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Pazz_

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DjSolJAH

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

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Lol I know all my funny pics are zerged down by the mods. Time to get serious I guess...

RabNebula

DjSolJAH wrote: »

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

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Lol I know all my funny pics are zerged down by the mods. Time to get serious I guess...

Ha well at least most of Badgers posts aren't zerging out the thread now.

You'd think they could tell the difference between Scourge banter and full on flame wars though. I mean take the bore hat off and let a little banter live between Scourge players!

Pazz_

DjSolJAH wrote: »

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

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Lol I know all my funny pics are zerged down by the mods. Time to get serious I guess...

Where's the fun in that?

WassyLad

Worst lag I've seen in a long long time tonight. Think tonight's the worst lag I've ever had. Skills greyed out sometimes, bar swaps extremely delayed about 5 seconds between pressing my gapcloser and actually gap closing...

Bosov

Yeah the lag was really bad tonight. On a positive note though... the lag in Maelstrom didnt feel so bad after i already played pvp.

Buffler

Lag was horrendous tonight but some good battles going on between all 3 alliances.....ive just logged off now as TKL nightcappers have started.

RabNebula

Buffler wrote: »

Lag was horrendous tonight but some good battles going on between all 3 alliances.....ive just logged off now as TKL nightcappers have started.

Not to mention that TKL decided while AD were on their last emp keep to start backdooring EP with a full blown 60+ mess and DDOS their way through keeps. DC by name use d/c's to get anywhere. AD ended up just zerging out on EP then and still took up to Ash without much challenge from DC. Way to go TKL and your strategically inept zergs once again bringing a bitter taste to the end of pvp for the night.

Up until then though there were some great moments including 2 AD, v1 and v2, coming along and helping me kill some blues in tkl tabbards (half of the blues being Templars again), them bagging the blues then waving at me. Then somehow even when I was defending Chalman keep a load of AD were in there and still didnt sweep me away the in TKL zerg mess. There may be a couple of large green groups that float around but at least not every single AD is a green! They actually purposefully left me to it to slay my way through a tonne of DC until I eventually d/c'd. Kind of a nuts moment. I think I might be Jesus.

Brrrofski

WassyLad wrote: »

Worst lag I've seen in a long long time tonight. Think tonight's the worst lag I've ever had. Skills greyed out sometimes, bar swaps extremely delayed about 5 seconds between pressing my gapcloser and actually gap closing...

I hopped in for a bit, Went to ash, lagged out twice during one siege, went to sewers. Stupidly bad lag

WassyLad

Brrrofski wrote: »

WassyLad wrote: »

Worst lag I've seen in a long long time tonight. Think tonight's the worst lag I've ever had. Skills greyed out sometimes, bar swaps extremely delayed about 5 seconds between pressing my gapcloser and actually gap closing...

I hopped in for a bit, Went to ash, lagged out twice during one siege, went to sewers. Stupidly bad lag

It hasn't lagged too badly in a while but last night I think was the worst lag I've ever had. It wasn't even near to keep fights it was the whole map

DjSolJAH

I think we shot ourselves in the foot taking haderus.. That yellow zerg was insane late night. Only lasted about an hour or 2 but man... Haderus PvErs def jumped online around monster set time.

RabNebula

DjSolJAH wrote: »

I think we shot ourselves in the foot taking haderus.. That yellow zerg was insane late night. Only lasted about an hour or 2 but man... Haderus PvErs def jumped online around monster set time.

That was pretty ridiculous. Just getting zerged on from both sides. EP shouldnt have taken Aleswell after DC came and defended Alessia for AD then vanished. Chalman yeh because DC wouldnt have felt a threat from that but after that it should have been all hands on knocking off emp again.

As it is, EP dont have a zerg guild like the other 2 alliances and until EP players stop shooting each other in the foot and breaking into smaller and smaller guilds and trying to poach each others players in the process rather than merging and coming together then I dont see them coming close to competing. The things I hear at times from EP players is just over the top childish and disloyal. Its a shame people just cant down their pitchforks and get on with business without treading on toes of other groups. The other alliances seem pretty capable of it. EP on the other hand always seem to have one thing or another getting in the way and pushing people to just sewer dwell instead of pull together in pvp. Pretty frustrating.

GrigorijMalahevich

Yesterday late in to the evening, I as a random joined "bromtown" and his group for some small scale PVP. We blocked the reinforcements/respawns from Alessia castle on the bridge. Because "this is where we fight, this is where they die". Just 5-6 of us stood there for around 40 minutes, massively outnumbered we gave AD a nice taste of EP steel.

Started with 5x5 with AD emperor trying to overpower us, we pushed them in to the oblivion (I killed AD emp two times). They got frustrated and only after another group of AD came from the other side of the bridge (behind us ) managed to defeat/scatter us.

It is really great how deep is your knowledge about overall strategy and understanding of the whole war scenario, still, your comments are very ignorant and not very constructive. EP is a great alliance with some good players and guilds. We lose to AD in terms of personal skill, we lose to DC in terms of organisation, but we win overall, because "sometimes you win, sometimes you learn" and we learn. I can elaborate and say that we already started to adapt and some guilds started to use something like guerrilla warfare.

The theory behind winning fights where you (on standard rules) are the weaker player is non-standard tactics. We need to turn the game upside down and bring the fight to their home against zerg.
History of humanity has just millions of these examples like David vs Goliath (ranged attacker against heavy infantry which in those times was something like a perfect counter, light armoured range attacker vs heavy armored melee fighter, David could just run away for 2 hours and wait until Goliath would get totally exhausted and then just finish him) etc. - we will just adapt and overcome.

I for example just love 1vsX fights under any bridge, as it gives me as a Sorcerer the ability to streak on the other side and take advantage of the landscape.

There are tons of other situations, so let's stay positive and stop dissing our own alliance.

Brrrofski

Don't think David and goliath counts as history

Haderus has some good pvp going now. Definitely reccomend it if you're bored of zergs. Just don't bring zergs

RabNebula

Brrrofski wrote: »

Don't think David and goliath counts as history

Haderus has some good pvp going now. Definitely reccomend it if you're bored of zergs. Just don't bring zergs

Ha its not an accurate portrayal of history but Malcolm Gladwell did some interesting research on the facts behind it. Worth checking out.

@Valera Progib

I wasn't being ignorant to suggest theres been far too much drama in the past between certain guilds over things like player poaching, spy witch hunts and a million things in between. There has been too much of it in EP. Anytime they get close to united it seems a whole load of he said, she said school gossip arguments come around and break down the effort. What I was saying is that it's time to be more careful about stepping on the toes of other guilds and just get on with the fight.

As for guilds adopting guerilla warfare. A big reason why thats happened is because EP has too many smaller guilds and thats the only kind of tactics that such a fractionalised alliance can find success with. It is just too divided into all these smaller guilds. At some point if a guild hasnt really taken off then it may be better for all if they merge into a larger guild that has a more diverse player base thats well managed. They can still run their groups with in that but it really makes a difference for coordinating in pvp when the players are united together like that. You say I was being unconstructive. I say far from it.

WassyLad

If the reds and yellows could stop attacking each other outside the last emp keep instead of sieging it and if the reds could stop pushing blue road whilst we're trying to take the last emp keep that would be great

pod88kk

Why should reds stop taking blue road? It's THEIR keep, maybe you should try take roebuck from us every now and again instead of just going going to sejanus, come on yellows give us blues a proper fight, we're begging for it!!!!

DjSolJAH

WassyLad wrote: »

If the reds and yellows could stop attacking each other outside the last emp keep instead of sieging it and if the reds could stop pushing blue road whilst we're trying to take the last emp keep that would be great

Same struggle between EP and DC on the last yellow emp keep. A bunch on both sides go to the edges and hold block, but it's a chain reaction when the pugs rush in

pod88kk

Looks like the yellow haderus zergs have moved to scourge

Badgerbeast

Lol yellows just claiming Blue Road for their home keep haha too funny. Would u like Chalman too while ur at it? Hey reds could u just stay at ur spawn (greatly appreciated. You know what going to need those scrolls too. Hey dealing with dc. TKL here, give us a break PS ur pal the yellows.

pod88kk

And there we have it folks tkl & mczerg switch to their yellow alts when blues are taking a beating, next thing we'll see is badger & mcdouche chilling at the morrowind gate

RabNebula

Badgerbeast wrote: »

Lol yellows just claiming Blue Road for their home keep haha too funny. Would u like Chalman too while ur at it? Hey reds could u just stay at ur spawn (greatly appreciated. You know what going to need those scrolls too. Hey dealing with dc. TKL here, give us a break PS ur pal the yellows.

My guild owns Chalman. We dont give it up easy when we get there.

As for Blue Road its pretty frustrating that EP keep letting that go so freely at times when the main guilds arent on. Right now with TKL wanting to nightcap all the time then of course EP arent going to aggro on AD, TKL are asking for a team orange to form and shut DC down in the day. That said, EP do need to stop AD if they get greedy though. Ideally the limit should be the bridge.

Badgerbeast

the same chalman im taking now lol

WassyLad

pod88kk wrote: »

Why should reds stop taking blue road? It's THEIR keep, maybe you should try take roebuck from us every now and again instead of just going going to sejanus, come on yellows give us blues a proper fight, we're begging for it!!!!

When there's an emp keep to take blue road shouldn't take priority only idiots would push on blue road instead of the last emp keep

Pazz_

Badgerbeast wrote: »

the same chalman im taking now lol

*notes the time and sighs*

Buffler

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Badgerbeast wrote: »

the same chalman im taking now lol

*notes the time and sighs*

Says it all doesnt it lol

Badgerbeast

Wat does the time matter u guys wiped us u have double the numbers its the reds that have most numberes just you dont know wat to do with them half the time and complain about yellow and blue zergs its sad

Buffler

Badgerbeast wrote: »

Wat does the time matter u guys wiped us u have double the numbers its the reds that have most numberes just you dont know wat to do with them half the time and complain about yellow and blue zergs its sad

What does the time matter??

It matters because you zerg when everyone is asleep and you fight npc's all night. As for EP having the most numbers.....you are joking!

DjSolJAH

WassyLad wrote: »

pod88kk wrote: »

Why should reds stop taking blue road? It's THEIR keep, maybe you should try take roebuck from us every now and again instead of just going going to sejanus, come on yellows give us blues a proper fight, we're begging for it!!!!

When there's an emp keep to take blue road shouldn't take priority only idiots would push on blue road instead of the last emp keep

Nevertheless like I said before, pugs will be pugs. When yellow has last emp keep blues push Arrius. When blues have it reds and yellows fight at blue road. Never fails... I sign into the game, look at the scoreboard and time and can pretty much guess exactly what's happening on the map. Sadly this has become the norm for campaign.

I agree EP should not be pushing blue road and should be working to depose emp, but like I said in my last post EP and AD would just fight inside the last emp keep. AD shouldn't have pushed to blue road with a DC emp anyways.

EP and AD need to have a "cease fire" campaign to push the DC back to PvE but it will never happen. We took over scourge so it's only natural that AD pugs will continue pushing EP to spite. And EP pugs are the worst in the game. They have no concept or strategy and just run into walls(literally).

Pazz_

DjSolJAH wrote: »

EP and AD need to have a "cease fire" campaign to push the DC back to PvE but it will never happen. We took over scourge so it's only natural that AD pugs will continue pushing EP to spite. And EP pugs are the worst in the game. They have no concept or strategy and just run into walls(literally).

Agreed.

And this is why I'm taking a break from the game as PvP is awful right now. May jump back on briefly, but I have my alts leveled and ready for Dark Brotherhood. Generally not that interested until then unfortunately.