[The Bug Notes] Compendium of current Bugs / Exploits

Starshadw

Jura23 wrote: »

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I55UE5 wrote: »

On my Stamplar, I can sometimes cast Remembrance multiple times in a row. It heals every time as well, it is just forgetting to use my ultimate.

While near the end of the animation I am usually spamming maneuver or purify for an escape, not 100% sure if this is causing it.

I have casted it 3 times In a row before while in fights. I do not think latency has anything to do with it.

Yep, I know this bug as well. But I dont complain

I've wondered about this, because all of us templars who use it have this happen. Can it possibly be related to how ultimate builds up (and continues to build up, so that you can get a number much higher than whatever is needed for 100%? I also have wondered if I've noticed something similar happening with the Sorceror Overload ultimate - meaning it lasts longer than it really should. I can't tell for certain because I haven't played my sorc often enough to really get a feel. But there have been several times where I've hit the ult and it just felt as though it should have "drained" much faster (for lack of a better way of putting it).

Fasold666

Still not fixed...

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/de/discussion/221681/bug-still-not-fixed-since-3-months-not-able-to-progress-in-the-fighters-guild-skill-line-anymore#latest

zerosingularity

Banner bosses in Imperial Sewers, vampiric totems. You cannot directly target these with any melee skills, only ranged. AoE skills cast while focused on them do not go off.

Molag Baal in imperial Sewers. This was supposed to be fixed, but most often than not, the center portals are all blue and shiny, but no monsters spawn, even after 40+ minutes of waiting.

Sharakor

Surprisingly I haven't seen the battle spirit exploit in Cyrodiil lol

Cadelay

People are exploiting in Cyrodil to be able to see any player in the vicinity, in stealth. Please please find a way to ban/block this.

Xantaria

Starshadw wrote: »

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Xantaria wrote: »

Nobody is Macroing and I really hope people will stop believing this crap everybody screams as an excuse for getting killed by a superior player that is used to animation cancelling.

Macroing in this game is not used by good players because they know how unreliable it is. On their current potato megaservers there is no way to execute macros reliably. It also takes away your ability to react to stuff.

We're going to have to agree to disagree. When I literally go from full health to dead in the time it takes to blink, before the game even visually registers a single skill? I know there's more going on than animation canceling. Even with ani-canceling (which certainly speeds things up), it's not possible to kill in that short a time.

Sorry but this is complete ***. How can a Macro bypass the restrictions the game has? even with Animation cancelling there IS A LIMIT given by the game which can NOT BE SURPASSED. NEITHER with Macroing NOR with Animation cancelling.

And a good Animation canceler will always be better than someone using Macros.

And I can oneshot people within 0,1 seconds aswell whenever I want. I do this by using a build that is made to do exactly that aswell as clever cancelling of animations.

I just see this macrostuff as an excuse for people who don't know why they just died. People who don't know why this sequence of skills was able to hit within the blink of an eye. You need more knowledge about which animation cancels which one and how and then you'll understand your death recap without the need to scream for someone being macroing.

For example a oneshot combination from a Bow / 2H DK will look like this:

In Stealth
Cast Rally
Cast Camouflaged Hunter
Cast Molten Armaments
Charge A Bow Heavy Attack
When it's fully Charged press Silver Leash and at the second you pressed it cancel that animation with a Weapon Swap and cast Critical Rush

You'll have 5 skills in your Death recap when Camouflaged Hunter Proccs
And all of that hit you in less than a second.

And if the target is still alive you'll initiate a lightattack and as soon as you pressed it you press Executioner which will cancel out your light attack animation.

Xantaria

Nebthet78 wrote: »

There is another thread here, but there are issues happening with heavy attacks right now. Particularly any heavy attacks you make one after the other when keeping the mouse button pressed down.

I have been playing my Templar a lot lately and I have been testing it out on their and been able to repeat and trigger the bug a lot.

I have actually found that I run into the bug if, I attempt to use Vampire's Bane and attack from a distance.
More often then not, Vampire's Bane will misfire. It will show the beginning animation, but then won't follow through. Then, when I get within melee range, I can get off 1 heavy attack, but I will not get the next heavy attack follow through you get if you leave your button mouse pressed down. The animation completely stops and you have to release and press down the mouse button again. Otherwise you just stand there looking dumb.

So what I end up getting is attacks that look like this... Puncturing sweep... Puncturing sweep... heavy attack... stop..... puncturing sweep, vampire's bane... heavy attack... stop. Scramble, scramble, scramble for distance.. heal, heal.. puncturing sweep, puncturing sweep, puncturing sweep.. vampire bane, radiant destruction.

I also find this bug is most often happening on bosses of any kind. Quest bosses, World Bosses, Dungeon Bosses. So, it is really inconvenient and a pain to deal with.

I have had to ensure now that I don't use a ranged skill attack to start a fight, otherwise I end up with the bug.
I did submit a ticket detailing what it was I was doing that would trigger the bug.


Has any one else determined what they do that triggers this bug?

Happens to me aswell a lot I found that swapping weapons fast while doing this can be the cause of this ... It usually goes away after ~30 seconds.

Dracane

I know, it's not the best research example in the world. But I think this indicates, that something is odd with pet crit and it must be lower than intended. I have 68,2% spell crit. My twilight attacked 12 times, yet no single crit. My familiar landed 1 crit in 6 attacks. So 18 attacks but only 1 single crit with a 68% crit chance ? I think you agree, this can't be no coincidence.
In fact since this "fix" I haven't seen my pet crit being more than 20% or so.

Xantaria

Dracane wrote: »

I know, it's not the best research example in the world. But I think this indicates, that something is odd with pet crit and it must be lower than intended. I have 68,2% spell crit. My twilight attacked 12 times, yet no single crit. My familiar landed 1 crit in 6 attacks. So 18 attacks but only 1 single crit with a 68% crit chance ? I think you agree, this can't be no coincidence.
In fact since this "fix" I haven't seen my pet crit being more than 20% or so.

I'm pretty sure this is a thing, Gilliam mentioned something liek this in the crit bug thread aswell I'll add it later.

Xantaria

Cadelay wrote: »

People are exploiting in Cyrodil to be able to see any player in the vicinity, in stealth. Please please find a way to ban/block this.

Please elaborate if you have more insight, because I have not experienced this nor do I know how this would be possible.

Xantaria

Ezareth wrote: »

Can we get Purifying Ritual "purifying off" crystal fragments added to the list?

Also Power Overload getting stuck in heavy attack or no attack when spamming light attacks too fast?

Also the being unable to use left click at all any more in the interface including block, break-free and using transitus?

Can you elaborate the issue with the crystal fragments + Purifying Ritual?

WarrioroftheWind_ESO

I don't know if this is listed or not. I checked the class abilities bracket and didn't see it, but the Daedric Tomb morph of Daedric Mines behaves kind of funny when indoors. If you're near a overhanging wall, or even a tunnel either in a cave, sewer, or building, if you cast the mines sometimes they'll appear on the ceiling instead of the floor, where its impossible for the mob to hit them. I'm not sure if its because of the way they cast where they arc up because its instant or not. I make it a point to use unconventional morphs so this is what I've observed with it.

Also the loading screen lore bits are still borked. Even tho ZOS says they fixed them last patch, I still see the Wrothgar Lore bits blink off to be replaced by generic gameplay tips all the time.

Refuse2GrowUp

A bit silly of a glitch, but a glitch none-the-less.

Ran Blackheart Haven a couple days ago when it was non-vet on my magica Sorc alt. On the final boss, when you get turned into a skeleton, it resets your Energy Overload 'third skillbar"...i.e. it changes whatever skills you set to what skills are set on the bar Energy Overload is on. In my case, Energy Overload was on my off-bar and the skills on my third bar would change to whatever was on my off-bar when I got turned to a skeleton.

A buddy of mine who was on a NB said he noticed his skills were getting FUBARd when he had done the dungeon earlier on his Sorc but it didn't occur to him what was happening...thus at least two of us experienced this glitch

Starshadw

Xantaria wrote: »

Sorry but this is complete ***. How can a Macro bypass the restrictions the game has? even with Animation cancelling there IS A LIMIT given by the game which can NOT BE SURPASSED. NEITHER with Macroing NOR with Animation cancelling.

And a good Animation canceler will always be better than someone using Macros.

And I can oneshot people within 0,1 seconds aswell whenever I want. I do this by using a build that is made to do exactly that aswell as clever cancelling of animations.

I just see this macrostuff as an excuse for people who don't know why they just died. People who don't know why this sequence of skills was able to hit within the blink of an eye. You need more knowledge about which animation cancels which one and how and then you'll understand your death recap without the need to scream for someone being macroing.

For example a oneshot combination from a Bow / 2H DK will look like this:

In Stealth
Cast Rally
Cast Camouflaged Hunter
Cast Molten Armaments
Charge A Bow Heavy Attack
When it's fully Charged press Silver Leash and at the second you pressed it cancel that animation with a Weapon Swap and cast Critical Rush

You'll have 5 skills in your Death recap when Camouflaged Hunter Proccs
And all of that hit you in less than a second.

And if the target is still alive you'll initiate a lightattack and as soon as you pressed it you press Executioner which will cancel out your light attack animation.

I can tell you're very proud of your ability to ani-cancel - good for you! But no, that's not what these very specific death recaps look like. It is, in fact, most often the same skill, or at most, two skills - and that is how I know it's not merely ani-canceling and making good use of buffs before attacking. Why? Because as you've point out, something is happening that bypasses the normal restrictions of the game. And, just to reassure you - I've never had Camo Hunter show up on one of these particular recaps.

In fact, not only are folks are using macros, they're using them to more efficiently/better ani-cancel - and, since you don't seem to believe anyone is using macros at all, I thought I'd provide a video for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZa4c-WZoE

So yes, people ARE in fact using macros (and note that this is from LAST year - so they've been doing it that long). Whether they are only using them in the above sense or in other senses (as I suspect they are), the fact remains that they ARE using them. You can certainly make your argument and say that yes it's ONLY about the ani-canceling, but I will still argue that the macroing is part of the problem because it allows things to happen even faster than what would be possible manually (because we are human beings and that means human versus computer reaction time).

Xantaria

Starshadw wrote: »

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Xantaria wrote: »

Sorry but this is complete ***. How can a Macro bypass the restrictions the game has? even with Animation cancelling there IS A LIMIT given by the game which can NOT BE SURPASSED. NEITHER with Macroing NOR with Animation cancelling.

And a good Animation canceler will always be better than someone using Macros.

And I can oneshot people within 0,1 seconds aswell whenever I want. I do this by using a build that is made to do exactly that aswell as clever cancelling of animations.

I just see this macrostuff as an excuse for people who don't know why they just died. People who don't know why this sequence of skills was able to hit within the blink of an eye. You need more knowledge about which animation cancels which one and how and then you'll understand your death recap without the need to scream for someone being macroing.

For example a oneshot combination from a Bow / 2H DK will look like this:

In Stealth
Cast Rally
Cast Camouflaged Hunter
Cast Molten Armaments
Charge A Bow Heavy Attack
When it's fully Charged press Silver Leash and at the second you pressed it cancel that animation with a Weapon Swap and cast Critical Rush

You'll have 5 skills in your Death recap when Camouflaged Hunter Proccs
And all of that hit you in less than a second.

And if the target is still alive you'll initiate a lightattack and as soon as you pressed it you press Executioner which will cancel out your light attack animation.

I can tell you're very proud of your ability to ani-cancel - good for you! But no, that's not what these very specific death recaps look like. It is, in fact, most often the same skill, or at most, two skills - and that is how I know it's not merely ani-canceling and making good use of buffs before attacking. Why? Because as you've point out, something is happening that bypasses the normal restrictions of the game. And, just to reassure you - I've never had Camo Hunter show up on one of these particular recaps.

In fact, not only are folks are using macros, they're using them to more efficiently/better ani-cancel - and, since you don't seem to believe anyone is using macros at all, I thought I'd provide a video for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZa4c-WZoE

So yes, people ARE in fact using macros (and note that this is from LAST year - so they've been doing it that long). Whether they are only using them in the above sense or in other senses (as I suspect they are), the fact remains that they ARE using them. You can certainly make your argument and say that yes it's ONLY about the ani-canceling, but I will still argue that the macroing is part of the problem because it allows things to happen even faster than what would be possible manually (because we are human beings and that means human versus computer reaction time).

And I do this without macros. This macroing is restricted by the game the same way animation cancelling is restricted by it. There is a certain point where you cannot be faster. No matter if you animation cancel or macro.

So I do not see an issue with this at all. He's jsut doing with 1 button what I do with 3 button presses in the same time his 1 button needs to execute the commands. I can however stop my action in the middle of the combination of buttons to do something else or more profitable whereas he is bound to finish what he started.
So he's rather gaining disadvantages than advantages.

And no he is not automatically faster because he is using macros.
Switching bar using a skill and switching back is not bount to your reaction time. It's bound to your muscle memory. You don't need to react you just need to do what you always do press switch button press skill button before you even see the switch because you KNOW when it will be available and swap back as soon as you pressed the skill button.

JustSnilloc

Back in August, (when I first got this game) I decided to create a character based on the idea of going fast. Faster than a horse! I looked up all the speed bonuses available to me and decided to go through with this plan. It's December now, and I finally reached Vet 1 and achieved the last of the primary speed bonuses. Excited, I decided to test out these bonuses to make sure that they could stack and that I wasn't passing up better gear for nothing.

Then I came to realize that the Speed Bonuses were being added at roughly HALF of what their description claimed that they should be. I recorded my speed tests, and organized all the math in one convenient little video below.

https://youtu.be/VJZo6Yn9D5A

I'm really disappointed that this is the case. I contacted customer support over this, but after several emails back and forth (along with some troubleshooting), it seemed to be a problem that was out of their hands.

It's worth noting that there should be no reason for the speed bonuses not working as described except for possible (in-game) formula errors. Frames per second, and my system's processing power at the time should have no bearing on this as this video was shot all in one go (and later edited to include the math). With my characters natural base speed as the "control", everything added on top should work as officially described, but it doesn't.

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Platform - PS4
Server - NA (United States)
Character Name - Jub the Swift

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(I also posted this in the PS4 Technical Support section, another user suggested I post it here)

Xantaria

JustSnilloc wrote: »

Back in August, (when I first got this game) I decided to create a character based on the idea of going fast. Faster than a horse! I looked up all the speed bonuses available to me and decided to go through with this plan. It's December now, and I finally reached Vet 1 and achieved the last of the primary speed bonuses. Excited, I decided to test out these bonuses to make sure that they could stack and that I wasn't passing up better gear for nothing.

Then I came to realize that the Speed Bonuses were being added at roughly HALF of what their description claimed that they should be. I recorded my speed tests, and organized all the math in one convenient little video below.

https://youtu.be/VJZo6Yn9D5A

I'm really disappointed that this is the case. I contacted customer support over this, but after several emails back and forth (along with some troubleshooting), it seemed to be a problem that was out of their hands.

It's worth noting that there should be no reason for the speed bonuses not working as described except for possible (in-game) formula errors. Frames per second, and my system's processing power at the time should have no bearing on this as this video was shot all in one go (and later edited to include the math). With my characters natural base speed as the "control", everything added on top should work as officially described, but it doesn't.

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Platform - PS4
Server - NA (United States)
Character Name - Jub the Swift

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(I also posted this in the PS4 Technical Support section, another user suggested I post it here)

Without going through the calculations just yet are you aware that a 100% speed bonus will mean you'll reach your target at 50% of the usual time needed? Because you're going twice as fast. Just because I saw you emntion they would only be half as effective I thought you might have done a mathematical error here.

100% faster does not mean you'll need 100% less time because that would mean that you'll be teleporting at 100% faster.

FelixTheCatt

Not being snotty here but do we ever get any kind of eta on when we can expect any of these fixes involved in this thread? Still waiting on the fix for not showing online on Ps4 and that's been for ages now.

Cathexis

@Xantaria Dark Deal +Morphs doesn't scale with anything. Uncertain if it is affected by cp bonuses. Also questioning if the passive extending duration is extending the cast time (would be cool if someone could confirm)

Also if you light attack too quickly with overload, sometimes you get stuck in a heavy attack, draining your ultimate pool. (PC)

Edit also on PC, sometimes when using a trebuchet the aiming line does not appear -- often requires exiting and entering the trebuchet repeatedly to fix.

JustSnilloc

Xantaria wrote: »

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JustSnilloc wrote: »

Back in August, (when I first got this game) I decided to create a character based on the idea of going fast. Faster than a horse! I looked up all the speed bonuses available to me and decided to go through with this plan. It's December now, and I finally reached Vet 1 and achieved the last of the primary speed bonuses. Excited, I decided to test out these bonuses to make sure that they could stack and that I wasn't passing up better gear for nothing.

Then I came to realize that the Speed Bonuses were being added at roughly HALF of what their description claimed that they should be. I recorded my speed tests, and organized all the math in one convenient little video below.

https://youtu.be/VJZo6Yn9D5A

I'm really disappointed that this is the case. I contacted customer support over this, but after several emails back and forth (along with some troubleshooting), it seemed to be a problem that was out of their hands.

It's worth noting that there should be no reason for the speed bonuses not working as described except for possible (in-game) formula errors. Frames per second, and my system's processing power at the time should have no bearing on this as this video was shot all in one go (and later edited to include the math). With my characters natural base speed as the "control", everything added on top should work as officially described, but it doesn't.

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Platform - PS4
Server - NA (United States)
Character Name - Jub the Swift

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(I also posted this in the PS4 Technical Support section, another user suggested I post it here)

Without going through the calculations just yet are you aware that a 100% speed bonus will mean you'll reach your target at 50% of the usual time needed? Because you're going twice as fast. Just because I saw you emntion they would only be half as effective I thought you might have done a mathematical error here.

100% faster does not mean you'll need 100% less time because that would mean that you'll be teleporting at 100% faster.

I am aware of this, but double checking my formulas to see if this holds true in them made me realize I was doing something weird with the calculations. Regardless, rerunning the numbers still shows them as being far less than they are described.

willymchilybily

JustSnilloc wrote: »

Back in August, (when I first got this game) I decided to create a character based on the idea of going fast. Faster than a horse! I looked up all the speed bonuses available to me and decided to go through with this plan. It's December now, and I finally reached Vet 1 and achieved the last of the primary speed bonuses. Excited, I decided to test out these bonuses to make sure that they could stack and that I wasn't passing up better gear for nothing.

Then I came to realize that the Speed Bonuses were being added at roughly HALF of what their description claimed that they should be. I recorded my speed tests, and organized all the math in one convenient little video below.

https://youtu.be/VJZo6Yn9D5A

I'm really disappointed that this is the case. I contacted customer support over this, but after several emails back and forth (along with some troubleshooting), it seemed to be a problem that was out of their hands.

It's worth noting that there should be no reason for the speed bonuses not working as described except for possible (in-game) formula errors. Frames per second, and my system's processing power at the time should have no bearing on this as this video was shot all in one go (and later edited to include the math). With my characters natural base speed as the "control", everything added on top should work as officially described, but it doesn't.

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Platform - PS4
Server - NA (United States)
Character Name - Jub the Swift

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(I also posted this in the PS4 Technical Support section, another user suggested I post it here)

@JustSnilloc
there are a few other considerations like time to begin animation, accuracy of measurement, distance travelled (you are following a path that is not straight line) this leaves room for a large margin of error.

also you should test items individually not stacked if any one of the abilities is bugged it will throw the results of all tests off, and you should measure % from the base not from the new fastest time, also you are not including being an orc 10% in calculating the base

eg. you are an orc you have the passive and so your base of 23.12 seconds should be 25.43. you then compare the results against this % 7/7 pieces of medium + orc =21%+10% = 31% time was 20.5. non orc/armor time would have been 25.43 suddenly you have 24% increase not a 31% increase but still enough to put the rest down to timing/distance error. and far more than your calculation of 13%

then do the same with fjords legacy.18.34 seconds compared to base 25.43 seconds is a 38.7% increase 21+10+15 = 46%
okay we are 8% out but the margin for error is again there. and 6% error became 8% perhaps due to the timing being shorter more region for error between starting stopping timer and for animation starting? i mean you did only test once and have once set of data points.

anyway long spiel. nothing you post really can prove there is a problem without further testing. but i am glad someone has tested the orcs run speed

Phinix1

Wow, this thread is super depressing. But thanks to all that compiled/contributed to it.

I would like to add:
[BUG] Restoring Twilight not restoring!

I initially received an auto-response "try relogging" after I explicitly stated I had already done so. When I replied back to that effect, I received another auto-response that stated "watch for patch notes."

Reading through the MASSIVE list of major bugs, it seems this MIGHT be another case of an ability that is nullified by CP passives that do the same thing, rather than stacking as it should.

Gilliamtherogue

Dracane wrote: »

I know, it's not the best research example in the world. But I think this indicates, that something is odd with pet crit and it must be lower than intended. I have 68,2% spell crit. My twilight attacked 12 times, yet no single crit. My familiar landed 1 crit in 6 attacks. So 18 attacks but only 1 single crit with a 68% crit chance ? I think you agree, this can't be no coincidence.
In fact since this "fix" I haven't seen my pet crit being more than 20% or so.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/230461/first-you-broke-weapon-crit-now-you-broke-pet-crit#latest Yep. Pet crit was broken in a minor patch shortly after orsinium launched. It has been completely ignored, as all of my bug reports are.

Derra

Could you add flame leash exploit ignoring harness magica (directly damaging hp with harness up).

JustSnilloc

@willymchilybily

there are a few other considerations like time to begin animation, accuracy of measurement, distance travelled (you are following a path that is not straight line) this leaves room for a large margin of error.

Time to begin animation isn't an issue, because I'm using two landmarks beside the road to mark my time. By the time I pass the first, I'm already in the run animation.

Accuracy of measurement isn't perfect, but It's within 1/10th of a second.

Distance traveled only lends support to the accuracy. While I'm not running in a straight line, I'm sticking to the middle of the road as much as possible. While I only recorded one run, I did more that weren't recorded. My margin of error was less than 2/10ths of a second.

also you should test items individually not stacked if any one of the abilities is bugged it will throw the results of all tests off, and you should measure % from the base not from the new fastest time, also you are not including being an orc 10% in calculating the base

That's true, it would require resetting my skills several times though. Maybe with ZoS looking at it, they can determine such.

Some people in the other topic have suggested that the formula isn't based on sprint speed (like the official description claims), but is instead based on walking speed.

Vezuls

Add to console: Eruption seems to be bugged. The tooltip says exactly this for me:

"Summon a scorching cloud of ash at the target location, dealing an instant 2864 flame damage to nearby enemies and 3768 physical damage more every 0 seconds."

This NEEDS A FIX

Smolt

When you activate retreating maneuvers during combat, then activate cloak it incorrectly cancels out retreating maneuvers.

Smolt

Cadelay wrote: »

People are exploiting in Cyrodil to be able to see any player in the vicinity, in stealth. Please please find a way to ban/block this.

Must be the old detect portion exploit

cyx54tc

light attack is often bugged. sometimes you just cant perform a light attack, one click of the left button would charge for a heavy attack regardless how fast you release it, if you cast a skill during the heavy attack channel, no light/heavy attack would occur.

Another similar bug: sometimes the ability queue wont work. For example if you are holding down the left button while performing a WB, the heavy attack should be channeled immediately after WB is fired. Or if you are channeling a heavy attack and used WB, the heavy attack should be fired immediately and channel WB right after (animation cancel). But sometimes under unknown circumstances this queue won't work. holding down the left button simply does nothing, even after WB has been fired. Roll dodge will fix this.

Zaldan

Warhorn (Assault): The unmorphed version of this can often be activated without costing Ultimate. You can sometimes spam this ability multiple times and then even use a different Ultimate on top. In rare cases this also happens with the morphed versions of this skill.

Dont have this skill but have several times been able to use the morhp of Rite of Passage - Remembrance without ultimate cost, this is NOT being caused by lag as it was on Trueflame and lag free at the time, every time it's happened I've used Remembrance again within 1-2 secs.