Question to the DC stacking 2-3 full groups (if not more) in Azuras

Gol Barr

im here to steal the comments of the ******* zergs dc of coarse

Tripwyr

WRX wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

I think the point is you get a lot of those wins, and even to some degree the absurd hours, because its nearly always a full raid whenever VE is around.

And the idea that 16 can't push objectives is just...

Guess it just depends on your 16.

EDIT: I wasn't there at all last night, too much work etc. But I do know VE joining an already lagtastic campaign is possibly the last thing anyone needs unless 40 other active primetime DC players decide to leave. I see both points, but tend to side more with Jules and hiding behind large numbers.

It's not like we are taking keeps from inferior numbers, we were consistently fighting against more than what we had.

Not sure where the 16 man came up. Agree with your sentiment.

And we've been on Azuras for quite a while now, this isn't anything new. If the group size is 24, and you've got 24 guildies on, why not run with them all? 24 is the max group size. I get 16 is the cool number because it's smaller and 16 is maximum AP gains. If groups of 24 aren't stacking on top of each other I don't see the big fuss about it.

Well it does create more lag, and essentially removes a lot competition as it is somewhat rare you have to fight truly outnumbered, and almost never fight outnumber against other organized guilds. I say run with 16 if you are about the competition as many guilds before had done, some people aren't as concerned. And the argument that "Well they had more zerg power" is just hard for me to understand. You guys can only control what you do, but don't use others as an excuse haha..

Even if GoS had 24 and then 6 pugs, that's just essentially 6 free kills.

Regardless, the discussion is about AP gains and how large groups are pulling it off more successfully now than ever. Sure, winning fights is how you make AP, but people are now winning so many fights because they have so many players and all that entails.

It's Monday night at Raid time. Our old server Trueflame has 1 bar population yellow, blue, and red. Sorry to create lag on your server, but we don't feel like PvDooring all night. Or do you want us to murder the PvEers that maintain the Axe buff server. Or should we go into an underpopulated Haderus and just draw the ire of the people there for upsetting the balance and turning that into a lag server?

As someone who probably counts as a "pug" according to your definition since I don't affiliate myself with a Red Guild and occasionally am in the same fights as groups like GOS, I appreciate your honesty for how little I count in the grand scheme of ESO. K, I'm useless and free AP. Nice. I've seen you with a horde of yellows more times than I can count - the one night where Decibal, Alacrity, and every assorted yellow guild under the sun running circles around Arrius LM is something no EP who was will ever forget - so go right on ahead and try to hold yourself up as a shining example of what the ESO community ought to aspire to be.

el, Decibel.

And it was likely our two groups combined farming, or just a Deci group. And was still likely not full at all, and were farming actual guilds with pugs. And no I don't consider you a pug as you are an active player with an organized guild. Those aren't the players I am referring to.

And no, I don't blame VE for playing on an active server at all, anyone would do the same. Does not change the fact that another group will end up causing more of the same issues.

@Winnamine Why are we stopping at multiple raids? The game was designed for 24 in one group, but its mass PvP? I have 40 friends that I want to play with.

Like you have 40 friends.


(I joke! I kid! )

Well its at least down to 39 now -_-

R.I.P

As long as we're still friends, Muffin.

38 and counting..

hahah

My heart hurts

Joy_Division

WRX wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

I think the point is you get a lot of those wins, and even to some degree the absurd hours, because its nearly always a full raid whenever VE is around.

And the idea that 16 can't push objectives is just...

Guess it just depends on your 16.

EDIT: I wasn't there at all last night, too much work etc. But I do know VE joining an already lagtastic campaign is possibly the last thing anyone needs unless 40 other active primetime DC players decide to leave. I see both points, but tend to side more with Jules and hiding behind large numbers.

It's not like we are taking keeps from inferior numbers, we were consistently fighting against more than what we had.

Not sure where the 16 man came up. Agree with your sentiment.

And we've been on Azuras for quite a while now, this isn't anything new. If the group size is 24, and you've got 24 guildies on, why not run with them all? 24 is the max group size. I get 16 is the cool number because it's smaller and 16 is maximum AP gains. If groups of 24 aren't stacking on top of each other I don't see the big fuss about it.

Well it does create more lag, and essentially removes a lot competition as it is somewhat rare you have to fight truly outnumbered, and almost never fight outnumber against other organized guilds. I say run with 16 if you are about the competition as many guilds before had done, some people aren't as concerned. And the argument that "Well they had more zerg power" is just hard for me to understand. You guys can only control what you do, but don't use others as an excuse haha..

Even if GoS had 24 and then 6 pugs, that's just essentially 6 free kills.

Regardless, the discussion is about AP gains and how large groups are pulling it off more successfully now than ever. Sure, winning fights is how you make AP, but people are now winning so many fights because they have so many players and all that entails.

It's Monday night at Raid time. Our old server Trueflame has 1 bar population yellow, blue, and red. Sorry to create lag on your server, but we don't feel like PvDooring all night. Or do you want us to murder the PvEers that maintain the Axe buff server. Or should we go into an underpopulated Haderus and just draw the ire of the people there for upsetting the balance and turning that into a lag server?

As someone who probably counts as a "pug" according to your definition since I don't affiliate myself with a Red Guild and occasionally am in the same fights as groups like GOS, I appreciate your honesty for how little I count in the grand scheme of ESO. K, I'm useless and free AP. Nice. I've seen you with a horde of yellows more times than I can count - the one night where Decibal, Alacrity, and every assorted yellow guild under the sun running circles around Arrius LM is something no EP who was will ever forget - so go right on ahead and try to hold yourself up as a shining example of what the ESO community ought to aspire to be.

el, Decibel.

And it was likely our two groups combined farming, or just a Deci group. And was still likely not full at all, and were farming actual guilds with pugs. And no I don't consider you a pug as you are an active player with an organized guild. Those aren't the players I am referring to.

And no, I don't blame VE for playing on an active server at all, anyone would do the same. Does not change the fact that another group will end up causing more of the same issues.

@Winnamine Why are we stopping at multiple raids? The game was designed for 24 in one group, but its mass PvP? I have 40 friends that I want to play with.

Here's the thing. I don't blame you or anybody for playing on whatever server or with how many people. Quite frankly I don't really care. But I'm not buying the claims made by many people in this thread that they are someone exemplary ESO citizens who do not engage in the sort of behavior they admonish. On that night in February when AD decided they were pissed off with EP's nightcapping, zerging, "lagsploiting" (how much I miss that word), etc., and the entire faction went to Arrius LM for reasons, I don't care if your particular group wasn't full because those guilds were amongst the AD horde of 60 that were there. So when those yellows all of a sudden make public declarations about a similar type of behavior, it rings hollow.

Crown chastised Blue for engaging behavior on the same night his own faction had 50 yellows at Ash. And what happened the next night? Those 50 yellows, with additional reinforcements because there wasn't enough to do the job last night, made a beeline for Aleswell when, in the irony of ironies, most of the blue guilds weren't even there. Gratz on the dethrone. That was actually the correct strategic move. Again, I don't care. That horde got wiped three times and I got a lot more AP from them than they got from me. I personally think there would be a lot less toxicity, hurt feelings, and resentment if we all looked in the mirror, stopped making these threads, and simply just played the game without making public declarations regarding the behavior of other players. People really should stop whispering their opponents after every wipe making snide comments about the numbers they run.

I glad to hear you don't think of me as a "Pug," but pugs are people too. People who use AoE, congregate where the action is, and make their own considerable share of server calculations that bring upon the dreaded lag. They count. If your group is 16 and there are 44 pugs around you, sorry, but there are 60 players there, even if you'd rather them not be.

Satiar

That yellow hoard at Aleswell was legit. And people tell me I zerg, holy mother of Akatosh that was beyond TKO levels of raid stacking.

If you'd brought half as many I probably would have just let you have emp instead of taking Ash and Alessia.

Callidus_Est

And...I don't suppose anyone is going to talk about the absolutely massive EP Emperor Horde in AZ tonight? There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group. Methuselah got emperor and pushed DC all the way back to our gates and sacked the scrolls, all the while, they were completely ignoring the AD, not even touching them. AD had all of their home keeps while DC lost everything as EP buttfucked us. It doesn't seem like that long ago where this was a regular thing that happened to DC, and now as soon as everything turns in DC's favor, AD and EP zerglords cry to their mommies and run for the hills.

MountainHound

Yeah, EP 3 bars, ad/dc 1 each, PVDoor AD/DC back to their gates (Even after capping scrolls) and now 20 of them are spawn killing.

SkylarkAU

Satiar wrote: »

That yellow hoard at Aleswell was legit. And people tell me I zerg, holy mother of Akatosh that was beyond TKO levels of raid stacking.

If you'd brought half as many I probably would have just let you have emp instead of taking Ash and Alessia.

Emp trading is more of an EP/DC thing anyway

Jules

Callidus_Est wrote: »

There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group.

LOL 24? Are you drunk?

We have like a 5 man running around. Calm yourself.

Demonically_Angelic

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Lucky28

Callidus_Est wrote: »

And...I don't suppose anyone is going to talk about the absolutely massive EP Emperor Horde in AZ tonight? There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group. Methuselah got emperor and pushed DC all the way back to our gates and sacked the scrolls, all the while, they were completely ignoring the AD, not even touching them. AD had all of their home keeps while DC lost everything as EP buttfucked us. It doesn't seem like that long ago where this was a regular thing that happened to DC, and now as soon as everything turns in DC's favor, AD and EP zerglords cry to their mommies and run for the hills.

that's what DC where doing to us all last month. and what makes it worse we're pretty much stuck in this perpetual loop of "fight fire with fire " until ZoS steps in and removes AOE caps adds incentive to fight in small groups rather than large etc. i mean there is really nothing else, a big group comes, fight them with a bigger group and thus we have out problem.

_Chaos

Jules wrote: »

Callidus_Est wrote: »

There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group.

LOL 24? Are you drunk?

We have like a 5 man running around. Calm yourself.

"WE HAVE LIKE A 5 MAN RUNNING AROUND" SHE SAYS. bwahahaha please stahp.

Scamandros

Huckdabuck

I will say this much....play the game....who cares.

Side note : It was a long 17 hours of playing but I don't remember DC pushing EP all the way to their gates or making any attempts to take the EP scrolls during BBQ's two runs as emperor. I do know that we actually didn't even want Arrius touched (although a certain guild pushed up there) as it would have really disheartened the EP who were actually on and playing in the afternoon once he got crowned the 2nd time. Maybe that was a mistake on DC's part.

As I said above though.....play the game......who cares.

Rylana

Scamandros wrote: »

One of those rare images on these forums that actually makes me LOL

Gold.

GRxKnight

Callidus_Est wrote: »

And...I don't suppose anyone is going to talk about the absolutely massive EP Emperor Horde in AZ tonight? There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group. Methuselah got emperor and pushed DC all the way back to our gates and sacked the scrolls, all the while, they were completely ignoring the AD, not even touching them. AD had all of their home keeps while DC lost everything as EP buttfucked us. It doesn't seem like that long ago where this was a regular thing that happened to DC, and now as soon as everything turns in DC's favor, AD and EP zerglords cry to their mommies and run for the hills.

Not fun is it

Huckdabuck

GRxKnight wrote: »

Callidus_Est wrote: »

And...I don't suppose anyone is going to talk about the absolutely massive EP Emperor Horde in AZ tonight? There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group. Methuselah got emperor and pushed DC all the way back to our gates and sacked the scrolls, all the while, they were completely ignoring the AD, not even touching them. AD had all of their home keeps while DC lost everything as EP buttfucked us. It doesn't seem like that long ago where this was a regular thing that happened to DC, and now as soon as everything turns in DC's favor, AD and EP zerglords cry to their mommies and run for the hills.

Not fun is it

This actually made me giggle!

Blaqueflame

Huckdabuck wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Callidus_Est wrote: »

And...I don't suppose anyone is going to talk about the absolutely massive EP Emperor Horde in AZ tonight? There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group. Methuselah got emperor and pushed DC all the way back to our gates and sacked the scrolls, all the while, they were completely ignoring the AD, not even touching them. AD had all of their home keeps while DC lost everything as EP buttfucked us. It doesn't seem like that long ago where this was a regular thing that happened to DC, and now as soon as everything turns in DC's favor, AD and EP zerglords cry to their mommies and run for the hills.

Not fun is it

This actually made me giggle!

And so it goes, around and around and around. Blue, red, yellow ... truly makes me wonder why anyone logs into the game to PVP. The state of PVP is dire, the state of the player community ... vile.

Dkill

GRxKnight wrote: »

Callidus_Est wrote: »

And...I don't suppose anyone is going to talk about the absolutely massive EP Emperor Horde in AZ tonight? There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group. Methuselah got emperor and pushed DC all the way back to our gates and sacked the scrolls, all the while, they were completely ignoring the AD, not even touching them. AD had all of their home keeps while DC lost everything as EP buttfucked us. It doesn't seem like that long ago where this was a regular thing that happened to DC, and now as soon as everything turns in DC's favor, AD and EP zerglords cry to their mommies and run for the hills.

Not fun is it

Is fine with me is their time, the real challenge is to dethrone them, why complaining. To be honest if each faction would do their job, Crowning EMP wouldn't be such a cake walk. I like PvP to be competitive, i don't care about team orange, i don't care about AD zerg, i do care about having fun and good fights. The true here is that the game is broken and we have to deal with countless re log due to bad performance, extremely long logging screens, server reset during epic fights. There is nothing we can do about this but wait for the next best Real vs Realm game. So stop complaining, play the game and enjoy it, if you don't like it get a bottle Double Black and get drunk, playing the game from a drunk perspective is an entire new experience lol.

GRxKnight

Dkill wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Callidus_Est wrote: »

And...I don't suppose anyone is going to talk about the absolutely massive EP Emperor Horde in AZ tonight? There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group. Methuselah got emperor and pushed DC all the way back to our gates and sacked the scrolls, all the while, they were completely ignoring the AD, not even touching them. AD had all of their home keeps while DC lost everything as EP buttfucked us. It doesn't seem like that long ago where this was a regular thing that happened to DC, and now as soon as everything turns in DC's favor, AD and EP zerglords cry to their mommies and run for the hills.

Not fun is it

Is fine with me is their time, the real challenge is to dethrone them, why complaining. To e honest if each faction would do their job, Crowning EMP wouldn't be such a cake walk. I like PvP to be competitive, i don't care about team orange, i don't care about AD zerg, i do care about having fun and good fights. The true here is that the game is broken and we have to deal with countless re log due to bad performance, extremely long logging screens, server reset during epic fights. There is nothing we can do about this but wait for the next best Real vs Realm game. So stop complaining, play the game and enjoy it, if you don't like it get a bottle Double Black and get drunk, playing the game from a drunk perspective is an entire new experience lol.

Crowning emp is easy when you have population imbalance which is how all the Emps since last campaign have been crowned save for maybe a handful...minimal resistance vs an organized group and pugs

Dkill

GRXknight
You a lost case brother, i see some potential Publius on you. You have fail to acknowledge that the entire situation here involve game broken mechanics and not attacking a faction or a guild. Either way i am going to make my money and keep rolling AP in my screen but i would like PvP to be more competitive and Zos have fail to delivered that experience. .

Jules

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Callidus_Est wrote: »

There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group.

LOL 24? Are you drunk?

We have like a 5 man running around. Calm yourself.

"WE HAVE LIKE A 5 MAN RUNNING AROUND" SHE SAYS. bwahahaha please stahp.

5:58 am is when I posted that. So yeah, 5 man.

Meth, Hektik, myself, Clerod, Vex and for some of it Aegon. No ones denying there was insane EP pug aggro, we were laughing at it ourselves. But to just assume we're in a 24 man is pretty daft. We were nowhere near a full raid before or after meth got crowned.

But grats on finding your way to the bottom of the cesspool legacy.

GRxKnight

Dkill wrote: »

GRXknight
You a lost case brother, i see some potential Publius on you. You have fail to acknowledge that the entire situation here involve game broken mechanics and not attacking a faction or a guild. Either way i am going to make my money and keep rolling AP in my screen but i would like PvP to be more competitive and Zos have fail to delivered that experience. .

Ok all i did was makea statement which has been pretty indicative of the last 30 days of azura's...day 1 last cycle it was tough for ad to crown me emp, i went to bed and they crowned shendell at 9 am roughly...every crown emp was done in the sane fashion...all of alma ruma's are the same...meth last night is the same...only thing that hasn't has been bbq's first iirc. That's all i said in that statement...i know perfectly well the situation as I'm frustrated with having to fight 2-3 groups of blue wherever we go...i guess thanks that you think we're that much of a threat that you need that many to wipe us but come on...take crowns and many others advice and don't send the entire faction to defend one keep that's being hit by a group and some solo players...last night you were justified with having that many since we decided to play the numbers game we all hate (4 fps and 1k+ ping...don't see how that's fun for anyone)...but show some respect for your opponents by letting skill decide who wins and not lag, numbers, exploits etc.

Zheg

Jules wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Callidus_Est wrote: »

There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group.

LOL 24? Are you drunk?

We have like a 5 man running around. Calm yourself.

"WE HAVE LIKE A 5 MAN RUNNING AROUND" SHE SAYS. bwahahaha please stahp.

5:58 am is when I posted that. So yeah, 5 man.

Meth, Hektik, myself, Clerod, Vex and for some of it Aegon. No ones denying there was insane EP pug aggro, we were laughing at it ourselves. But to just assume we're in a 24 man is pretty daft. We were nowhere near a full raid before or after meth got crowned.

But grats on finding your way to the bottom of the cesspool legacy.

Much to say, but none of it would make any difference so what's the point? It's wonderful to see acknowledgement of the significant pug support though, that's an improvement.

Even though meth can be a dangerous emp, I've only ever heard good things about him (from all sides), so I'd certainly prefer him over some of the red that belong in Jules' cesspool legacy.

Jules

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Callidus_Est wrote: »

There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group.

LOL 24? Are you drunk?

We have like a 5 man running around. Calm yourself.

"WE HAVE LIKE A 5 MAN RUNNING AROUND" SHE SAYS. bwahahaha please stahp.

5:58 am is when I posted that. So yeah, 5 man.

Meth, Hektik, myself, Clerod, Vex and for some of it Aegon. No ones denying there was insane EP pug aggro, we were laughing at it ourselves. But to just assume we're in a 24 man is pretty daft. We were nowhere near a full raid before or after meth got crowned.

But grats on finding your way to the bottom of the cesspool legacy.

Much to say, but none of it would make any difference so what's the point? It's wonderful to see acknowledgement of the significant pug support though, that's an improvement.

Even though meth can be a dangerous emp, I've only ever heard good things about him (from all sides), so I'd certainly prefer him over some of the red that belong in Jules' cesspool legacy.

No idea what that last bit means. But honestly, don't even have the energy to go in circles anymore.

Joy_Division

Scamandros wrote: »

OMG tht's F*&%ing funny

Hektik_V

Jules wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Callidus_Est wrote: »

There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group.

LOL 24? Are you drunk?

We have like a 5 man running around. Calm yourself.

"WE HAVE LIKE A 5 MAN RUNNING AROUND" SHE SAYS. bwahahaha please stahp.

5:58 am is when I posted that. So yeah, 5 man.

Meth, Hektik, myself, Clerod, Vex and for some of it Aegon. No ones denying there was insane EP pug aggro, we were laughing at it ourselves. But to just assume we're in a 24 man is pretty daft. We were nowhere near a full raid before or after meth got crowned.

But grats on finding your way to the bottom of the cesspool legacy.

Much to say, but none of it would make any difference so what's the point? It's wonderful to see acknowledgement of the significant pug support though, that's an improvement.

Even though meth can be a dangerous emp, I've only ever heard good things about him (from all sides), so I'd certainly prefer him over some of the red that belong in Jules' cesspool legacy.

No idea what that last bit means. But honestly, don't even have the energy to go in circles anymore.

It's the fabled haxus 24 man raid.

Dkill

GRxKnight wrote: »

Dkill wrote: »

GRXknight
You a lost case brother, i see some potential Publius on you. You have fail to acknowledge that the entire situation here involve game broken mechanics and not attacking a faction or a guild. Either way i am going to make my money and keep rolling AP in my screen but i would like PvP to be more competitive and Zos have fail to delivered that experience. .

Ok all i did was makea statement which has been pretty indicative of the last 30 days of azura's...day 1 last cycle it was tough for ad to crown me emp, i went to bed and they crowned shendell at 9 am roughly...every crown emp was done in the sane fashion...all of alma ruma's are the same...meth last night is the same...only thing that hasn't has been bbq's first iirc. That's all i said in that statement...i know perfectly well the situation as I'm frustrated with having to fight 2-3 groups of blue wherever we go...i guess thanks that you think we're that much of a threat that you need that many to wipe us but come on...take crowns and many others advice and don't send the entire faction to defend one keep that's being hit by a group and some solo players...last night you were justified with having that many since we decided to play the numbers game we all hate (4 fps and 1k+ ping...don't see how that's fun for anyone)...but show some respect for your opponents by letting skill decide who wins and not lag, numbers, exploits etc.

Seriously i might be wrong here but every time we defending a keep the number i see from either AD or EP are astronomical. These is not matter of respect, is a matter of freedom ......

Cogo

FENGRUSH

Jules wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Callidus_Est wrote: »

There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group.

LOL 24? Are you drunk?

We have like a 5 man running around. Calm yourself.

"WE HAVE LIKE A 5 MAN RUNNING AROUND" SHE SAYS. bwahahaha please stahp.

5:58 am is when I posted that. So yeah, 5 man.

Meth, Hektik, myself, Clerod, Vex and for some of it Aegon. No ones denying there was insane EP pug aggro, we were laughing at it ourselves. But to just assume we're in a 24 man is pretty daft. We were nowhere near a full raid before or after meth got crowned.

But grats on finding your way to the bottom of the cesspool legacy.

Much to say, but none of it would make any difference so what's the point? It's wonderful to see acknowledgement of the significant pug support though, that's an improvement.

Even though meth can be a dangerous emp, I've only ever heard good things about him (from all sides), so I'd certainly prefer him over some of the red that belong in Jules' cesspool legacy.

No idea what that last bit means. But honestly, don't even have the energy to go in circles anymore.

Energy? You need FENGRUSH in your life, Jules!

Psilent

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Callidus_Est wrote: »

There must have been 50+ pugs, not including the 24-man emp group.

LOL 24? Are you drunk?

We have like a 5 man running around. Calm yourself.

"WE HAVE LIKE A 5 MAN RUNNING AROUND" SHE SAYS. bwahahaha please stahp.

5:58 am is when I posted that. So yeah, 5 man.

Meth, Hektik, myself, Clerod, Vex and for some of it Aegon. No ones denying there was insane EP pug aggro, we were laughing at it ourselves. But to just assume we're in a 24 man is pretty daft. We were nowhere near a full raid before or after meth got crowned.

But grats on finding your way to the bottom of the cesspool legacy.

Much to say, but none of it would make any difference so what's the point? It's wonderful to see acknowledgement of the significant pug support though, that's an improvement.

Even though meth can be a dangerous emp, I've only ever heard good things about him (from all sides), so I'd certainly prefer him over some of the red that belong in Jules' cesspool legacy.

No idea what that last bit means. But honestly, don't even have the energy to go in circles anymore.

Energy? You need FENGRUSH in your life, Jules!

Last I heard, the Lord of Shadows ZAZEER claimed Jules as his queen.

That sexy Aussie accent sealed the deal.