Console text chat discussion
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭All this talk about text chat and defcon's extremely anti-text chat stances makes me wonder why @NewBlacksmurf hasn't commented in a while.
Because I'm playing...it's pointless to beat a dead horse.
If a game doesn't have what you want...stop playing and do something else.
I like the game as is. Other than server bugs I'm good
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Cuz...... Reasons.. Lol
"cuz" as in the slang term, or "cuz" as in 'because'?I'm offended that ur offended....
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Vulsahdaal✭✭✭✭✭
✭All this talk about text chat and defcon's extremely anti-text chat stances makes me wonder why @NewBlacksmurf hasn't commented in a while.
Probably because instead of bickering on the forums, hes actually playing the game lol1 -
Genomic✭✭✭✭✭defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »
Are u not 18? Yes, yes u do need to be 18 to play it.
Well you type like you were taught English on a cell phone. Or are 13.
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Well you type like you were taught English on a cell phone. Or are 13.
I'll tell u wat I tell all grammar police....There, Their, They're...its ok.I'm offended that ur offended....
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Genomic✭✭✭✭✭defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »
I'll tell u wat I tell all grammar police....There, Their, They're...its ok.
And that is why you fail.2 -
And that is why you fail.
Fail at wat? My opinion about this game?I'm offended that ur offended....
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I'm offended that ur offended....
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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »
Why should my friend miss out on any coms? No matter if vc is not blocked or not ....on the chosen console version?
I agree with there is no reason people should not choose the game and platform that best suits their situation/s. My friend, it is the console version....ur 'friends', Pc version. Both have their needs met.
So what about the deaf player who only plays console games ? What about people with social anxiety who are console exclusive ? You have absolutely no valid reason as to why both forms of communication can not exist on both platforms. DCUO is a console MMO that launched with text and voice chat and it worked perfectly fine. Just in case your new to the game industry, especially MMOS you would know that what is often advertised for a game changes drastically over the life the game. One more thing, they never said the game would never have text chat, just that it was launching with out it. Also you post on here like you speak for ALL console players and that you ALL don't want text chat well guess what that is YOUR opinion and nothing more. Before you give me some anecdotal evidence of the legions of console players that you know said they don't want text chat I know another legion of console players saying they do want it xD. Good luck chatting with your trade guilds who atleast here on the PC side have 500 active players all chatting at once. Someone said it here already, to have an effective MMO both text and voice chat are required, any MMO player who has a decent amount of /played will tell you the same.
Awaiting the response from @defcon.dealer1b14_ESO because he is the only one here saying no to the optional text chat. Although I am pretty it is a troll and has been fed way to much alreadyEdited by Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO on June 12, 2015 12:36AM1 -
Well sorts fans, game time. Have fun and remember, mic up, guild up, group up and hav sum fun
I'm offended that ur offended....
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Ojustaboo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Another slanging match, another soon to be locked thread about text chat.
I want both voice and chat,
OR
A way for group leaders in Cyrodiil to communicate with other group leaders in their faction without them having to leave group voice chat. Don't really care how it's done as long as it's possible somehow.
Edited by Ojustaboo on June 12, 2015 12:20AM0 -
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✭defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »Well sorts fans, game time. Have fun and remember, mic up, guild up, group up and hav sum fundefcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »Well sorts fans, game time. Have fun and remember, mic up, guild up, group up and hav sum fun
I love sorts. Sorting was one of my favorite jobs in my youth.0 -
Zazaaji✭✭✭✭
..... Right, as I have stated before, I want Voice Chat kept in the game, and not removed at all. It's nice to have especially in groups when people understand me and any other part of gameplay that requires fast communication. I'm asking for an added text feature ontop of voice chat. I've said both of those facts numerous times.defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »
And ur extremely anti-vc only stances makes me...well, I'm not surprised ur here
I am not "anti vc" as you claim because I do want voice chat for grouping and the like (and optional area chat), but you are indeed "anti text" because you do not want text chat added in any way, shape, fashion, or form.
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Edited by Zazaaji on June 12, 2015 12:41AMEnglish is not my first language, Finnish is.
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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »
Sure, my want is that they continue to keep text chat out of the console version, and that ppl new to this type of mmo gaming use what the devs have in place to trade, chat etc etc.
That is not every ones stance, but it's not just mine.
News Flash ! Devs never said that consoles will never get text chat only that it was not launching with it.
New type of MMO have I not been playing this game for a year now ? Nothing at all makes ESO a special snowflake in the MMO world. Or I can just spin it the other way, maybe you console players should play the way we have been playing MMOS for over 10 years, welcome to the party xD
Did you know the game launched without guild traders, they wanted people to interact in towns by shouting, while that still is a very effective way of trading, the guild traders were introduced to allow people to group up and sell wares as a guild, at the same time adding a whole new economy minigame through the bidding wars that occur. This example shows you how the direction of the game changes all the time, again welcome the world of MMO gaming.
Tell me good sir, if a player is not in a trade guild, or one with a good location that player misses out and being able to sell their wares because the game lacks the very basic functionality of text chat ?Edited by Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO on June 12, 2015 12:33AM2 -
Hawk269✭✭✭The most oddly thing that came out of the Reddit answers was their response about text chat and because we play consoles on a TV that it would be too hard to read and would not work good and that it would take up too much of the screen because they would have to make it large to read the text.
The game is 1080p on both consoles, many play the PC version on PC at 1080p and some of us, like me and my Wife play the PC version since Beta on our TV's with a wireless keyboard and mouse at 1080p sitting on our comfy couch.
So how can text be too small for TV screen to read by having a chat box, yet I and many others play the PC version at the same exact resolution and have a chat box that we have no issues able to read? Of course, I fully understand that there are various sizes of TV's out there and sitting 10' from a 65" screen versus sitting 10' from a 42" screen can possibly make things hard to read in chat box, but that is why you have an option to use the chat box and another option to size the chat box.
In my opinion, it is a weird response that does not hold a lot of water in my opinion. They need to figure out a way for console players to have a chat box or something that would make it easier for those that can't speak or don't want to be spamming voice channels asking everyone if they want to buy a stack of wood.
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StaticWax✭✭✭✭Let's all agree that this will be the last thread about this topic, please. ZOS has seen your outcry. They see that it's the same 37 ppl complaining over & over, post after post.
We get it. You can't figure out how to coordinate with the in game coms. You need your training wheels back. We all understand.
We just don't care.
So please, let the horse R. I. P.I wish nothing but joy for everyone.3 -
The most oddly thing that came out of the Reddit answers was their response about text chat and because we play consoles on a TV that it would be too hard to read and would not work good and that it would take up too much of the screen because they would have to make it large to read the text.
The game is 1080p on both consoles, many play the PC version on PC at 1080p and some of us, like me and my Wife play the PC version since Beta on our TV's with a wireless keyboard and mouse at 1080p sitting on our comfy couch.
So how can text be too small for TV screen to read by having a chat box, yet I and many others play the PC version at the same exact resolution and have a chat box that we have no issues able to read? Of course, I fully understand that there are various sizes of TV's out there and sitting 10' from a 65" screen versus sitting 10' from a 42" screen can possibly make things hard to read in chat box, but that is why you have an option to use the chat box and another option to size the chat box.
In my opinion, it is a weird response that does not hold a lot of water in my opinion. They need to figure out a way for console players to have a chat box or something that would make it easier for those that can't speak or don't want to be spamming voice channels asking everyone if they want to buy a stack of wood.
It's completely possible, DCUO did and does it well and that is an MMO that launched on PS3 years ago, this is suppose to be the next gen console and reddit tools are saying it can't handle it, what a giant pile of Guar feces that is.Edited by Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO on June 12, 2015 12:41AM1 -
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@NewBlacksmurfNewBlacksmurf wrote: »
Because I'm playing...it's pointless to beat a dead horse.
If a game doesn't have what you want...stop playing and do something else.
I like the game as is. Other than server bugs I'm good
(Back to gaming with friends)
Good reasoning. Wish I could
I'm stuck at work until Midnight my time almost every day. That's why I'm only able to play at late night hours. English is not my first language, Finnish is.
Please don't heap on me for grammar problems.0 -
Ojustaboo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Let's all agree that this will be the last thread about this topic, please. ZOS has seen your outcry. They see that it's the same 37 ppl complaining over & over, post after post.
We get it. You can't figure out how to coordinate with the in game coms. You need your training wheels back. We all understand.
We just don't care.
So please, let the horse R. I. P.
Absolutely not. Otherwise Zenimax will think no one's bothered anymore by the lack of chat
These threads need to appear every day until text chat is introduced.
Ps, they also see its just the same 2 or 3 players in all these threads that vocally don't want it.
Edited by Ojustaboo on June 12, 2015 12:52AM1 -
@NewBlacksmurf
Good reasoning. Wish I could I'm stuck at work until Midnight my time almost every day. That's why I'm only able to play at late night hours.
Horrible reasoning, if we took that stance with every game we play there would no new be improvements, especially in an MMO setting where the game is actually an ever evolving game. All these console players don't know about the days when DK vamps use to take on groups of 15+ players and win, if Us PC players wouldn't have been so critically and vocal about a lot of the aspects of the game you console players would not even being enjoying it now. If we simple would have said forget this game I am done playing an unbalenced bug ridden game there would not have been any ESO tamariel unlimited it would have lived and died on PC. So to all the console players out there, next time you run into a PC player ( there are some among you know, thanks to the Xfers ) tell them thank you for paying to beta test the game for a yearEdited by Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO on June 12, 2015 12:51AM0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »
Horrible reasoning, if we took that stance with every game we play there would no new be improvements, especially in an MMO setting where the game is actually an ever evolving game. All these console players don't know about the days when DK vamps use to take on groups of 15+ players and win, if Us PC players wouldn't have been so critically and vocal about a lot of the aspects of the game you console players would not even being enjoying it now. If we simple would have said forget this game I am done playing an unbalenced bug ridden game there would not have been any ESO tamariel unlimited it would have lived and died on PC. So to all the console players out there, next time you run into a PC player ( there are some among you know, thanks to the Xfers ) tell them thank you for paying to beta test the game for a year
^ This right here is why I'm getting off the forums and back to gaming...
Don't ruin it for others cause you're unhappy
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SlyFox1979✭✭I had a topic about this same thing, that this game NEEDS a text chat system badly, i can't really get into proximity chat that we have now. on top of that i'm not into voice chatting with random people unless its in guild or in a dungeon party.
the last game i played that had voice chat only was "Destiny" and that was one of the things that ruined the game for me.
and having voice chat only will probably ruin this game too for me.
maybe someone should do a poll about this with just a yes/no poll on who wants text chat1 -
DeanWinchester88✭✭✭Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »
So what about the deaf player who only plays console games ? What about people with social anxiety who are console exclusive ? You have absolutely no valid reason as to why both forms of communication can not exist on both platforms. DCUO is a console MMO that launched with text and voice chat and it worked perfectly fine. Just in case your new to the game industry, especially MMOS you would know that what is often advertised for a game changes drastically over the life the game. One more thing, they never said the game would never have text chat, just that it was launching with out it. Also you post on here like you speak for ALL console players and that you ALL don't want text chat well guess what that is YOUR opinion and nothing more. Before you give me some anecdotal evidence of the legions of console players that you know said they don't want text chat I know another legion of console players saying they do want it xD. Good luck chatting with your trade guilds who atleast here on the PC side have 500 active players all chatting at once. Someone said it here already, to have an effective MMO both text and voice chat are required, any MMO player who has a decent amount of /played will tell you the same.
Awaiting the response from @defcon.dealer1b14_ESO because he is the only one here saying no to the optional text chat. Although I am pretty it is a troll and has been fed way to much already
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Caesar Tantalia✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
Because I'm playing...it's pointless to beat a dead horse.
If a game doesn't have what you want...stop playing and do something else.
I like the game as is. Other than server bugs I'm good
(Back to gaming with friends)
I've raised this issue before - so feel free to comment - what about deaf people and people with hearing loss?
This together with the subtitle failure on the console make this a legal and social issue. You keep saying - it's not something you want. Agree but it is definitely something that some people NEED.
Edited - spellingEdited by Caesar Tantalia on June 12, 2015 2:24AM1 -
StaticWax✭✭✭✭Ps, they also see its just the same 2 or 3 players in all these threads that vocally don't want it.
And don't forget about the tens of thousands who are happily playing & could care less about your disgruntled vocal minority's quest for Zen to waste resources on something that no one gives 2 farts about.
Deal with it. The masses have spoken & they have said, "meh...".
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xMegaJohnSoul ShrivenI would love a text chat box. Especially if Microsoft and Sony make Chatpad's for these consoles like they did with the last Gen consoles. I can't believe that these still aren't available yet. I always used both my 360, and PS3 with the Chatpad attached. The Smartglass functions wouldn't really be good, and neither would Controller text entry, since both would use an on screen display that would block 75% of the screen.0 -
DeanWinchester88✭✭✭I would love a text chat box. Especially if Microsoft and Sony make Chatpad's for these consoles like they did with the last Gen consoles. I can't believe that these still aren't available yet. I always used both my 360, and PS3 with the Chatpad attached. The Smartglass functions wouldn't really be good, and neither would Controller text entry, since both would use an on screen display that would block 75% of the screen.
I have good news for you.
http://www.amazon.com/Chatpad-Keyboard-Xbox-One-Controller/dp/B00S9910O4/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1434081845&sr=1-3&keywords=xbox+one+chat+pad
It works splendidly.Xbox One/PC, North America.
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Caesar Tantalia wrote: »
I've raised this issue before - so feel free to comment - what about deaf people and people with hearing loss?
This together with the subtitle failure on the console make this a legal and social issue. You keep saying - it's not something you want. Agree but it is definitely something that some people NEED.
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Those players would play without talking.
Or
Play other games. It's up to them but as my family members who have handicaps play games, most play PC as it natively tends to support typing but more importantly, handicap peripheralsEdited by NewBlacksmurf on June 12, 2015 4:19AM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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JoshAubreySoul ShrivenI believe for the success of this game on consoles it will need a text chat box system. Not only will it allow communication through various forms much much easier and easier to understand then the garbled cluster of music and coughing and screaming that you can currently hear in proximity voice chat it will also allow the forming of community and relationships for a hardcore player base to develop on consoles to continue to support the game.
I really do love how everything elso has been implemented for console but unfortunately I've had thoughts of switching back to PC just for the fact that I can actually communicate.. the only thing that makes me want to stay on console right now is that I have more friends on console.
As the newness of the game wears off though I think without a proper way to communicate that the player base will continue to dwindle and long-lasting guilds and friendships will not be formed.
The arguments that console users will not use the keyboard is completely invalid, back in the days of PlayStation 2 with EverQuest people were using it. It boasted a community that lasted on the verge of ten years and keyboards did not ship with that console either, and online gaming was not as popular then either. If chat is added then everyone will slowly start getting on board and realizing the superior communication system that it is outside of groups.Edited by JoshAubrey on June 12, 2015 4:49AM1
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