Console text chat discussion

nastuug

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

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Mattgatt wrote: »

Plenty want this feature added. I don't see how it would do any harm or hinder anti-text chat people's gameplay. Just make it so it can be disabled by people who do not want it.

And plenty do not want it added.

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Zazaaji wrote: »

Really want it as well. I just can't enjoy the game as much as I can without it.
As a sign of how much it effects me, I am not spending any real life money on ESO Plus, Crowns, or any other "extra" thing unless text chat gets added, period. If it gets added though, the first thing I'll do is buy $100 worth of crowns to show my support that ZoS is listening to customers.

Well that's a persons choice, I however am spending money again and subd.

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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

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Varicite wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Cherry wrote: »

You're missing the point here. Your friend would be missing out on some, but they would not be blocked from all communication the way people unable to use voice chat are here. There is no reason people should not be able to choose what suits them and their situation best.

Why should my friend miss out on any coms? No matter if vc is not blocked or not ....on the chosen console version?

I agree with there is no reason people should not choose the game and platform that best suits their situation/s. My friend, it is the console version....ur 'friends', Pc version. Both have their needs met.

Or everyone could have their needs met, just the way that it will be on the PC soon enough.

I'm sorry, but your blind friend not wanting to miss out on "any" communications is simply not a compelling enough reason to shut out the entire console playerbase from an optional text chat box, especially when they are already missing out on coms right now just by being limited to zone / guild / area / etc.

And more especially since the current workarounds involve going outside of the game to log into websites and forums just to sell your things outside of guild, recruit people to your guild, band together to take keeps and defend resources, etc.

How does your blind friend handle these things right now, I wonder?

With a statement like that, then I'd say there's no reason the hearing impaired etc should get text in a console version since it's already available on pc.

I'm not sure and cannot answer for ppl who choose to stay out of area chat or trading guilds/guilds in general or groups to make trading etc simple..... I guess going on the fourms is wat they choose to do if they ignore those available options.

My friend chats away with folks in and out of groups. I think I pretty much covered wat he does in game..and even if not, I'd hope the obvious would shed light on ur confusion on wat he does about the 'walkaround yada yada'....but just to recap...he logs, we hook up, he chats, we chat, ppl chat he enjoys his time.

The ps4 ppl we've hooked up with at times have been great. The situation is explained about him just being in the group for chat and not one person has complained. He's had a great time so far. We also roll other console games and have the same fun.

Your friend is only playing to talk to other people, then? He's not actually... playing the game at all?

Why can he not do that if people who prefer to use chat boxes to sell things and recruit for guilds and activities are typing to each other?

He can still log in, hook up w/ you, chat w/ people about whatever as much as he wants to. Text chat doesn't hinder this in any way.

You keep dodging this question, and I'm curious why.

PS) All those people you claim to be speaking for... they can speak for themselves. They don't need you to be their spokesperson, and most probably don't even believe that they exist.

So let's just drop the act and speak for ourselves. Those who agree w/ you can chime in and say that they agree, or even just click the Agree button. It's really not that difficult.

Stop feeding him, @Varicite. He tried pulling this crap yesterday.

I'm sorry, what "crap" exactly did I/am I pulling?

We're not going there. Nt, though.

Ok, that's a answer I guess. Wat does "Nt" stand for?

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO

Zusia211 wrote: »

Stop even trying to convice defcon or even give any reasons for it since the refuting point is just going to be:
1. Go get a PC
2. I cannot do voice on PC so you shouldn't be able to do text on console
3. Cause i don't want it
Some want it some don't. There are positives and negatives for getting it.

If that is supposed to be a reference to what my replies are, it's not entirely correct.

Continue to roll the PC version if one wants text.
Buy the pc version if one wants text.
I've rolled ESO, EQ2 and Rift on pc...and used text and vent...so I can use vc on pc just fine.
I've more than explained why I and others don't want it added to the console version.

Just as the ppl who say yay are not gonna change their votes/minds, myself and the other nay group aren't changing theirs.

Mic up, group up, guild up and hav sum fun ppl

Varicite

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

The 'us' I'm speaking for have posted in the similar threads that got combined to this small one. again, the poll speaks volumes that it's not just me and my opinion/want.

Maybe the others who have voted nay and have posted are tired and or over getting flamed by the yay sayers, so they have already made their point and feel no need to jump on ur merry-go-round. Or, they could be in game micd up, groupd up/guild'd up while u try to nit pick my reasons, and I keep my stance

U make a lot of assumptions about me and my views....lol, I really don't feel the need to defend my stance on how I want this game and future Elder Scrolls games to succeed. U have my permission to speculate all you wish and u may also not accept any or all of my replies/posts/opinions concerning this game....I don't mind bro

My comments have been 100% based on what you've posted here. No assumptions have been made whatsoever.

If you dislike the way that you've been portrayed, then you may want to take another look at the manner in which you've represented yourself.

I'm not going to respond to posts I didn't see or read, that would be silly. Instead, I've responded to what has been written here.

Those who care will share their thoughts on the matter, for or against the addition of an optional text chat to go alongside the already in-game VC setup. And if they have more compelling reasons than those you've displayed, I will gladly be accepting to those reasons.

However, nothing I've read thus far would be inconvenienced in the least bit by its addition, and many things would be enhanced by it.

/shrug

Zusia211

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

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Zusia211 wrote: »

Stop even trying to convice defcon or even give any reasons for it since the refuting point is just going to be:
1. Go get a PC
2. I cannot do voice on PC so you shouldn't be able to do text on console
3. Cause i don't want it
Some want it some don't. There are positives and negatives for getting it.

If that is supposed to be a reference to what my replies are, it's not entirely correct.

Continue to roll the PC version if one wants text.
Buy the pc version if one wants text.
I've rolled ESO, EQ2 and Rift on pc...and used text and vent...so I can use vc on pc just fine.
I've more than explained why I and others don't want it added to the console version.

Just as the ppl who say yay are not gonna change their votes/minds, myself and the other nay group aren't changing theirs.

Mic up, group up, guild up and hav sum fun ppl

Not a bro....
But that was basically correct since you didn't add anything else. How bout just saying why you think consoles shouldn't have text chat, will it not enable you to play the game as well as only voice?

nastuug

Zusia211 wrote: »

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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Zusia211 wrote: »

Stop even trying to convice defcon or even give any reasons for it since the refuting point is just going to be:
1. Go get a PC
2. I cannot do voice on PC so you shouldn't be able to do text on console
3. Cause i don't want it
Some want it some don't. There are positives and negatives for getting it.

If that is supposed to be a reference to what my replies are, it's not entirely correct.

Continue to roll the PC version if one wants text.
Buy the pc version if one wants text.
I've rolled ESO, EQ2 and Rift on pc...and used text and vent...so I can use vc on pc just fine.
I've more than explained why I and others don't want it added to the console version.

Just as the ppl who say yay are not gonna change their votes/minds, myself and the other nay group aren't changing theirs.

Mic up, group up, guild up and hav sum fun ppl

Not a bro....
But that was basically correct since you didn't add anything else. How bout just saying why you think consoles shouldn't have text chat, will it not enable you to play the game as well as only voice?

He's baiting. I would just recommend dropping the conversation with him.

Varicite

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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Zusia211 wrote: »

Stop even trying to convice defcon or even give any reasons for it since the refuting point is just going to be:
1. Go get a PC
2. I cannot do voice on PC so you shouldn't be able to do text on console
3. Cause i don't want it
Some want it some don't. There are positives and negatives for getting it.

If that is supposed to be a reference to what my replies are, it's not entirely correct.

Continue to roll the PC version if one wants text.
Buy the pc version if one wants text.
I've rolled ESO, EQ2 and Rift on pc...and used text and vent...so I can use vc on pc just fine.
I've more than explained why I and others don't want it added to the console version.

Just as the ppl who say yay are not gonna change their votes/minds, myself and the other nay group aren't changing theirs.

Mic up, group up, guild up and hav sum fun ppl

Not a bro....
But that was basically correct since you didn't add anything else. How bout just saying why you think consoles shouldn't have text chat, will it not enable you to play the game as well as only voice?

I've been asking him this question for 2 pages, but he doesn't really seem to want to answer it, so it's kinda hard to actually respond or have any kind of meaningful discussion about the matter w/ him.

And these masses of players he keeps claiming to represent haven't really chimed in yet either.

Perhaps given some time, now that they are closing all of the other threads about text chat on consoles, others will post about why they feel that text chat shouldn't be added or how it will hinder their in-game experience moreso than not having text chat hinders using the in-game systems that were designed around having text enabled.

Mirra_Halfelven

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

No it doesn't.


Plenty of ppl are always looking for ppl to game with. It's diff than PC

AND

This exists too https://www.eso-lfg.com/en/

The simple fact that people already feel the need to create a 3rd party off-site website for grouping ... just proves how much text chat is needed to be added back into the console versions of ESO

Dahkoht

I'm guessing they don't want the poll showing just how overwhelmingly it numbers of those who want the text chat , or want the option , vs the ones who don't want to allow anyone to have it.

The argument from those who can't type is that they would be expected to have a keyboard.

If voice chat is so wonderful , only a few of us will be using the keyboard.

Or could it be that zone wide text chat , guild text chat , random stranger text chat would me more convenient for many thus they would choose to use it.

It's cute how scared the voice only folks are of even allowing the option for others to use text chat.

DeanWinchester88

Many people just don't feel comfortable chatting with strangers on the mic. It's kinda weird and awkward, but give them text chat, and they will be much more open. I'm one of those people, it takes a while for me to get comfortable talking around strangers. Give me text chat, and I'm happy. I will gladly call for help, answer people's questions if I can, and just join in random conversations with people. It's fun, convenient, and way less intrusive than hearing people breathe like dogs or having to hear people's crap music.

Please Zenimax, give us text chat.

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO

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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Mattgatt wrote: »

Plenty want this feature added. I don't see how it would do any harm or hinder anti-text chat people's gameplay. Just make it so it can be disabled by people who do not want it.

And plenty do not want it added.

Zazaaji wrote: »

Really want it as well. I just can't enjoy the game as much as I can without it.
As a sign of how much it effects me, I am not spending any real life money on ESO Plus, Crowns, or any other "extra" thing unless text chat gets added, period. If it gets added though, the first thing I'll do is buy $100 worth of crowns to show my support that ZoS is listening to customers.

Well that's a persons choice, I however am spending money again and subd.

nastuug wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Cherry wrote: »

You're missing the point here. Your friend would be missing out on some, but they would not be blocked from all communication the way people unable to use voice chat are here. There is no reason people should not be able to choose what suits them and their situation best.

Why should my friend miss out on any coms? No matter if vc is not blocked or not ....on the chosen console version?

I agree with there is no reason people should not choose the game and platform that best suits their situation/s. My friend, it is the console version....ur 'friends', Pc version. Both have their needs met.

Or everyone could have their needs met, just the way that it will be on the PC soon enough.

I'm sorry, but your blind friend not wanting to miss out on "any" communications is simply not a compelling enough reason to shut out the entire console playerbase from an optional text chat box, especially when they are already missing out on coms right now just by being limited to zone / guild / area / etc.

And more especially since the current workarounds involve going outside of the game to log into websites and forums just to sell your things outside of guild, recruit people to your guild, band together to take keeps and defend resources, etc.

How does your blind friend handle these things right now, I wonder?

With a statement like that, then I'd say there's no reason the hearing impaired etc should get text in a console version since it's already available on pc.

I'm not sure and cannot answer for ppl who choose to stay out of area chat or trading guilds/guilds in general or groups to make trading etc simple..... I guess going on the fourms is wat they choose to do if they ignore those available options.

My friend chats away with folks in and out of groups. I think I pretty much covered wat he does in game..and even if not, I'd hope the obvious would shed light on ur confusion on wat he does about the 'walkaround yada yada'....but just to recap...he logs, we hook up, he chats, we chat, ppl chat he enjoys his time.

The ps4 ppl we've hooked up with at times have been great. The situation is explained about him just being in the group for chat and not one person has complained. He's had a great time so far. We also roll other console games and have the same fun.

Your friend is only playing to talk to other people, then? He's not actually... playing the game at all?

Why can he not do that if people who prefer to use chat boxes to sell things and recruit for guilds and activities are typing to each other?

He can still log in, hook up w/ you, chat w/ people about whatever as much as he wants to. Text chat doesn't hinder this in any way.

You keep dodging this question, and I'm curious why.

PS) All those people you claim to be speaking for... they can speak for themselves. They don't need you to be their spokesperson, and most probably don't even believe that they exist.

So let's just drop the act and speak for ourselves. Those who agree w/ you can chime in and say that they agree, or even just click the Agree button. It's really not that difficult.

Stop feeding him, @Varicite. He tried pulling this crap yesterday.

I'm sorry, what "crap" exactly did I/am I pulling?

We're not going there. Nt, though.

Ok, that's a answer I guess. Wat does "Nt" stand for?

Nice try wat? Still lost man. u said I started the same "crap" yesterday..I just wanted to know wat "crap" u were speaking about.

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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

The 'us' I'm speaking for have posted in the similar threads that got combined to this small one. again, the poll speaks volumes that it's not just me and my opinion/want.

Maybe the others who have voted nay and have posted are tired and or over getting flamed by the yay sayers, so they have already made their point and feel no need to jump on ur merry-go-round. Or, they could be in game micd up, groupd up/guild'd up while u try to nit pick my reasons, and I keep my stance

U make a lot of assumptions about me and my views....lol, I really don't feel the need to defend my stance on how I want this game and future Elder Scrolls games to succeed. U have my permission to speculate all you wish and u may also not accept any or all of my replies/posts/opinions concerning this game....I don't mind bro

My comments have been 100% based on what you've posted here. No assumptions have been made whatsoever.

If you dislike the way that you've been portrayed, then you may want to take another look at the manner in which you've represented yourself.

I'm not going to respond to posts I didn't see or read, that would be silly. Instead, I've responded to what has been written here.

Those who care will share their thoughts on the matter, for or against the addition of an optional text chat to go alongside the already in-game VC setup. And if they have more compelling reasons than those you've displayed, I will gladly be accepting to those reasons.

However, nothing I've read thus far would be inconvenienced in the least bit by its addition, and many things would be enhanced by it.

/shrug

My comments have also been based on what has been posted on the fourms. U assumed I do not care about the future of the company...there are a few more, but it's all in black n white so I'll give my fingers a rest from all this typing lol and let u re-read ur posts to me.

I dislike how I'm portrayed? Thought u didn't assume? I don't recall stating I dislike how I'm portrayed.

U have my permission to reply to any posts u want man...in this combined thread or others...that's not "silly".

U can also accept the several other ppl's already established nay votes and reasons, or not. It's ok either way.

Ur opinion is that nothing would be "inconvenienced" by adding text...the nay sayrs have a different opinion. That's ok to.

nastuug

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nastuug wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Mattgatt wrote: »

Plenty want this feature added. I don't see how it would do any harm or hinder anti-text chat people's gameplay. Just make it so it can be disabled by people who do not want it.

And plenty do not want it added.

Zazaaji wrote: »

Really want it as well. I just can't enjoy the game as much as I can without it.
As a sign of how much it effects me, I am not spending any real life money on ESO Plus, Crowns, or any other "extra" thing unless text chat gets added, period. If it gets added though, the first thing I'll do is buy $100 worth of crowns to show my support that ZoS is listening to customers.

Well that's a persons choice, I however am spending money again and subd.

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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Cherry wrote: »

You're missing the point here. Your friend would be missing out on some, but they would not be blocked from all communication the way people unable to use voice chat are here. There is no reason people should not be able to choose what suits them and their situation best.

Why should my friend miss out on any coms? No matter if vc is not blocked or not ....on the chosen console version?

I agree with there is no reason people should not choose the game and platform that best suits their situation/s. My friend, it is the console version....ur 'friends', Pc version. Both have their needs met.

Or everyone could have their needs met, just the way that it will be on the PC soon enough.

I'm sorry, but your blind friend not wanting to miss out on "any" communications is simply not a compelling enough reason to shut out the entire console playerbase from an optional text chat box, especially when they are already missing out on coms right now just by being limited to zone / guild / area / etc.

And more especially since the current workarounds involve going outside of the game to log into websites and forums just to sell your things outside of guild, recruit people to your guild, band together to take keeps and defend resources, etc.

How does your blind friend handle these things right now, I wonder?

With a statement like that, then I'd say there's no reason the hearing impaired etc should get text in a console version since it's already available on pc.

I'm not sure and cannot answer for ppl who choose to stay out of area chat or trading guilds/guilds in general or groups to make trading etc simple..... I guess going on the fourms is wat they choose to do if they ignore those available options.

My friend chats away with folks in and out of groups. I think I pretty much covered wat he does in game..and even if not, I'd hope the obvious would shed light on ur confusion on wat he does about the 'walkaround yada yada'....but just to recap...he logs, we hook up, he chats, we chat, ppl chat he enjoys his time.

The ps4 ppl we've hooked up with at times have been great. The situation is explained about him just being in the group for chat and not one person has complained. He's had a great time so far. We also roll other console games and have the same fun.

Your friend is only playing to talk to other people, then? He's not actually... playing the game at all?

Why can he not do that if people who prefer to use chat boxes to sell things and recruit for guilds and activities are typing to each other?

He can still log in, hook up w/ you, chat w/ people about whatever as much as he wants to. Text chat doesn't hinder this in any way.

You keep dodging this question, and I'm curious why.

PS) All those people you claim to be speaking for... they can speak for themselves. They don't need you to be their spokesperson, and most probably don't even believe that they exist.

So let's just drop the act and speak for ourselves. Those who agree w/ you can chime in and say that they agree, or even just click the Agree button. It's really not that difficult.

Stop feeding him, @Varicite. He tried pulling this crap yesterday.

I'm sorry, what "crap" exactly did I/am I pulling?

We're not going there. Nt, though.

Ok, that's a answer I guess. Wat does "Nt" stand for?

Nice try wat? Still lost man. u said I started the same "crap" yesterday..I just wanted to know wat "crap" u were speaking about.

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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

The 'us' I'm speaking for have posted in the similar threads that got combined to this small one. again, the poll speaks volumes that it's not just me and my opinion/want.

Maybe the others who have voted nay and have posted are tired and or over getting flamed by the yay sayers, so they have already made their point and feel no need to jump on ur merry-go-round. Or, they could be in game micd up, groupd up/guild'd up while u try to nit pick my reasons, and I keep my stance

U make a lot of assumptions about me and my views....lol, I really don't feel the need to defend my stance on how I want this game and future Elder Scrolls games to succeed. U have my permission to speculate all you wish and u may also not accept any or all of my replies/posts/opinions concerning this game....I don't mind bro

My comments have been 100% based on what you've posted here. No assumptions have been made whatsoever.

If you dislike the way that you've been portrayed, then you may want to take another look at the manner in which you've represented yourself.

I'm not going to respond to posts I didn't see or read, that would be silly. Instead, I've responded to what has been written here.

Those who care will share their thoughts on the matter, for or against the addition of an optional text chat to go alongside the already in-game VC setup. And if they have more compelling reasons than those you've displayed, I will gladly be accepting to those reasons.

However, nothing I've read thus far would be inconvenienced in the least bit by its addition, and many things would be enhanced by it.

/shrug

My comments have also been based on what has been posted on the fourms. U assumed I do not care about the future of the company...there are a few more, but it's all in black n white so I'll give my fingers a rest from all this typing lol and let u re-read ur posts to me.

I dislike how I'm portrayed? Thought u didn't assume? I don't recall stating I dislike how I'm portrayed.

U have my permission to reply to any posts u want man...in this combined thread or others...that's not "silly".

U can also accept the several other ppl's already established nay votes and reasons, or not. It's ok either way.

Ur opinion is that nothing would be "inconvenienced" by adding text...the nay sayrs have a different opinion. That's ok to.

I'm done talking to you. Your flaming, baiting, and just being a general ---.

Mattgatt

Deanwinchester88.. I'm the same way. I'd rather only use voice for playing with friends or guild dungeon runs.. Anything else trading, world bosses, helping out in the world i just want to stick with text.

Varicite

DeanWinchester88 wrote: »

Many people just don't feel comfortable chatting with strangers on the mic. It's kinda weird and awkward, but give them text chat, and they will be much more open. I'm one of those people, it takes a while for me to get comfortable talking around strangers. Give me text chat, and I'm happy. I will gladly call for help, answer people's questions if I can, and just join in random conversations with people. It's fun, convenient, and way less intrusive than hearing people breathe like dogs or having to hear people's crap music.

Please Zenimax, give us text chat.

My wife is actually one of those people too.

She suffers from extreme social anxiety (and I probably shouldn't even be writing this, I'll be in the doghouse if she happens to read it), but MMOs and other online activities are one of the ways that she can enjoy being social on her own terms.

In the console version, she's terrified of speaking to strangers or letting others hear her voice and is immediately put off by any experiences that force her to do so. Even in other online games where voice communication is crucial, she makes me do all of the talking and we just tell people that she doesn't have a mic (she does, she just isn't going to use it).

It's really made the experience a lot less enjoyable for her, but I also realize that she is a special case, so I'm reluctant to even use this type of gamer as part of this debate.

The simple truth is that text is great for a lot of things that are very clumsy to do in-game at the moment, such as selling wares, finding people in zone to do content w/, etc. Voice Chat excels when you are actually in a group trying to do said content or need to adjust to mechanics or changing situations on the fly.

I feel that they are both an integral part to the enjoyment of the game and the experience itself would be all the better for adding an optional method of communicating via text for those situations that text chat is simply better at.

The quickchat wheel is nice, but leaves much to be desired when trying to recruit members or sell items, etc. And having to leave the game is simply not an acceptable method when trying to utilize the in-game systems that exist.

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO

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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Zusia211 wrote: »

Stop even trying to convice defcon or even give any reasons for it since the refuting point is just going to be:
1. Go get a PC
2. I cannot do voice on PC so you shouldn't be able to do text on console
3. Cause i don't want it
Some want it some don't. There are positives and negatives for getting it.

If that is supposed to be a reference to what my replies are, it's not entirely correct.

Continue to roll the PC version if one wants text.
Buy the pc version if one wants text.
I've rolled ESO, EQ2 and Rift on pc...and used text and vent...so I can use vc on pc just fine.
I've more than explained why I and others don't want it added to the console version.

Just as the ppl who say yay are not gonna change their votes/minds, myself and the other nay group aren't changing theirs.

Mic up, group up, guild up and hav sum fun ppl

Not a bro....
But that was basically correct since you didn't add anything else. How bout just saying why you think consoles shouldn't have text chat, will it not enable you to play the game as well as only voice?

Huh, not a bro?? I don't get it. I've said my reasons several times, nothing personal, just too tired to type it all out again

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Zusia211 wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Zusia211 wrote: »

Stop even trying to convice defcon or even give any reasons for it since the refuting point is just going to be:
1. Go get a PC
2. I cannot do voice on PC so you shouldn't be able to do text on console
3. Cause i don't want it
Some want it some don't. There are positives and negatives for getting it.

If that is supposed to be a reference to what my replies are, it's not entirely correct.

Continue to roll the PC version if one wants text.
Buy the pc version if one wants text.
I've rolled ESO, EQ2 and Rift on pc...and used text and vent...so I can use vc on pc just fine.
I've more than explained why I and others don't want it added to the console version.

Just as the ppl who say yay are not gonna change their votes/minds, myself and the other nay group aren't changing theirs.

Mic up, group up, guild up and hav sum fun ppl

Not a bro....
But that was basically correct since you didn't add anything else. How bout just saying why you think consoles shouldn't have text chat, will it not enable you to play the game as well as only voice?

He's baiting. I would just recommend dropping the conversation with him.

Who's baiting? Me for being accused of something and wanting to know what lol? wow...... yea man, nice one..

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Zusia211 wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Zusia211 wrote: »

Stop even trying to convice defcon or even give any reasons for it since the refuting point is just going to be:
1. Go get a PC
2. I cannot do voice on PC so you shouldn't be able to do text on console
3. Cause i don't want it
Some want it some don't. There are positives and negatives for getting it.

If that is supposed to be a reference to what my replies are, it's not entirely correct.

Continue to roll the PC version if one wants text.
Buy the pc version if one wants text.
I've rolled ESO, EQ2 and Rift on pc...and used text and vent...so I can use vc on pc just fine.
I've more than explained why I and others don't want it added to the console version.

Just as the ppl who say yay are not gonna change their votes/minds, myself and the other nay group aren't changing theirs.

Mic up, group up, guild up and hav sum fun ppl

Not a bro....
But that was basically correct since you didn't add anything else. How bout just saying why you think consoles shouldn't have text chat, will it not enable you to play the game as well as only voice?

I've been asking him this question for 2 pages, but he doesn't really seem to want to answer it, so it's kinda hard to actually respond or have any kind of meaningful discussion about the matter w/ him.

And these masses of players he keeps claiming to represent haven't really chimed in yet either.

Perhaps given some time, now that they are closing all of the other threads about text chat on consoles, others will post about why they feel that text chat shouldn't be added or how it will hinder their in-game experience moreso than not having text chat hinders using the in-game systems that were designed around having text enabled.

He keeps fishing to get me to change my stance..lol not gonna happen

I got it, how about another poll? lol! That would show ya..wat u already know....lots more folks than me do not want text chat on the console. I'm sorry that's not wat u want to hear, but I didn't make them vote and say no bro

Dahkoht wrote: »

I'm guessing they don't want the poll showing just how overwhelmingly it numbers of those who want the text chat , or want the option , vs the ones who don't want to allow anyone to have it.

The argument from those who can't type is that they would be expected to have a keyboard.

If voice chat is so wonderful , only a few of us will be using the keyboard.

Or could it be that zone wide text chat , guild text chat , random stranger text chat would me more convenient for many thus they would choose to use it.

It's cute how scared the voice only folks are of even allowing the option for others to use text chat.

I'm not scared nor would I assume anyone else would be either, of a who wants/doesn't want text chat poll...I've voted in all so far lol.

I'm guessing when u say "its cute how scared the voice only folks are" is supposed to be a put down? No offense taken...still holding my ground bro

B1MBLE

Was really looking forward to playing this on my PS4 and on jumping into Cyrodiil - my favourite aspect of the game on my PC - I was utterly flabbergasted that no zone chat had been implemented and that the LFG and typed zone updates were just not available! Haven't bothered to log in since and won't until such time as this is implemented... Shocking design decision.

danno8

Varicite wrote: »

In the console version, she's terrified of speaking to strangers or letting others hear her voice and is immediately put off by any experiences that force her to do so. Even in other online games where voice communication is crucial, she makes me do all of the talking and we just tell people that she doesn't have a mic (she does, she just isn't going to use it).

I don't blame her. If I was a girl the last people I would reveal that to is the general crowd in the lowbie cities of an mmo. The garbage girls have to put up with from anonymous adolescent boys (in particular) makes me want to put my fist through the offenders mouths all the time.

I would only be comfortable on voice chat with guild mates who are more likely to behave themselves.

Ryanua58

Is there a way to mute individual players on ps4? The problem in having is the same

tordr86b16_ESO

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO

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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Mattgatt wrote: »

Plenty want this feature added. I don't see how it would do any harm or hinder anti-text chat people's gameplay. Just make it so it can be disabled by people who do not want it.

And plenty do not want it added.

Zazaaji wrote: »

Really want it as well. I just can't enjoy the game as much as I can without it.
As a sign of how much it effects me, I am not spending any real life money on ESO Plus, Crowns, or any other "extra" thing unless text chat gets added, period. If it gets added though, the first thing I'll do is buy $100 worth of crowns to show my support that ZoS is listening to customers.

Well that's a persons choice, I however am spending money again and subd.

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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Cherry wrote: »

You're missing the point here. Your friend would be missing out on some, but they would not be blocked from all communication the way people unable to use voice chat are here. There is no reason people should not be able to choose what suits them and their situation best.

Why should my friend miss out on any coms? No matter if vc is not blocked or not ....on the chosen console version?

I agree with there is no reason people should not choose the game and platform that best suits their situation/s. My friend, it is the console version....ur 'friends', Pc version. Both have their needs met.

Or everyone could have their needs met, just the way that it will be on the PC soon enough.

I'm sorry, but your blind friend not wanting to miss out on "any" communications is simply not a compelling enough reason to shut out the entire console playerbase from an optional text chat box, especially when they are already missing out on coms right now just by being limited to zone / guild / area / etc.

And more especially since the current workarounds involve going outside of the game to log into websites and forums just to sell your things outside of guild, recruit people to your guild, band together to take keeps and defend resources, etc.

How does your blind friend handle these things right now, I wonder?

With a statement like that, then I'd say there's no reason the hearing impaired etc should get text in a console version since it's already available on pc.

I'm not sure and cannot answer for ppl who choose to stay out of area chat or trading guilds/guilds in general or groups to make trading etc simple..... I guess going on the fourms is wat they choose to do if they ignore those available options.

My friend chats away with folks in and out of groups. I think I pretty much covered wat he does in game..and even if not, I'd hope the obvious would shed light on ur confusion on wat he does about the 'walkaround yada yada'....but just to recap...he logs, we hook up, he chats, we chat, ppl chat he enjoys his time.

The ps4 ppl we've hooked up with at times have been great. The situation is explained about him just being in the group for chat and not one person has complained. He's had a great time so far. We also roll other console games and have the same fun.

Your friend is only playing to talk to other people, then? He's not actually... playing the game at all?

Why can he not do that if people who prefer to use chat boxes to sell things and recruit for guilds and activities are typing to each other?

He can still log in, hook up w/ you, chat w/ people about whatever as much as he wants to. Text chat doesn't hinder this in any way.

You keep dodging this question, and I'm curious why.

PS) All those people you claim to be speaking for... they can speak for themselves. They don't need you to be their spokesperson, and most probably don't even believe that they exist.

So let's just drop the act and speak for ourselves. Those who agree w/ you can chime in and say that they agree, or even just click the Agree button. It's really not that difficult.

Stop feeding him, @Varicite. He tried pulling this crap yesterday.

I'm sorry, what "crap" exactly did I/am I pulling?

We're not going there. Nt, though.

Ok, that's a answer I guess. Wat does "Nt" stand for?

Nice try wat? Still lost man. u said I started the same "crap" yesterday..I just wanted to know wat "crap" u were speaking about.

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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

The 'us' I'm speaking for have posted in the similar threads that got combined to this small one. again, the poll speaks volumes that it's not just me and my opinion/want.

Maybe the others who have voted nay and have posted are tired and or over getting flamed by the yay sayers, so they have already made their point and feel no need to jump on ur merry-go-round. Or, they could be in game micd up, groupd up/guild'd up while u try to nit pick my reasons, and I keep my stance

U make a lot of assumptions about me and my views....lol, I really don't feel the need to defend my stance on how I want this game and future Elder Scrolls games to succeed. U have my permission to speculate all you wish and u may also not accept any or all of my replies/posts/opinions concerning this game....I don't mind bro

My comments have been 100% based on what you've posted here. No assumptions have been made whatsoever.

If you dislike the way that you've been portrayed, then you may want to take another look at the manner in which you've represented yourself.

I'm not going to respond to posts I didn't see or read, that would be silly. Instead, I've responded to what has been written here.

Those who care will share their thoughts on the matter, for or against the addition of an optional text chat to go alongside the already in-game VC setup. And if they have more compelling reasons than those you've displayed, I will gladly be accepting to those reasons.

However, nothing I've read thus far would be inconvenienced in the least bit by its addition, and many things would be enhanced by it.

/shrug

My comments have also been based on what has been posted on the fourms. U assumed I do not care about the future of the company...there are a few more, but it's all in black n white so I'll give my fingers a rest from all this typing lol and let u re-read ur posts to me.

I dislike how I'm portrayed? Thought u didn't assume? I don't recall stating I dislike how I'm portrayed.

U have my permission to reply to any posts u want man...in this combined thread or others...that's not "silly".

U can also accept the several other ppl's already established nay votes and reasons, or not. It's ok either way.

Ur opinion is that nothing would be "inconvenienced" by adding text...the nay sayrs have a different opinion. That's ok to.

I'm done talking to you. Your flaming, baiting, and just being a general ---.

Oh, I see..that's the words ur using to get this modded eh instead of accusing me of 'starting crap' explaining how? Ok. just accuse ppl of stuff and not back it up or explain

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DeanWinchester88 wrote: »

Many people just don't feel comfortable chatting with strangers on the mic. It's kinda weird and awkward, but give them text chat, and they will be much more open. I'm one of those people, it takes a while for me to get comfortable talking around strangers. Give me text chat, and I'm happy. I will gladly call for help, answer people's questions if I can, and just join in random conversations with people. It's fun, convenient, and way less intrusive than hearing people breathe like dogs or having to hear people's crap music.

Please Zenimax, give us text chat.

My wife is actually one of those people too.

She suffers from extreme social anxiety (and I probably shouldn't even be writing this, I'll be in the doghouse if she happens to read it), but MMOs and other online activities are one of the ways that she can enjoy being social on her own terms.

In the console version, she's terrified of speaking to strangers or letting others hear her voice and is immediately put off by any experiences that force her to do so. Even in other online games where voice communication is crucial, she makes me do all of the talking and we just tell people that she doesn't have a mic (she does, she just isn't going to use it).

It's really made the experience a lot less enjoyable for her, but I also realize that she is a special case, so I'm reluctant to even use this type of gamer as part of this debate.

The simple truth is that text is great for a lot of things that are very clumsy to do in-game at the moment, such as selling wares, finding people in zone to do content w/, etc. Voice Chat excels when you are actually in a group trying to do said content or need to adjust to mechanics or changing situations on the fly.

I feel that they are both an integral part to the enjoyment of the game and the experience itself would be all the better for adding an optional method of communicating via text for those situations that text chat is simply better at.

The quickchat wheel is nice, but leaves much to be desired when trying to recruit members or sell items, etc. And having to leave the game is simply not an acceptable method when trying to utilize the in-game systems that exist.

I'm very sorry about ur wife, my sister is bipolar and has ptsd So I feel for her bud. For them, it's a nightmare when they have 'episodes'.

I didn't make the game, just giving my opinion and mine is still and always has been no text. Some folks take that personal and that is on them Hopefully u guys can play the pc version together and text chat and have fun

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO

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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Zusia211 wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Zusia211 wrote: »

Stop even trying to convice defcon or even give any reasons for it since the refuting point is just going to be:
1. Go get a PC
2. I cannot do voice on PC so you shouldn't be able to do text on console
3. Cause i don't want it
Some want it some don't. There are positives and negatives for getting it.

If that is supposed to be a reference to what my replies are, it's not entirely correct.

Continue to roll the PC version if one wants text.
Buy the pc version if one wants text.
I've rolled ESO, EQ2 and Rift on pc...and used text and vent...so I can use vc on pc just fine.
I've more than explained why I and others don't want it added to the console version.

Just as the ppl who say yay are not gonna change their votes/minds, myself and the other nay group aren't changing theirs.

Mic up, group up, guild up and hav sum fun ppl

Not a bro....
But that was basically correct since you didn't add anything else. How bout just saying why you think consoles shouldn't have text chat, will it not enable you to play the game as well as only voice?

Huh, not a bro?? I don't get it. I've said my reasons several times, nothing personal, just too tired to type it all out again

nastuug wrote: »

Zusia211 wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Zusia211 wrote: »

Stop even trying to convice defcon or even give any reasons for it since the refuting point is just going to be:
1. Go get a PC
2. I cannot do voice on PC so you shouldn't be able to do text on console
3. Cause i don't want it
Some want it some don't. There are positives and negatives for getting it.

If that is supposed to be a reference to what my replies are, it's not entirely correct.

Continue to roll the PC version if one wants text.
Buy the pc version if one wants text.
I've rolled ESO, EQ2 and Rift on pc...and used text and vent...so I can use vc on pc just fine.
I've more than explained why I and others don't want it added to the console version.

Just as the ppl who say yay are not gonna change their votes/minds, myself and the other nay group aren't changing theirs.

Mic up, group up, guild up and hav sum fun ppl

Not a bro....
But that was basically correct since you didn't add anything else. How bout just saying why you think consoles shouldn't have text chat, will it not enable you to play the game as well as only voice?

He's baiting. I would just recommend dropping the conversation with him.

Who's baiting? Me for being accused of something and wanting to know what lol? wow...... yea man, nice one..

Varicite wrote: »

Zusia211 wrote: »

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Zusia211 wrote: »

Stop even trying to convice defcon or even give any reasons for it since the refuting point is just going to be:
1. Go get a PC
2. I cannot do voice on PC so you shouldn't be able to do text on console
3. Cause i don't want it
Some want it some don't. There are positives and negatives for getting it.

If that is supposed to be a reference to what my replies are, it's not entirely correct.

Continue to roll the PC version if one wants text.
Buy the pc version if one wants text.
I've rolled ESO, EQ2 and Rift on pc...and used text and vent...so I can use vc on pc just fine.
I've more than explained why I and others don't want it added to the console version.

Just as the ppl who say yay are not gonna change their votes/minds, myself and the other nay group aren't changing theirs.

Mic up, group up, guild up and hav sum fun ppl

Not a bro....
But that was basically correct since you didn't add anything else. How bout just saying why you think consoles shouldn't have text chat, will it not enable you to play the game as well as only voice?

I've been asking him this question for 2 pages, but he doesn't really seem to want to answer it, so it's kinda hard to actually respond or have any kind of meaningful discussion about the matter w/ him.

And these masses of players he keeps claiming to represent haven't really chimed in yet either.

Perhaps given some time, now that they are closing all of the other threads about text chat on consoles, others will post about why they feel that text chat shouldn't be added or how it will hinder their in-game experience moreso than not having text chat hinders using the in-game systems that were designed around having text enabled.

He keeps fishing to get me to change my stance..lol not gonna happen

I got it, how about another poll? lol! That would show ya..wat u already know....lots more folks than me do not want text chat on the console. I'm sorry that's not wat u want to hear, but I didn't make them vote and say no bro

Dahkoht wrote: »

I'm guessing they don't want the poll showing just how overwhelmingly it numbers of those who want the text chat , or want the option , vs the ones who don't want to allow anyone to have it.

The argument from those who can't type is that they would be expected to have a keyboard.

If voice chat is so wonderful , only a few of us will be using the keyboard.

Or could it be that zone wide text chat , guild text chat , random stranger text chat would me more convenient for many thus they would choose to use it.

It's cute how scared the voice only folks are of even allowing the option for others to use text chat.

I'm not scared nor would I assume anyone else would be either, of a who wants/doesn't want text chat poll...I've voted in all so far lol.

I'm guessing when u say "its cute how scared the voice only folks are" is supposed to be a put down? No offense taken...still holding my ground bro

Kalifas

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defcon.dealer1b14_ESO wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

Again, quit trying to speak for other people. Your opinions are only that, your opinions. They are certainly not mine, and I have a sneaking suspicion that I've been playing on consoles for FAR longer than you. ; )

Again, check the polls..I'm not the only no vote for text

Wow, ok..so ur older than I am? lol....oook, I fail to see the point?

You seem to think that I am not a "console gamer" because I have a differing opinion than you. I am simply saying that I've been a console gamer for almost as long as consoles have existed, so clearly that train of thought is incorrect.

You may not be the only "no" vote for text chat being implemented, but those people voted for themselves and they can speak for themselves.

You are not some kind of PS4 messiah that speaks for all console gamers in a fight against the "evil PC master race" trying to get their claws into your peaceful lands by poisoning the waters of consoles w/ their terrible crusade to give gamers the choice to use whichever they prefer.

So please stop acting like it, hmm?

I am the PC messiah that speaks for all gamers in a fight against the "evil console slaves" trying to retract their claws out of the peaceful lands by purifying the waters of consoles w/ their terrible crusade to take away gamer's choice adhered it to their preference.

And I say let my people go. I have a dream.

"And the pc messiah blew his breath onto the lands of Nirn that was empty and void without the word(Text chat) and the word filled the lands and it was good."

pasmith_ESO

Personally I don't want text chat and I hope that if ZOS implements it they make it optional and something that can be turned off and hidden from view.

I've never played an online game where text chat was anything but vile and full of hate speech and gold sellers spamming their wares.

So add it if you must, ZOS, but please don't force us to see it.

On an even more selfish note, I sit at a keyboard working for 10 hours a day. When it's time to play a game I don't want to have to bring a keyboard along. I played ESO on the PC, if I'm going to be sitting at a keyboard anyway I may as well keep playing on the PC with the better graphics it offers.

Justice31st

During the console PS4 beta I was one of the forum supporters of having text chat on ESO. However, I have changed my view and realized that It would be a pain in the arse laying back in a reclining chair trying to keep a keyboard on my lap typing on the console game. The mini keyboards that you connect to the controller does not allow both typing and voice chat at the same time, so that would not fix this problem. In addition, I could foresee groups and guilds saying voice chat only, or typing only; which wouldn't be good for any-ones preference.

Dahkoht

pasmith_ESO wrote: »

Personally I don't want text chat and I hope that if ZOS implements it they make it optional and something that can be turned off and hidden from view.

I've never played an online game where text chat was anything but vile and full of hate speech and gold sellers spamming their wares.

So add it if you must, ZOS, but please don't force us to see it.

On an even more selfish note, I sit at a keyboard working for 10 hours a day. When it's time to play a game I don't want to have to bring a keyboard along. I played ESO on the PC, if I'm going to be sitting at a keyboard anyway I may as well keep playing on the PC with the better graphics it offers.

You'll see no one , no one , who wants keyboard support and text chat saying it should be ANYTHING but OPTIONAL.

Only the tools who can't handle letting other people have choices are saying no options allowed.

Kalifas

This is exactly why voice chat should not be available or the only option..

https://youtube.com/watch?v=m89nT30e-K4

Varicite

Justice31st wrote: »

In addition, I could foresee groups and guilds saying no voice chat, or no typing; which wouldn't be good for any-ones preference.

On PC, I joined a guild that decided that you had to be part of the Daggerfall Covenant ONLY, and could not have any alts of any other factions and if you DID have any alts of other factions, you had to delete them.

I have some multi-50 crafter alts in Ebonheart Pact, because that was where my family wanted to play when the game launched, and as most of them stopped playing I rerolled most of my active characters to DC, because that's where I had wanted to play from the start.

They wanted me to delete my multi-50 crafters to stay in the guild.

So I left, because that guild was clearly not a very good fit for me.

The reason I've mentioned this is pretty simple: If a guild is trying to force you to use something that isn't your preference, you don't have to be a part of that guild. Guilds are a dime a dozen.

If there was a guild that discriminated against people who were of (for example) Hispanic origin, I wouldn't suddenly say "Let's just not have Hispanics play this game at all, so it won't be a problem".

I just wouldn't join that guild...

Justice31st

Kalifas wrote: »

This is exactly why voice chat should not be available or the only option..

https://youtube.com/watch?v=m89nT30e-K4

Ironically, that makes me want voice chat even more. I would laugh my arse off if someone did a spot on Herbet the Pervert impression when I was playing in ESO.

defcon.dealer1b14_ESO

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pasmith_ESO wrote: »

Personally I don't want text chat and I hope that if ZOS implements it they make it optional and something that can be turned off and hidden from view.

I've never played an online game where text chat was anything but vile and full of hate speech and gold sellers spamming their wares.

So add it if you must, ZOS, but please don't force us to see it.

On an even more selfish note, I sit at a keyboard working for 10 hours a day. When it's time to play a game I don't want to have to bring a keyboard along. I played ESO on the PC, if I'm going to be sitting at a keyboard anyway I may as well keep playing on the PC with the better graphics it offers.

You'll see no one , no one , who wants keyboard support and text chat saying it should be ANYTHING but OPTIONAL.

Only the tools who can't handle letting other people have choices are saying no options allowed.

"tools" huh? Why the put downs man...can u not disagree with me/us without the internet tough guy routine?

Mirra_Halfelven

Justice31st wrote: »

During the console PS4 beta I was one of the forum supporters of having text chat on ESO. However, I have changed my view and realized that It would be a pain in the arse laying back in a reclining chair trying to keep a keyboard on my lap typing on the console game. The mini keyboards that you connect to the controller does not allow both typing and voice chat at the same time, so that would not fix this problem. In addition, I could foresee groups and guilds saying voice chat only, or typing only; which wouldn't be good for any-ones preference.

ummm lapdesk maybe?

Justice31st

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Justice31st wrote: »

During the console PS4 beta I was one of the forum supporters of having text chat on ESO. However, I have changed my view and realized that It would be a pain in the arse laying back in a reclining chair trying to keep a keyboard on my lap typing on the console game. The mini keyboards that you connect to the controller does not allow both typing and voice chat at the same time, so that would not fix this problem. In addition, I could foresee groups and guilds saying voice chat only, or typing only; which wouldn't be good for any-ones preference.

ummm lapdesk maybe?

But where would I then rest my bucket of popcorn?