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No to VR16
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nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭There is a cultural divide here. For some people getting gear is the purpose of the game, for others gear is just a tool or obstacle in the way of playing the game.
For the first type of player this just mean that the increase is an option to play more, for the second type it means they have to spend more time "wasted" on getting gear before they are fully competitive again.
What worries me is that if the game caters to the first type of player then they try to compete with WoW instead of presenting their own attraction, and no one outwows wow, it is doomed to fail. And at the same time they drive away the other type of players, which is much more common among console players.
No this decision will cost them a lot of money.2 -
Radolfus✭✭✭I for one wouldn't mind V16. But please... Please auto level my armor. I made it all yellow and its worth a lot. This is literally 50% of the complaints and mine. AUTOLEVEL OUR ARMOR PLEASE@RaddyBK
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tengri✭✭✭✭✭What bothers me the most is that this jerk had to mouth off about V16 now... when it's still months out.
Is it? Months out?
Because if so he just killed any reason to try getting stuff like monster sets or any vet dungeon dropped gear (it's highly likely that dungeons will then start scaling up to v14 or even v16, too; at least one can save up the keys. So. Ty for that. I guess.) or any PvP/Cyrodiil dropped V14 gear, basically any non-crafted set out there for the whole summer.
Yeah, I said it. What a jerk...2 -
GamerzElite✭✭✭granty2008cyb16_ESO wrote: »let the race to vr16 begin :-)
means 3 days no Raid
only V16 grind for all. 0 -
Alphashado✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I made a full set of legendary V12 gear for my Templar exactly one week before they announced v14. And I mean FULL set including all weapons, extra weapons, and every single glyph...all gold.... And all wasted one week later. So I feel your pain. I decided then and there never to use gold tempers again. Purple is good enough.
Now I just sell my gold tempers to unfortunate people that may or may not get to enjoy them for a while.
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xSkullfox✭✭✭✭✭Stopped playing 4 months ago, played since beta. No dlc,no removing of veteran ranks, adding 2 new... wtf are you doing with the peoples money ??? "IC will be released when console version is sold..." here we go again.
Fixing no gamebreaking bugs or reset people who used it NOPE. *endless money bug* still existing
Its very sad to see how ESO progressed since the start of TU.Groupfinder:
The worst part is when it finally puts you in a group, your healer turns into a werewolf, your tank has 14k HP and the dps is heavy armor, using a restro staff and a two handed sword on the backbar. Then comes the 15 minute penalty before the cycle starts anew.
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GamerzElite✭✭✭Alphashado wrote: »I made a full set of legendary V12 gear for my Templar exactly one week before they announced v14. And I mean FULL set including all weapons, extra weapons, and every single glyph...all gold.... And all wasted one week later. So I feel your pain. I decided then and there never to use gold tempers again. Purple is good enough.
Now I just sell my gold tempers to unfortunate people that may or may not get to enjoy them for a while.
I was about to spend 300k for gear last night but luckily I broke deal, logged out from Game and BAM! this thread blown my mind.0 -
Tors✭✭✭✭✭
Champion points take over for vr levels
every one sits at 50 and all focus is on champion points
Meaning more groups for dungeons and trials
and for newer ones you can get right into endgame and do sliver and gold on the side
How do you work that one out?
How will removing the top 15 levels allow people who dont have the top end gear the chance of "end game content"?
Where will these groups happy to grind for crap exp come from?
If they take away VR levels they will need to implement different levels of gear, which the Vr10+ will probably start with, your baby level 50 will not have any gear that will make these newly formed dungeon and trial groups let him join.
It will be far worse for you.
"LF Trials Group"
"Whats your item level at?"
"Sorry no"
/em "Newby 50 runs to forums to complain"Better late Than Pregnant....
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Flynch✭✭✭✭Now i'm still not into my V-Ranks yet, so I may be way off base, but aside from the standard gear treadmill being an expensive path, the main issue seems to be the lack of meaningful content that the playerbase can use to advance from VR14 to VR16.
Would you guys have had a problem if they raised the cap to VR16 and included content along with it? Or is it just the fact they are increasing it, regardless?
(We'll ignore what they said about wanting to remove VR levels entirely, i'm sure we all knew that was a pipedream, based on how the game is set up currently)
It's mostly curiosity on my part to ask these things, as by the time I hit VR, we'll probably be up to VR215 by then.0 -
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Domardal✭✭✭They only reason I'm angry about vr 16 is that if I have to rebuy all the gear for my Stamina Templar in v16 (Ravager, Morag tong, shadowwalker) it'll cost me like 1,5 Mio, which I don't have, since I've been theorycrafting the Last months and testeted basically all possible setups for mage DK and Stamina Templar.
So maybe pls also scale golden v14 stuff to v16, or give us the possibility (by crafting) to Level the gear up by ourselves (like with a rare drop).
And pls also let all dungeons scale to max lvl, otherwise I'll have to run arround in v16 valkyn shoulders and v14 head, which would kinda frustrate me...
I hope you'll do something like this, otherwise it would be a direct Hit in the Face to all the Players, that are trying to get the Maximum out of their chars.
Not all People spent Most of their time ingame trading and can easily afford a rebuy.
That new sets are implemented is great! Just don't let us down on our current stuff!
The leveling itself can easily be done in under 1h, so no Problem there.
So please, I begg you, take this post in to consoderation!!
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sadownik✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think many are forgeting important issue. I personaly know many players that quit the game just because of veteran grind. I know many more that are holding on just on promise of removal of vr. Already there are threads by console players that are wondering wtf is wrong with the system.
We will see but in my opnion it wont end well.4 -
snackrat✭✭✭I've been slowly purchasing gear for the characters for once they hit V14. Now you're telling me I have to decon it, or sell it someone who doesn't know yet, because developers changed their minds..?! What a waste...0 -
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Leeric✭✭✭✭Wow, ZOS has been lying from the start and continues to do so. What happened to getting rid of the Vet ranks we were told so many times?
I didnt believe they would anyways because of their track record where they lied about everything else. Not only are vet levels not going away but you are increasing them? Seriously? That is about as backhanded money move you can get after saying there will be no new content.
I wont be spending another dime on this game, and I hope this game fails. Enjoy.1 -
SantieClaws✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I wonder if they will think about adding in everything that needs to go with this cap increase?
New provisioning recipes, new glyphs, new pots, new crafting mats?
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AngryNord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭At least they should restructure the level ranges for the vet level mats. Won't happen of course, but still0 -
Savinder✭✭✭I bet that after we get the VR15-16 levels, Zenimax will implement something akin to the "legendary skill" system from Skyrim, where you can freely reset a skill line back to one for a minor bonus to it each time you reset it, thus artificially creating more "progression".
I just wish they'd get rid of the VR system altogether, instead of having the same numbers and level creep that almost all MMOs have.Var var var0 -
Faulgor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭With the introduction of VR16, even the little endgame activities ESO currently has will dry up. Even now there is no reason to run Trials for gear, what will happen when they are clearly outmatched by crafted VR16 gear? Some people still run vDSA for master weapons, but even those will become less valuable. Group dungeons only scale up to VR12 and have been obsolete for gear for a long time - although people might want to run pledges to get VR16 shoulder pieces from boxes.
Without sweeping changes to itemization, this will only contribute to worsen the situation for endgame content. Even if the Imperial City becomes the new VR16 "zone", it's behind a PvP wall and will scare a lot of PvE players away.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
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AlcastClass RepresentativeIn the end it doesnt matter..
its either grind from:
Lv1-50 and v1-v16
or
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sadownik✭✭✭✭✭
✭In the end it doesnt matter..
its either grind from:
Lv1-50 and v1-v16
or
lv1-lv90
Its the quality of grind that matters. ESO is either single player quest grind, mob grind that is harder because of less and less locations for it or dungeons for whitch you need a group. I dont know about you, but i assume you have vr 14 already but belive me even with 4 guilds its hard to find a group below vr 12. Its the main issue with ESO for me. Due to lack of incentives for group activities outside pvp its pure copy pasta quests grind extravaganza and tahts what really is putting me off.Edited by sadownik on July 3, 2015 9:22AM2 -
sadownik✭✭✭✭✭
✭One more thing. People that are taking +50% from veteran quests as a huge buff are seriously misled. Even if it means all the quests in vet zones (but in my opinion it only applies to cadwells alamachs quests) the overall buff wont be bigger than 15% xp at most.
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nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭One more thing. People that are taking +50% from veteran quests as a huge buff are seriously misled. Even if it means all the quests in vet zones (but in my opinion it only applies to cadwells alamachs quests) the overall buff wont be bigger than 15% xp at most.
True and it doesn't matter to v14 char anyway since we have already used up the vet quests and don't have any left that we can gain the bonus from.1 -
AngryNord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »One more thing. People that are taking +50% from veteran quests as a huge buff are seriously misled. Even if it means all the quests in vet zones (but in my opinion it only applies to cadwells alamachs quests) the overall buff wont be bigger than 15% xp at most.
True and it doesn't matter to v14 char anyway since we have already used up the vet quests and don't have any left that we can gain the bonus from.
Lots of repeatable quests in Cyrodiil - they give damn good XP too. And there are also lot of repeatables in Craglorn.0 -
sadownik✭✭✭✭✭
✭nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »One more thing. People that are taking +50% from veteran quests as a huge buff are seriously misled. Even if it means all the quests in vet zones (but in my opinion it only applies to cadwells alamachs quests) the overall buff wont be bigger than 15% xp at most.
True and it doesn't matter to v14 char anyway since we have already used up the vet quests and don't have any left that we can gain the bonus from.
Lots of repeatable quests in Cyrodiil - they give damn good XP too. And there are also lot of repeatables in Craglorn.
Go to Cyrodil to run pve quests - priceless.0 -
lathbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »One more thing. People that are taking +50% from veteran quests as a huge buff are seriously misled. Even if it means all the quests in vet zones (but in my opinion it only applies to cadwells alamachs quests) the overall buff wont be bigger than 15% xp at most.
True and it doesn't matter to v14 char anyway since we have already used up the vet quests and don't have any left that we can gain the bonus from.
Lots of repeatable quests in Cyrodiil - they give damn good XP too. And there are also lot of repeatables in Craglorn.
Go to Cyrodil to run pve quests - priceless.
qq more guess what has come with every 2 level increase.0 -
nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »One more thing. People that are taking +50% from veteran quests as a huge buff are seriously misled. Even if it means all the quests in vet zones (but in my opinion it only applies to cadwells alamachs quests) the overall buff wont be bigger than 15% xp at most.
True and it doesn't matter to v14 char anyway since we have already used up the vet quests and don't have any left that we can gain the bonus from.
Lots of repeatable quests in Cyrodiil - they give damn good XP too. And there are also lot of repeatables in Craglorn.
As a DC player you rarely have acess to the cyrodiil repeatables and if you try to get near any of the quest hubs a horde of ep or ad will farm your sorry behind.
The Craglorn quests are not solo content....0
