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  • Rylana
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    Also please stop saying Crown runs 1 group; Crown does not run one group, he Runs 3 to 6 depending on how things are going for him.

    1 group in this game is 4 people...

    Also whining about DC zerging (which i'm sure they do) is hilarious when I watched 40+ AD just a few days ago zerging around.

    Basically none of you have any room to talk when it comes to running your groups.


    No, one group is 24 people, Xsorus.

    4 people is 1/6th of a group.

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  • Crown
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    How is that, when your group is quite often running along side mohicans group

    @rich.magab14a_ESO You win the least knowledgeable comment of the day award! Someone send this man a potato! Mojican runs with Rage. I run with Rage. That means that we both run with Rage! When two people run in the same guild and play together they are part of the same group!
    if you care about the lag so much why is it your group will often go out of it's way to enter a fight that ad has no involvement in(ex. riding to join the dc vs ep fight at chalman when all ad keeps are in the south)?

    So we're supposed to stop pushing north when we have our home keeps? There are some basic concepts in Cyrodiil that you should learn about before commenting again..
    Edited by Crown on November 29, 2015 11:37PM
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  • GRxKnight
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    Crown wrote: »
    @Xsorus yeah you watched 40 AD, and if one of them was my group, what would have happened is:
    Crown, "Hey leader of the other group, where are you intending to go next? We'll head to a different objective so we don't lag things out".
    Other leader, "We're going to smash X-Location"
    Crown, "Cool, we'll head to Y-Location and yell in zone if you need help"

    What seems to happen with DC lately is:
    Blueberry, "Hey leader of the other group, come stack on us so that nobody will take damage in either of our groups, and lets have an AoE lag fight to wipe these AD! I wonder if we can make them rage quit due to lag?"

    Really "We'll head to a different objective so we don't lag things out". How is that, when your group is quite often running along side mohicans group? Also if you care about the lag so much why is it your group will often go out of it's way to enter a fight that ad has no involvement in(ex. riding to join the dc vs ep fight at chalman when all ad keeps are in the south)? The lag has been a problem long before DC was able to put up numbers to win a campaign.

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  • rich.magab14a_ESO
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    Crown wrote: »
    How is that, when your group is quite often running along side mohicans group

    @rich.magab14a_ESO You win the least knowledgeable comment of the day award! Someone send this man a potato! Mojican runs with Rage. I run with Rage. That means that we both run with Rage! When two people run in the same guild and play together they are part of the same group!
    if you care about the lag so much why is it your group will often go out of it's way to enter a fight that ad has no involvement in(ex. riding to join the dc vs ep fight at chalman when all ad keeps are in the south)?

    So we're supposed to stop pushing north when we have our home keeps? There are some basic concepts in Cyrodiil that you should learn about before commenting again..

    You sure bypass a lot of keeps if thats what you call pushing north. Whats that like a 15 minute trip to join the lag on an objective that you will not be able to hold due to being surrounded by ep and dc
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  • Xsorus
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Also please stop saying Crown runs 1 group; Crown does not run one group, he Runs 3 to 6 depending on how things are going for him.

    1 group in this game is 4 people...

    Also whining about DC zerging (which i'm sure they do) is hilarious when I watched 40+ AD just a few days ago zerging around.

    Basically none of you have any room to talk when it comes to running your groups.


    No, one group is 24 people, Xsorus.

    4 people is 1/6th of a group.

    1 group is 4 people.
    24 people is 6 groups

    Hell if I'm not mistaken doesn't the group ui itself tell you when you make a large group what is group 1/2/3 ect ect?

    The only people who believe 24 people is one group are frankly morons.. I mean I can't really say it any nicer... Like straight up eat glue type people.

    "The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited's adventure zones are designed for both small and large groups of PvE (player versus environment) players. You can enter adventure zones with a small group of up to four members and tackle certain challenges, but zones also contain objectives that will test larger groups that have banded together to take down something too big to handle without help."

    Now this was taken from the knowledge base on this site; now less I'm mistaken... When you say add an s at the end up group you are implying multiples...

    Edited by Xsorus on November 30, 2015 2:56AM
  • Scamandros
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Also please stop saying Crown runs 1 group; Crown does not run one group, he Runs 3 to 6 depending on how things are going for him.

    1 group in this game is 4 people...

    Also whining about DC zerging (which i'm sure they do) is hilarious when I watched 40+ AD just a few days ago zerging around.

    Basically none of you have any room to talk when it comes to running your groups.


    No, one group is 24 people, Xsorus.

    4 people is 1/6th of a group.

    1 group is 4 people.
    24 people is 6 groups

    Hell if I'm not mistaken doesn't the group ui itself tell you when you make a large group what is group 1/2/3 ect ect?

    The only people who believe 24 people is one group are frankly morons.. I mean I can't really say it any nicer... Like straight up eat glue type people.

    "The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited's adventure zones are designed for both small and large groups of PvE (player versus environment) players. You can enter adventure zones with a small group of up to four members and tackle certain challenges, but zones also contain objectives that will test larger groups that have banded together to take down something too big to handle without help."

    Now this was taken from the knowledge base on this site; now less I'm mistaken... When you say add an s at the end up group you are implying multiples...

    Cyrodil is not a dungeon. I think you should lay off that glue mate clearly had too much already
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  • GRxKnight
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Also please stop saying Crown runs 1 group; Crown does not run one group, he Runs 3 to 6 depending on how things are going for him.

    1 group in this game is 4 people...

    Also whining about DC zerging (which i'm sure they do) is hilarious when I watched 40+ AD just a few days ago zerging around.

    Basically none of you have any room to talk when it comes to running your groups.


    No, one group is 24 people, Xsorus.

    4 people is 1/6th of a group.

    1 group is 4 people.
    24 people is 6 groups

    Hell if I'm not mistaken doesn't the group ui itself tell you when you make a large group what is group 1/2/3 ect ect?

    The only people who believe 24 people is one group are frankly morons.. I mean I can't really say it any nicer... Like straight up eat glue type people.

    "The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited's adventure zones are designed for both small and large groups of PvE (player versus environment) players. You can enter adventure zones with a small group of up to four members and tackle certain challenges, but zones also contain objectives that will test larger groups that have banded together to take down something too big to handle without help."

    Now this was taken from the knowledge base on this site; now less I'm mistaken... When you say add an s at the end up group you are implying multiples...

    Do i need to post the same thing i did to you but to this post instead? As stated pve groups are 4 or 12 for trials...if 1 group is 4 people then why doesn't cyrodiil cap at 4? Because it's not it's 24 now hush
    Edited by GRxKnight on November 30, 2015 3:57AM
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  • Xsorus
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    Scamandros wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Also please stop saying Crown runs 1 group; Crown does not run one group, he Runs 3 to 6 depending on how things are going for him.

    1 group in this game is 4 people...

    Also whining about DC zerging (which i'm sure they do) is hilarious when I watched 40+ AD just a few days ago zerging around.

    Basically none of you have any room to talk when it comes to running your groups.


    No, one group is 24 people, Xsorus.

    4 people is 1/6th of a group.

    1 group is 4 people.
    24 people is 6 groups

    Hell if I'm not mistaken doesn't the group ui itself tell you when you make a large group what is group 1/2/3 ect ect?

    The only people who believe 24 people is one group are frankly morons.. I mean I can't really say it any nicer... Like straight up eat glue type people.

    "The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited's adventure zones are designed for both small and large groups of PvE (player versus environment) players. You can enter adventure zones with a small group of up to four members and tackle certain challenges, but zones also contain objectives that will test larger groups that have banded together to take down something too big to handle without help."

    Now this was taken from the knowledge base on this site; now less I'm mistaken... When you say add an s at the end up group you are implying multiples...

    Cyrodil is not a dungeon. I think you should lay off that glue mate clearly had too much already

    Neither is most of the content in the game; but you can still go past 4 people and it will say multiple groups.
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    GRxKnight wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Also please stop saying Crown runs 1 group; Crown does not run one group, he Runs 3 to 6 depending on how things are going for him.

    1 group in this game is 4 people...

    Also whining about DC zerging (which i'm sure they do) is hilarious when I watched 40+ AD just a few days ago zerging around.

    Basically none of you have any room to talk when it comes to running your groups.


    No, one group is 24 people, Xsorus.

    4 people is 1/6th of a group.

    1 group is 4 people.
    24 people is 6 groups

    Hell if I'm not mistaken doesn't the group ui itself tell you when you make a large group what is group 1/2/3 ect ect?

    The only people who believe 24 people is one group are frankly morons.. I mean I can't really say it any nicer... Like straight up eat glue type people.

    "The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited's adventure zones are designed for both small and large groups of PvE (player versus environment) players. You can enter adventure zones with a small group of up to four members and tackle certain challenges, but zones also contain objectives that will test larger groups that have banded together to take down something too big to handle without help."

    Now this was taken from the knowledge base on this site; now less I'm mistaken... When you say add an s at the end up group you are implying multiples...

    Do i need to post the same thing i did to you but to this post instead? As stated pve groups are 4 or 12 for trials...if 1 group is 4 people then why doesn't cyrodiil cap at 4? Because it's not it's 24 now hush

    You are aware you can make groups larger then 4 people outside of cyrodiil right?
    And to answer your question why you can make groups larger then 4 is because there is zero reason to separate the mechanics based on zones. You could do the same thing in warhammer online as well. they called it a warband in that game. It's pretty standard to do this in MMOs now a days; you could do it in rift and swtor as well.. Basically there is no reason to make a limit except in terms of pve instances it seems. Regardless. One group in this game is 4 people. 24 people is 2 trial groups or 2 raid groups in this game.

    Also I'm not the only one who thinks 24 people is a raid.

    "So you don't deny these accusations of zerging? Funny how you deflect everything when we ask you guys to say with certainty that you're having fun zerging around the map with *** frames you guys contribute to by running with your massive numbers. I wonder if CN would be able to distinguish themselves as a good guild if they didn't need the crutch of 3 raids in close proximity to each other to achieve anything...and I'm going to stop you right now from saying that there's only ever your one raid of whatever number under 24 present, because anyone from AD or EP with at least half a brain knows that's complete BS"

    This is a quote from some dude whining about getting zerged by dc... One sec I'll give you his name so you can msg him and call him out... I hope I'm spelling this right

    GRxKnight... Maybe you should msg him and talk about hindsight.
    Edited by Xsorus on November 30, 2015 4:18AM
  • SkylarkAU
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    group, raid, warband.. who cares
    Edited by SkylarkAU on November 30, 2015 4:22AM
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  • cote-bmsb16_ESO
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    I dont even know why bananas are crying, when they dont even attempt to siege Ash unless they have a 300 players. I see you guys doing the same *** to each other. How about that *** where AD and EP only focus on DC keeps and push us back to our home keeps.. 4 man group isnt guna do *** verses two other factions spamming aoes.
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    Edited by SkylarkAU on November 30, 2015 4:22AM
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  • Rust_in_Peace
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    Are people really crying about lag and zergs on the first day of a new campaign?
  • Galalin
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    Are people really crying about lag and zergs on the first day of a new campaign?

    Just gonna be blunt...Are you new here? Do you think the 2nd or 3rd day will be any better? Or 20th for that matter?

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  • Lord-Stien
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    Going to be honest here...

    Most DC guild's DO NOT LIKE ZERG's

    and the one that dose... we tend to stay away from them... let them do their own thing..

    @crown We know your pain... when they zerg WE ALL FEEL IT..

    Soon AOE caps will go out the door...

    Hopefully one day this game will be geared towrd skill and taactics....

    Not the mind number crap for skill derp derp's from the village of the retarwardd's
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  • Inig0
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    Crown wrote: »
    Do you actually find it fun to consistently fight 1/3 to 1/2 of your numbers? I've been getting a lot of whispers from DC in the past hour at how it's our fault that DC is lagging when they fight my group - do you not understand that when you have more than 40 people stacked tightly fighting less than half your numbers, it's YOU who are the cause of the lag?

    Playing back the shadowplays, and looking at combat analytics from a few different people, our group that has ranged from 12-20 for the past few hours has been fighting anywhere from 40 to 90 opposing DC in every single fight.

    The AD group leaders are discussing this now - and we could easily band together and bring numbers as you do, though none of us find it fun to zerg that hard and lag-fight, so none of us want to do so.. We really don't understand your motivation, unless it's "win the campaign regardless of how little fun people have themselves"...?

    On another note, how much AP do you make per kill when there are that many of you stacked in one place?

    i just wanted to highlight the bolded section as a acknowledgement by Crown that he knows he zergs. trololol

    Seriously though,
    Why zerg at all. I dont see how anyone finds it fun at all. You spam spin and stay on crown. whooptedoo.
    Your issues are certainly warranted crown but as you are well aware numbers = win in this game as it stands.
    Complaining about the size of a zerg being the issue is futile.

    The problem is zergs to begin with you know that.
    Every faction zergs, you know that.
    People sending you hate tells. Thats unwarranted and immature. You know that.

    So that leaves me wondering why you came here to post this at all.. I have not found the answers.. I guess ill look deeper in Krothas bags.
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  • Telel
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    I dont even know why bananas are crying, when they dont even attempt to siege Ash unless they have a 300 players. I see you guys doing the same *** to each other. How about that *** where AD and EP only focus on DC keeps and push us back to our home keeps.. 4 man group isnt guna do *** verses two other factions spamming aoes.

    https://youtu.be/qr61drJqdD4

    Telel is not good at math. But they don't think they brought enough Spartans. Plenty of persians show up though.
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  • Huckdabuck
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    Telel wrote: »
    I dont even know why bananas are crying, when they dont even attempt to siege Ash unless they have a 300 players. I see you guys doing the same *** to each other. How about that *** where AD and EP only focus on DC keeps and push us back to our home keeps.. 4 man group isnt guna do *** verses two other factions spamming aoes.

    https://youtu.be/qr61drJqdD4

    Telel is not good at math. But they don't think they brought enough Spartans. Plenty of persians show up though.

    That was the VE emp push raid which ran 24 folks since server reset this morning in order to get AoE Barbecue his first emperorship!

    Edit - We are the ones that came running in during the last 30 seconds or so.
    Edited by Huckdabuck on November 30, 2015 7:12AM
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  • Xsorus
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    Sharee wrote: »
    Pot, kettle, black...

    Rofl; I know right... Just something hilarious about a know zerger crying about people out zerging him while having people in the thread talking about how a raid is really just one group *grin*. The level of disconnect here is astounding....
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    These threads really have to stop. Especially when made by people who can be accused of living in a glass house. Crown, your are going to tell me you had 12 people in your group. You probably did. But when I was at Ash there were upwards of 40-50 yellows there. OK, I get it, they aren't in your group. Maybe they want to leech AP off you. Maybe they are just sheep who have zero intuitive and follow you are because you get things done for your faction. Maybe they showed up after your group took Ash because that's where the action was. Or maybe they just like to look at your character's ass. Doesn't change the fact that there were 40-50 yellows the one time I went to Ash last night.

    So you just keep going ahead and keep making these threads and posting screenshots with 12 people in your group. Because we all know the "Crown Zerg" would never engage in any such behavior they are accusing a certain blue group..

    i dunno, DC has been Really *** sleazy these past couple of days. Aside from Zerging i've seen multiple DC tonight in the past hour who are unkillable, killed them like 3 times over, healths at zero and they're still walking around.

    Screw this, i'll just avoid PvP for the time being.
    Edited by Lucky28 on November 30, 2015 8:34AM
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  • Nafirian
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    Morostyle wrote: »
    This is a daily routine in EU Azura ;)
    Thing is - when you have a powerful group of 12-16-20 that wipes another group, they only have one choice - stack up with more people. Atleast thats how it works on EU atm. The more people they stack, the better chance to wipe a smaller pr0 group, and it seems to work. The lag is in their favor due to aoe cap and skills not going thru + greybars ;)

    EU EP are masters of this technique - 2-3 raids + pugs, blob of do0m and lag :D

    Brah be kind to the EP Ants of Azuras they have feelings too. I think.
  • LadyNalcarya
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    This is the reason why I deleted my vet DC char lol.
    There's absolutely no fun in this. And I would really love to see a balanced campaign, not just endless blue zergs. Yeah, every faction zergs, but I've never seen a red or yellow 100-man blob.
    And funnily, when there's 24-man red or blue group, its a "zerg" and lonely gankers who killed by that group are crying. When there's multiple blue groups stacked together, its apparently fine, just some small scale pvp. :)
    Edited by LadyNalcarya on November 30, 2015 11:21AM
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  • Alucardo
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    can you stop RPing and type in the forums like a normal person? i can't get past the first 3 sentences without cringing so hard i must stop reading.

    This one does not play a Khajiit, but he thinks you should let people talk the way the want if they enjoy it. Dark moons, my friend. Dark moons.
  • Alucardo
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    Haven't read the entire thread yet, because I'm going to assume a majority of it is bashing as usual.

    From someone who came from Blackwater to Azuras it was a pretty horrific experience. From what I saw, both DC and AD had zergtrains (not just DC) and I didn't know wtf was going on. There were AoEs going off everywhere, completely lagging me the hell out. I couldn't see the screen from all the explosions of light.
    We're talking full-blown nuclear warfare, not PVP. How do you guys enjoy that?

    I understand your frustration, but it's wrong to call out DC for stacking full groups when you have AD scum bringing full vet guilds to non-vet just to crown an emp. Everyone is guilty. There's BS happening everywhere, and.. one sec, my spaghetti is burning.
    So yeah, I'd really love to see more small-scale PVP, but it ain't happening on Azuras. So I try out Trueflame and DC is obliterating everything there.
    I'd hate to say it, but if every campaign was like Blackwater, PVP in ESO would be bloody amazing. You have fairly constant war, random small-scale PVP, lack of areas (barely any one running ice comet or spamming bats), and best of all, no lag.

  • pfalzer
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    This is laughable ....

    What do people come to cyrodil to do. Get some pvp in and AP. Have you guys tried herding pugs it doesnt matter who has what group when. Pugs go to wherever they see crossed swords. And if those swords or keeps are persistenty showing an ongoing fight pugs are not going to follow crown to some part of the map to take a strategic local they will go to the burst and if kicked they will make there own groups and go to the burst. All three factions have this problem. Ive tagged along with CN numerous times you think they are actively stacking groups to do what? To lag themselves out of game leaving. I play from germany so i usually never lag out of game but when we encounter large groups a good portion of CN lag out and log back in dead... does not sound like a great strategy unless they were trying feed strawberries and bananas AP. I think its a bit unfair if said group also bursts a keep but must leave bc a pug herd decided to come and take advantage of the burst. It is uneeasonable to ask any guild to leave that area.

    So the safe bet is when u encounter a large group its mostly due to the fact DC groups are not communicating they are reacting to bursts or swords. And just when you see CN for example or deltia and all of a sudden a few more come its not bc CN or whoever called its due to a slew of AP hungry pugs seeing a burst or crossed swords. How the hell is any guild supposed to direct players that cant even follow rules and orders within a group to stay away from the keep for the greater good of game performance. This problem will never go away. ZOS needs to do sth about the servers or sth about how pvp is set up. Bc now its like turning one light on in a room full of moths of course they are going to rush the one bulb.
  • BigTone
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    Inig0 wrote: »
    Crown wrote: »
    Do you actually find it fun to consistently fight 1/3 to 1/2 of your numbers? I've been getting a lot of whispers from DC in the past hour at how it's our fault that DC is lagging when they fight my group - do you not understand that when you have more than 40 people stacked tightly fighting less than half your numbers, it's YOU who are the cause of the lag?

    Playing back the shadowplays, and looking at combat analytics from a few different people, our group that has ranged from 12-20 for the past few hours has been fighting anywhere from 40 to 90 opposing DC in every single fight.

    The AD group leaders are discussing this now - and we could easily band together and bring numbers as you do, though none of us find it fun to zerg that hard and lag-fight, so none of us want to do so.. We really don't understand your motivation, unless it's "win the campaign regardless of how little fun people have themselves"...?

    On another note, how much AP do you make per kill when there are that many of you stacked in one place?

    i just wanted to highlight the bolded section as a acknowledgement by Crown that he knows he zergs. trololol

    Seriously though,
    Why zerg at all. I dont see how anyone finds it fun at all. You spam spin and stay on crown. whooptedoo.
    Your issues are certainly warranted crown but as you are well aware numbers = win in this game as it stands.
    Complaining about the size of a zerg being the issue is futile.

    The problem is zergs to begin with you know that.
    Every faction zergs, you know that.
    People sending you hate tells. Thats unwarranted and immature. You know that.

    So that leaves me wondering why you came here to post this at all.. I have not found the answers.. I guess ill look deeper in Krothas bags.

    Because all i do
    Is spin
    And win
    And make AP
    Big'Tone-V16 DC Sorc AR31
    Sneaky'Tone-V16 DC NB AR22
    Holy'Tone-V12 DC Temp
    Chunky'Tone-33 DC DK (BWB beast)

    Worst NB NA
    Roll dodging magicka sorc


    "Do you know why they call him Big'Tone?"
  • BigTone
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    Zavus wrote: »
    Carnafex24 wrote: »
    Also, keep in mind that a lot of those numbers you linked are probably guards and various NPC's.

    dont forget sorc pets....i bet it was just 20 sorcs with two pets each. That would be 50...plus npcs 71. there.

    -Metha

    Has anyone else seen that EP sorc with 2 Winged Twilights and 2 Volatile Familiars? He told me "If everyone is going to zerg, then I'm going to need a zerg of my own".

    WTB 24 man sorc raid with 2 winged twilights, 2 clanfears, storm atro, and Daedroth from undaunted helm. By my count thats 168 in one group, or according to other people in this thread, 42 groups.

    I'll call it "BigTone and his travelling circus".

    And we will all
    stack
    on
    crown
    And transform ala power rangers megazord and become the ultimate Daedric Atronarch Sorcerer AND WE WILL CRUSH ALL THREE FACTIONS BENEATH OUR 432 FEET(which will be morphed into two very large feet) AND WE SHALL ENSLAVE THE DOMINION, PACT, AND THE COVENANT!!!

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    Big'Tone-V16 DC Sorc AR31
    Sneaky'Tone-V16 DC NB AR22
    Holy'Tone-V12 DC Temp
    Chunky'Tone-33 DC DK (BWB beast)

    Worst NB NA
    Roll dodging magicka sorc


    "Do you know why they call him Big'Tone?"
  • Master_Kas
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    BigTone wrote: »
    Inig0 wrote: »
    Crown wrote: »
    Do you actually find it fun to consistently fight 1/3 to 1/2 of your numbers? I've been getting a lot of whispers from DC in the past hour at how it's our fault that DC is lagging when they fight my group - do you not understand that when you have more than 40 people stacked tightly fighting less than half your numbers, it's YOU who are the cause of the lag?

    Playing back the shadowplays, and looking at combat analytics from a few different people, our group that has ranged from 12-20 for the past few hours has been fighting anywhere from 40 to 90 opposing DC in every single fight.

    The AD group leaders are discussing this now - and we could easily band together and bring numbers as you do, though none of us find it fun to zerg that hard and lag-fight, so none of us want to do so.. We really don't understand your motivation, unless it's "win the campaign regardless of how little fun people have themselves"...?

    On another note, how much AP do you make per kill when there are that many of you stacked in one place?

    i just wanted to highlight the bolded section as a acknowledgement by Crown that he knows he zergs. trololol

    Seriously though,
    Why zerg at all. I dont see how anyone finds it fun at all. You spam spin and stay on crown. whooptedoo.
    Your issues are certainly warranted crown but as you are well aware numbers = win in this game as it stands.
    Complaining about the size of a zerg being the issue is futile.

    The problem is zergs to begin with you know that.
    Every faction zergs, you know that.
    People sending you hate tells. Thats unwarranted and immature. You know that.

    So that leaves me wondering why you came here to post this at all.. I have not found the answers.. I guess ill look deeper in Krothas bags.

    Because all i do
    Is spin
    And win
    And make AP



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  • Alcast
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    Zerglings QQing abour Zerglings? Oh boy


    The real question is: Why does one even bother continue playing when the lag starts
    Edited by Alcast on November 30, 2015 12:28PM
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