Scourge XB1 EU

Pazz_

The guild was founded by Soviet Baz. Really good guy. I played on EP while he was still in charge. Then when he left his generals to look after things while he started playing other games I was instantly kicked out (I had stayed in as at the time I had no ill feeling towards anyone and was happy to keep in contact with members).

No idea what has happened since then. Seems to be a few egos in there maybe?

Not tarring everyone with the same brush, I've spoken to a couple of guys in TKL since and got on fine. Others seem to take things way too seriously and hold a grudge because I made a character on another alliance *rolleyes*

Brrrofski

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

The guild was founded by Soviet Baz. Really good guy. I played on EP while he was still in charge. Then when he left his generals to look after things while he started playing other games I was instantly kicked out (I had stayed in as at the time I had no ill feeling towards anyone and was happy to keep in contact with members).

No idea what has happened since then. Seems to be a few egos in there maybe?

Not tarring everyone with the same brush, I've spoken to a couple of guys in TKL since and got on fine. Others seem to take things way too seriously and hold a grudge because I made a character on another alliance *rolleyes*

True, I do remember Soviet bars come to think of it. He was in another guild I was intact has since collapsed. He was a cool guy.

Bosov

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I got a feeling mclovin is American. Hence why he's probably on at night. Sure others have mentioned he is anyway. Never spoken to him, so not 100% positive.

He is American but just check his xbox clips, its not like he's doing it alone, he cant even do it by himself because if he is without his zerg he is a easy kill. Its his guild The Kings Legion who take everything, last night at 5 in the morning they run in a 24 men group + emperor and just take everything by doing some nice PvDoor.

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Loving the AP that DC & AD were freely giving us reds last night at Arrius

Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine

Occasionally the keep when a wild stone treb appeared briefly to get 1 or 2 shots at the wall kept those AP ticks mounting up all night

Think one of the Mine fights went out for almost an hour! Was a great time to test out my V1 DK

Yeah must have been nice AP because yellows and ues have been their the whole day. We lost Bloodmayne, Faragyl and Blackboot but threeway conflicts at Arius the whole day

It's rinse & repeat everyday now midweek.

Weekend prime time is the only time EP seem to get any kind of numbers & momentum going *sigh*

I wish there was a second 30 day campaign with decent population instead of just Scourge because blues basically ruined Scourge just like they did in Azura's. I took a resource at Faragyl last night, within 30 seconds mczerg and over 10 others were taking it back...

If only i could play on American servers but i dont really want to start from the beginning without CP or my crown store items.

Pazz_

Bosov wrote: »

If only i could play on American servers but i dont really want to start from the beginning without CP or my crown store items.

I was contemplating starting a toon or 2 on the US servers. Didn't think about the loss of CP & Crown Store items.....ugh

Bosov

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

If only i could play on American servers but i dont really want to start from the beginning without CP or my crown store items.

I was contemplating starting a toon or 2 on the US servers. Didn't think about the loss of CP & Crown Store items.....ugh

I actually made one but i didnt even have my All races all alliances pack since i bought that one from the crown store

RabNebula

Bosov wrote: »

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I got a feeling mclovin is American. Hence why he's probably on at night. Sure others have mentioned he is anyway. Never spoken to him, so not 100% positive.

He is American but just check his xbox clips, its not like he's doing it alone, he cant even do it by himself because if he is without his zerg he is a easy kill. Its his guild The Kings Legion who take everything, last night at 5 in the morning they run in a 24 men group + emperor and just take everything by doing some nice PvDoor.

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Loving the AP that DC & AD were freely giving us reds last night at Arrius

Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine

Occasionally the keep when a wild stone treb appeared briefly to get 1 or 2 shots at the wall kept those AP ticks mounting up all night

Think one of the Mine fights went out for almost an hour! Was a great time to test out my V1 DK

Yeah must have been nice AP because yellows and ues have been their the whole day. We lost Bloodmayne, Faragyl and Blackboot but threeway conflicts at Arius the whole day

It's rinse & repeat everyday now midweek.

Weekend prime time is the only time EP seem to get any kind of numbers & momentum going *sigh*

I wish there was a second 30 day campaign with decent population instead of just Scourge because blues basically ruined Scourge just like they did in Azura's. I took a resource at Faragyl last night, within 30 seconds mczerg and over 10 others were taking it back...

If only i could play on American servers but i dont really want to start from the beginning without CP or my crown store items.

Made a post on the last page about what can be done to stop Blues ruining the campaign. One option is AD and EP have some sort of ceise fire where we dont push harder over Alessia Bridge until both alliances have shut DC out completely. That way both sides can earn similar points while DC will end up in 3rd until Kings Legion breaks completely. EP have shown plenty of times if they are organised between even 2 or 3 groups that they can push DC right back.

The trouble is that AD just get super aroused over pushing EP at Arrius and Blue Road even when all the keeps behind them are taken. Like this evening in Scourge, AD are zerging it up at Blue Road and Alessia but Kings Legion just ploughed through all their home keeps. They then proceeded to have a free run with the final AD scroll with no challenge from AD. The only force trying to stop DC taking that scroll was 15 members of The Asaro (An EP guild) against 50+ DC. About 3 yellows turned up at 1 point but that was it.

I think AD are too scared to take on DC. EP will fight both fronts at once and never give up their home keeps without putting up a very tough battle. AD only fight EP side and you will often see Roebeck under DC control and not be challenged at all for hours at a time. Also it seems to take about 15 mins for DC to sweep through all the AD home keeps even during prime time which shouldnt happen unless there is no defence there at all. The only way AD will stand a chance to get off the bottom of the campaign is to pull focus on shutting DC down during the day to minimise the gain DC get overnight from zerging when nobody is on. Right now AD are just DC pawns. They need to get their guilds in order and fight with more strategy and thought on the DC front.

WassyLad

RabNebula wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I got a feeling mclovin is American. Hence why he's probably on at night. Sure others have mentioned he is anyway. Never spoken to him, so not 100% positive.

He is American but just check his xbox clips, its not like he's doing it alone, he cant even do it by himself because if he is without his zerg he is a easy kill. Its his guild The Kings Legion who take everything, last night at 5 in the morning they run in a 24 men group + emperor and just take everything by doing some nice PvDoor.

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Loving the AP that DC & AD were freely giving us reds last night at Arrius

Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine

Occasionally the keep when a wild stone treb appeared briefly to get 1 or 2 shots at the wall kept those AP ticks mounting up all night

Think one of the Mine fights went out for almost an hour! Was a great time to test out my V1 DK

Yeah must have been nice AP because yellows and ues have been their the whole day. We lost Bloodmayne, Faragyl and Blackboot but threeway conflicts at Arius the whole day

It's rinse & repeat everyday now midweek.

Weekend prime time is the only time EP seem to get any kind of numbers & momentum going *sigh*

I wish there was a second 30 day campaign with decent population instead of just Scourge because blues basically ruined Scourge just like they did in Azura's. I took a resource at Faragyl last night, within 30 seconds mczerg and over 10 others were taking it back...

If only i could play on American servers but i dont really want to start from the beginning without CP or my crown store items.

Made a post on the last page about what can be done to stop Blues ruining the campaign. One option is AD and EP have some sort of ceise fire where we dont push harder over Alessia Bridge until both alliances have shut DC out completely. That way both sides can earn similar points while DC will end up in 3rd until Kings Legion breaks completely. EP have shown plenty of times if they are organised between even 2 or 3 groups that they can push DC right back.

The trouble is that AD just get super aroused over pushing EP at Arrius and Blue Road even when all the keeps behind them are taken. Like this evening in Scourge, AD are zerging it up at Blue Road and Alessia but Kings Legion just ploughed through all their home keeps. They then proceeded to have a free run with the final AD scroll with no challenge from AD. The only force trying to stop DC taking that scroll was 15 members of The Asaro (An EP guild) against 50+ DC. About 3 yellows turned up at 1 point but that was it.

I think AD are too scared to take on DC. EP will fight both fronts at once and never give up their home keeps without putting up a very tough battle. AD only fight EP side and you will often see Roebeck under DC control and not be challenged at all for hours at a time. Also it seems to take about 15 mins for DC to sweep through all the AD home keeps even during prime time which shouldnt happen unless there is no defence there at all. The only way AD will stand a chance to get off the bottom of the campaign is to pull focus on shutting DC down during the day to minimise the gain DC get overnight from zerging when nobody is on. Right now AD are just DC pawns. They need to get their guilds in order and fight with more strategy and thought on the DC front.

Wouldn't say AD are scared of them it's just not enjoyable fighting blues. You only have to take a single resource by yourself at say Roebeck and you have a 24 man Zerg on the resource in minutes.

Where's the fun in just being zerged down by blues since their whole population follow each other around like sheep they either push red or push yellow they can't push both at the same time cause they all just mindlessly follow each other.

Even when you do attack them you have about 10 healers taking it in turns to ultimate heal whilst another 10 are radiant destructioning you at full health.

I don't know why yellows attack reds at arrius all day. Sometimes it's the only fighting going on so I go up there myself. I only run in small scale pvp groups so affecting the campaign isn't as easy.

RabNebula

WassyLad wrote: »

RabNebula wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I got a feeling mclovin is American. Hence why he's probably on at night. Sure others have mentioned he is anyway. Never spoken to him, so not 100% positive.

He is American but just check his xbox clips, its not like he's doing it alone, he cant even do it by himself because if he is without his zerg he is a easy kill. Its his guild The Kings Legion who take everything, last night at 5 in the morning they run in a 24 men group + emperor and just take everything by doing some nice PvDoor.

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Loving the AP that DC & AD were freely giving us reds last night at Arrius

Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine

Occasionally the keep when a wild stone treb appeared briefly to get 1 or 2 shots at the wall kept those AP ticks mounting up all night

Think one of the Mine fights went out for almost an hour! Was a great time to test out my V1 DK

Yeah must have been nice AP because yellows and ues have been their the whole day. We lost Bloodmayne, Faragyl and Blackboot but threeway conflicts at Arius the whole day

It's rinse & repeat everyday now midweek.

Weekend prime time is the only time EP seem to get any kind of numbers & momentum going *sigh*

I wish there was a second 30 day campaign with decent population instead of just Scourge because blues basically ruined Scourge just like they did in Azura's. I took a resource at Faragyl last night, within 30 seconds mczerg and over 10 others were taking it back...

If only i could play on American servers but i dont really want to start from the beginning without CP or my crown store items.

Made a post on the last page about what can be done to stop Blues ruining the campaign. One option is AD and EP have some sort of ceise fire where we dont push harder over Alessia Bridge until both alliances have shut DC out completely. That way both sides can earn similar points while DC will end up in 3rd until Kings Legion breaks completely. EP have shown plenty of times if they are organised between even 2 or 3 groups that they can push DC right back.

The trouble is that AD just get super aroused over pushing EP at Arrius and Blue Road even when all the keeps behind them are taken. Like this evening in Scourge, AD are zerging it up at Blue Road and Alessia but Kings Legion just ploughed through all their home keeps. They then proceeded to have a free run with the final AD scroll with no challenge from AD. The only force trying to stop DC taking that scroll was 15 members of The Asaro (An EP guild) against 50+ DC. About 3 yellows turned up at 1 point but that was it.

I think AD are too scared to take on DC. EP will fight both fronts at once and never give up their home keeps without putting up a very tough battle. AD only fight EP side and you will often see Roebeck under DC control and not be challenged at all for hours at a time. Also it seems to take about 15 mins for DC to sweep through all the AD home keeps even during prime time which shouldnt happen unless there is no defence there at all. The only way AD will stand a chance to get off the bottom of the campaign is to pull focus on shutting DC down during the day to minimise the gain DC get overnight from zerging when nobody is on. Right now AD are just DC pawns. They need to get their guilds in order and fight with more strategy and thought on the DC front.

Wouldn't say AD are scared of them it's just not enjoyable fighting blues. You only have to take a single resource by yourself at say Roebeck and you have a 24 man Zerg on the resource in minutes.

Where's the fun in just being zerged down by blues since their whole population follow each other around like sheep they either push red or push yellow they can't push both at the same time cause they all just mindlessly follow each other.

Even when you do attack them you have about 10 healers taking it in turns to ultimate heal whilst another 10 are radiant destructioning you at full health.

I don't know why yellows attack reds at arrius all day. Sometimes it's the only fighting going on so I go up there myself. I only run in small scale pvp groups so affecting the campaign isn't as easy.

Well the EP guilds deal with it while having to deal with AD zerging on Arrius at the same time all the time. Scourge is at crisis point now to the point where players are just giving up pvp all together. Theres not really anything new and decent to spend ap on and the green zergs on Ebonheart all day everyday are beyond a joke. Its clear zeni need to step in to sort out things like nightcapping because campaigns get to the point that theres no point anymore and surely they don't want their pvp to die as fast as it currently is.

With a small scale group you'd be surprised what you can do. As youre AD i cant go giving away too many tactics because people might start going "Oh you work with AD blah blah blah" but if you run the right way you can take a lot of blues out and drag a lot off the front line too.

It is just a shame that it seems the only groups facing up against DC for AD are small scale groups. If people want pvp to be anywhere near competitive and continue to actually be fun then someone in AD needs to start seeing bigger picture and develop a stronger front against DC. It cannot keep happening where AD just push Arrius over and over while DC just stroll in and sweep through their home keeps all in 1 go. Kings Legion zergs only work because people let them. AD are just DC's little puppets at the moment.

EP have shown a lot. If you put up a real front against KL then half of them get bored and quit out for the day because Kings Legion arent skill and usually arent well organised in the battle. They are just numbers. If AD started to do something different, something better that doesnt let Misk and Mclovin and their little zerging minions run around behind their lines so easily then they would stand a chance at actually winning a campaign rather than being like Kings Legions little pets.

The words may sound quite scathing but thats what everyone thinks of AD players now. Thats the reputation theyre building for themselves. Too scared to really face down DC. Too weak for a real fight. Have to put their full force into attacking Arrius and fail repeatedly while EP have half their force fighting there and half up at Aleswell or Bleakers.

AD just need to get organised and get to work on shutting down DC during the day so their nightcapping amounts to nothing but being pushed right to their gates during the day.

The message needs to be that if DC fight dirty then AD and EP will clean the dirt off the map right back to their gates and keep them there. Shut them out. Thats the common sense thing to do anyway.

Whats more likely to happen is AD will carry on with attacking EP while not protecting their home keeps or scrolls AT ALL. Most of EP will leave Scourge and AD will only be left with DC and a few random solo EPs to fight. Then AD will lose over and over against DC in Scourge and EP in Haderus as they arent organised enough to fight both fronts equally so they certainly wont be able to fight both campaigns equally.

I just think its a shame that the pvp is in the state it is in and the players arent doing enough to help keep the heart of the fun alive.

MightyBantam34

Errmm yellows moaning again you lot are as bad as the blues with your zergs if not worse as you do it on the haderus as well . As for reds ,not playing the map is your downfall so now people have grudges against your faction and push you. Plus your numbers have dwindled a lot . Blues play smart and the way the game was intended . As for certain individuals you keep naming I've seen many of there videos where they 1v1 .
Let them play the game how they want to . Ive said this time and time again blues only do what other factions have done in the past but did blues moan no . Same people always moaning

WassyLad

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

Errmm yellows moaning again you lot are as bad as the blues with your zergs if not worse as you do it on the haderus as well . As for reds ,not playing the map is your downfall so now people have grudges against your faction and push you. Plus your numbers have dwindled a lot . Blues play smart and the way the game was intended . As for certain individuals you keep naming I've seen many of there videos where they 1v1 .
Let them play the game how they want to . Ive said this time and time again blues only do what other factions have done in the past but did blues moan no . Same people always moaning

You're so deluded it's pointless even arguing with you.

Blues have a constant zerg online 24 hours a day. I don't know what the AD zergs are like because I don't play with them. The time AD is at its worst is at peak times and weekends.
Haderus (which is a separate thread by the way) does have a huge yellow Zerg which is why I don't play in there it's the same mentality of kings legion you just Zerg everyone down with gapclosers

Whereas blues in the middle of the day can be population locked whilst yellows and reds have like 1 bar. Same goes for early mornings. Blues always crown an emp at what 4-6am? When no one is online apart from McZerg playin PvDoor.

Blues don't play smart in the slightest it's a case of keep smashing themselves at a keep until they gather enough numbers to actually take it.
I've wiped the kings legion groups with 4-10 people countless times.

Occasionally they do use some "tactics" which is the same tactic they've used every day for months. They try to take ash, fail. Then go to brindle take that then they go to roebeck. Without fail every single day they do that tactic and everyone sees it from a mile off

Blues never moaning about zergs is that a joke? It's all they ever do is moan saying ad have more numbers than DC which is just false. And wasn't it the kings legion who left azuras for a while because of the ep Zerg back in the day ironically because they kept nightcapping. Exactly what they do now

WassyLad

WassyLad wrote: »

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

Errmm yellows moaning again you lot are as bad as the blues with your zergs if not worse as you do it on the haderus as well . As for reds ,not playing the map is your downfall so now people have grudges against your faction and push you. Plus your numbers have dwindled a lot . Blues play smart and the way the game was intended . As for certain individuals you keep naming I've seen many of there videos where they 1v1 .
Let them play the game how they want to . Ive said this time and time again blues only do what other factions have done in the past but did blues moan no . Same people always moaning

You're so deluded it's pointless even arguing with you.

Blues have a constant zerg online 24 hours a day. I don't know what the AD zergs are like because I don't play with them. The time AD is at its worst is at peak times and weekends.
Haderus (which is a separate thread by the way) does have a huge yellow Zerg which is why I don't play in there it's the same mentality of kings legion you just Zerg everyone down with gapclosers

Whereas blues in the middle of the day can be population locked whilst yellows and reds have like 1 bar. Same goes for early mornings. Blues always crown an emp at what 4-6am? When no one is online apart from McZerg playin PvDoor.

Blues don't play smart in the slightest it's a case of keep smashing themselves at a keep until they gather enough numbers to actually take it.
I've wiped the kings legion groups with 4-10 people countless times.

Occasionally they do use some "tactics" which is the same tactic they've used every day for months. They try to take ash, fail. Then go to brindle take that then they go to roebeck. Without fail every single day they do that tactic and everyone sees it from a mile off

Granted the blues in haderus do play smarter than the blues in scourge repairing breaches after the attackers were inside, getting up counter siege etc.

I'm not saying zergs shouldn't exist at all that's impossible and will never happen. I just don't understand how anyone can enjoy playing in a huge group just using gapclosers on one person. Half the time they'll press their gapcloser and the person will be dead before they even reach them.

I also understand why some people run in zergs because they're just genuinely terrible players who follow the mentality of strength in numbers that's also fine, they would never be able to play in small scale cause they'd just get battered.

For me and many other players zergs have ruined the game. Not only do they lag out the servers it's just not enjoyable. Hence why zenimax have been listening and nerfed heals for zergs and the xp and AP that they receive to try and reduce the numbers. Which didn't help at all cause to counterbalance it they now have twice as many dedicated healers.

Brrrofski

WassyLad wrote: »

WassyLad wrote: »

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

Errmm yellows moaning again you lot are as bad as the blues with your zergs if not worse as you do it on the haderus as well . As for reds ,not playing the map is your downfall so now people have grudges against your faction and push you. Plus your numbers have dwindled a lot . Blues play smart and the way the game was intended . As for certain individuals you keep naming I've seen many of there videos where they 1v1 .
Let them play the game how they want to . Ive said this time and time again blues only do what other factions have done in the past but did blues moan no . Same people always moaning

You're so deluded it's pointless even arguing with you.

Blues have a constant zerg online 24 hours a day. I don't know what the AD zergs are like because I don't play with them. The time AD is at its worst is at peak times and weekends.
Haderus (which is a separate thread by the way) does have a huge yellow Zerg which is why I don't play in there it's the same mentality of kings legion you just Zerg everyone down with gapclosers

Whereas blues in the middle of the day can be population locked whilst yellows and reds have like 1 bar. Same goes for early mornings. Blues always crown an emp at what 4-6am? When no one is online apart from McZerg playin PvDoor.

Blues don't play smart in the slightest it's a case of keep smashing themselves at a keep until they gather enough numbers to actually take it.
I've wiped the kings legion groups with 4-10 people countless times.

Occasionally they do use some "tactics" which is the same tactic they've used every day for months. They try to take ash, fail. Then go to brindle take that then they go to roebeck. Without fail every single day they do that tactic and everyone sees it from a mile off

Granted the blues in haderus do play smarter than the blues in scourge repairing breaches after the attackers were inside, getting up counter siege etc.

I'm not saying zergs shouldn't exist at all that's impossible and will never happen. I just don't understand how anyone can enjoy playing in a huge group just using gapclosers on one person. Half the time they'll press their gapcloser and the person will be dead before they even reach them.

I also understand why some people run in zergs because they're just genuinely terrible players who follow the mentality of strength in numbers that's also fine, they would never be able to play in small scale cause they'd just get battered.

For me and many other players zergs have ruined the game. Not only do they lag out the servers it's just not enjoyable. Hence why zenimax have been listening and nerfed heals for zergs and the xp and AP that they receive to try and reduce the numbers. Which didn't help at all cause to counterbalance it they now have twice as many dedicated healers.

We play a lot different in Haderus lol. Nothing like blues in azura's.

Do not tar us with that brush!

Although apparently some kings came in night before last and overnight PvDoor and got someone Emp as the dmapaign had just started.

WassyLad

Brrrofski wrote: »

WassyLad wrote: »

WassyLad wrote: »

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

Errmm yellows moaning again you lot are as bad as the blues with your zergs if not worse as you do it on the haderus as well . As for reds ,not playing the map is your downfall so now people have grudges against your faction and push you. Plus your numbers have dwindled a lot . Blues play smart and the way the game was intended . As for certain individuals you keep naming I've seen many of there videos where they 1v1 .
Let them play the game how they want to . Ive said this time and time again blues only do what other factions have done in the past but did blues moan no . Same people always moaning

You're so deluded it's pointless even arguing with you.

Blues have a constant zerg online 24 hours a day. I don't know what the AD zergs are like because I don't play with them. The time AD is at its worst is at peak times and weekends.
Haderus (which is a separate thread by the way) does have a huge yellow Zerg which is why I don't play in there it's the same mentality of kings legion you just Zerg everyone down with gapclosers

Whereas blues in the middle of the day can be population locked whilst yellows and reds have like 1 bar. Same goes for early mornings. Blues always crown an emp at what 4-6am? When no one is online apart from McZerg playin PvDoor.

Blues don't play smart in the slightest it's a case of keep smashing themselves at a keep until they gather enough numbers to actually take it.
I've wiped the kings legion groups with 4-10 people countless times.

Occasionally they do use some "tactics" which is the same tactic they've used every day for months. They try to take ash, fail. Then go to brindle take that then they go to roebeck. Without fail every single day they do that tactic and everyone sees it from a mile off

Granted the blues in haderus do play smarter than the blues in scourge repairing breaches after the attackers were inside, getting up counter siege etc.

I'm not saying zergs shouldn't exist at all that's impossible and will never happen. I just don't understand how anyone can enjoy playing in a huge group just using gapclosers on one person. Half the time they'll press their gapcloser and the person will be dead before they even reach them.

I also understand why some people run in zergs because they're just genuinely terrible players who follow the mentality of strength in numbers that's also fine, they would never be able to play in small scale cause they'd just get battered.

For me and many other players zergs have ruined the game. Not only do they lag out the servers it's just not enjoyable. Hence why zenimax have been listening and nerfed heals for zergs and the xp and AP that they receive to try and reduce the numbers. Which didn't help at all cause to counterbalance it they now have twice as many dedicated healers.

We play a lot different in Haderus lol. Nothing like blues in azura's.

Do not tar us with that brush!

Although apparently some kings came in night before last and overnight PvDoor and got someone Emp as the dmapaign had just started.

Only the first paragraph in the second post was referring to haderus DC complimenting them on tactics the rest of the message was still about DC in scourge haha

Yeah McZerg came in at around 4-5am apparently and got big bad noob emp which is odd because McZerg hates turncoats and big bad noob was ep

Brrrofski

WassyLad wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

WassyLad wrote: »

WassyLad wrote: »

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

Errmm yellows moaning again you lot are as bad as the blues with your zergs if not worse as you do it on the haderus as well . As for reds ,not playing the map is your downfall so now people have grudges against your faction and push you. Plus your numbers have dwindled a lot . Blues play smart and the way the game was intended . As for certain individuals you keep naming I've seen many of there videos where they 1v1 .
Let them play the game how they want to . Ive said this time and time again blues only do what other factions have done in the past but did blues moan no . Same people always moaning

You're so deluded it's pointless even arguing with you.

Blues have a constant zerg online 24 hours a day. I don't know what the AD zergs are like because I don't play with them. The time AD is at its worst is at peak times and weekends.
Haderus (which is a separate thread by the way) does have a huge yellow Zerg which is why I don't play in there it's the same mentality of kings legion you just Zerg everyone down with gapclosers

Whereas blues in the middle of the day can be population locked whilst yellows and reds have like 1 bar. Same goes for early mornings. Blues always crown an emp at what 4-6am? When no one is online apart from McZerg playin PvDoor.

Blues don't play smart in the slightest it's a case of keep smashing themselves at a keep until they gather enough numbers to actually take it.
I've wiped the kings legion groups with 4-10 people countless times.

Occasionally they do use some "tactics" which is the same tactic they've used every day for months. They try to take ash, fail. Then go to brindle take that then they go to roebeck. Without fail every single day they do that tactic and everyone sees it from a mile off

Granted the blues in haderus do play smarter than the blues in scourge repairing breaches after the attackers were inside, getting up counter siege etc.

I'm not saying zergs shouldn't exist at all that's impossible and will never happen. I just don't understand how anyone can enjoy playing in a huge group just using gapclosers on one person. Half the time they'll press their gapcloser and the person will be dead before they even reach them.

I also understand why some people run in zergs because they're just genuinely terrible players who follow the mentality of strength in numbers that's also fine, they would never be able to play in small scale cause they'd just get battered.

For me and many other players zergs have ruined the game. Not only do they lag out the servers it's just not enjoyable. Hence why zenimax have been listening and nerfed heals for zergs and the xp and AP that they receive to try and reduce the numbers. Which didn't help at all cause to counterbalance it they now have twice as many dedicated healers.

We play a lot different in Haderus lol. Nothing like blues in azura's.

Do not tar us with that brush!

Although apparently some kings came in night before last and overnight PvDoor and got someone Emp as the dmapaign had just started.

Only the first paragraph in the second post was referring to haderus DC complimenting them on tactics the rest of the message was still about DC in scourge haha

Yeah McZerg came in at around 4-5am apparently and got big bad noob emp which is odd because McZerg hates turncoats and big bad noob was ep

Yeh, he's been Emp in there before on a red. I did think it was weird when I noticed.

MightyBantam34

Deluded? How
Also these nerfs and sets to counter zergs (breakup zergs) to make it less laggy is a joke . This is no good for pvp at all

Pazz_

RabNebula wrote: »

The only force trying to stop DC taking that scroll was 15 members of The Asaro (An EP guild) against 50+ DC. About 3 yellows turned up at 1 point but that was it.

That awkward moment at the river crossing..... " That's a lot of people, did yellows come back to defen.......oh ***"

WassyLad wrote: »

Occasionally they do use some "tactics" which is the same tactic they've used every day for months. They try to take ash, fail. Then go to brindle take that then they go to roebeck. Without fail every single day they do that tactic and everyone sees it from a mile off

Months?? Baz came up with that maneuver to try and counter @Dalglish and his AD group by splitting them up when his bat bomb build was wrecking everyone at console release. Have DC seriously not come up with anything new since then other than the tactical shout of "EVERYONE ON ME!"

Chapmaaaan

why don't the reds moaning about the blue zerg stop moaning about Scourge and come and make Haderus interesting? reds need more numbers there. so do blues. yellows can stay where they are though. we have enough of them. in fact, you can come and take some from Haderus to help you in Scourge

RabNebula

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

RabNebula wrote: »

The only force trying to stop DC taking that scroll was 15 members of The Asaro (An EP guild) against 50+ DC. About 3 yellows turned up at 1 point but that was it.

That awkward moment at the river crossing..... " That's a lot of people, did yellows come back to defen.......oh ***"

Ha yeh that was ridiculous. What 70 DC? No wonder those home keeps fell so fast. The entire AD defence consisted of 3 players while all the rest were at Arrius.

I was talking to COINDO about it later. He mentioned there was a forward camp up and he was going to head down. I had to laugh because it was mine. He obviously caught I was there for a fight and to try to hinder DC a little. Shame there were just so many DC there.

Shouldve seen how many I hit with that ballista when I fired it straight in the middle of the pack from that ridge. Most numbers I've seen come up. Yet they didnt get dismounted. Weird. Next time I'll get 10 ballistas set up pointing at them

WassyLad

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

RabNebula wrote: »

The only force trying to stop DC taking that scroll was 15 members of The Asaro (An EP guild) against 50+ DC. About 3 yellows turned up at 1 point but that was it.

That awkward moment at the river crossing..... " That's a lot of people, did yellows come back to defen.......oh ***"

WassyLad wrote: »

Occasionally they do use some "tactics" which is the same tactic they've used every day for months. They try to take ash, fail. Then go to brindle take that then they go to roebeck. Without fail every single day they do that tactic and everyone sees it from a mile off

Months?? Baz came up with that maneuver to try and counter @Dalglish and his AD group by splitting them up when his bat bomb build was wrecking everyone at console release. Have DC seriously not come up with anything new since then other than the tactical shout of "EVERYONE ON ME!"

Hahaha more of a "stick on crown or get kicked"

Bosov

The stick on crown mentality is so bad... i played on my nightblade and saw someone riding on their horse and shot an arrow at him/her and then i ambushed towards the blue. The blue didnt even dismount but just kept riding towards the zerg because blue zerger didnt seem to know that you could actually fight without a zerg. I was forced into ambush spam to keep up and it resulted in a dead blue and a dead horse. RIP Horse

Ofcourse the dead blue was wearing the Kings Legion tabard but even without that tabard i would have know it was a kings legion zergling.

Bosov

Brrrofski wrote: »

WassyLad wrote: »

WassyLad wrote: »

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

Errmm yellows moaning again you lot are as bad as the blues with your zergs if not worse as you do it on the haderus as well . As for reds ,not playing the map is your downfall so now people have grudges against your faction and push you. Plus your numbers have dwindled a lot . Blues play smart and the way the game was intended . As for certain individuals you keep naming I've seen many of there videos where they 1v1 .
Let them play the game how they want to . Ive said this time and time again blues only do what other factions have done in the past but did blues moan no . Same people always moaning

You're so deluded it's pointless even arguing with you.

Blues have a constant zerg online 24 hours a day. I don't know what the AD zergs are like because I don't play with them. The time AD is at its worst is at peak times and weekends.
Haderus (which is a separate thread by the way) does have a huge yellow Zerg which is why I don't play in there it's the same mentality of kings legion you just Zerg everyone down with gapclosers

Whereas blues in the middle of the day can be population locked whilst yellows and reds have like 1 bar. Same goes for early mornings. Blues always crown an emp at what 4-6am? When no one is online apart from McZerg playin PvDoor.

Blues don't play smart in the slightest it's a case of keep smashing themselves at a keep until they gather enough numbers to actually take it.
I've wiped the kings legion groups with 4-10 people countless times.

Occasionally they do use some "tactics" which is the same tactic they've used every day for months. They try to take ash, fail. Then go to brindle take that then they go to roebeck. Without fail every single day they do that tactic and everyone sees it from a mile off

Granted the blues in haderus do play smarter than the blues in scourge repairing breaches after the attackers were inside, getting up counter siege etc.

I'm not saying zergs shouldn't exist at all that's impossible and will never happen. I just don't understand how anyone can enjoy playing in a huge group just using gapclosers on one person. Half the time they'll press their gapcloser and the person will be dead before they even reach them.

I also understand why some people run in zergs because they're just genuinely terrible players who follow the mentality of strength in numbers that's also fine, they would never be able to play in small scale cause they'd just get battered.

For me and many other players zergs have ruined the game. Not only do they lag out the servers it's just not enjoyable. Hence why zenimax have been listening and nerfed heals for zergs and the xp and AP that they receive to try and reduce the numbers. Which didn't help at all cause to counterbalance it they now have twice as many dedicated healers.

We play a lot different in Haderus lol. Nothing like blues in azura's.

Do not tar us with that brush!

Although apparently some kings came in night before last and overnight PvDoor and got someone Emp as the dmapaign had just started.

They didnt have anything left to PvDoor in Scourge because they actually ran a 24 men group with emperor at 4 or 5 in the morning and just steamrolled everything within 10 minutes.

Pazz_

Bosov wrote: »

The stick on crown mentality is so bad... i played on my nightblade and saw someone riding on their horse and shot an arrow at him/her and then i ambushed towards the blue. The blue didnt even dismount but just kept riding towards the zerg because blue zerger didnt seem to know that you could actually fight without a zerg. I was forced into ambush spam to keep up and it resulted in a dead blue and a dead horse. RIP Horse

Ofcourse the dead blue was wearing the Kings Legion tabard but even without that tabard i would have know it was a kings legion zergling.

I can imagine the panic stricken screams in the guild chat


If your in TKL and are reading this, there is a reason your all getting rinsed on here by everyone else

DjSolJAH

The sad fact is that the current meta for scourge is that you HAVE to be running a full group and everyone has to stack on crown to stand a chance when taking keeps or you just get zerged down. Unless your sweeping an outer keep, where most of the time only a few will come to defend. Seems like the days of taking a emp keep with a group of 5 or 10 is pretty much over.

This doesn't mean you can't small scale on the edges of main routes but unfortunately there's not much that can be done score-wise with a small group to affect campaign scoring or taking keeps

Bosov

I dont care about campaign scores or taking keeps.. taking keeps is boring anyway but i want to have some fun fights but thats just not possible with 12 people gapclosing on you and 12 people staying behind doing healing, radiant destruction and shooting meteors. Yesterday while i was fighting (and loosing against) multiple blues i actually had 3 meteors drop on me and when i was already dead number 4 dropped on my corpse.... what are you supposed to do against that?

DjSolJAH

Bosov wrote: »

I dont care about campaign scores or taking keeps.. taking keeps is boring anyway but i want to have some fun fights but thats just not possible with 12 people gapclosing on you and 12 people staying behind doing healing, radiant destruction and shooting meteors. Yesterday while i was fighting (and loosing against) multiple blues i actually had 3 meteors drop on me and when i was already dead number 4 dropped on my corpse.... what are you supposed to do against that?

Block

Keso314

WassyLad wrote: »

RabNebula wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I got a feeling mclovin is American. Hence why he's probably on at night. Sure others have mentioned he is anyway. Never spoken to him, so not 100% positive.

He is American but just check his xbox clips, its not like he's doing it alone, he cant even do it by himself because if he is without his zerg he is a easy kill. Its his guild The Kings Legion who take everything, last night at 5 in the morning they run in a 24 men group + emperor and just take everything by doing some nice PvDoor.

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Loving the AP that DC & AD were freely giving us reds last night at Arrius

Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine

Occasionally the keep when a wild stone treb appeared briefly to get 1 or 2 shots at the wall kept those AP ticks mounting up all night

Think one of the Mine fights went out for almost an hour! Was a great time to test out my V1 DK

Yeah must have been nice AP because yellows and ues have been their the whole day. We lost Bloodmayne, Faragyl and Blackboot but threeway conflicts at Arius the whole day

It's rinse & repeat everyday now midweek.

Weekend prime time is the only time EP seem to get any kind of numbers & momentum going *sigh*

I wish there was a second 30 day campaign with decent population instead of just Scourge because blues basically ruined Scourge just like they did in Azura's. I took a resource at Faragyl last night, within 30 seconds mczerg and over 10 others were taking it back...

If only i could play on American servers but i dont really want to start from the beginning without CP or my crown store items.

Made a post on the last page about what can be done to stop Blues ruining the campaign. One option is AD and EP have some sort of ceise fire where we dont push harder over Alessia Bridge until both alliances have shut DC out completely. That way both sides can earn similar points while DC will end up in 3rd until Kings Legion breaks completely. EP have shown plenty of times if they are organised between even 2 or 3 groups that they can push DC right back.

The trouble is that AD just get super aroused over pushing EP at Arrius and Blue Road even when all the keeps behind them are taken. Like this evening in Scourge, AD are zerging it up at Blue Road and Alessia but Kings Legion just ploughed through all their home keeps. They then proceeded to have a free run with the final AD scroll with no challenge from AD. The only force trying to stop DC taking that scroll was 15 members of The Asaro (An EP guild) against 50+ DC. About 3 yellows turned up at 1 point but that was it.

I think AD are too scared to take on DC. EP will fight both fronts at once and never give up their home keeps without putting up a very tough battle. AD only fight EP side and you will often see Roebeck under DC control and not be challenged at all for hours at a time. Also it seems to take about 15 mins for DC to sweep through all the AD home keeps even during prime time which shouldnt happen unless there is no defence there at all. The only way AD will stand a chance to get off the bottom of the campaign is to pull focus on shutting DC down during the day to minimise the gain DC get overnight from zerging when nobody is on. Right now AD are just DC pawns. They need to get their guilds in order and fight with more strategy and thought on the DC front.

Wouldn't say AD are scared of them it's just not enjoyable fighting blues. You only have to take a single resource by yourself at say Roebeck and you have a 24 man Zerg on the resource in minutes.

Where's the fun in just being zerged down by blues since their whole population follow each other around like sheep they either push red or push yellow they can't push both at the same time cause they all just mindlessly follow each other.

Even when you do attack them you have about 10 healers taking it in turns to ultimate heal whilst another 10 are radiant destructioning you at full health.

I don't know why yellows attack reds at arrius all day. Sometimes it's the only fighting going on so I go up there myself. I only run in small scale pvp groups so affecting the campaign isn't as easy.

Couldn't we use the fact that they are always zerging against them? Have multiple small, but coordinating, groups behind their lines taking resources and tagging keeps. That way, they're forced to either split up or cede territory -- And it forces them to react instead of being able to control where the action will be.

Pazz_

Keso314 wrote: »

WassyLad wrote: »

RabNebula wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I got a feeling mclovin is American. Hence why he's probably on at night. Sure others have mentioned he is anyway. Never spoken to him, so not 100% positive.

He is American but just check his xbox clips, its not like he's doing it alone, he cant even do it by himself because if he is without his zerg he is a easy kill. Its his guild The Kings Legion who take everything, last night at 5 in the morning they run in a 24 men group + emperor and just take everything by doing some nice PvDoor.

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Loving the AP that DC & AD were freely giving us reds last night at Arrius

Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine

Occasionally the keep when a wild stone treb appeared briefly to get 1 or 2 shots at the wall kept those AP ticks mounting up all night

Think one of the Mine fights went out for almost an hour! Was a great time to test out my V1 DK

Yeah must have been nice AP because yellows and ues have been their the whole day. We lost Bloodmayne, Faragyl and Blackboot but threeway conflicts at Arius the whole day

It's rinse & repeat everyday now midweek.

Weekend prime time is the only time EP seem to get any kind of numbers & momentum going *sigh*

I wish there was a second 30 day campaign with decent population instead of just Scourge because blues basically ruined Scourge just like they did in Azura's. I took a resource at Faragyl last night, within 30 seconds mczerg and over 10 others were taking it back...

If only i could play on American servers but i dont really want to start from the beginning without CP or my crown store items.

Made a post on the last page about what can be done to stop Blues ruining the campaign. One option is AD and EP have some sort of ceise fire where we dont push harder over Alessia Bridge until both alliances have shut DC out completely. That way both sides can earn similar points while DC will end up in 3rd until Kings Legion breaks completely. EP have shown plenty of times if they are organised between even 2 or 3 groups that they can push DC right back.

The trouble is that AD just get super aroused over pushing EP at Arrius and Blue Road even when all the keeps behind them are taken. Like this evening in Scourge, AD are zerging it up at Blue Road and Alessia but Kings Legion just ploughed through all their home keeps. They then proceeded to have a free run with the final AD scroll with no challenge from AD. The only force trying to stop DC taking that scroll was 15 members of The Asaro (An EP guild) against 50+ DC. About 3 yellows turned up at 1 point but that was it.

I think AD are too scared to take on DC. EP will fight both fronts at once and never give up their home keeps without putting up a very tough battle. AD only fight EP side and you will often see Roebeck under DC control and not be challenged at all for hours at a time. Also it seems to take about 15 mins for DC to sweep through all the AD home keeps even during prime time which shouldnt happen unless there is no defence there at all. The only way AD will stand a chance to get off the bottom of the campaign is to pull focus on shutting DC down during the day to minimise the gain DC get overnight from zerging when nobody is on. Right now AD are just DC pawns. They need to get their guilds in order and fight with more strategy and thought on the DC front.

Wouldn't say AD are scared of them it's just not enjoyable fighting blues. You only have to take a single resource by yourself at say Roebeck and you have a 24 man Zerg on the resource in minutes.

Where's the fun in just being zerged down by blues since their whole population follow each other around like sheep they either push red or push yellow they can't push both at the same time cause they all just mindlessly follow each other.

Even when you do attack them you have about 10 healers taking it in turns to ultimate heal whilst another 10 are radiant destructioning you at full health.

I don't know why yellows attack reds at arrius all day. Sometimes it's the only fighting going on so I go up there myself. I only run in small scale pvp groups so affecting the campaign isn't as easy.

Couldn't we use the fact that they are always zerging against them? Have multiple small, but coordinating, groups behind their lines taking resources and tagging keeps. That way, they're forced to either split up or cede territory -- And it forces them to react instead of being able to control where the action will be.

You referenced "EP" and "coordinating" in the same sentence?

Brrrofski

I honestly thought forward camps would help break up zergs. If a faction had a group siege right behind the lines with a camp it might break up zergs to have to fight on both fronts.

Unfortunately that hasn't happened so far.

Keso314

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Keso314 wrote: »

WassyLad wrote: »

RabNebula wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I got a feeling mclovin is American. Hence why he's probably on at night. Sure others have mentioned he is anyway. Never spoken to him, so not 100% positive.

He is American but just check his xbox clips, its not like he's doing it alone, he cant even do it by himself because if he is without his zerg he is a easy kill. Its his guild The Kings Legion who take everything, last night at 5 in the morning they run in a 24 men group + emperor and just take everything by doing some nice PvDoor.

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Loving the AP that DC & AD were freely giving us reds last night at Arrius

Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine

Occasionally the keep when a wild stone treb appeared briefly to get 1 or 2 shots at the wall kept those AP ticks mounting up all night

Think one of the Mine fights went out for almost an hour! Was a great time to test out my V1 DK

Yeah must have been nice AP because yellows and ues have been their the whole day. We lost Bloodmayne, Faragyl and Blackboot but threeway conflicts at Arius the whole day

It's rinse & repeat everyday now midweek.

Weekend prime time is the only time EP seem to get any kind of numbers & momentum going *sigh*

I wish there was a second 30 day campaign with decent population instead of just Scourge because blues basically ruined Scourge just like they did in Azura's. I took a resource at Faragyl last night, within 30 seconds mczerg and over 10 others were taking it back...

If only i could play on American servers but i dont really want to start from the beginning without CP or my crown store items.

Made a post on the last page about what can be done to stop Blues ruining the campaign. One option is AD and EP have some sort of ceise fire where we dont push harder over Alessia Bridge until both alliances have shut DC out completely. That way both sides can earn similar points while DC will end up in 3rd until Kings Legion breaks completely. EP have shown plenty of times if they are organised between even 2 or 3 groups that they can push DC right back.

The trouble is that AD just get super aroused over pushing EP at Arrius and Blue Road even when all the keeps behind them are taken. Like this evening in Scourge, AD are zerging it up at Blue Road and Alessia but Kings Legion just ploughed through all their home keeps. They then proceeded to have a free run with the final AD scroll with no challenge from AD. The only force trying to stop DC taking that scroll was 15 members of The Asaro (An EP guild) against 50+ DC. About 3 yellows turned up at 1 point but that was it.

I think AD are too scared to take on DC. EP will fight both fronts at once and never give up their home keeps without putting up a very tough battle. AD only fight EP side and you will often see Roebeck under DC control and not be challenged at all for hours at a time. Also it seems to take about 15 mins for DC to sweep through all the AD home keeps even during prime time which shouldnt happen unless there is no defence there at all. The only way AD will stand a chance to get off the bottom of the campaign is to pull focus on shutting DC down during the day to minimise the gain DC get overnight from zerging when nobody is on. Right now AD are just DC pawns. They need to get their guilds in order and fight with more strategy and thought on the DC front.

Wouldn't say AD are scared of them it's just not enjoyable fighting blues. You only have to take a single resource by yourself at say Roebeck and you have a 24 man Zerg on the resource in minutes.

Where's the fun in just being zerged down by blues since their whole population follow each other around like sheep they either push red or push yellow they can't push both at the same time cause they all just mindlessly follow each other.

Even when you do attack them you have about 10 healers taking it in turns to ultimate heal whilst another 10 are radiant destructioning you at full health.

I don't know why yellows attack reds at arrius all day. Sometimes it's the only fighting going on so I go up there myself. I only run in small scale pvp groups so affecting the campaign isn't as easy.

Couldn't we use the fact that they are always zerging against them? Have multiple small, but coordinating, groups behind their lines taking resources and tagging keeps. That way, they're forced to either split up or cede territory -- And it forces them to react instead of being able to control where the action will be.

You referenced "EP" and "coordinating" in the same sentence?

That has to be fixed, obviously. And then we could fix the middle east, world hunger, and cure cancer...

Pazz_

Keso314 wrote: »

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Keso314 wrote: »

WassyLad wrote: »

RabNebula wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I got a feeling mclovin is American. Hence why he's probably on at night. Sure others have mentioned he is anyway. Never spoken to him, so not 100% positive.

He is American but just check his xbox clips, its not like he's doing it alone, he cant even do it by himself because if he is without his zerg he is a easy kill. Its his guild The Kings Legion who take everything, last night at 5 in the morning they run in a 24 men group + emperor and just take everything by doing some nice PvDoor.

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Loving the AP that DC & AD were freely giving us reds last night at Arrius

Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine - Lumber - Mine

Occasionally the keep when a wild stone treb appeared briefly to get 1 or 2 shots at the wall kept those AP ticks mounting up all night

Think one of the Mine fights went out for almost an hour! Was a great time to test out my V1 DK

Yeah must have been nice AP because yellows and ues have been their the whole day. We lost Bloodmayne, Faragyl and Blackboot but threeway conflicts at Arius the whole day

It's rinse & repeat everyday now midweek.

Weekend prime time is the only time EP seem to get any kind of numbers & momentum going *sigh*

I wish there was a second 30 day campaign with decent population instead of just Scourge because blues basically ruined Scourge just like they did in Azura's. I took a resource at Faragyl last night, within 30 seconds mczerg and over 10 others were taking it back...

If only i could play on American servers but i dont really want to start from the beginning without CP or my crown store items.

Made a post on the last page about what can be done to stop Blues ruining the campaign. One option is AD and EP have some sort of ceise fire where we dont push harder over Alessia Bridge until both alliances have shut DC out completely. That way both sides can earn similar points while DC will end up in 3rd until Kings Legion breaks completely. EP have shown plenty of times if they are organised between even 2 or 3 groups that they can push DC right back.

The trouble is that AD just get super aroused over pushing EP at Arrius and Blue Road even when all the keeps behind them are taken. Like this evening in Scourge, AD are zerging it up at Blue Road and Alessia but Kings Legion just ploughed through all their home keeps. They then proceeded to have a free run with the final AD scroll with no challenge from AD. The only force trying to stop DC taking that scroll was 15 members of The Asaro (An EP guild) against 50+ DC. About 3 yellows turned up at 1 point but that was it.

I think AD are too scared to take on DC. EP will fight both fronts at once and never give up their home keeps without putting up a very tough battle. AD only fight EP side and you will often see Roebeck under DC control and not be challenged at all for hours at a time. Also it seems to take about 15 mins for DC to sweep through all the AD home keeps even during prime time which shouldnt happen unless there is no defence there at all. The only way AD will stand a chance to get off the bottom of the campaign is to pull focus on shutting DC down during the day to minimise the gain DC get overnight from zerging when nobody is on. Right now AD are just DC pawns. They need to get their guilds in order and fight with more strategy and thought on the DC front.

Wouldn't say AD are scared of them it's just not enjoyable fighting blues. You only have to take a single resource by yourself at say Roebeck and you have a 24 man Zerg on the resource in minutes.

Where's the fun in just being zerged down by blues since their whole population follow each other around like sheep they either push red or push yellow they can't push both at the same time cause they all just mindlessly follow each other.

Even when you do attack them you have about 10 healers taking it in turns to ultimate heal whilst another 10 are radiant destructioning you at full health.

I don't know why yellows attack reds at arrius all day. Sometimes it's the only fighting going on so I go up there myself. I only run in small scale pvp groups so affecting the campaign isn't as easy.

Couldn't we use the fact that they are always zerging against them? Have multiple small, but coordinating, groups behind their lines taking resources and tagging keeps. That way, they're forced to either split up or cede territory -- And it forces them to react instead of being able to control where the action will be.

You referenced "EP" and "coordinating" in the same sentence?

That has to be fixed, obviously. And then we could fix the middle east, world hunger, and cure cancer...

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm with thus guy!

LEAD ON BROTHA!