Console Quick chat article - link inside

Uberkull

uberkull wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I wonder people's reactions to text bubbles ...

Oh you know where I'm going with this BS...

First, thanks for digging this up. Yup, you read that right Smurf!!

Now, I knew...as you did...this was how they were implementing Quick Chat. This is really lame. Imagine this in town with 50 people standing around. Chat bubbles everywhere, overlapping each other. And only if you are turned in the correct direction to see these chat bubbles. Also, distance...if you are close enough.

Then you'll have those that just spam the largest phrase over and over trying to cover up others chat bubbles. Happened in wow, this is why it was short-lived. Turned it off quick.

And the phrases...really? That's what we are starting with? There are so many that never will get used. 'Tank the Boss'?? LOL if you have to select that during a fight, first...the tank isn't facing you to see that depending on the boss...and second, you're already dead if you are trying to get that quickchat off and getting into the view of the supposed tank.

It's just a poor alternative to a regular text chatbox. I'm done arguing that though.

Oh my...I just found the abuse of this system by console players in a certain age group....

I'm going to leave it to your imagination....but just use some of these quotes to form a chat bubble barrage.

Bouvin

So wait, if your on Pacific time, you won't be able to login for a full 4 hours after eastern time zone?

Man.. people are gunna be upset about not being able to get their names because some one else had several hours of advantage on them...

Heromofo

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Zazaaji wrote: »

However, it makes me wonder what "Cycle Quest" will be mapped to now.
That was kind of an important feature in the beta, and I hope we won't have to open the journal, pick the quest, confirm tracked, then back out of the journal just to change what quest shows up. Still, between Cycle Quest or Quick Chat menu, I do prefer the Quick Chat menu.

In the beta this was assigned to right d-pad, and the article says nothing about it.

Cycle Quest is still mapped to the right d-pad. To cycle, you just tap on the d-pad, and to access Quick Chat you need to hold it down.

Edit: Whoops, didn't realize @NewBlacksmurf beat me to it!

Looks even better than i had hoped if you see the devs responsible they deserve cookies.


Make It Bear Claws!

Tallowby

Bouvin wrote: »

So wait, if your on Pacific time, you won't be able to login for a full 4 hours after eastern time zone?

Man.. people are gunna be upset about not being able to get their names because some one else had several hours of advantage on them...

You forgot all the PC eligible transfers that will be copied before even they can log in.....

Bouvin

uberkull wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I wonder people's reactions to text bubbles ...

Oh you know where I'm going with this BS...

First, thanks for digging this up. Yup, you read that right Smurf!!

Now, I knew...as you did...this was how they were implementing Quick Chat. This is really lame. Imagine this in town with 50 people standing around. Chat bubbles everywhere, overlapping each other. And only if you are turned in the correct direction to see these chat bubbles. Also, distance...if you are close enough.

Then you'll have those that just spam the largest phrase over and over trying to cover up others chat bubbles. Happened in wow, this is why it was short-lived. Turned it off quick.

And the phrases...really? That's what we are starting with? There are so many that never will get used. 'Tank the Boss'?? LOL if you have to select that during a fight, first...the tank isn't facing you to see that depending on the boss...and second, you're already dead if you are trying to get that quickchat off and getting into the view of the supposed tank.

It's just a poor alternative to a regular text chatbox. I'm done arguing that though.

Oh my...I just found the abuse of this system by console players in a certain age group....

I'm going to leave it to your imagination....but just use some of these quotes to form a chat bubble barrage.

I see the following possible combination of quick chats from the available options.

Hello. Get close. Spread out. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Good job. Goodbye. Self-congratulate.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO

"Would you like to trade" - seriously?

Without knowing what that person wanted to trade, would I ever take that offer? Probably not.

I see tons of problems with a clunky, non-specific chat system in a game as complex as ESO. Only being able to say 22 things, and only having easy access to 8 of those phrases at a time, would make me feel stupid. I even had a flashback to this passage from "Gulliver's Travels", describing a project to simplify communication in a way that would obviously not work:

The other project was, a scheme for entirely abolishing all words whatsoever; and this was urged as a great advantage in point of health, as well as brevity. For it is plain, that every word we speak is, in some degree, a diminution of our lunge by corrosion, and, consequently, contributes to the shortening of our lives. An expedient was therefore offered, “that since words are only names for things, it would be more convenient for all men to carry about them such things as were necessary to express a particular business they are to discourse on.”

People might just give up on communication and run around like Yahoos (yes, that's another reference to the same book), fighting everything that moves and collecting shiny stones for themselves.

NewBlacksmurf

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

"Would you like to trade" - seriously?

Without knowing what that person wanted to trade, would I ever take that offer? Probably not.

I see tons of problems with a clunky, non-specific chat system in a game as complex as ESO. Only being able to say 22 things, and only having easy access to 8 of those phrases at a time, would make me feel stupid. I even had a flashback to this passage from "Gulliver's Travels", describing a project to simplify communication in a way that would obviously not work:

The other project was, a scheme for entirely abolishing all words whatsoever; and this was urged as a great advantage in point of health, as well as brevity. For it is plain, that every word we speak is, in some degree, a diminution of our lunge by corrosion, and, consequently, contributes to the shortening of our lives. An expedient was therefore offered, “that since words are only names for things, it would be more convenient for all men to carry about them such things as were necessary to express a particular business they are to discourse on.”

People might just give up on communication and run around like Yahoos (yes, that's another reference to the same book), fighting everything that moves and collecting shiny stones for themselves.

The text chat wheel really looks to initiate conversation
No diff than what ppl do on PC the opportunity still exists for them to add the possibilities to link an item in the radial chat.

Give them time

Edit: it's obvious that the direction of these changes are to encourage use of the systems that exist over using any form of text to work around the systems in place.

I think what they are providing is a really good option and addresses most of the logical concerns that people presented around handicaps and inability to talk due to hardware or environmental limitations

NewBlacksmurf

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

"Would you like to trade" - seriously?

Without knowing what that person wanted to trade, would I ever take that offer? Probably not.

I see tons of problems with a clunky, non-specific chat system in a game as complex as ESO. Only being able to say 22 things, and only having easy access to 8 of those phrases at a time, would make me feel stupid. I even had a flashback to this passage from "Gulliver's Travels", describing a project to simplify communication in a way that would obviously not work:

The other project was, a scheme for entirely abolishing all words whatsoever; and this was urged as a great advantage in point of health, as well as brevity. For it is plain, that every word we speak is, in some degree, a diminution of our lunge by corrosion, and, consequently, contributes to the shortening of our lives. An expedient was therefore offered, “that since words are only names for things, it would be more convenient for all men to carry about them such things as were necessary to express a particular business they are to discourse on.”

People might just give up on communication and run around like Yahoos (yes, that's another reference to the same book), fighting everything that moves and collecting shiny stones for themselves.

I'm sure people will trade not knowing what's for trade but there are other better options via guild stores IMO

Heromofo

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

"Would you like to trade" - seriously?

Without knowing what that person wanted to trade, would I ever take that offer? Probably not.

I see tons of problems with a clunky, non-specific chat system in a game as complex as ESO. Only being able to say 22 things, and only having easy access to 8 of those phrases at a time, would make me feel stupid. I even had a flashback to this passage from "Gulliver's Travels", describing a project to simplify communication in a way that would obviously not work:

The other project was, a scheme for entirely abolishing all words whatsoever; and this was urged as a great advantage in point of health, as well as brevity. For it is plain, that every word we speak is, in some degree, a diminution of our lunge by corrosion, and, consequently, contributes to the shortening of our lives. An expedient was therefore offered, “that since words are only names for things, it would be more convenient for all men to carry about them such things as were necessary to express a particular business they are to discourse on.”

People might just give up on communication and run around like Yahoos (yes, that's another reference to the same book), fighting everything that moves and collecting shiny stones for themselves.

I'm sure people will trade not knowing what's for trade but there are other better options via guild stores IMO

Yeah i think that version of trade is for situatioms where you want to give say another player in your party some potions or buff food.

traigusb14_ESO2

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

"Would you like to trade" - seriously?

Without knowing what that person wanted to trade, would I ever take that offer? Probably not.

I see tons of problems with a clunky, non-specific chat system in a game as complex as ESO. Only being able to say 22 things, and only having easy access to 8 of those phrases at a time, would make me feel stupid. I even had a flashback to this passage from "Gulliver's Travels", describing a project to simplify communication in a way that would obviously not work:

The other project was, a scheme for entirely abolishing all words whatsoever; and this was urged as a great advantage in point of health, as well as brevity. For it is plain, that every word we speak is, in some degree, a diminution of our lunge by corrosion, and, consequently, contributes to the shortening of our lives. An expedient was therefore offered, “that since words are only names for things, it would be more convenient for all men to carry about them such things as were necessary to express a particular business they are to discourse on.”

People might just give up on communication and run around like Yahoos (yes, that's another reference to the same book), fighting everything that moves and collecting shiny stones for themselves.

I'm sure people will trade not knowing what's for trade but there are other better options via guild stores IMO

This is also a supplement for people not voice chatting, which they hope will be the default.

I can just walk up to the same guy and in local voice say "hey wanna buy some Kuta runes... only 1 previous owner.. and she only used them it to drink potions faster on weekends."

Peekachu99

This feature fixes nothing with regards to zone chat and trading.

Kalifas

Peekachu99 wrote: »

This feature fixes nothing with regards to zone chat and trading.

Easy fix. There needs to be a custom quick chat where you can write in your own text in the pre made bubbles. Only that could be tedious with no keyboard to type out custom quick chat.

NewBlacksmurf

Kalifas wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

This feature fixes nothing with regards to zone chat and trading.

Easy fix. There needs to be a custom quick chat where you can write in your own text in the pre made bubbles. Only that could be tedious with no keyboard to type out custom quick chat.

But this already exists on consoles. If you want to go over tech you could msg someone and take a screenshot (on Xbox One at least)

Edit:
Not directed at you but I often wonder if the complaints are from ppl who are familiar with the consoles system features.

ZOS has done a great job on this using what exists and filling in the gaps with their additions

Peekachu99

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Kalifas wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

This feature fixes nothing with regards to zone chat and trading.

Easy fix. There needs to be a custom quick chat where you can write in your own text in the pre made bubbles. Only that could be tedious with no keyboard to type out custom quick chat.

But this already exists on consoles. If you want to go over tech you could msg someone and take a screenshot (on Xbox One at least)

Edit:
Not directed at you but I often wonder if the complaints are from ppl who are familiar with the consoles system features.

ZOS has done a great job on this using what exists and filling in the gaps with their additions

We understand your stance on console chat. Many of us (myself included) also understand how to use the various texting and messaging interfaces inherent to the X1/ PS4. What you continue to fail to understand is that I should not have to rely on said "secondary" means of communication to perform features that are fundamental to MMORPGs, such as chatting, figuring out the details of trades, etc.. DCUO and FFXIV have functioning chat boxes AND the option to use secondary communication methods on PS4/ X1. Full stop. ESO has less options, not more, and that's never a good thing when it comes to communication in a massively multiplayer game.

Moderator note: Edited per our rules on baiting.

Attorneyatlawl

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

I hate bubbles, especially in non-cartoony games,but I'll deal.

Bubbles vs chat box (just the visual presentation)

Isn't it the same with a different position on the screen ?
AND it doesn't stay on the screen blocking your view

Pre-typed text vs manual typing
-Huge difference as far as time and simplifies interactions

Huh? No, they look atrocious and pop up at random at various spots on the screen, while having no real communication value as people can't actually type out what they want to say with a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse as both consoles officially support in the first place. So now not only do we have randomly pre-set phrase bubbles that appear/disappear at various spots, but still no text communication for trade or chat. Comparatively the chat box could be minimized at will already anyways, could already fade away when not in use on the PC (including the box and text inside of it), etc. and was far superior. Unfortunately, this is another example of fixing what isn't broken... on the PC they pulled out the minimap options, seeing how much damage you're even hitting for or is on your health bar, etc. Now they've just taken the whole thing a step further for the worse with the console ports.... .

Peekachu99

Kalifas wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

This feature fixes nothing with regards to zone chat and trading.

Easy fix. There needs to be a custom quick chat where you can write in your own text in the pre made bubbles. Only that could be tedious with no keyboard to type out custom quick chat.

Currently, there is no "custom" quick chat to my knowledge. There are a number of fixes that would work, and ZoS hasn't implemented any of them for the console release. The obvious answer is to just have a chat box.

Also, from what I've seen the chat box only broadcasts in your area and the area in which people can see your toon. So you have to rely on any number of "right place, right time" factors just to do something as simple as communicate. Its still totally obtuse, no matter how one looks at it.

NewBlacksmurf

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

I hate bubbles, especially in non-cartoony games,but I'll deal.

Bubbles vs chat box (just the visual presentation)

Isn't it the same with a different position on the screen ?
AND it doesn't stay on the screen blocking your view

Pre-typed text vs manual typing
-Huge difference as far as time and simplifies interactions

Huh? No, they look atrocious and pop up at random at various spots on the screen, while having no real communication value as people can't actually type out what they want to say with a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse as both consoles officially support in the first place. So now not only do we have randomly pre-set phrase bubbles that appear/disappear at various spots, but still no text communication for trade or chat. Comparatively the chat box could be minimized at will already anyways, could already fade away when not in use on the PC (including the box and text inside of it), etc. and was far superior. Unfortunately, this is another example of fixing what isn't broken... on the PC they pulled out the minimap options, seeing how much damage you're even hitting for or is on your health bar, etc. Now they've just taken the whole thing a step further for the worse with the console ports.... .

The systems have built in text chat already it's just not in the way you're use to seeing it on the PC version of TESO BUt it's very consistent to what is normal on console games regardless of the game type

It has worked and continues to work

By comparison I personally feel negative about the text chat on PC

To each its own but I do like what we will experience come June 9th. Maybe you'll join us on one of the systems you've purchased the game on too

Heromofo

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

I hate bubbles, especially in non-cartoony games,but I'll deal.

Bubbles vs chat box (just the visual presentation)

Isn't it the same with a different position on the screen ?
AND it doesn't stay on the screen blocking your view

Pre-typed text vs manual typing
-Huge difference as far as time and simplifies interactions

Huh? No, they look atrocious and pop up at random at various spots on the screen, while having no real communication value as people can't actually type out what they want to say with a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse as both consoles officially support in the first place. So now not only do we have randomly pre-set phrase bubbles that appear/disappear at various spots, but still no text communication for trade or chat. Comparatively the chat box could be minimized at will already anyways, could already fade away when not in use on the PC (including the box and text inside of it), etc. and was far superior. Unfortunately, this is another example of fixing what isn't broken... on the PC they pulled out the minimap options, seeing how much damage you're even hitting for or is on your health bar, etc. Now they've just taken the whole thing a step further for the worse with the console ports.... .

The systems have built in text chat already it's just not in the way you're use to seeing it on the PC version of TESO BUt it's very consistent to what is normal on console games regardless of the game type

It has worked and continues to work

By comparison I personally feel negative about the text chat on PC

To each its own but I do like what we will experience come June 9th. Maybe you'll join us on one of the systems you've purchased the game on too

Not sure what the hate is all about but the Console version is bloody unreal it blew all my expectations but if they put in a pc chat system i would be very disappointed because between the beta and the pics above its great.

+1 Mofojokers
+1 mutt6177
+1 serphy
+1 basketrocker

Plus if someone does not like it the console version then go back to pc.
I'd prefer not to have a pc copy and just enjoy the hard work zos has done for consoles.


Edit: i am Mofojokers

NewBlacksmurf

Heromofo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

I hate bubbles, especially in non-cartoony games,but I'll deal.

Bubbles vs chat box (just the visual presentation)

Isn't it the same with a different position on the screen ?
AND it doesn't stay on the screen blocking your view

Pre-typed text vs manual typing
-Huge difference as far as time and simplifies interactions

Huh? No, they look atrocious and pop up at random at various spots on the screen, while having no real communication value as people can't actually type out what they want to say with a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse as both consoles officially support in the first place. So now not only do we have randomly pre-set phrase bubbles that appear/disappear at various spots, but still no text communication for trade or chat. Comparatively the chat box could be minimized at will already anyways, could already fade away when not in use on the PC (including the box and text inside of it), etc. and was far superior. Unfortunately, this is another example of fixing what isn't broken... on the PC they pulled out the minimap options, seeing how much damage you're even hitting for or is on your health bar, etc. Now they've just taken the whole thing a step further for the worse with the console ports.... .

The systems have built in text chat already it's just not in the way you're use to seeing it on the PC version of TESO BUt it's very consistent to what is normal on console games regardless of the game type

It has worked and continues to work

By comparison I personally feel negative about the text chat on PC

To each its own but I do like what we will experience come June 9th. Maybe you'll join us on one of the systems you've purchased the game on too

Not sure what the hate is all about but the Console version is bloody unreal it blew all my expectations but if they put in a pc chat system i would be very disappointed because between the beta and the pics above its great.

+1 Mofojokers
+1 mutt6177
+1 serphy
+1 basketrocker

Plus if someone does not like it the console version then go back to pc.
I'd prefer not to have a pc copy and just enjoy the hard work zos has done for consoles.


Edit: i am Mofojokers

I've been saying this but ZOS doesn't like it so I'll say it in another way

We have three different presentations of the same game designed in ways to meet the needs of different customer bases.
If one doesn't suit your desires another should closely align....great times and hope you find your fit!

Sincerely

Heromofo

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

I hate bubbles, especially in non-cartoony games,but I'll deal.

Bubbles vs chat box (just the visual presentation)

Isn't it the same with a different position on the screen ?
AND it doesn't stay on the screen blocking your view

Pre-typed text vs manual typing
-Huge difference as far as time and simplifies interactions

Huh? No, they look atrocious and pop up at random at various spots on the screen, while having no real communication value as people can't actually type out what they want to say with a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse as both consoles officially support in the first place. So now not only do we have randomly pre-set phrase bubbles that appear/disappear at various spots, but still no text communication for trade or chat. Comparatively the chat box could be minimized at will already anyways, could already fade away when not in use on the PC (including the box and text inside of it), etc. and was far superior. Unfortunately, this is another example of fixing what isn't broken... on the PC they pulled out the minimap options, seeing how much damage you're even hitting for or is on your health bar, etc. Now they've just taken the whole thing a step further for the worse with the console ports.... .

The systems have built in text chat already it's just not in the way you're use to seeing it on the PC version of TESO BUt it's very consistent to what is normal on console games regardless of the game type

It has worked and continues to work

By comparison I personally feel negative about the text chat on PC

To each its own but I do like what we will experience come June 9th. Maybe you'll join us on one of the systems you've purchased the game on too

Not sure what the hate is all about but the Console version is bloody unreal it blew all my expectations but if they put in a pc chat system i would be very disappointed because between the beta and the pics above its great.

+1 Mofojokers
+1 mutt6177
+1 serphy
+1 basketrocker

Plus if someone does not like it the console version then go back to pc.
I'd prefer not to have a pc copy and just enjoy the hard work zos has done for consoles.


Edit: i am Mofojokers

I've been saying this but ZOS doesn't like it so I'll say it in another way

We have three different presentations of the same game designed in ways to meet the needs of different customer bases.
If one doesn't suit your desires another should closely align....great times and hope you find your fit!

Sincerely

Yeah agree the only reason i can see hate for the consoles is the pc players that.

A ) did not get to transfer.
B ) trying to stop others from leaving.
C ) a pc transfer that is not use to consoles.

So i can only say:

A ) im sure they will offer it again later.
B ) just relax thr pc servers will survive as long as the game does.
C ) again chill we have a chat box for warframe and it is not used on console we prefer to talk to each other and you will get use to it.

Kalifas

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Kalifas wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

This feature fixes nothing with regards to zone chat and trading.

Easy fix. There needs to be a custom quick chat where you can write in your own text in the pre made bubbles. Only that could be tedious with no keyboard to type out custom quick chat.

But this already exists on consoles. If you want to go over tech you could msg someone and take a screenshot (on Xbox One at least)

Edit:
Not directed at you but I often wonder if the complaints are from ppl who are familiar with the consoles system features.

ZOS has done a great job on this using what exists and filling in the gaps with their additions

Thanks I took no offense. I am on the side of needing a keyboard. But I am not playing on console and I cannot play cross server with console players. So I refrain from complaining on this topic since it has no bearing on my play.

The reviews and players will say whether this is good or not a month or two following release. Like I said earlier though..
If they try and add that functionality months after launch. The damage will be done already.

Have fun and hope you enjoy your game Smurf.

Uberkull

Bouvin wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I wonder people's reactions to text bubbles ...

Oh you know where I'm going with this BS...

First, thanks for digging this up. Yup, you read that right Smurf!!

Now, I knew...as you did...this was how they were implementing Quick Chat. This is really lame. Imagine this in town with 50 people standing around. Chat bubbles everywhere, overlapping each other. And only if you are turned in the correct direction to see these chat bubbles. Also, distance...if you are close enough.

Then you'll have those that just spam the largest phrase over and over trying to cover up others chat bubbles. Happened in wow, this is why it was short-lived. Turned it off quick.

And the phrases...really? That's what we are starting with? There are so many that never will get used. 'Tank the Boss'?? LOL if you have to select that during a fight, first...the tank isn't facing you to see that depending on the boss...and second, you're already dead if you are trying to get that quickchat off and getting into the view of the supposed tank.

It's just a poor alternative to a regular text chatbox. I'm done arguing that though.

Oh my...I just found the abuse of this system by console players in a certain age group....

I'm going to leave it to your imagination....but just use some of these quotes to form a chat bubble barrage.

I see the following possible combination of quick chats from the available options.

Hello. Get close. Spread out. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Good job. Goodbye. Self-congratulate.

You nailed it....ohh...duh. Yea..you got it. /facepalm at this chat wheel

Uberkull

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

I hate bubbles, especially in non-cartoony games,but I'll deal.

Bubbles vs chat box (just the visual presentation)

Isn't it the same with a different position on the screen ?
AND it doesn't stay on the screen blocking your view

Pre-typed text vs manual typing
-Huge difference as far as time and simplifies interactions

Huh? No, they look atrocious and pop up at random at various spots on the screen, while having no real communication value as people can't actually type out what they want to say with a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse as both consoles officially support in the first place. So now not only do we have randomly pre-set phrase bubbles that appear/disappear at various spots, but still no text communication for trade or chat. Comparatively the chat box could be minimized at will already anyways, could already fade away when not in use on the PC (including the box and text inside of it), etc. and was far superior. Unfortunately, this is another example of fixing what isn't broken... on the PC they pulled out the minimap options, seeing how much damage you're even hitting for or is on your health bar, etc. Now they've just taken the whole thing a step further for the worse with the console ports.... .

Yup. They over-engineered a solution that won't work at all in zone chat or pvp, instead of just leaving text chat in. You can minimize text chat on PC, you could do it on console.

And no matter what phrases you add to this quick chat system, you can't see them across the Cyrodiil battlefield. This chat wheel only barely works for towns and dungeons. Even then, it's directional, you have to be turned in the general direction of the player to see that chat bubble over their head. For first person view players, enjoy this experience. LOL

Then there will be that one guy that spams the chat bubbles, just because he can. Try an minimize that...

Pallmor

I love the idea of built-in voice chat. But their insistence that text chat also not be an option *AT ALL* is just--bizarre.

Vulsahdaal

What I dont understand in this system is how are we supposed to sell anything? Right now Id say about 5% of my sales are through guild stores, the other 95% are zone chat..But I cant even count on that 5% there, because how am I to find a guild to join without having a chatbox?
Are we just supposed to walk up to random people nearby to us and just ask them if they know a guild looking for members? No, wait I cant do that either. Im a 40 something yr old female and my main character is an Imperial male nb..well at least we are both same age group but still, even with lowering my voice, I dont think I will be able to pull that one off lol
And what if I need a research item or whatever not to found in a guild store? How would one find it without zone chat?
Of course on midnight opening day I will be there, but I am both curious and concerned how these things are going to be dealt with? Just guessing now, but I am thinking either-
1) the game will become more like a single player game, with little socializing other than small parties of friends and/or
2) guilds will have very minimum influence in the game and instead we will somewhere down the line see a form of auction house to show up for consoles only..
Just guesses at this point, but Ill give it a chance to see how they plan to address these issues..

pecheckler

Still no:

Zone-wide: Help me with [x] dolmen or boss.
Guild-wide: WTB/WTS [x] item
Method of forming 12-man groups.
Zone-wide: PvP coordination.

These quick chat feature is a simple band-aid. I just don't get why we can't have full text chat in a guild. Make it optional. Serious traders MUST have a way to trade outside of voice chat and guild stores. Maybe not a big issue at launch since PC to console transfers can find ways to communicate elsewhere until chat or trade features are released... but once the majority of players start hitting VR ranks and there is still no good method of trading this game is gonna be in big trouble.

Also, the cycle quest button is a waste. Nobody is going to use it. Please let that be the first target for the inevitable key-rebinding feature.

nastuug

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

Speaking of Emotes/Abbreviations/Misinterpretations....

When my Grandad died, my mum sent me an email letting me know. She finished with...

I know he will be resting well now,
LOL
Mum

Took me a few seconds to realise she meant "lots of love"

Some in my family do that too...

nastuug

Moderator note: Removed per our rules on bashing.

Kalifas

pecheckler wrote: »

Still no:

Zone-wide: Help me with [x] dolmen or boss.
Guild-wide: WTB/WTS [x] item
Method of forming 12-man groups.
Zone-wide: PvP coordination.

These quick chat feature is a simple band-aid. I just don't get why we can't have full text chat in a guild. Make it optional. Serious traders MUST have a way to trade outside of voice chat and guild stores. Maybe not a big issue at launch since PC to console transfers can find ways to communicate elsewhere until chat or trade features are released... but once the majority of players start hitting VR ranks and there is still no good method of trading this game is gonna be in big trouble.

Also, the cycle quest button is a waste. Nobody is going to use it. Please let that be the first target for the inevitable key-rebinding feature.

Each individual will see something as waste or boon. But since they will be different views I think there should be a full rebinding option for consoles/pc controller so users can custom bind to their preference.

The custom chat and voice only is either going to be praised in reviews or drop the scores faster than a 2 dolla ***. Nonetheless, we two weeks to console launch. If something ain't in game now, it won't be added in two weeks before launch.

Ojustaboo

Those phrases offer no help to pvp at all.

I'm prepared to go in with an open mind, but I really really can't see pvp working without faction wide chat.p

They could do something with a chat wheel whereby you quickly select mine, keep etc, then it's name from a list (there aren't that many names in Cyrodiil) then under siege, then by which faction etc. Maybe having pvp chat channels available that a group can create, but also invite people from other groups.

This would stop chat abuse and allow various groups to all coordinate together.