Oh ZoS - You have let us down!

Genomic

You know, a company will only advertise if it works. So my suggestion would be to unsub and/or not buy the things they are spruiking. If they saw a sudden drop in subs each time that yellow text appeared, they would get the message. Then you can re-sub when they stop this behaviour. This is your real power as a customer, and has far more influence than complaining about it on a forum.

Ser Lobo

Genomic wrote: »

You know, a company will only advertise if it works. So my suggestion would be to unsub and/or not buy the things they are spruiking. If they saw a sudden drop in subs each time that yellow text appeared, they would get the message. Then you can re-sub when they stop this behaviour. This is your real power as a customer, and has far more influence than complaining about it on a forum.

I actually disagree with this. They are more likely to respond to public outcry, in my opinion, than waiting three months for marketing to come back with metrics which someone may or may not relate to the cost of tea in China.

I deal with marketing experts all day long. Oftentimes, they have no fricking clue what's happening on the customers end.

Sir_Xalvador

i as well do not like the advertising coming across the screen it is very distracting trying to read it and just to find out its for the crown store come on zos you do enough of that on the launcher.

Genomic

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Genomic wrote: »

You know, a company will only advertise if it works. So my suggestion would be to unsub and/or not buy the things they are spruiking. If they saw a sudden drop in subs each time that yellow text appeared, they would get the message. Then you can re-sub when they stop this behaviour. This is your real power as a customer, and has far more influence than complaining about it on a forum.

I actually disagree with this. They are more likely to respond to public outcry, in my opinion, than waiting three months for marketing to come back with metrics which someone may or may not relate to the cost of tea in China.

I deal with marketing experts all day long. Oftentimes, they have no fricking clue what's happening on the customers end.

Hehe. OK, I believe you regarding marketers. Still though, ZOS will eventually receive some sort of metric as to the effectiveness of their advertising. If the ads increase revenue, expect to see them more often.

StaticWax

More messages please.

Taleof2Cities

I like how the OP flashed the German advertisement. Brings back fond memories of release when the wyrd elementals only spoke in German during the wyrd tree quest (N/A server). It was adding to the immersion ... until ZOS changed the dialogue to English ... matching it to the English text.

Moonshadow66

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

I like how the OP flashed the German advertisement. Brings back fond memories of release when the wyrd elementals only spoke in German during the wyrd tree quest (N/A server). It was adding to the immersion ... until ZOS changed the dialogue to English ... matching it to the English text.

I still hear some German on the NA server, sometimes. I think it was either in Riften or in Windhelm at the crafting stations building where some woman said "hallo" instead of "hello", and even a whole sentence I've heard somewhere else, I can't remember where exactly. I am German, so it's kinda funny to hear something in my own language every now and then^^

EQBallzz

Welcome to the world of F2P/B2P everyone. Some of us warned what would happen if we went away from subs but NOOoooooooo..everyone just has to have everything "free". Well this is your answer to free. There is no free ride. This is just the start so enjoy Neverwinter Scrolls Online. Who wants casino boxes? Coming soon to a cash shop near you.

Neverwinter is coming.

Ser Lobo

EQBallzz wrote: »

Welcome to the world of F2P/B2P everyone. Some of us warned what would happen if we went away from subs but NOOoooooooo..everyone just has to have everything "free". Well this is your answer to free. There is no free ride. This is just the start so enjoy Neverwinter Scrolls Online. Who wants casino boxes? Coming soon to a cash shop near you.

Neverwinter is coming.

Hahahah ...

I honestly can see us getting lottery boxes very soon, and keys to match.

I mean, already they have all the spam and pricing scheme of Neverwinter. IF I can get ESO to update as quickly as Neverwinter, then I think I'd count it as a win to see lockbox spam on the screen, especially since it's sad to say but ZOS is far better at bug fixing than Cryptic.

Moonshadow66

Earlier in this thread I wrote that I never saw this yellow text, then it turned out it might have been that "NoThankYou" addon that prevents that text showing up on screen. Now I was playing with a different character and I did see that text in the middle of the screen AND in the chat at the same time. Not sure why..

I have to say it didn't bother me too much as I was just running around in Coldharbour (zone) when it popped up, but I can understand why others are extremely annoyed when this happens for example during combat.

Jules

EQBallzz wrote: »

Neverwinter is coming.

I see wut you did dere.

Moonshadow66

EQBallzz wrote: »

Welcome to the world of F2P/B2P everyone. Some of us warned what would happen if we went away from subs but NOOoooooooo..everyone just has to have everything "free". Well this is your answer to free. There is no free ride. This is just the start so enjoy Neverwinter Scrolls Online. Who wants casino boxes? Coming soon to a cash shop near you.

Neverwinter is coming.

Uhm, it's not like we asked for F2P/B2P... Many of us (such as myself) were against it.

Destai

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, thanks for your feedback. We want to make sure everyone is aware that the Senche-Leopard is available - and only for a short time - so nobody misses out on the opportunity. We only plan on messaging this once per day, and want to hit each language (EN, DE, and FR) as these are multilingual megaservers.

Absolutely unacceptable. It's not about making sure people don't miss out as you put it - it's about respecting the gaming experience of your CUSTOMERS.

Shame on whoever thought of this.

Destai

ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »

I love how they do this crap on the weekend, or right close to the end of the workday on Friday (and then lock all threads except one). Stay classy. Or not. You lost my sub because of this. Proof:

*slowclap*

Bravo.

BloodStorm

I bet the people complaining about immersion and enjoyment of the game have a screen full of addons, hahahaha. Personally I cannot wait for Ps4 release. Instant group voice chat and more immersion. Once a day server posts are fine. It is an MMO and also only a year old.

Destai

Sylvyr wrote: »

One other factor/perspective in all this.

I expect cheesy stuff like this if I were to play a game like facebook mafia wars or farmville or what have you. Over the last few years tons of these catchy mainstream cheese games have popped up everywhere. Free to play! But you can get stronger allies for $4.99! And this concept, "microtransaction", has shown up in games that aren't cheesy, but big production titles like Diablo or the hordes that have gone this way.

Elder scrolls goes way back before all that crap. When the game was about being awesome. Sure it was about making money too, which naturally came from an awesome game. But not to the extent we are seeing in ESO:Farmville. It's big money. Video games used to be a niche thing, but now that it has grown so big and it's not just for nerds and geeks anymore it has the attention of big business, which is only in it for more money, more power.

Kind of like the internet. It used to be some little academic project, slowly grew, and after big business got into it, we got cookies that learn about us, we get "tailored" ads, we got email services that read our emails for marketing purposes, we get email spam every day, and on and on....

Just kinda sad TES is now in this boat.

I was reallllllly looking forward to Fallout Online. Fallout series was one of my all time favs. But if Zeni has anything to do with it, no way.

Don't forget, they're giving players choices! Tasty choices! We all like ala carte!

It's sickening.

Destai

Rosveen wrote: »

grimsfield wrote: »

I really can't imagine a worse answer. Its like you've completely ignored everything everyone has been saying and just continued to state your advertisement. It's almost as bad as the initial response ZoS sends us when we submit a ticket.

It's her job to defend this, what can she do?

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

Maybe admit it's irked a lot of people off?

Oh, and not reiterate the same advertisement that people are mad about.

C0pp3rhead

These messages popped up while my group was in the middle of storming a keep. I'm trying to focus my damage on low health bars, and drop heals on my teammates when THIS crap pops up? You've got to be kidding me, ZO$.

Destai

Only ads I care to check are on the launcher. I can tolerate it as text in the chat (periodically). Heck, I wouldn't mind seeing what's on sale buying going to some writ board. That's ok too.

None of those are immersion breaking or distracting from the actual gameplay experience.

Elijah_Crow

Wow. Just wow. The Audacity to believe you can dictate to ZOS how they can and cannot market.

This...this is your complaint? You group are lucky they have more patience than I or I would have just ended your ability to play the game for approaching this with the kind of attitude the OP displayed.

Wolfshead

So i get this right OP and most of you are *** off for get "advertising" in game??

Just one question do you also go to tv-stations forum as well and whine everytime the send advertising when you are watch your favo tv show/series as well?

I understand it is game and that people dont want in game and maybe ZoS should maybe start send email tell people that special offer the have in store.

Elijah_Crow

ZOS, I think you should test for a weekend once an hour at least.

You are continuing to work hard to advance the game, and we appreciate the hard work. When your existing community has an outcry, it's good to pay attention, but not always best to take it to heart. Remember many of them have their own best interests in mind, and not necessarily what is good for the survival of the game.

Do what you need to be successful as long as it doesn't significantly effect gameplay. This in my opinion is at most a minor annoyance for some and a pleasant reminder for others. If you can find a happy medium then great.

I will continue to renew my subscription and I just subscribed my brothers account as he has started playing again.

Moonshadow66

Maybe ZOS should pop a yellow warning/announcement that in 5 minutes the Senche ad will show up, so that all players can stay out of combat during that time

Destai

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Wow. Just wow. The Audacity to believe you can dictate to ZOS how they can and cannot market.

This...this is your complaint? You group are lucky they have more patience than I or I would have just ended your ability to play the game for approaching this with the kind of attitude the OP displayed.

Cool and then their game can falter even more. You're in the minority. There's a reason for that.

This isn't about entitlement. This is about customers airing legitimate grievances and wanting the experience they're paying for - immersion in a fantasy world - to be respected. They can be draconic. We can patronize another company. The choice is theirs.

Destai

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

ZOS, I think you should test for a weekend once an hour at least.

You are continuing to work hard to advance the game, and we appreciate the hard work. When your existing community has an outcry, it's good to pay attention, but not always best to take it to heart. Remember many of them have their own best interests in mind, and not necessarily what is good for the survival of the game.

Do what you need to be successful as long as it doesn't significantly effect gameplay. This in my opinion is at most a minor annoyance for some and a pleasant reminder for others. If you can find a happy medium then great.

I will continue to renew my subscription and I just subscribed my brothers account as he has started playing again.

And boy, wouldn't it be great if those who did find it annoying had their choices respected?

Hmm. Fascinating concept.

And this does impact gameplay. Directly so - it's a distraction and an immersion. I can't think of a better example of something impacting gameplay short of actual performance issues.

Oh, wait. Those haven't been fixed yet, have they?

Steinschlag

I think they do this, cause many ppl (me too) starts eso with the exe and don' t use the patcher. But ZOS if someone wanna know whats in the store, he will look by himself. AND Player talk to each other.

Noone needs Display- Messages like this. The negative effect is much bigger then the positiv i think. So pls, stop this in future.

Genomic

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Wow. Just wow. The Audacity to believe you can dictate to ZOS how they can and cannot market.

This...this is your complaint? You group are lucky they have more patience than I or I would have just ended your ability to play the game for approaching this with the kind of attitude the OP displayed.

Ugh, how nauseatingly sycophantic. You're a marketers wet dream. ZOS is a business, and like any business they need to please their customers. If they acted as arrogantly as you suggest they should, ignoring customer feedback because those peasants weren't grateful enough, they'd go out of business very quickly.

Moonshadow66

Destai wrote: »

Only ads I care to check are on the launcher. I can tolerate it as text in the chat (periodically). Heck, I wouldn't mind seeing what's on sale buying going to some writ board. That's ok too.

None of those are immersion breaking or distracting from the actual gameplay experience.

This is awesome! Actually, this would even ADD to immersion. I hope the devs will see your post and consider implementing it

Elijah_Crow

Destai wrote: »

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

ZOS, I think you should test for a weekend once an hour at least.

You are continuing to work hard to advance the game, and we appreciate the hard work. When your existing community has an outcry, it's good to pay attention, but not always best to take it to heart. Remember many of them have their own best interests in mind, and not necessarily what is good for the survival of the game.

Do what you need to be successful as long as it doesn't significantly effect gameplay. This in my opinion is at most a minor annoyance for some and a pleasant reminder for others. If you can find a happy medium then great.

I will continue to renew my subscription and I just subscribed my brothers account as he has started playing again.

And boy, wouldn't it be great if those who did find it annoying had their choices respected?

Hmm. Fascinating concept.

And this does impact gameplay. Directly so - it's a distraction and an immersion. I can't think of a better example of something impacting gameplay short of actual performance issues.

Oh, wait. Those haven't been fixed yet, have they?

Please link your posts complaining to youtube for advertising. While your at it, what about all those emails you send to countless tv and radio stations complaining that you're going to stop listening or watching unless you get your way.

The hard truth is that ESO can embrace this monetization model and advertise occasionally to its players. Do you want to see the game continue? I do and I will support this kind of advertising to their customers. You are lucky they have chosen to limit it at all.

EQBallzz

Genomic wrote: »

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Wow. Just wow. The Audacity to believe you can dictate to ZOS how they can and cannot market.

This...this is your complaint? You group are lucky they have more patience than I or I would have just ended your ability to play the game for approaching this with the kind of attitude the OP displayed.

Ugh, how nauseatingly sycophantic. You're a marketers wet dream. ZOS is a business, and like any business they need to please their customers. If they acted as arrogantly as you suggest they should, ignoring customer feedback because those peasants weren't grateful enough, they'd go out of business very quickly.

Couldn't agree more.