Can we have an European Thornblade (EU) topic?

AbraXuSeXile

Back to normality

RensDG

Losing to a better faction isn't frustrating.

it's frustrating to only see 3 keeps every evening when i try to do some pvp.
I would like some bananas to get back into thornblade. I rather lose to a cocky banana who is to proud to work with Smurfs.

AbraXuSeXile

RensDG wrote: »

Losing to a better faction isn't frustrating.

it's frustrating to only see 3 keeps every evening when i try to do some pvp.
I would like some bananas to get back into thornblade. I rather lose to a cocky banana who is to proud to work with Smurfs.

There are other campaigns you know.

The problem is that EP off hour capping has burned so many people, even this morning on a week day EP double pop of DC and had an early morning train capping all blue keeps and took 2 scrolls.

There is no need for it, when this off hour train roflstomping all keeps when hardly anyones on stops then im sure PvP on Thorn will be better for all.

Lava_Croft

PvP is better for all when there's 3 factions fighting at a Scroll gate.

Ishtar

every time those blue nightcappers

VagabondAngel

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

There is no need for it, when this off hour train roflstomping all keeps when hardly anyones on stops then im sure PvP on Thorn will be better for all.

Better for all? You mean the 24 hour steam-roller that you are currently running has saved PvP on Thornblade? I think its time to stop pretending any other motive than another self-serving ego flex. Oh Abraxus, my hero. You turned the map from red to blue and farm at the gates.

Yellows didn't return. This is not good PvP. We swapped one map-sweep for one of a different colour. It isn't going to improve. Get over yourself.

dsalter

VagabondAngel wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

There is no need for it, when this off hour train roflstomping all keeps when hardly anyones on stops then im sure PvP on Thorn will be better for all.

Better for all? You mean the 24 hour steam-roller that you are currently running has saved PvP on Thornblade? I think its time to stop pretending any other motive than another self-serving ego flex. Oh Abraxus, my hero. You turned the map from red to blue and farm at the gates.

Yellows didn't return. This is not good PvP. We swapped one map-sweep for one of a different colour. It isn't going to improve. Get over yourself.

totally no account sharing going on is there?

AbraXuSeXile

VagabondAngel wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

There is no need for it, when this off hour train roflstomping all keeps when hardly anyones on stops then im sure PvP on Thorn will be better for all.

Better for all? You mean the 24 hour steam-roller that you are currently running has saved PvP on Thornblade? I think its time to stop pretending any other motive than another self-serving ego flex. Oh Abraxus, my hero. You turned the map from red to blue and farm at the gates.

Yellows didn't return. This is not good PvP. We swapped one map-sweep for one of a different colour. It isn't going to improve. Get over yourself.

I dont run any 24 hour map sweep, i logged in at 10am to one emp keep left. I roll call and took back most. This is called a counter measure.

I do nothing for myself, My plan after winning the last campaign was to mess about on other campaigns, Then i see trains as far as the eye can see farming DC pugs and camping them and taking everything at unholy times, I got asked for a bit of help and i'm helping, I spent most of the first week of this season playing on Azura.

eXile is the only guild group on DC and we dont run 24 man trains even though it is said we run 48 man lagblobs. It is unnecessary for 24 man trains to be running around the clock, Some EP need learn there is life outside the train.

It's also not one colour, AD are happy to be out there gates fighting. Which wouldn't happen if EP had there way.

AbraXuSeXile

dsalter wrote: »

VagabondAngel wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

There is no need for it, when this off hour train roflstomping all keeps when hardly anyones on stops then im sure PvP on Thorn will be better for all.

Better for all? You mean the 24 hour steam-roller that you are currently running has saved PvP on Thornblade? I think its time to stop pretending any other motive than another self-serving ego flex. Oh Abraxus, my hero. You turned the map from red to blue and farm at the gates.

Yellows didn't return. This is not good PvP. We swapped one map-sweep for one of a different colour. It isn't going to improve. Get over yourself.

totally no account sharing going on is there?

I take it this is aimed at me as i'm recieving an awful lot of messages accusing me of having different players on my account, It's just me

Kilmister

No nonsense intended in this post but just so you know, as I am sure you do already, that EP doesn't have any guilds on Thorn that are active on the campaign for more than I guess 8 to 10 hours per week each for three guilds.

Wabba - One guild raid on Sunday evening for 3 hours

Necro - 3 raids per week for a couple hours each but these can be Thorn or Asura or Haderus or wherever.

Russians - I think 3 times per week for a few hours in their evening.

The majority of activity you see is PUGS, War Council, Wache, Pact etc. and there are also just people that like to play "early morning" because of shift work, world location or because the basement doesn't get unlocked until noon or whatever.

And, most of these groups don't speak to each other in a really coordinated way. So when you say "EP", there really isn't an EP entity as a whole, we just have more people log on to Thorn and largely I guess because a lot of people are happy to run PUGS, teach new people and create an inclusive atmosphere for players that actually works well when the guilds don't try to control everything.

SC0TY999

RensDG wrote: »

Losing to a better faction isn't frustrating.

it's frustrating to only see 3 keeps every evening when i try to do some pvp.
I would like some bananas to get back into thornblade. I rather lose to a cocky banana who is to proud to work with Smurfs.

If you don't like it you can always move to another campaign and help split your factions huge numbers out evenly across the other campaigns!

SC0TY999

Ishtar wrote: »

every time those blue nightcappers

LOL your not supposed to use that on the forum anymore but I have to laugh out loud at you!


Blue night cappers? What drugs are you taking mate I want some!

Tankqull

SC0TY999 wrote: »

RensDG wrote: »

Losing to a better faction isn't frustrating.

it's frustrating to only see 3 keeps every evening when i try to do some pvp.
I would like some bananas to get back into thornblade. I rather lose to a cocky banana who is to proud to work with Smurfs.

If you don't like it you can always move to another campaign and help split your factions huge numbers out evenly across the other campaigns!

why do you not instead bring your buffserver pop over?

DeanTheCat

"Morning", "Evening" and "Night" are rather subjective terms. I live in Singapore (UTC+8), and if by going by the logic of most of the people on this thread, I could theorically call all of you "Night cappers", as when you play, it's around 3-4am in my time zone. I often log into a map that is totally different from the map that I saw when I logged off, yet it's 100% fine by me. This game runs 24/7, and there are 24 different time zones around the world. Does this mean by your logic, you are telling everyone who isn't from your time zone to basically not play at all?

Every single faction in this game has the potential to fill any single campaign in this game with all 3 locks. However, due to the very human nature of wanting an easy victory, most (No offence meant, really) DC and AD choose to instead stack on their own respective buff servers instead of coming to fight, and then prefer to instead complain about the population imbalances. I find that notion rather amusing.

I mainly play on Thornblade due to it being the only campaign where there is any action at all in my time zone, so would you please consider the possibility of us poor sods who live in a different timezone from you? Thank you.

P.S: I play solo 90% of the time. 400+ ping is overpowered.

Etaniel

DeanTheCat wrote: »

"Morning", "Evening" and "Night" are rather subjective terms. I live in Singapore (UTC+8), and if by going by the logic of most of the people on this thread, I could theorically call all of you "Night cappers", as when you play, it's around 3-4am in my time zone. I often log into a map that is totally different from the map that I saw when I logged off, yet it's 100% fine by me. This game runs 24/7, and there are 24 different time zones around the world. Does this mean by your logic, you are telling everyone who isn't from your time zone to basically not play at all?

Every single faction in this game has the potential to fill any single campaign in this game with all 3 locks. However, due to the very human nature of wanting an easy victory, most (No offence meant, really) DC and AD choose to instead stack on their own respective buff servers instead of coming to fight, and then prefer to instead complain about the population imbalances. I find that notion rather amusing.

I mainly play on Thornblade due to it being the only campaign where there is any action at all in my time zone, so would you please consider the possibility of us poor sods who live in a different timezone from you? Thank you.

P.S: I play solo 90% of the time. 400+ ping is overpowered.

While I completely agree with the fact that it's 24/7 bla bla bla and that you live far from typical european timezones so we can't blame you for playing in your own day time, I have to disagree with your statement that DC and AD should get off their buff servers to defend thorn. Mainly because people like you who live in different time zones are a minority. When I have a day off from work, I might end up staying up late to 3-4 am, and at that time even the buff servers are emptying up. In the morning it's the same, all campaigns are empty, EXCEPT for whoever is morning/nightcapping. There is no one to come defend, not because they are on other campaigns, but because they are sleeping.

If there are plenty of opponents, forming a train is ok in my books. If you are high pop or locked when the other factions are low, forming a train is completely ridiculous and out of proportions.

Sharee

DeanTheCat wrote: »

"Morning", "Evening" and "Night" are rather subjective terms. I live in Singapore (UTC+8), and if by going by the logic of most of the people on this thread, I could theorically call all of you "Night cappers", as when you play, it's around 3-4am in my time zone. I often log into a map that is totally different from the map that I saw when I logged off, yet it's 100% fine by me. This game runs 24/7, and there are 24 different time zones around the world. Does this mean by your logic, you are telling everyone who isn't from your time zone to basically not play at all?

I suppose a more fitting term than nightcappers would be 'players who cap the whole map against no opposition because they are locked while the enemy has 1 bar of population', but 'nightcappers' is more convenient to type.

The problem is not playing at odd hours, the problem is all of those 'odd hours' players piling up all on one side for an easy ride, and outnumbering the few enemies present by a factor of 4. This frustrates the outnumbered side, makes any scoring meaningless, and eventually kills the campaign.
And this is what EP did over and over in the past campaigns, and also the reason why you see DC and AD attacking EP in favor of fighting each other today. Its a natural reaction. EP has no-one but themselves to blame for this.

Tankqull

Etaniel wrote: »

If there are plenty of opponents, forming a train is ok in my books. If you are high pop or locked when the other factions are low, forming a train is completely ridiculous and out of proportions.

the problem is you cant stop people from stacking up, they want opponents to fight the less opponents available the more they tend to stack on both sides the hihger pop side want to fight opponents and the lower pop side blames the other side for stacking while doing the same the hihger pop side could blame the low pop side for not spreadiing creating multiple spots where they could fight the lower pop side...

you can observe the same at the evening where DC and AD are blaming EP for ferociously defending arrius instead of splitting up and being shreded with half their pop fighting DC and AD simultaniously at different keeps...

Sharee wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

"Morning", "Evening" and "Night" are rather subjective terms. I live in Singapore (UTC+8), and if by going by the logic of most of the people on this thread, I could theorically call all of you "Night cappers", as when you play, it's around 3-4am in my time zone. I often log into a map that is totally different from the map that I saw when I logged off, yet it's 100% fine by me. This game runs 24/7, and there are 24 different time zones around the world. Does this mean by your logic, you are telling everyone who isn't from your time zone to basically not play at all?

I suppose a more fitting term than nightcappers would be 'players who cap the whole map against no opposition because they are locked while the enemy has 1 bar of population', but 'nightcappers' is more convenient to type.

The problem is not playing at odd hours, the problem is all of those 'odd hours' players piling up all on one side for an easy ride, and outnumbering the few enemies present by a factor of 4. This frustrates the outnumbered side, makes any scoring meaningless, and eventually kills the campaign.
And this is what EP did over and over in the past campaigns, and also the reason why you see DC and AD attacking EP in favor of fighting each other today. Its a natural reaction. EP has no-one but themselves to blame for this.

so you blame EP for doing the same as AD & DC did on the other servers?

Tankqull

double post

Sharee

Tankqull wrote: »

so you blame EP for doing the same as AD & DC did on the other servers?

Are you under the impression that i am somehow responsible for what AD or DC does on other servers?
This thread is about thornblade EU, so thornblade EU is what i am commenting on.

DeanTheCat

Every faction is guilty of "Lagtrains", "Nightcapping", "Zergs", etc. No faction is innocent of this. Even those groups who advertise themselves as "12 players only" often have a huge unaccounted amount of randoms trailing behind them, like how vultures trail in the wake of apex predators to feast on their leftovers. Because of this mentality by the common player who have no notion or care about what they are doing is zerging, we (The players) often create zergs without even us realising this at all.

No faction is better then another terms of the quality of their players. I have seen the days of Auriel's Bow, where floods of AD would gatecamp both EP and DC. I remember the days of Bloodthorn, where the situation was similar, except it was DC pushing Altadoon and Chim at the same time. Fast forward a few months, same thing on Chillrend, then the yellow horde on Haderus.

By the very nature of the game, zerging and "nightcapping" will never go away. Can we please then respect each other and just have fun, instead of being so worked up and going at each other's throats? Let's all just save that fury for the battlefield shall we?

SC0TY999

Tankqull wrote: »

SC0TY999 wrote: »

RensDG wrote: »

Losing to a better faction isn't frustrating.

it's frustrating to only see 3 keeps every evening when i try to do some pvp.
I would like some bananas to get back into thornblade. I rather lose to a cocky banana who is to proud to work with Smurfs.

If you don't like it you can always move to another campaign and help split your factions huge numbers out evenly across the other campaigns!

why do you not instead bring your buffserver pop over?

I don't know anyone that plays on buffservers that's the reason why.

So I assume that's what you EP do to gather massive numbers then?

Tankqull

SC0TY999 wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

SC0TY999 wrote: »

RensDG wrote: »

Losing to a better faction isn't frustrating.

it's frustrating to only see 3 keeps every evening when i try to do some pvp.
I would like some bananas to get back into thornblade. I rather lose to a cocky banana who is to proud to work with Smurfs.

If you don't like it you can always move to another campaign and help split your factions huge numbers out evenly across the other campaigns!

why do you not instead bring your buffserver pop over?

I don't know anyone that plays on buffservers that's the reason why.

So I assume that's what you EP do to gather massive numbers then?

no its just the development of the past year where EP and either DC or AD depending on the buff server have been effectively banished leaving EP to play on one server.

SC0TY999

Sharee wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

"Morning", "Evening" and "Night" are rather subjective terms. I live in Singapore (UTC+8), and if by going by the logic of most of the people on this thread, I could theorically call all of you "Night cappers", as when you play, it's around 3-4am in my time zone. I often log into a map that is totally different from the map that I saw when I logged off, yet it's 100% fine by me. This game runs 24/7, and there are 24 different time zones around the world. Does this mean by your logic, you are telling everyone who isn't from your time zone to basically not play at all?

I suppose a more fitting term than nightcappers would be 'players who cap the whole map against no opposition because they are locked while the enemy has 1 bar of population', but 'nightcappers' is more convenient to type.

The problem is not playing at odd hours, the problem is all of those 'odd hours' players piling up all on one side for an easy ride, and outnumbering the few enemies present by a factor of 4. This frustrates the outnumbered side, makes any scoring meaningless, and eventually kills the campaign.
And this is what EP did over and over in the past campaigns, and also the reason why you see DC and AD attacking EP in favor of fighting each other today. Its a natural reaction. EP has no-one but themselves to blame for this.

Fully agree Sharee, do you remember EP did exactly the same thing on Wabbajack before it was removed?

I mention Wabbajack because that was the campaign I played on at the start of the game until it was removed.

Francescolg

As a DC player, I would like to apologize for the out-of-place suppression strategy that 2 of our major guilds are running against you most of the time. In my opinion, they should leave you some keeps, so that a "major war zone" can develop, a place to go for fight for everybody.
Unfortunately, the last year, this "place for fights" was the area around Sejanus and the removal of rezz camps was a major kick in the g..s for every smurf, as we can not access the Sejanus area as easy as you can.. but this is another topic and it seems that camps are coming back (in fall 2015..).

I do not know what the A-Team is doing most of the time but things I notice from them are: either flames in the zone-chat about scrubs, or some of their members who keep flaming others of being a spy, because they went AFK. I even got flamed because I like to defend keeps and I like to wait (sometimes 30 mins+) at positions with a high attack-probability (DC, outposts, the less frequented areas), whilst I can chat or listen to music
But what I know about the A-team, is that you'll find them where you can farm the most AP. Finally, that is a very legit strategy!

The other leader, who seems to have some pathological issues that lead him to constantly raid kingscrest, no matter what, he is leading a "fun-group" that constantly runs to kingscrest to wipe and come back. Since I don't like that pathological style of play, I even can't speak for them.

I do not think we need to win a campain. I highly prefer a campain that offers me (and all enemies) a place like "Sejanus" 100% of the time: to be able to cluster and zerg. And I wish camps to come back to the game, as I wish to have many spots on the map with endless, ongoing battles. I do not wish to have one faction suppressing another faction most of the time, as i don't like that red group who is balling-up with 2-3 raid groups.

Basically, smurfs have 2-3 groups that actually matter for the campain, and this is no joke, imagine them as:
- the group and
- the 8==D group

You reds have the best spot for casual play! cause masses of dumb smurfs and yellows keep coming to you, while you seldomly have to leave Arrius to get great fights and if it's not Arrius it is Sejanus, where you can go. While we smurfs have to ride all day long, you can farm AP left and right without even having to move!

If you manage to understand "that winning the campain" is not everything about PvP and that the best moments in PvP are not: "raiding empty keeps" BUT to have constant fight areas (as Sejanus), you'll understand that EP is in the better position actually, even if they loose the campain, they don't have to play horse-simulator all day long!

azoriangaming

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

VagabondAngel wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

There is no need for it, when this off hour train roflstomping all keeps when hardly anyones on stops then im sure PvP on Thorn will be better for all.

Better for all? You mean the 24 hour steam-roller that you are currently running has saved PvP on Thornblade? I think its time to stop pretending any other motive than another self-serving ego flex. Oh Abraxus, my hero. You turned the map from red to blue and farm at the gates.

Yellows didn't return. This is not good PvP. We swapped one map-sweep for one of a different colour. It isn't going to improve. Get over yourself.

totally no account sharing going on is there?

I take it this is aimed at me as i'm recieving an awful lot of messages accusing me of having different players on my account, It's just me

trust me no account sharing this guy is just insane and never sleeps

DeanTheCat

Francescolg wrote: »

As a DC player, I would like to apologize for the out-of-place suppression strategy that 2 of our major guilds are running against you most of the time. In my opinion, they should leave you some keeps, so that a "major war zone" can develop, a place to go for fight for everybody.
Unfortunately, the last year, this "place for fights" was the area around Sejanus and the removal of rezz camps was a major kick in the g..s for every smurf, as we can not access the Sejanus area as easy as you can.. but this is another topic and it seems that camps are coming back (in fall 2015..).

I do not know what the A-Team is doing most of the time but things I notice from them are: either flames in the zone-chat about scrubs, or some of their members who keep flaming others of being a spy, because they went AFK. I even got flamed because I like to defend keeps and I like to wait (sometimes 30 mins+) at positions with a high attack-probability (DC, outposts, the less frequented areas), whilst I can chat or listen to music
But what I know about the A-team, is that you'll find them where you can farm the most AP. Finally, that is a very legit strategy!

The other leader, who seems to have some pathological issues that lead him to constantly raid kingscrest, no matter what, he is leading a "fun-group" that constantly runs to kingscrest to wipe and come back. Since I don't like that pathological style of play, I even can't speak for them.

I do not think we need to win a campain. I highly prefer a campain that offers me (and all enemies) a place like "Sejanus" 100% of the time: to be able to cluster and zerg. And I wish camps to come back to the game, as I wish to have many spots on the map with endless, ongoing battles. I do not wish to have one faction suppressing another faction most of the time, as i don't like that red group who is balling-up with 2-3 raid groups.

Basically, smurfs have 2-3 groups that actually matter for the campain, and this is no joke, imagine them as:
- the group and
- the 8==D group

You reds have the best spot for casual play! cause masses of dumb smurfs and yellows keep coming to you, while you seldomly have to leave Arrius to get great fights and if it's not Arrius it is Sejanus, where you can go. While we smurfs have to ride all day long, you can farm AP left and right without even having to move!

If you manage to understand "that winning the campain" is not everything about PvP and that the best moments in PvP are not: "raiding empty keeps" BUT to have constant fight areas (as Sejanus), you'll understand that EP is in the better position actually, even if they loose the campain, they don't have to play horse-simulator all day long!

Eh, I can't really speak for all the Pact, but my posting today was more out of sheer irritation at some of the comments that have been floating around this thread. I just don't like how arrogant some of the posters are, and was just offering my view through oceanic tinted lenses. I have pretty much read every single post on the thread even though I didn't really post till today. I just decided "Enough is enough" and wrote my views.

For me, I just want to have fun. Really. IRL is crappy enough as it is. We don't need to bring our resentment here too. Though that isn't going to stop me from assassinating your pugs one by one, in the name of the pact

Beesting

rdbrown1987 wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

VagabondAngel wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

There is no need for it, when this off hour train roflstomping all keeps when hardly anyones on stops then im sure PvP on Thorn will be better for all.

Better for all? You mean the 24 hour steam-roller that you are currently running has saved PvP on Thornblade? I think its time to stop pretending any other motive than another self-serving ego flex. Oh Abraxus, my hero. You turned the map from red to blue and farm at the gates.

Yellows didn't return. This is not good PvP. We swapped one map-sweep for one of a different colour. It isn't going to improve. Get over yourself.

totally no account sharing going on is there?

I take it this is aimed at me as i'm recieving an awful lot of messages accusing me of having different players on my account, It's just me

trust me no account sharing this guy is just insane and never sleeps

works

Corrected that for you

In his defense, at least he is still around with us unlike many others that left the game

Tankqull

Francescolg wrote: »

As a DC player, I would like to apologize for the out-of-place suppression strategy that 2 of our major guilds are running against you most of the time. In my opinion, they should leave you some keeps, so that a "major war zone" can develop, a place to go for fight for everybody.
Unfortunately, the last year, this "place for fights" was the area around Sejanus and the removal of rezz camps was a major kick in the g..s for every smurf, as we can not access the Sejanus area as easy as you can.. but this is another topic and it seems that camps are coming back (in fall 2015..).

I do not know what the A-Team is doing most of the time but things I notice from them are: either flames in the zone-chat about scrubs, or some of their members who keep flaming others of being a spy, because they went AFK. I even got flamed because I like to defend keeps and I like to wait (sometimes 30 mins+) at positions with a high attack-probability (DC, outposts, the less frequented areas), whilst I can chat or listen to music
But what I know about the A-team, is that you'll find them where you can farm the most AP. Finally, that is a very legit strategy!

The other leader, who seems to have some pathological issues that lead him to constantly raid kingscrest, no matter what, he is leading a "fun-group" that constantly runs to kingscrest to wipe and come back. Since I don't like that pathological style of play, I even can't speak for them.

I do not think we need to win a campain. I highly prefer a campain that offers me (and all enemies) a place like "Sejanus" 100% of the time: to be able to cluster and zerg. And I wish camps to come back to the game, as I wish to have many spots on the map with endless, ongoing battles. I do not wish to have one faction suppressing another faction most of the time, as i don't like that red group who is balling-up with 2-3 raid groups.

Basically, smurfs have 2-3 groups that actually matter for the campain, and this is no joke, imagine them as:
- the group and
- the 8==D group

You reds have the best spot for casual play! cause masses of dumb smurfs and yellows keep coming to you, while you seldomly have to leave Arrius to get great fights and if it's not Arrius it is Sejanus, where you can go. While we smurfs have to ride all day long, you can farm AP left and right without even having to move!

If you manage to understand "that winning the campain" is not everything about PvP and that the best moments in PvP are not: "raiding empty keeps" BUT to have constant fight areas (as Sejanus), you'll understand that EP is in the better position actually, even if they loose the campain, they don't have to play horse-simulator all day long!

well you have your own "sejanus" atleast as long as the non agressionpact between AD&DC is not in place nickels is awesome when contested (allwey been there with my guild trying to harass as much AD & DCs as possible

AbraXuSeXile

There is no NAP with AD. I have no contact with anyone on AD side. They attack who they want and they want to have keeps so they attack EP. They have brains.

Tankqull

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

There is no NAP with AD. I have no contact with anyone on AD side. They attack who they want and they want to have keeps so they attack EP. They have brains.

not saying that there is some kind of ambassadorial treaty - but thx to common sense it is operative (not judging it in any kind though as it is just natural on thorn with the given circumstances).