Blackwater Blade (EU)

Leandor

Xarcus wrote: »

Dral_Shady wrote: »

aaaaaand right now 50+ solo DC on bleakers.

Dude, they arent solo if they re 50.

raviour

u just missing helsing and ld spy zergs shady, get over it.

reds have this thing about winning campaigns so used to nightcap for points and it really doesn't make much difference in blackwater/haderus, except it keeps pop up.

many dc have tried to go to ad to help them l2p but we can't take the rage quit mentality there. no dc wanna join red zerg alliance and u still have pop but seems u have rage quit mentality too...

dc r used to being outnumbered so we just keep trying and succeed in the end, zone has no rage and is mostly info or comedy, and we have the most fun... this is why dc won every campaign since cp removed, with generally less numbers.

Leandor

raviour wrote: »

...dc r used to being outnumbered...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, thanks mate, that made my day.

Asmael

Leandor wrote: »

raviour wrote: »

...dc r used to being outnumbered...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, thanks mate, that made my day.

Rav is also still convinced that there are LD & Hellsing spies all over the place.

1) No one in LD gives a f*** about spying other factions
2) There have been no organized groups in BwB for a while
3) I haven't heard of Hellsing since... I don't know, months?

All EP has are a few OK leaders and the mighty clown John Snow, who has a tendency to die without landing a hit or have a mighty 1K DPS when attacking an AFK target while running a pure damage build.

The rest is just fluctuation where some have more people, some others have less, one faction zergs, disconnects, another zerg... Rinse & repeat until everyone complains that their faction is outnumbered and everyone else zerg.

Valencer

Funny how Blackwater Blade basically instantly became mini Ebony Blade the moment every organised EP and AD group left because of a lack of competition.

Kind of expected though. People can deny it all they want but on PC EU (imo) the Covenant is the real zerg alliance right now looking at all campaigns overall. That's going to rub some proud blues the wrong way, but I honestly couldn't care less.

Here's one prediction though: If a more organised EP/AD group ever homes in BwB again and cleans it up, the blues will leave en mass while raging about imaginary cheaters, nightcapping and exploiters. And it will be funny as hell. This is how buff campaigns (and the hordes of baddies they attract) work.

Tillalarrien

Hey again

Been away for 3 weeks so dont really know the latest situation but organised TS and other groups of Daedric Order should still be running on EP side. The problem for EP is that better players refuse to bow down to zerging mentality and therefore we cant do much 16 vs 50 map-wise. No matter how many smurfs we kill, there are always 30 more to replace them or taking some other keep ect.

Therefore Luci, I only partly agree with your prediction. All EP has too do is wait 1month for start of school. Then overwealming DC numbers will drop to standard 1/2 24man groups at peak. 16 vs 30 is much more managable and then skill and organisation of EP groups will dominate over good solo DCers and whatever-this-thing-AD-is-doing-is again.

The way to battle DC numbers right now would be if I/somone else with bit of experience would start running day-long PUGs to get EP randoms organised and invested, but tbh i dont have nor time nor nerves for this right now, so I'll just wait it out. If problem isnt gone by September then we'll get some plans in motion but till then im satisfied just with causing DC as much pain as I can and having fun playing outnumbered fights:D

Anyway, been a nice break but im happy to be back so cya all in BwB soon

raviour

so guild zerging in ts with spies doing ball group tornado trains taught ad and ep how to rage quit after cp removed, nice.. long live emeric and a million dc emps....

ty for the training.... some learn, some hmmmm

luci chats nonsense, hellsing were here to spy and dethrone 1 sunday asmael, the ad and ep zones and mentality kill u not just in blackwater. u never see dc whinge about zergs and we always been least pop, u teach us how to fight and feed us ap..

trust me u dont even play here so why comment? dc r still outnumbered generally, its just that we DON'T RAGE QUIT

ty dc take a bow, trueflame ebony azura blackwater thank u kindly

Valencer

Hellsing has been dead for like a year as far as I know man...

I left nonvet because there was no competition anymore and that was why I created LD in the first place - to compete with AD and DC guilds in BwB and help make EP more competitive. Obviously wasnt needed anymore when EP was basically permanently holding emp at that point.

Shame that void has been filled by a horde of little blue nightcappers who zerg the whole map during the day while raving about how theyre the best, but like I said... not surprising

Tillalarrien

Haha @Dral_Shady here you have some nice insults and popcorn drama we've been waiting for :P

Seriously Rav Im gonna give you this: DC has few good & really friendly players that are actually searching for smallscale and stuff like that and I alway love to fight them. They are the reason I still prefer DC over AD

But to describe the rest of DC im gonna tell you a story (cause I have nothing better to do) :P

So me and 3 guildies decided to just have some fun since EP were on low or taking seju or something like that.
Anyway, after some time we ended up on glade resource deep in blue territory. We were wondering how many of them will show up so we captured it. After 1 scout a group of 6 came - nothing much but it was fun fight at the keep wall. Then few more joined till we eventually couldnt take them in open (with some DCs sieging from the walls) and had to pull back and use resource flagg as a safe place. They were disorganised and we could go out, bait them, focus them down ect. It felt like they always came back with a one more so it stayed unpredictable and fun.

When they finally wiped us about 30 min later with few more ppl and few more sieges but really mostly just for our own mistake I got a ragewhisper from one of them calling me a cheater. I ignored him and instead asked him to give my regards to his group and thank them for fun time his reply was something like that:
"I am 1vX. I dont group with those noobs."

And this is the point of the story.
Rest of your DC is running in masses ungrouped and somehow they think this means they are solo. That guy fought 16vs4 and he tought he is 1vXing

So yeah all faction zerg. The difference is just that AD is brainless and ragequity, EP lacks few PUG leaders right now and so DC raigns the map with those wannabe lone wolfs in the pack of 40 running from one keep to the next while poor AD and EP newbies cant resist the seductive walls (or better: gates) of Sejuanus

Tillalarrien

PS: I agree with what Luci said about no competition... I havent encountered organised guild group on AD or DC side that could stand on their own for months (on keep level. Ive seen groups of 6 good DC but those cant really do much apart from running with existing PUG and getting accused of zerging ) Now you have unlimited numbers of new recruits so plys take advantage, train them and group and start a strong guild.
Diving into sea of smurfs is still fun challange for us but as I said in a month your numbers will be gone and if I imagine playing even numbers with my guild against DC pug, well it would be pretty boring...
So plys, start some guilds we can compete with.

Hekaterin

Must be cheaters exploiters of course (and only on ad/ep, am i rite) and what, spy accusations towards guilds who dont play there?
Really missing the old BwB at times... those were good days

raviour

man glademist was owned by hellsing organization for 2 weeks after they zerged us to dethrone 1 sunday, moira was lv49 standing at base watching cyrHUD for hours.
'if u dont know *** dont say ***' - beenie man 2015

raviour

little dragons r dead hello kitty are dead i hear..

RIP zergalists in bwb

learn to play stop raging etc etc.....

dc r still less numbers here, but y'all did teach us well

raviour

Tillalarrien wrote: »

PS: I agree with what Luci said about no competition... I havent encountered organised guild group on AD or DC side that could stand on their own for months (on keep level. Ive seen groups of 6 good DC but those cant really do much apart from running with existing PUG and getting accused of zerging ) Now you have unlimited numbers of new recruits so plys take advantage, train them and group and start a strong guild.
Diving into sea of smurfs is still fun challange for us but as I said in a month your numbers will be gone and if I imagine playing even numbers with my guild against DC pug, well it would be pretty boring...
So plys, start some guilds we can compete with.

dc have 2 guilds both do 5 member groups + rarely there too and these guilds dont follow pug, we just have people willing to lead pug thank the lord so i can do some banking n sell some stuff

before u comment here get some info

Asmael

raviour wrote: »

man glademist was owned by hellsing organization for 2 weeks after they zerged us to dethrone 1 sunday, moira was lv49 standing at base watching cyrHUD for hours.
'if u dont know *** dont say ***' - beenie man 2015

Moïra Hellsinger is my alt, and has been since deleted. While someone could relate the name to the Hellsing guild...

Nope. Haven't run in Hellsing. Don't even have CyrHUD for that matter. Good job doing a quote from 2015, because it seems you're stuck to a year ago.

But please keep going with the conspiracy theories, those are pretty entertaining.

Dral_Shady

raviour wrote: »

u just missing helsing and ld spy zergs shady, get over it.

reds have this thing about winning campaigns so used to nightcap for points and it really doesn't make much difference in blackwater/haderus, except it keeps pop up.

many dc have tried to go to ad to help them l2p but we can't take the rage quit mentality there. no dc wanna join red zerg alliance and u still have pop but seems u have rage quit mentality too...

dc r used to being outnumbered so we just keep trying and succeed in the end, zone has no rage and is mostly info or comedy, and we have the most fun... this is why dc won every campaign since cp removed, with generally less numbers.

No idea what Helsing spies are but well I was away for 6 months.
You might be used to being outnumbered but DC is the only faction I have seen pop locked a couple of times so you are certainly not outnumbered atm, and the zergs you manage to put is amazing!!!!. Ofc its just 50 single players being in the same spot at the same time
Doesnt help either with all that nightcapping DC are doing atm.

laksikus

DC in BWB hadnt any good guild group since sexy left.
that was about the same time LD and kitties left too.


Well, what spies rav means is probably Swag, cos he told zone he spies for LD as a joke months, and Rav took it for real and is rumbling about it in DC zone every now and then.

I always enjoy it when i come back to see he is still raging about sexy and LD, and still thinking slu dem can do anything at all xD

@rav: you still owe me a duel btw. or are you still too scared to try?

raviour

makes me laugh how ppl that don't even play bwb and have bad information comment here, go azura forum, or come back here.

laksikus

haha.
true i never play bwb. and i dont have a friends and guildies there
/sarcasm off

but funny how you think im never in bwb. you wouldnt even see me in bwb, you ignored me after I revealed your lies in bwb

Ufretin

raviour wrote: »

so guild zerging in ts with spies doing ball group tornado trains taught ad and ep how to rage quit after cp removed, nice.. long live emeric and a million dc emps....

ty for the training.... some learn, some hmmmm

luci chats nonsense, hellsing were here to spy and dethrone 1 sunday asmael, the ad and ep zones and mentality kill u not just in blackwater. u never see dc whinge about zergs and we always been least pop, u teach us how to fight and feed us ap..

trust me u dont even play here so why comment? dc r still outnumbered generally, its just that we DON'T RAGE QUIT

ty dc take a bow, trueflame ebony azura blackwater thank u kindly

Never quite understood some ppl being obsessed with "spies". What would they even accomplish? 99% of moves being discussed in zone are obvious things any half-wit could guess. More sophisticated plans would be discussed in guild /group chat anyway.

As a matter of fact, I created my DC alt to help them out when bwb was grossly imbalanced in EP's favor during the time LD did their daily emp runs. DC WAS outnumbered back then but hasn't been ever since.

The only time I logged to DC recently was to check out slu dem's guild store. Might as well accuse you of selling gear to the enemy

p.s. Being a bwb regular for almost a year, I've never even heard of "Hellsing".

Tillalarrien

raviour wrote: »

Tillalarrien wrote: »

PS: I agree with what Luci said about no competition... I havent encountered organised guild group on AD or DC side that could stand on their own for months (on keep level. Ive seen groups of 6 good DC but those cant really do much apart from running with existing PUG and getting accused of zerging ) Now you have unlimited numbers of new recruits so plys take advantage, train them and group and start a strong guild.
Diving into sea of smurfs is still fun challange for us but as I said in a month your numbers will be gone and if I imagine playing even numbers with my guild against DC pug, well it would be pretty boring...
So plys, start some guilds we can compete with.

dc have 2 guilds both do 5 member groups + rarely there too and these guilds dont follow pug, we just have people willing to lead pug thank the lord so i can do some banking n sell some stuff

before u comment here get some info

Hah m8 thats what I said ^^
Im not sayin that DC doesnt have guilds: im saying the biggest group from these guilds are 6 man groups. And those just cant go head to head against 12-16 TS Raid without help. Im saying it would be nice to have some good old guild rivarly here :P

Bit of BwB history :P Hellsing was old EP guild that ran TS zone groups around the time LDs started, the guild was dying out/running infrequently at that time already so yeah, they are gone for more then a year now.

Dral_Shady

Ahh yea remember the name now. Damn its hard to keep track of all those player and guild names. Someone really should write a chronology about EU BWB

Xarc

What happened to AD theses days ? So many ppl, zerg zerg zerg zerg;
And what happened to EP ?

Did all EP rerolled to AD or what ?

Tillalarrien

Still same as before: EP at the moment don't have regular PUG-leaders to organise them. I would put more effort into it but one starts to wonder if its worth it when EP on their own cant even put an effort into defing last keep AD needs for emp in the middle of the day

That being said, hey other factions! Can u make sure emps u crown are actually hm worthy?
Tried challenging past few to a duel and they always have an excuse. Not saying Id win but, come on if your emp at least have some pride to accept the challenge
Today was my favourite excuse so far. He had to "heal his troops"!!

Then he procceded to zerg down me and 3 guildies that were having fun baiting AD at seju with his "troops". Really such an urgent task he couldn't spare 5 minutes for 1v1.

Xarc

Tillalarrien wrote: »

He had to "heal his troops"!!

Then he procceded to zerg down me and 3 guildies that were having fun baiting AD at seju with his "troops".

haha.

Tillalarrien

Also I apoligise for the recent EP nighcappings.. the one currently 1st in leaderboards is dedicated nighcapper capping only empty keeps and then logging off - tried reasoning with him but he just wont get it: ("who are you to tell me what I cannot do", "there are different time zones, u know that", "everyone is doing it anyway, you cant stopp nighcapping")

Worst thing is he is not here for emp only.. he wants to do it every night - guess he likes his name on the screen or something - in any case he says hes soon off to "big-leagues" so good luck with him in vet campaigns :DD

Xarc

Of course, we can't stop nightcaping. I do not complain about it.

Teso is a mmo and war is 7/7 h24. There is players in all factions every time, and nightcap isnt worst than to capture all keeps at 9am when for exemple there is only 5 ppl to defend a faction because most of other are working IRL. We have to deal with

The last campaign was : 1 new emp per day, and all 3 faction got it. Some used to nightcap and other did it at primetime. Many good fights, and even if the guy got emp at 5am, he got the points and the 1st place at this moment. I personnaly consider he deserved it and, it's a part of the game after all.

Eightpeaks

Is it just me or has the quality of players/tactics diminished in this campaign since launch?

Not that I'm pro. But I remember there being much more strategy involved when ESO launched.

laksikus

yes

Valencer

June 2015



I guess quality of players is subjective.