reddit

    Here's a link to the data mining for Thieves Guild Update. DB is almost here though so maybe someone will kindly data mine for DB and you can see if there are more Bosmer outfits on their way.
  • Lysette
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    Inarre wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    Daraugh wrote: »
    Also, I noticed that 2 new costumes dont seem to deform character's waist and chest, like older outfits.
    Qkv7mqL.jpg
    Would be nice if they fixed the problem on non-crown store items as well.

    So it looks like they did a good job on the new costume! Awesome, I can't wait to log in this evening. Good to see some bug fixes happening here.

    The only reason why I didn't buy one of them is because they look so similar that I can't justify buying both, but they are so great that I can't decide which one to buy!

    I might wait for a "third" one to decide. You know, how Redguard and Breton outfits got the 500 Crowns and the 700 Crowns ones first, and then one that costs 1000 Crowns. I'm hoping for a third one for the Bosmer outfits too.

    If the data mining for Thieves Guild was complete, it looks like they don't have plans to release a third version of this (at least it's not been put in yet) So if you do want to wait you may be waiting for some time.

    elderscrolls.net/2016/02/04/16200-tes-online-budushhee-magazina-tovarov-za-krony-patch-2-3-0/?from=reddit

    Here's a link to the data mining for Thieves Guild Update. DB is almost here though so maybe someone will kindly data mine for DB and you can see if there are more Bosmer outfits on their way.

    The bosmer high is in the dataminded stuff of the DB DLC - it is a light greenish dress.
  • Abeille
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    Inarre wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    Daraugh wrote: »
    Also, I noticed that 2 new costumes dont seem to deform character's waist and chest, like older outfits.
    Qkv7mqL.jpg
    Would be nice if they fixed the problem on non-crown store items as well.

    So it looks like they did a good job on the new costume! Awesome, I can't wait to log in this evening. Good to see some bug fixes happening here.

    The only reason why I didn't buy one of them is because they look so similar that I can't justify buying both, but they are so great that I can't decide which one to buy!

    I might wait for a "third" one to decide. You know, how Redguard and Breton outfits got the 500 Crowns and the 700 Crowns ones first, and then one that costs 1000 Crowns. I'm hoping for a third one for the Bosmer outfits too.

    If the data mining for Thieves Guild was complete, it looks like they don't have plans to release a third version of this (at least it's not been put in yet) So if you do want to wait you may be waiting for some time.

    elderscrolls.net/2016/02/04/16200-tes-online-budushhee-magazina-tovarov-za-krony-patch-2-3-0/?from=reddit

    Here's a link to the data mining for Thieves Guild Update. DB is almost here though so maybe someone will kindly data mine for DB and you can see if there are more Bosmer outfits on their way.

    DB has the one that is supposed to be the third one on the shop already. It is called "treethane ceremonial wear" I think, and it is very pretty although it looks nothing like the first two.

    It is labbeled on the most recent datamining post as "Bosmer Female High".

    http://elderscrolls.net/2016/04/26/16849-tes-online-budushhee-kronnogo-magazina-patch-2-4-0/
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

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    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
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  • MornaBaine
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    It's literally been almost a month since this was posted. An official response here, even if only to point us to other places where some information on what is being done on this issue would be very much appreciated @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GaryA . Thank you.

    You've been around long enough to know ZOS-time doesn't work like that @MornaBaine . Why deliver results when promises are good enough to keep most players happy. :wink:

    But seriously, I wouldn't expect any changes until at LEAST dark brotherhood release.

    Oh I don't expect them to actually FIX all of it until then. I am just hoping for some word explaining what caused the problem and what their game plan is...even if there's "No ETA."
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  • Lysette
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Inarre wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    Daraugh wrote: »
    Also, I noticed that 2 new costumes dont seem to deform character's waist and chest, like older outfits.
    Qkv7mqL.jpg
    Would be nice if they fixed the problem on non-crown store items as well.

    So it looks like they did a good job on the new costume! Awesome, I can't wait to log in this evening. Good to see some bug fixes happening here.

    The only reason why I didn't buy one of them is because they look so similar that I can't justify buying both, but they are so great that I can't decide which one to buy!

    I might wait for a "third" one to decide. You know, how Redguard and Breton outfits got the 500 Crowns and the 700 Crowns ones first, and then one that costs 1000 Crowns. I'm hoping for a third one for the Bosmer outfits too.

    If the data mining for Thieves Guild was complete, it looks like they don't have plans to release a third version of this (at least it's not been put in yet) So if you do want to wait you may be waiting for some time.

    elderscrolls.net/2016/02/04/16200-tes-online-budushhee-magazina-tovarov-za-krony-patch-2-3-0/?from=reddit

    Here's a link to the data mining for Thieves Guild Update. DB is almost here though so maybe someone will kindly data mine for DB and you can see if there are more Bosmer outfits on their way.

    DB has the one that is supposed to be the third one on the shop already. It is called "treethane ceremonial wear" I think, and it is very pretty although it looks nothing like the first two.

    It is labbeled on the most recent datamining post as "Bosmer Female High".

    http://elderscrolls.net/2016/04/26/16849-tes-online-budushhee-kronnogo-magazina-patch-2-4-0/

    What does it look like on the backside and how long is it?
  • ArchMikem
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    God forbid we have anything remotely attractive when it comes to female armor.

    [Edited to remove inappropriate content]

    It's a Medieval setting. Armor wasn't built to be attractive/sexy. It's supposed to be practical.
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  • Lysette
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    The toxin doctor is an amazing costume IMO - it is similar to the plague doctor masks used in real history - as strange and alien as it might look, it was actually used in real life in former times.

    I might as well be interested in the imperial low dress - for it's simplicity and sometimes less is more.
  • Abeille
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    Inarre wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    Daraugh wrote: »
    Also, I noticed that 2 new costumes dont seem to deform character's waist and chest, like older outfits.
    Qkv7mqL.jpg
    Would be nice if they fixed the problem on non-crown store items as well.

    So it looks like they did a good job on the new costume! Awesome, I can't wait to log in this evening. Good to see some bug fixes happening here.

    The only reason why I didn't buy one of them is because they look so similar that I can't justify buying both, but they are so great that I can't decide which one to buy!

    I might wait for a "third" one to decide. You know, how Redguard and Breton outfits got the 500 Crowns and the 700 Crowns ones first, and then one that costs 1000 Crowns. I'm hoping for a third one for the Bosmer outfits too.

    If the data mining for Thieves Guild was complete, it looks like they don't have plans to release a third version of this (at least it's not been put in yet) So if you do want to wait you may be waiting for some time.

    elderscrolls.net/2016/02/04/16200-tes-online-budushhee-magazina-tovarov-za-krony-patch-2-3-0/?from=reddit

    Here's a link to the data mining for Thieves Guild Update. DB is almost here though so maybe someone will kindly data mine for DB and you can see if there are more Bosmer outfits on their way.

    DB has the one that is supposed to be the third one on the shop already. It is called "treethane ceremonial wear" I think, and it is very pretty although it looks nothing like the first two.

    It is labbeled on the most recent datamining post as "Bosmer Female High".

    http://elderscrolls.net/2016/04/26/16849-tes-online-budushhee-kronnogo-magazina-patch-2-4-0/

    What does it look like on the backside and how long is it?

    Here @Lysette , take a look. Sorry for the quality, I'm on my notebook for the weekend. This is not really something my Bosmer would wear, but I think it looks pretty. Just not on her, she is more of a "wild" type and the dress is very elegant in my opinion.

    Oh, and costumes appear on the character selection now if you are wondering. Your active pet and mount too!

    wZyxpzx.jpg
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • Lysette
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Lysette wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    Inarre wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    Daraugh wrote: »
    Also, I noticed that 2 new costumes dont seem to deform character's waist and chest, like older outfits.
    Qkv7mqL.jpg
    Would be nice if they fixed the problem on non-crown store items as well.

    So it looks like they did a good job on the new costume! Awesome, I can't wait to log in this evening. Good to see some bug fixes happening here.

    The only reason why I didn't buy one of them is because they look so similar that I can't justify buying both, but they are so great that I can't decide which one to buy!

    I might wait for a "third" one to decide. You know, how Redguard and Breton outfits got the 500 Crowns and the 700 Crowns ones first, and then one that costs 1000 Crowns. I'm hoping for a third one for the Bosmer outfits too.

    If the data mining for Thieves Guild was complete, it looks like they don't have plans to release a third version of this (at least it's not been put in yet) So if you do want to wait you may be waiting for some time.

    elderscrolls.net/2016/02/04/16200-tes-online-budushhee-magazina-tovarov-za-krony-patch-2-3-0/?from=reddit

    Here's a link to the data mining for Thieves Guild Update. DB is almost here though so maybe someone will kindly data mine for DB and you can see if there are more Bosmer outfits on their way.

    DB has the one that is supposed to be the third one on the shop already. It is called "treethane ceremonial wear" I think, and it is very pretty although it looks nothing like the first two.

    It is labbeled on the most recent datamining post as "Bosmer Female High".

    http://elderscrolls.net/2016/04/26/16849-tes-online-budushhee-kronnogo-magazina-patch-2-4-0/

    What does it look like on the backside and how long is it?

    Here @Lysette , take a look. Sorry for the quality, I'm on my notebook for the weekend. This is not really something my Bosmer would wear, but I think it looks pretty. Just not on her, she is more of a "wild" type and the dress is very elegant in my opinion.

    Oh, and costumes appear on the character selection now if you are wondering. Your active pet and mount too!

    wZyxpzx.jpg

    Thank you for your effort, @Abeille - I am not on the PTS, that is why I asked. My bosmer is not the target person for this dress as well, she is wearing a nice darkstride set, which makes her highly agile, so she is sprinting a lot and that would look strange in that dress - but my redhead breton might like this, that green goes well with her hair and she is a sorceress.
  • Taisynn
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    I just wish the armor would look less distorted. I've been wearing the medium armor Xivyn set and her chest area just looks so odd at certain angles.

    I wish they could do more feminine, slim-line pieces though. Stealthers don't need these ridiculous saddlebags.
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  • ElderBugOffline
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    so guys, its fixed on PTS, at least partially?
  • LMar
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    I would like to add one more item to the list of distorted armourss:

    Robe of Syvarra's Scales. And I assume the style that it represents. Like previous armour mentioned here, it bloats the chest section into a barrel shape
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  • Sotha_Sil
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    Just wanted to add the outlaw jerkin/robe being the same at the moment (the legs look alike) whereas on the screenshots released by ZOS we can clearly see it looks different : as you can see on this picture which shows an archer with the light armor robe(it is not medium I double checked) :

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    We do not have this robe on live atm.
    Edited by Sotha_Sil on May 1, 2016 2:26PM
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  • Daraugh
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    Mercenary medium distorts the chest and the armor is distorted as well. I made medium chest and pants for my Breton and will post screenshots later to show the odd stretch and the balloon pants. Sad Breton Nightblade, her theme song in group dungeons has been Puffy Pants, Puffy Pants, What are they feeding you? Seriously, it looks like she's smuggling accordions down her pant legs.
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  • Cavanoskus
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    I'm very sorry, OP, but... America cannot have 'boobs'.
    Therefor, the female form will be revamped into a male body, with a female head.

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  • MornaBaine
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    Still wondering when we'll get an update....
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  • babylon
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    They said they were going to fix it, then release new costumes that make females look even more exactly like males -

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    ZOS you realise these are costumes we won't ever be buying right?

    Does this not hit you in the pocket...would have thought this would be enough to get your attention (loss of potential earnings).


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    Edited by babylon on May 1, 2016 9:29PM
  • MornaBaine
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    babylon wrote: »
    They said they were going to fix it, then release new costumes that make females look even more exactly like males -

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    ZOS you realise these are costumes we won't ever be buying right?

    Does this not hit you in the pocket...would have thought this would be enough to get your attention (loss of potential earnings).


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    Even if they didn't just make the females look like weirdly skinny males... those are pretty ugly.
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  • Daraugh
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    babylon wrote: »
    They said they were going to fix it, then release new costumes that make females look even more exactly like males -

    a6a9658d0719b197c6696c798cbd799b.jpg

    19ac197b1be0ba1f352f9a6d5ec37831.jpg


    ZOS you realise these are costumes we won't ever be buying right?

    Does this not hit you in the pocket...would have thought this would be enough to get your attention (loss of potential earnings).


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    Wow those are awful, male or female. Still I don't even want to think about the added distortion for females. What a wasted opportunity to make awesome Dragon costumes so grungy and dull. The second ones look like they should be carrying bloody chainsaws, but they're in the wrong era.
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  • Taisynn
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    This is just a disapointment. Again, female players get a 1 hit KO to their gender.
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