Is there a dominant class in PvP?

Asgari

A dominant class is situational i.e. DKs are good against in mass melees, Sorcerers are good at kiting/gank, Nightblades are only good at ganking, Templars are the best healers.

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Nightblades represent! Bow down Monkey Knights!

I think I see what you did there with putting bows down ..

Sanct16

A dominant class is situational i.e. DKs are good against in mass melees, Sorcerers are good at kiting/gank, Nightblades are only good at ganking, Templars are the best healers.

Kromus wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

You can say it depends on the player all you want. I have never seen anyone in any other class come anywhere remotely close to having the survivability of a DK.

1 DK tanking 5-10 people all focusing on it, and the fight lasts for a solid 45 seconds - 1 minute. Any other class is dead in 5 seconds, I don't care how many blazing shields you spam.

You need to come to Cyordiil more often and see nightblades use sap essence/veil of blades and Templars with their standard-issue blazing shields.

Sorcs, on the other hand, yep just bolt away

Would you care to share which abilities you would use as melee Templar under focused fire of 3-5+ players or which abilities you would use in same situation when playing other classes? Or even in which situation you see Templars spamming BS?

Charge + Blazing Shield + Devouring Swarm/Empowering Sweep as Templar.
Sap Essence + Clouding Swarm/Veil of Blades as Nightblade.
Crit Surge + Clouding Swarm + Elemental Ring as Sorceror.

With all these builds you will be able to kill those guys who are unable to kill a DK in a 10v1. The reason for that is that they suck at this game, not that DK is OP. If those 5-10 player would spread and heavy resto attack the DK, he would just melt.

Sharee

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

Sanct16 wrote: »

Kromus wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

You can say it depends on the player all you want. I have never seen anyone in any other class come anywhere remotely close to having the survivability of a DK.

1 DK tanking 5-10 people all focusing on it, and the fight lasts for a solid 45 seconds - 1 minute. Any other class is dead in 5 seconds, I don't care how many blazing shields you spam.

You need to come to Cyordiil more often and see nightblades use sap essence/veil of blades and Templars with their standard-issue blazing shields.

Sorcs, on the other hand, yep just bolt away

Would you care to share which abilities you would use as melee Templar under focused fire of 3-5+ players or which abilities you would use in same situation when playing other classes? Or even in which situation you see Templars spamming BS?

Charge + Blazing Shield + Devouring Swarm/Empowering Sweep as Templar.
Sap Essence + Clouding Swarm/Veil of Blades as Nightblade.
Crit Surge + Clouding Swarm + Elemental Ring as Sorceror.

With all these builds you will be able to kill those guys who are unable to kill a DK in a 10v1. The reason for that is that they suck at this game, not that DK is OP. If those 5-10 player would spread and heavy resto attack the DK, he would just melt.

You heard it here first: to kill a DK with 5-10 people, you have to tickle him to death.

ToRelax

Sharee wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Kromus wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

You can say it depends on the player all you want. I have never seen anyone in any other class come anywhere remotely close to having the survivability of a DK.

1 DK tanking 5-10 people all focusing on it, and the fight lasts for a solid 45 seconds - 1 minute. Any other class is dead in 5 seconds, I don't care how many blazing shields you spam.

You need to come to Cyordiil more often and see nightblades use sap essence/veil of blades and Templars with their standard-issue blazing shields.

Sorcs, on the other hand, yep just bolt away

Would you care to share which abilities you would use as melee Templar under focused fire of 3-5+ players or which abilities you would use in same situation when playing other classes? Or even in which situation you see Templars spamming BS?

Charge + Blazing Shield + Devouring Swarm/Empowering Sweep as Templar.
Sap Essence + Clouding Swarm/Veil of Blades as Nightblade.
Crit Surge + Clouding Swarm + Elemental Ring as Sorceror.

With all these builds you will be able to kill those guys who are unable to kill a DK in a 10v1. The reason for that is that they suck at this game, not that DK is OP. If those 5-10 player would spread and heavy resto attack the DK, he would just melt.

You heard it here first: to kill a DK with 5-10 people, you have to tickle him to death.

You can not turn that argument. That a DK won't survive 5-10 people using only heavy resto attacks on him does not mean he would survive anything else.

eliisra

Sanct16 wrote: »

Charge + Blazing Shield + Devouring Swarm/Empowering Sweep as Templar.
Sap Essence + Clouding Swarm/Veil of Blades as Nightblade.
Crit Surge + Clouding Swarm + Elemental Ring as Sorceror.

Please...you can't realistically face-tank multiple bow users with Blazing shield, Ward, Crit Surge or Empowering Sweep. Sweep deals 0 dmg and hits like 1 target, due to radius the size of a postage stamp. Crit surge only heals you when fighting PvE'ers dressed in glowy orbs and trial gear.

You also need to get in range to gap close. Have fun running 15 meters towards the enemy without Scales up.

Only build that still works okayish for crowd-diving is NB sap, even if the dps is so-so.

It's all the stamina ranged, combined with the massive nerf to Harness. You need either endless blocking with Siphoning attacks + Sap or be a DK with Scales. But they're talking about nerfing both in 1.6. I assume ZoS dislikes players staying alive longer than a few seconds.

Lava_Croft

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

TL;DR 1vX only works as a Vampire because being a Vampire has so many downsides.

Wait. What?

TheBull

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

So 44% of the people play DKs? Am I reading this right?

KBKB

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

TheBull wrote: »

So 44% of the people play DKs? Am I reading this right?

I'm enjoying the counter arguments, "yeah if you're a vamp in a group of 10 you can counter a DK we aren't OP"

Cody

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

Sanct16 wrote: »

Kromus wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

You can say it depends on the player all you want. I have never seen anyone in any other class come anywhere remotely close to having the survivability of a DK.

1 DK tanking 5-10 people all focusing on it, and the fight lasts for a solid 45 seconds - 1 minute. Any other class is dead in 5 seconds, I don't care how many blazing shields you spam.

You need to come to Cyordiil more often and see nightblades use sap essence/veil of blades and Templars with their standard-issue blazing shields.

Sorcs, on the other hand, yep just bolt away

Would you care to share which abilities you would use as melee Templar under focused fire of 3-5+ players or which abilities you would use in same situation when playing other classes? Or even in which situation you see Templars spamming BS?

Charge + Blazing Shield + Devouring Swarm/Empowering Sweep as Templar.
Sap Essence + Clouding Swarm/Veil of Blades as Nightblade.
Crit Surge + Clouding Swarm + Elemental Ring as Sorceror.

With all these builds you will be able to kill those guys who are unable to kill a DK in a 10v1. The reason for that is that they suck at this game, not that DK is OP. If those 5-10 player would spread and heavy resto attack the DK, he would just melt.

If only DKs just stood there and let us heavy attack them to death.....

if only DKs just stood inside your batswarm.....

if only DKs did not have acess to perma block casting the best instant self-heal in the game to negate almost all the damage you could cause....

So i must now completly abandon my build and start using a resto staff along with 4 others just to kill ONE DK?

Yeah, i agree, the DK is balanced...

/end of sarcasm which im sure i spelled wrong

Nicko_Lps

Cody wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Yeah DK is the dominant class on pvp

And not a nightblade:

-When he has an ultimate that needs 50 ulti points/deals 800+ damage/buffs 20% ALL the next attacks for 6 sec/passively increases while slotted ulti gains.
-When he gets ulti by healing him self
-When he gets 30% more from all pots
-When he removes 4 negative effects when he dissapear or...100% crit chance...
-When he has an ulti that allows him to take 75% reduced damage and cause a very nice damage
-When he has a life stealing ultimate that deals alot of damage and stun AoE
-When he has the only NON BLOCKABLE cc in this game(so lol)
-When he has double shades to run all your stamina in 1 minute add carltrops add fear DK wont have stamina in 10 sec
-When he has the option to deal less damage and constantly refill stamina and magica
-When he has the best execute ability in this game
-When he can deal a nice damage and reduce BOTH enemy armor and resistances by 40%
-When he has a ranged dps attack that allows him to damage/heal over time and receive ultimate from heals to himself
-When he can do a nice AoE damage that HEALS him.(jesus let me think what else..)
-And finally when he does the best AoE damage in this game that: increases his weapon damage based on targets hit then dealing a GOOD AoE damage and then HEALS him and give him ultimate for both crits he did and heals he did?

Sorry about the copy paste of my post,but you sould read a bit about it nightblade whiners and tell us what better DK has against YOU and if you cant kill a DK in less than a minute u definantly are a L2P case.

Also if you see a DK trying to 1vsX go fear him once or twice keep him rooted make him hug one blazing shield and stay away from him.<--NON L2P case

All of that looks good typed out, but you should actually test all of it in glorious battle.

I will give you the double shades, veil of blades(pretty much all the ultimates) the potions passive, fear(for now, soon the block and casters will have it made blockable by their never ending whining:() and the execute, but thats it.

The ranged HoT(i assume you mean strife, correct me if i'm wrong) only provides decent HoTs if you do a lot of damage to your enemy/ies. Thats hard to do when the majority of the playerbase blocks and casts almost everything they do, negating almost all of your damage. I myself just used it as an extra ranged ability, the HoT was never the reason.

Do not use the cloak morphs as an advantage for NBs. Cloak breaks more often than not, and im not even sure if the morphs actually work, last i heard they were bugged.

I guess i can give you siphoning strikes as well, i find it a decent ability:)

Last i checked, all classes can charge ultimate by healing.

idk what to say about NBs doing the best AOe damage in the game. I personally think that is complete nonsense, but I am not a sap essence user/spammer, so idk what its capability is.

Just for your information,i have a nightblade as my main and a DK that i made after.I know whats the nightblade playstyle and the DK playstyle..

Why you dont try to make a GOD/DK just to see how DK's are buddy?
If your build is a stamina build you cant compaire with a templar/sorc/dk/NB magica build on pvp you sould know that so...the problem is your build not the dk

Soulac wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Yeah DK is the dominant class on pvp

And not a nightblade:

-When he has an ultimate that needs 50 ulti points/deals 800+ damage/buffs 20% ALL the next attacks for 6 sec/passively increases while slotted ulti gains.
-When he gets ulti by healing him self
-When he gets 30% more from all pots
-When he removes 4 negative effects when he dissapear or...100% crit chance...
-When he has an ulti that allows him to take 75% reduced damage and cause a very nice damage
-When he has a life stealing ultimate that deals alot of damage and stun AoE
-When he has the only NON BLOCKABLE cc in this game(so lol)
-When he has double shades to run all your stamina in 1 minute add carltrops add fear DK wont have stamina in 10 sec
-When he has the option to deal less damage and constantly refill stamina and magica
-When he has the best execute ability in this game
-When he can deal a nice damage and reduce BOTH enemy armor and resistances by 40%
-When he has a ranged dps attack that allows him to damage/heal over time and receive ultimate from heals to himself
-When he can do a nice AoE damage that HEALS him.(jesus let me think what else..)
-And finally when he does the best AoE damage in this game that: increases his weapon damage based on targets hit then dealing a GOOD AoE damage and then HEALS him and give him ultimate for both crits he did and heals he did?

Sorry about the copy paste of my post,but you sould read a bit about it nightblade whiners and tell us what better DK has against YOU and if you cant kill a DK in less than a minute u definantly are a L2P case.

Also if you see a DK trying to 1vsX go fear him once or twice keep him rooted make him hug one blazing shield and stay away from him.<--NON L2P case

Im dealing with it...Nighblades dont deal with it and cry cry here on the forms.

That is pretty obvious.

Soulac

A dominant class is situational i.e. DKs are good against in mass melees, Sorcerers are good at kiting/gank, Nightblades are only good at ganking, Templars are the best healers.

I don't cry at all and I'm a NB, did I miss something?

Nicko_Lps

Cody wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Yeah DK is the dominant class on pvp

And not a nightblade:

-When he has an ultimate that needs 50 ulti points/deals 800+ damage/buffs 20% ALL the next attacks for 6 sec/passively increases while slotted ulti gains.
-When he gets ulti by healing him self
-When he gets 30% more from all pots
-When he removes 4 negative effects when he dissapear or...100% crit chance...
-When he has an ulti that allows him to take 75% reduced damage and cause a very nice damage
-When he has a life stealing ultimate that deals alot of damage and stun AoE
-When he has the only NON BLOCKABLE cc in this game(so lol)
-When he has double shades to run all your stamina in 1 minute add carltrops add fear DK wont have stamina in 10 sec
-When he has the option to deal less damage and constantly refill stamina and magica
-When he has the best execute ability in this game
-When he can deal a nice damage and reduce BOTH enemy armor and resistances by 40%
-When he has a ranged dps attack that allows him to damage/heal over time and receive ultimate from heals to himself
-When he can do a nice AoE damage that HEALS him.(jesus let me think what else..)
-And finally when he does the best AoE damage in this game that: increases his weapon damage based on targets hit then dealing a GOOD AoE damage and then HEALS him and give him ultimate for both crits he did and heals he did?

Sorry about the copy paste of my post,but you sould read a bit about it nightblade whiners and tell us what better DK has against YOU and if you cant kill a DK in less than a minute u definantly are a L2P case.

Also if you see a DK trying to 1vsX go fear him once or twice keep him rooted make him hug one blazing shield and stay away from him.<--NON L2P case

All of that looks good typed out, but you should actually test all of it in glorious battle.

I will give you the double shades, veil of blades(pretty much all the ultimates) the potions passive, fear(for now, soon the block and casters will have it made blockable by their never ending whining:() and the execute, but thats it.

The ranged HoT(i assume you mean strife, correct me if i'm wrong) only provides decent HoTs if you do a lot of damage to your enemy/ies. Thats hard to do when the majority of the playerbase blocks and casts almost everything they do, negating almost all of your damage. I myself just used it as an extra ranged ability, the HoT was never the reason.

Do not use the cloak morphs as an advantage for NBs. Cloak breaks more often than not, and im not even sure if the morphs actually work, last i heard they were bugged.

I guess i can give you siphoning strikes as well, i find it a decent ability:)

Last i checked, all classes can charge ultimate by healing.

idk what to say about NBs doing the best AOe damage in the game. I personally think that is complete nonsense, but I am not a sap essence user/spammer, so idk what its capability is.

I have both nightblade and dk,actually my main is a nightblade in case i forgot to mention. I dont like class nerfs and specially to the 2 classes i have.
Your problem is that you trying to go against magica builds with your stamina build. I also suggest you to try out the GOD DK yourselfs and then let me know what you can do with it.

There are better players from us always,might be dk might be nightblade might be sorcs might be templars,if you cant kill them its not your class fault.

Might be your fault?

Nicko_Lps

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Nightblades represent! Bow down Monkey Knights!

That kriss/lava_croft... Is THE beacon of hope for the future of all nooblades.

Lava_Croft

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Nightblades represent! Bow down Monkey Knights!

That kriss/lava_croft... Is THE beacon of hope for the future of all nooblades.

I'll have you and your soft, dry skin for breakfast anytime!

Still waiting for the list of all the buffs that Nightblades received since launch.

PS: Naming, shaming and endless blaming, meet me in Cyrodiil and I'll do some maiming!

Soulac

A dominant class is situational i.e. DKs are good against in mass melees, Sorcerers are good at kiting/gank, Nightblades are only good at ganking, Templars are the best healers.

Permanent Stamina Reg bonus
Death Stroke ultimate dmg boost
Path of Darkness dmg boost
Haste (? Or was that just a fix?)
Spelldmg / weapon dmg passive in sneak
You could see the fix of sap as a buff too
Other fixes..

Nerfs..
Siphoning Strikes (lower Reg)
Strife (lower heal)
Sneak dmg (hits every class but NB at most in my opinion)
Soul Tether (no extra sneak ***)

I'm a NB and it seems fine, just fix my damn cloak.

Koensol

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

Funny to see that lots if DK players in this thread chose the bottom option. How surprising.

Lava_Croft

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

Soulac wrote: »

Permanent Stamina Reg bonus
Death Stroke ultimate dmg boost
Path of Darkness dmg boost
Haste (? Or was that just a fix?)
Spelldmg / weapon dmg passive in sneak
You could see the fix of sap as a buff too
Other fixes..

Nerfs..
Siphoning Strikes (lower Reg)
Strife (lower heal)
Sneak dmg (hits every class but NB at most in my opinion)
Soul Tether (no extra sneak ***)

I'm a NB and it seems fine, just fix my damn cloak.

Thank you for doing @Nicko_Lps‌' job! Haste was a fix (iirc).

NB's are fine by me too and yes they really should fix cloaking.

Nicko_Lps

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Nightblades represent! Bow down Monkey Knights!

That kriss/lava_croft... Is THE beacon of hope for the future of all nooblades.

I'll have you and your soft, dry skin for breakfast anytime!

Still waiting for the list of all the buffs that Nightblades received since launch.

PS: Naming, shaming and endless blaming, meet me in Cyrodiil and I'll do some maiming!

When i offered you the breakfast(me) away from npc's and from allies you were something like.. Errr not now errr maybe anothertime errrr when we meet again on random for sure errrr

I couldnt answer more then mate,classic symptom that happens to me when talking to you appeared again: my jaws started hurt from laughing overdose,sadly that is not a joke.

Also i had no idea you hide your game nick from forum nick, jesus
Grow up mate lol


Edit: shaming? Endless blaming? In case you have a weak memory that comment you call endless blaming is an exact copy of a comment you made back at me as i expressed my opinion on a poll and sisnce it was so classy and lovely i coppies you cause youre my forum idol-superstar lol,also i find always answers by you on my comments but i dont: PS+whiiiine

Lava_Croft

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

Your lack of a sense of humor is rivaled by your inability to write coherent posts.

I tried.

Subtomik

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

biting jabs will wreck any of you 1v1 come at me m7+1

Nicko_Lps

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Your lack of a sense of humor is rivaled by your inability to write coherent posts.

I tried.

If you say so..

It is.

Cody

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Yeah DK is the dominant class on pvp

And not a nightblade:

-When he has an ultimate that needs 50 ulti points/deals 800+ damage/buffs 20% ALL the next attacks for 6 sec/passively increases while slotted ulti gains.
-When he gets ulti by healing him self
-When he gets 30% more from all pots
-When he removes 4 negative effects when he dissapear or...100% crit chance...
-When he has an ulti that allows him to take 75% reduced damage and cause a very nice damage
-When he has a life stealing ultimate that deals alot of damage and stun AoE
-When he has the only NON BLOCKABLE cc in this game(so lol)
-When he has double shades to run all your stamina in 1 minute add carltrops add fear DK wont have stamina in 10 sec
-When he has the option to deal less damage and constantly refill stamina and magica
-When he has the best execute ability in this game
-When he can deal a nice damage and reduce BOTH enemy armor and resistances by 40%
-When he has a ranged dps attack that allows him to damage/heal over time and receive ultimate from heals to himself
-When he can do a nice AoE damage that HEALS him.(jesus let me think what else..)
-And finally when he does the best AoE damage in this game that: increases his weapon damage based on targets hit then dealing a GOOD AoE damage and then HEALS him and give him ultimate for both crits he did and heals he did?

Sorry about the copy paste of my post,but you sould read a bit about it nightblade whiners and tell us what better DK has against YOU and if you cant kill a DK in less than a minute u definantly are a L2P case.

Also if you see a DK trying to 1vsX go fear him once or twice keep him rooted make him hug one blazing shield and stay away from him.<--NON L2P case

All of that looks good typed out, but you should actually test all of it in glorious battle.

I will give you the double shades, veil of blades(pretty much all the ultimates) the potions passive, fear(for now, soon the block and casters will have it made blockable by their never ending whining:() and the execute, but thats it.

The ranged HoT(i assume you mean strife, correct me if i'm wrong) only provides decent HoTs if you do a lot of damage to your enemy/ies. Thats hard to do when the majority of the playerbase blocks and casts almost everything they do, negating almost all of your damage. I myself just used it as an extra ranged ability, the HoT was never the reason.

Do not use the cloak morphs as an advantage for NBs. Cloak breaks more often than not, and im not even sure if the morphs actually work, last i heard they were bugged.

I guess i can give you siphoning strikes as well, i find it a decent ability:)

Last i checked, all classes can charge ultimate by healing.

idk what to say about NBs doing the best AOe damage in the game. I personally think that is complete nonsense, but I am not a sap essence user/spammer, so idk what its capability is.

Just for your information,i have a nightblade as my main and a DK that i made after.I know whats the nightblade playstyle and the DK playstyle..

Why you dont try to make a GOD/DK just to see how DK's are buddy?
If your build is a stamina build you cant compaire with a templar/sorc/dk/NB magica build on pvp you sould know that so...the problem is your build not the dk

Soulac wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Yeah DK is the dominant class on pvp

And not a nightblade:

-When he has an ultimate that needs 50 ulti points/deals 800+ damage/buffs 20% ALL the next attacks for 6 sec/passively increases while slotted ulti gains.
-When he gets ulti by healing him self
-When he gets 30% more from all pots
-When he removes 4 negative effects when he dissapear or...100% crit chance...
-When he has an ulti that allows him to take 75% reduced damage and cause a very nice damage
-When he has a life stealing ultimate that deals alot of damage and stun AoE
-When he has the only NON BLOCKABLE cc in this game(so lol)
-When he has double shades to run all your stamina in 1 minute add carltrops add fear DK wont have stamina in 10 sec
-When he has the option to deal less damage and constantly refill stamina and magica
-When he has the best execute ability in this game
-When he can deal a nice damage and reduce BOTH enemy armor and resistances by 40%
-When he has a ranged dps attack that allows him to damage/heal over time and receive ultimate from heals to himself
-When he can do a nice AoE damage that HEALS him.(jesus let me think what else..)
-And finally when he does the best AoE damage in this game that: increases his weapon damage based on targets hit then dealing a GOOD AoE damage and then HEALS him and give him ultimate for both crits he did and heals he did?

Sorry about the copy paste of my post,but you sould read a bit about it nightblade whiners and tell us what better DK has against YOU and if you cant kill a DK in less than a minute u definantly are a L2P case.

Also if you see a DK trying to 1vsX go fear him once or twice keep him rooted make him hug one blazing shield and stay away from him.<--NON L2P case

Im dealing with it...Nighblades dont deal with it and cry cry here on the forms.

That is pretty obvious.

I know my build has something to do with it.. for sithis sake i have spent the last 3 months trying to find a way to take on DKs without resortng to insta ganking them, i know it has something to do with my build. even now i continue to experiment with it. and i can and WILL compare stamina builds with magicka builds, because stamina builds are overall inferiror to magicka builds right now. dang right ill compare them.


the NB is not the dominant class. I know, based on your response, that you wont listen,(and honestly, i did not want to reply in the first place as i know exactly how this is going to play out, but im bored, so screw it) but the DK is the dominant class.

DKs have the best instant self heals, they have damage shields, the ability to reflect most of the ranged abilties in the game(and no i am not whining about RS, merely stating the abilties exsistence) they have great ultimates(not saying NBs dont) high DPS, high defense... the only thing they don't have is the best healing specs in the game. Why do you think most of the population plays the DK to begin with? It sure as heck isn't because most of the populaiton just loves the class more than the other three.

I have been around since beta, I have seen how people play this game, iv even tried some of these playstyles myself.

Yes there are NBs that whine too much and that request ridiculous changes to the class(one time someone wanted shadow cloak to last 20 seconds:/) but there are also many NBs that have simply taken an active involvment in the classes future. If you want to talk about whining and not dealing with it, why dont you go read up on all the rage posts from DKs about the up-coming change for Reflective Scales???? Not all of them are pure QQ threads, but i promise you, you will see a great many.

Nicko_Lps

Cody wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Yeah DK is the dominant class on pvp

And not a nightblade:

-When he has an ultimate that needs 50 ulti points/deals 800+ damage/buffs 20% ALL the next attacks for 6 sec/passively increases while slotted ulti gains.
-When he gets ulti by healing him self
-When he gets 30% more from all pots
-When he removes 4 negative effects when he dissapear or...100% crit chance...
-When he has an ulti that allows him to take 75% reduced damage and cause a very nice damage
-When he has a life stealing ultimate that deals alot of damage and stun AoE
-When he has the only NON BLOCKABLE cc in this game(so lol)
-When he has double shades to run all your stamina in 1 minute add carltrops add fear DK wont have stamina in 10 sec
-When he has the option to deal less damage and constantly refill stamina and magica
-When he has the best execute ability in this game
-When he can deal a nice damage and reduce BOTH enemy armor and resistances by 40%
-When he has a ranged dps attack that allows him to damage/heal over time and receive ultimate from heals to himself
-When he can do a nice AoE damage that HEALS him.(jesus let me think what else..)
-And finally when he does the best AoE damage in this game that: increases his weapon damage based on targets hit then dealing a GOOD AoE damage and then HEALS him and give him ultimate for both crits he did and heals he did?

Sorry about the copy paste of my post,but you sould read a bit about it nightblade whiners and tell us what better DK has against YOU and if you cant kill a DK in less than a minute u definantly are a L2P case.

Also if you see a DK trying to 1vsX go fear him once or twice keep him rooted make him hug one blazing shield and stay away from him.<--NON L2P case

All of that looks good typed out, but you should actually test all of it in glorious battle.

I will give you the double shades, veil of blades(pretty much all the ultimates) the potions passive, fear(for now, soon the block and casters will have it made blockable by their never ending whining:() and the execute, but thats it.

The ranged HoT(i assume you mean strife, correct me if i'm wrong) only provides decent HoTs if you do a lot of damage to your enemy/ies. Thats hard to do when the majority of the playerbase blocks and casts almost everything they do, negating almost all of your damage. I myself just used it as an extra ranged ability, the HoT was never the reason.

Do not use the cloak morphs as an advantage for NBs. Cloak breaks more often than not, and im not even sure if the morphs actually work, last i heard they were bugged.

I guess i can give you siphoning strikes as well, i find it a decent ability:)

Last i checked, all classes can charge ultimate by healing.

idk what to say about NBs doing the best AOe damage in the game. I personally think that is complete nonsense, but I am not a sap essence user/spammer, so idk what its capability is.

Just for your information,i have a nightblade as my main and a DK that i made after.I know whats the nightblade playstyle and the DK playstyle..

Why you dont try to make a GOD/DK just to see how DK's are buddy?
If your build is a stamina build you cant compaire with a templar/sorc/dk/NB magica build on pvp you sould know that so...the problem is your build not the dk

Soulac wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Yeah DK is the dominant class on pvp

And not a nightblade:

-When he has an ultimate that needs 50 ulti points/deals 800+ damage/buffs 20% ALL the next attacks for 6 sec/passively increases while slotted ulti gains.
-When he gets ulti by healing him self
-When he gets 30% more from all pots
-When he removes 4 negative effects when he dissapear or...100% crit chance...
-When he has an ulti that allows him to take 75% reduced damage and cause a very nice damage
-When he has a life stealing ultimate that deals alot of damage and stun AoE
-When he has the only NON BLOCKABLE cc in this game(so lol)
-When he has double shades to run all your stamina in 1 minute add carltrops add fear DK wont have stamina in 10 sec
-When he has the option to deal less damage and constantly refill stamina and magica
-When he has the best execute ability in this game
-When he can deal a nice damage and reduce BOTH enemy armor and resistances by 40%
-When he has a ranged dps attack that allows him to damage/heal over time and receive ultimate from heals to himself
-When he can do a nice AoE damage that HEALS him.(jesus let me think what else..)
-And finally when he does the best AoE damage in this game that: increases his weapon damage based on targets hit then dealing a GOOD AoE damage and then HEALS him and give him ultimate for both crits he did and heals he did?

Sorry about the copy paste of my post,but you sould read a bit about it nightblade whiners and tell us what better DK has against YOU and if you cant kill a DK in less than a minute u definantly are a L2P case.

Also if you see a DK trying to 1vsX go fear him once or twice keep him rooted make him hug one blazing shield and stay away from him.<--NON L2P case

Im dealing with it...Nighblades dont deal with it and cry cry here on the forms.

That is pretty obvious.

I know my build has something to do with it.. for sithis sake i have spent the last 3 months trying to find a way to take on DKs without resortng to insta ganking them, i know it has something to do with my build. even now i continue to experiment with it. and i can and WILL compare stamina builds with magicka builds, because stamina builds are overall inferiror to magicka builds right now. dang right ill compare them.


the NB is not the dominant class. I know, based on your response, that you wont listen,(and honestly, i did not want to reply in the first place as i know exactly how this is going to play out, but im bored, so screw it) but the DK is the dominant class.

DKs have the best instant self heals, they have damage shields, the ability to reflect most of the ranged abilties in the game(and no i am not whining about RS, merely stating the abilties exsistence) they have great ultimates(not saying NBs dont) high DPS, high defense... the only thing they don't have is the best healing specs in the game. Why do you think most of the population plays the DK to begin with? It sure as heck isn't because most of the populaiton just loves the class more than the other three.

I have been around since beta, I have seen how people play this game, iv even tried some of these playstyles myself.

Yes there are NBs that whine too much and that request ridiculous changes to the class(one time someone wanted shadow cloak to last 20 seconds:/) but there are also many NBs that have simply taken an active involvment in the classes future. If you want to talk about whining and not dealing with it, why dont you go read up on all the rage posts from DKs about the up-coming change for Reflective Scales???? Not all of them are pure QQ threads, but i promise you, you will see a great many.

Lets start one by one,

DK have the best heal is a no no no and no.GdB Its 33% of your MISSING health.So it does not give me a 700+ heal whenever i want,only when the DK is almost dead gets this number.
The ability to reflect thanks to all the whiners is gone,just forget it.
Great ultimates? what one? the banner? or the leap? or the magma shell?
Soul Thether- veil of blades and SOUL HARVEST(50 ulti points/deals 800+ damage/buffs 20% ALL the next attacks for 6 sec/passively increases while slotted ulti gains).
PVE best ultimates yes,we do.
Dk's WERE really a dominant class on pvp and this nerfed really long ago but some nubs dont realize that they cant kill even a crippled dk because the cant L2P and they think by whining they will balance it out.Good for them that ZoS listens to the nublades and pets them even and even more.
JFI im here since beta and always active from then untill now,JFI x2 my main is a NB so i know better than some whiners here what a nb is and what a DK is.

You also said that you knew i aint gonna listen but honestly mate I really cant listen to something that im sure is not accurate,you wanna convince me that im wrong? Level up a DK try to play with it and then tell me whats better,a nb or a dk.DONT really DONT use a dk with a medium armor on pvp its funny,just compair a light armor sword and shield DK with a medium armor NB.

Thats what i did when i was seeing nightblades whining about DK's and i was a nightblade.I said...Lets test that out. And by all means i had the same opinion as you in the past,now i dont

Feel free guys,it is FREE to lvl up a DK and judge youselfs.

Lava_Croft

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

So after a terribad DK, you now also have a terribad NB? Awesome!

AltusVenifus

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Yeah DK is the dominant class on pvp

And not a nightblade:

-When he has an ultimate that needs 50 ulti points/deals 800+ damage/buffs 20% ALL the next attacks for 6 sec/passively increases while slotted ulti gains.
-When he gets ulti by healing him self
-When he gets 30% more from all pots
-When he removes 4 negative effects when he dissapear or...100% crit chance...
-When he has an ulti that allows him to take 75% reduced damage and cause a very nice damage
-When he has a life stealing ultimate that deals alot of damage and stun AoE
-When he has the only NON BLOCKABLE cc in this game(so lol)
-When he has double shades to run all your stamina in 1 minute add carltrops add fear DK wont have stamina in 10 sec
-When he has the option to deal less damage and constantly refill stamina and magica
-When he has the best execute ability in this game
-When he can deal a nice damage and reduce BOTH enemy armor and resistances by 40%
-When he has a ranged dps attack that allows him to damage/heal over time and receive ultimate from heals to himself
-When he can do a nice AoE damage that HEALS him.(jesus let me think what else..)
-And finally when he does the best AoE damage in this game that: increases his weapon damage based on targets hit then dealing a GOOD AoE damage and then HEALS him and give him ultimate for both crits he did and heals he did?

Sorry about the copy paste of my post,but you sould read a bit about it nightblade whiners and tell us what better DK has against YOU and if you cant kill a DK in less than a minute u definantly are a L2P case.

Also if you see a DK trying to 1vsX go fear him once or twice keep him rooted make him hug one blazing shield and stay away from him.<--NON L2P case

All of that looks good typed out, but you should actually test all of it in glorious battle.

I will give you the double shades, veil of blades(pretty much all the ultimates) the potions passive, fear(for now, soon the block and casters will have it made blockable by their never ending whining:() and the execute, but thats it.

The ranged HoT(i assume you mean strife, correct me if i'm wrong) only provides decent HoTs if you do a lot of damage to your enemy/ies. Thats hard to do when the majority of the playerbase blocks and casts almost everything they do, negating almost all of your damage. I myself just used it as an extra ranged ability, the HoT was never the reason.

Do not use the cloak morphs as an advantage for NBs. Cloak breaks more often than not, and im not even sure if the morphs actually work, last i heard they were bugged.

I guess i can give you siphoning strikes as well, i find it a decent ability:)

Last i checked, all classes can charge ultimate by healing.

idk what to say about NBs doing the best AOe damage in the game. I personally think that is complete nonsense, but I am not a sap essence user/spammer, so idk what its capability is.

Just for your information,i have a nightblade as my main and a DK that i made after.I know whats the nightblade playstyle and the DK playstyle..

Why you dont try to make a GOD/DK just to see how DK's are buddy?
If your build is a stamina build you cant compaire with a templar/sorc/dk/NB magica build on pvp you sould know that so...the problem is your build not the dk

Soulac wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Yeah DK is the dominant class on pvp

And not a nightblade:

-When he has an ultimate that needs 50 ulti points/deals 800+ damage/buffs 20% ALL the next attacks for 6 sec/passively increases while slotted ulti gains.
-When he gets ulti by healing him self
-When he gets 30% more from all pots
-When he removes 4 negative effects when he dissapear or...100% crit chance...
-When he has an ulti that allows him to take 75% reduced damage and cause a very nice damage
-When he has a life stealing ultimate that deals alot of damage and stun AoE
-When he has the only NON BLOCKABLE cc in this game(so lol)
-When he has double shades to run all your stamina in 1 minute add carltrops add fear DK wont have stamina in 10 sec
-When he has the option to deal less damage and constantly refill stamina and magica
-When he has the best execute ability in this game
-When he can deal a nice damage and reduce BOTH enemy armor and resistances by 40%
-When he has a ranged dps attack that allows him to damage/heal over time and receive ultimate from heals to himself
-When he can do a nice AoE damage that HEALS him.(jesus let me think what else..)
-And finally when he does the best AoE damage in this game that: increases his weapon damage based on targets hit then dealing a GOOD AoE damage and then HEALS him and give him ultimate for both crits he did and heals he did?

Sorry about the copy paste of my post,but you sould read a bit about it nightblade whiners and tell us what better DK has against YOU and if you cant kill a DK in less than a minute u definantly are a L2P case.

Also if you see a DK trying to 1vsX go fear him once or twice keep him rooted make him hug one blazing shield and stay away from him.<--NON L2P case

Im dealing with it...Nighblades dont deal with it and cry cry here on the forms.

That is pretty obvious.

I have both NB and DK. DK is way more powerful. Not even comparable. It is shameful that anyone defends it.

Nicko_Lps

Lava_Croft wrote: »

So after a terribad DK, you now also have a terribad NB? Awesome!

You got serious issues with the terribad dk woohoho

I had a nightblade before you even start eso, we talked about it again.

Major weakness: Minor or no memory

Solariken

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

I don't know if they are dominant from a power standpoint, but DK's definitely seem to be population dominant. Judging only by the "kill 20 of x class" quests in Cyrodiil, it feels like I complete the DK kill quests about 5-10 times faster than the others.

Lava_Croft

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

So after a terribad DK, you now also have a terribad NB? Awesome!

You got serious issues with the terribad dk woohoho

I had a nightblade before you even start eso, we talked about it again.

Major weakness: Minor or no memory

When did I start ESO?

Sanct16

A dominant class is situational i.e. DKs are good against in mass melees, Sorcerers are good at kiting/gank, Nightblades are only good at ganking, Templars are the best healers.

Solariken wrote: »

I don't know if they are dominant from a power standpoint, but DK's definitely seem to be population dominant. Judging only by the "kill 20 of x class" quests in Cyrodiil, it feels like I complete the DK kill quests about 5-10 times faster than the others.

You know that this quest is absolutely nowhere close to be of any relevance for how many people play DK?

Lava_Croft

Dragon Knight is the dominant class in PvP

Sanct16 wrote: »

Solariken wrote: »

I don't know if they are dominant from a power standpoint, but DK's definitely seem to be population dominant. Judging only by the "kill 20 of x class" quests in Cyrodiil, it feels like I complete the DK kill quests about 5-10 times faster than the others.

You know that this quest is absolutely nowhere close to be of any relevance for how many people play DK?

Just like this poll.