What? The same way "anti-text" chat folk try to pigeonhole the pro-text chat folk as strictly PC players sticking their oar in on a console issue?Kleptobrainiac wrote: »I like how the pro text chat folks try to pigeonhole the anti text chat players as strictly console players who have never played a PC MMO or gamers new to MMOs altogether.
Anyway, I've said it before....and it seems to be coming true - we're all starting to look like poo-flinging monkeys. And ZOS only get invovled when they have to clean up the cages.
Hey now! I'm very clear that both sides of the argument end up looking poo flinging monkey's.Kleptobrainiac wrote: »What? The same way "anti-text" chat folk try to pigeonhole the pro-text chat folk as strictly PC players sticking their oar in on a console issue?Kleptobrainiac wrote: »I like how the pro text chat folks try to pigeonhole the anti text chat players as strictly console players who have never played a PC MMO or gamers new to MMOs altogether.
Anyway, I've said it before....and it seems to be coming true - we're all starting to look like poo-flinging monkeys. And ZOS only get invovled when they have to clean up the cages.
Must reduce opponent to subhuman caricature!
Hey now! I'm very clear that both sides of the argument end up looking poo flinging monkey's.Kleptobrainiac wrote: »What? The same way "anti-text" chat folk try to pigeonhole the pro-text chat folk as strictly PC players sticking their oar in on a console issue?Kleptobrainiac wrote: »I like how the pro text chat folks try to pigeonhole the anti text chat players as strictly console players who have never played a PC MMO or gamers new to MMOs altogether.
Anyway, I've said it before....and it seems to be coming true - we're all starting to look like poo-flinging monkeys. And ZOS only get invovled when they have to clean up the cages.
Must reduce opponent to subhuman caricature!
So that gif should've been posted twice.
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--The below text are my opinions.
*How many threads will be made asking about text base chat for consoles?
*How can ZOS state that they're listening to the players while saying they don't feel text base chat is ideal for consoles?
*When are the people of ZOS going to really listen and give console players text base chat, which is such a simple request?
*I not a console player but they should have the option to use text base chat!
*ZOS forum mods only come around to tell ppl how to act while on the forums, and there's nothing wrong with that, but how about going the extra mile. How about instead of always acting as police, you act as the bridge between the players and the devs. How about you mods give us players some answers in regard to what we're talking about and asking from ZOS.
--The above text are my opinions.
Hi, everyone. We understand that people are going to disagree from time to time, but please remember to keep your comments respectful at all times on our forums, even when you disagree with others. Insults or other disruptive behavior do not help further discussion and can move a thread off topic quickly. We encourage sharing opinions, but we ask that they are constructively stated when doing so, as this will help keep the discussion on track. Thank you!
--The below text are my opinions.
*How many threads will be made asking about text base chat for consoles?
*How can ZOS state that they're listening to the players while saying they don't feel text base chat is ideal for consoles?
*When are the people of ZOS going to really listen and give console players text base chat, which is such a simple request?
*I not a console player but they should have the option to use text base chat!
*ZOS forum mods only come around to tell ppl how to act while on the forums, and there's nothing wrong with that, but how about going the extra mile. How about instead of always acting as police, you act as the bridge between the players and the devs. How about you mods give us players some answers in regard to what we're talking about and asking from ZOS.
--The above text are my opinions.
And I support these opinions 110%.
such BS like PC gamers wouldn't have this problem.
you simply can't design a video game especially a mmorpg using some primitive UI design criteria. that list in this case is invalid. a mmorpg is far more complex than that. also, you can't design a mobile phone like you're designing a video game. a bug in the tamriel's map will make some nerd kids mad but a bug in the apple maps may take your life.
anyway. I'll give you examples why people need using text.
usually consoles are placed in living rooms where the TVs are. Living rooms generally are the biggest rooms in a house which means, it's more likely they'll share walls with other rooms. which means unless you're living alone, you need to shut your mouth late at night.
text is permanent, voice is temporary. in a social game like this, you'll need to teach people things, give instrucitons to your group members, theorycraft, share links, advertise game related stuff etc.
language issues, especially in europe. when you play eso, it's easy to understand the game designed by americans how? like many other american products their R&D teams and designers won't give a f. about the rest of the world. there are people out there understand what they listen, type well but unable to speak english clearly. I personally had that issue when I failed to explain something (like a dungeon boss etc) in english.
disabilities, social issues, temporary illnesses and others.
did they really research how often mmo players face with these issues?
so mr. einstein. Sorry but all these people raging here in the forums begs the question.
What if ZoS didn't implemented text chat in their game cos they felt like they shouldn't? *mind blown*
TBH as a serious TES and MMORPG fan, it is actually starting to get really frustrating not having a chat box and after so long.
Its stupid we even have to ask for this, eso is an amazing game the best mmo ever imo. So why on earth aint we got a chat box.
The reasons are sooo many but bottom line is we NEED one.
This is voice chat 'working' on console? Yea....ok....sounds like the Taco Bell drive thru. And that awesome language filter in action....wait, was that a dog in the background? Was that someone doing dishes?....
http://youtu.be/LODxwDrba2o
I dont want a new car from them, a simple chat box is suffice.
It is worst then skype quality.This is voice chat 'working' on console? Yea....ok....sounds like the Taco Bell drive thru. And that awesome language filter in action....wait, was that a dog in the background? Was that someone doing dishes?....
http://youtu.be/LODxwDrba2o
I dont want a new car from them, a simple chat box is suffice.
The Edsel community might have a asked the TextChat equivalent for that car.
You assume a 'simple' chat box is suffice.
But in fact, you really don't know if it is for all of us. Odds are even high it's not suffice for you too.
No pino, its gonna be more than suffice for me. I honestly dont care about all the other bugs, glitches and imbalances at the moment, mainly because I cant get in a group to experience them in the first place. Im playing an mmo, but I might as well be playing skyrim or oblivion, thats been my experience so far with this game.
That you can streamline chatting with half-fixed or full-fixed sentences.
THATwould be a solution that’s serving king Gamepad.
Language issues aren't solved by typing.
anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
That you can streamline chatting with half-fixed or full-fixed sentences.
THATwould be a solution that’s serving king Gamepad.
Pino's coming with actual suggestions ? Waow, today's D-day !
But wait... your solution implies... text chat, doesn't it ? Gamepad-friendly text chat ?
Welcome aboard the pro-text-chat Pino ! :-)
anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
Of course they are. To a very large extent.
Even non-english speakers will learn very quickly and easily to write "focus adds or boss ?" in text chat, or "LF1M magicka sorc for white gold tower vet dungeon". 95% of people will be able to express that and understand it. Nobody will be able to understand it in a spoken way or pronounce it in an understandable way over the microphone (especially in a cacophony), unless they've learned the language first. Text is always more accessible than vocal in a foreign language.
(And don't tell me I don't have the background in linguistics because I do.).
No, my solution is not about TextChat.anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
That you can streamline chatting with half-fixed or full-fixed sentences.
THATwould be a solution that’s serving king Gamepad.
Pino's coming with actual suggestions ? Waow, today's D-day !
But wait... your solution implies... text chat, doesn't it ? Gamepad-friendly text chat ?
Welcome aboard the pro-text-chat Pino ! :-)
So, they don't only have to learn English, but also a subculture language similar as English.
And you're silent about the people who play the game not that often. They will have a hard time in learning and recalling your subculture language.
Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Since I've already debated this I'm just going to answer the OPs titled question "Console players how do you feel about having no txt chat?".
Ok let's see...
I feel slightly PO because it's supposedly an mmorpg yet communication is limited to local area voice chat where I'm either forced to listen to the dreggs of the gaming worlds daily goings on, which includes everything from crap music, terrible mics, family arguments, bathroom breaks to racist slurs etc or leave the channel and not interact with anyone at all while I go about my business.
Has anyone at ESO live ever noticed the distinct lack of community events from console when reading them out?.
I feel sad but unsurprised that many have left so soon after console release or that I've seen "lack of a chat box" be cited among the many reasons for quitting on many seperate occassions, a few are now wishing to transfer from console to PC but most have just left completely as a transfer wouldn't be an option for everyone even if it was made possible.
I feel let down when I watch ESO live and there's still no acknowledgement of this much called for basic feature despite the support of the majority of community members whom have taken the time to constructively add to those many dozens of threads. (seriously even PC players don't understand why we don't have text chat)
But hey at least we're all upto date on the really important issues like what time the "evening of tea tasting special blends" get together is on PC/Mac
I feel annoyed that it doesn't even seem important enough to warrant a simple yes, no or "we've heard you and we're taking another look at that as an option for you guys" answer from zos.
This helpful poll from Pino shows that a majority of console users would find a use for text chat as they either already have a keyboard attached, attach one whilst playing ESO or would indeed attach one should an optional text chat become available.
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/222369/do-you-have-attached-a-keyboard-to-your-console-ps4-or-xbox-one/p1
I feel embarrassed not just for Zos but also myself when I see that Rocket league (an indie game with a tiny budget and which was free on PS4) actually has a chat box whilst this AAA mmorpg title doesn't.
I feel mostly dispondant with this game these days overall, so much so that it's to the point now where I log on... I raise an eyebrow at seeing so very few people around (PS4 EU)... I do my writs and first pray to and then curse the RNG... I sigh in dispair at the stale economy... I think about crafting and then think "what's the point, they can buy it at the crownstore"... I feed my mount, I facepalm the latest ability nerfs, I pause for a moment to ponder facing the load screens... and then I log out.
And when I've done all that I log into the forums of sunshine and light here to see if there's any news on the issues important to me, sadly disappointed here too.
On a brighter note FO4 is almost here whilst it's not an mmo it really doesn't feel like ESO is at the moment so please reconsider the decision which removed text chat from the port to console.
My 2 cents.