Chillrend NA - Where cool kids go.

Agrippa_Invisus

*checks map before heading out on vacation*

So... EP... what did we learn?

D Fresh

Ok EP zerg [snip] we have decided to play tonight and farm the hell out of you along with taking the entire side and your inner keep scrolls. TY for playing.

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Cinnamon_Spider

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

*checks map before heading out on vacation*

So... EP... what did we learn?

I definitely learned from this. I feel like such an idiot for defending certain people and their actions.

SeltzerDuke

bitaken wrote: »

SeltzerDuke wrote: »

Can the AD and DC who keep going on about Pact nightcapping find another pet peeve or possibly just another campaign?

This is what you want. You want your buff server back.

I don't actually. I finally stopped waiting for the potential of Bow (an all-vet campaign with a quick turnaround) to come alive and switched home camps from Bow to Chill over the weekend. It's kind of funny that right afterwards, blue apparently mopped up the Bow map, and now red got their (obviously short-lived) map in Chill. Maybe the buffs follow me? :P

It's just the endless complaints about nightcapping, which as I said I actually have no idea why red has such a strong presence amongst the overnight crew. Where do you suggest they pvp during their main gaming time, though? Whatever happened to the overnight AD crew that made AB such a terror back in the first month or two? C'mon your guild owned the DB reboot (I still get PTS anxiety when I see Antwerp or Yote do a scroll cap, lollerz), you shouldn't be complaining so much when you've got the resources to do something about it. Although the rest of your post suggests that you will, so okay then.

Suhxtob-yu

This whole thread is so very laughable. Once everyone is done crying, try to realize that there are people who play the game that......don't live where you live.

What should we tell our Aussie friends? Go do trials when the US players decide to go to bed...... Do you even realize how dumb that sounds?


You all want an apology? I am so very sorry that we effectively put a stop to your emperor trading that Bitaken admitted to having already seated 6 emperors.

And to any of the AD/DC sympathisers who are threatening to leave, bye. Do you really think that other new blood won't fill your spot? Go find yourself a new campaign to trade emps on.

But even if you do, we might have to come put a stop to it there too just because we now know how mad it makes all of you.

Halrloprillalar

TROLLLLBACK

GRxKnight

Suhxtob-yu wrote: »

This whole thread is so very laughable. Once everyone is done crying, try to realize that there are people who play the game that......don't live where you live.

What should we tell our Aussie friends? Go do trials when the US players decide to go to bed...... Do you even realize how dumb that sounds?


You all want an apology? I am so very sorry that we effectively put a stop to your emperor trading that Bitaken admitted to having already seated 6 emperors.

And to any of the AD/DC sympathisers who are threatening to leave, bye. Do you really think that other new blood won't fill your spot? Go find yourself a new campaign to trade emps on.

But even if you do, we might have to come put a stop to it there too just because we now know how mad it makes all of you.

I'm not here to farm emp...I'm here to enjoy a fun and balanced campaign but can't do that if AD is starting at their gates every day and we're dealing with troll camps placed by EP because they can never take a keep from us legitly.

Also...

SCROLL RESET!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

KellanKell

Server issues with no lag...

Sorry EP scrolls

aksyong

SeltzerDuke wrote: »

I still get PTS anxiety when I see Antwerp or Yote do a scroll cap, lollerz

Why? I seldom run scrolls... Yote is our main runner, I'm just the back-up dancer.

Suhxtob-yu wrote: »

try to realize that there are people who play the game that......don't live where you live.

Yeah, pretty much this. I don't really care about the map being flipped. I think it's the same for all servers right now except for Thornblade. And we can't do anything much about it since Brian is not making any changes to guesting as yet, thus we will see QQ all the time till something is changed.

In all, I pretty much love a red map, because it means I can have more challenging fights! This will be like the 1st round of campaign where the AD oceanic crews (DiE team and crazy zerg of pugs) in AB gave me so much fun.

Suhxtob-yu wrote: »

admitted to having already seated 6 emperors.

Actually we were doing the same like what happened in DB the last campaign, where EP was crowning during the night (maybe 12am-5am ish) and we flipping it early in the morning (maybe 7am-12pm ish).

As of now, 11 emperors

GRxKnight

To red:

Sorrynotsorry

SeltzerDuke

aksyong wrote: »

SeltzerDuke wrote: »

I still get PTS anxiety when I see Antwerp or Yote do a scroll cap, lollerz

Why? I seldom run scrolls... Yote is our main runner, I'm just the back-up dancer.

Oh, I just meant that whenever I saw either name pop up in the scroll cap announcement, it was probably gone for good, heh. GG in other words.

Of course, why bother with scroll caps when there are resets? Haha. :P

aksyong

SeltzerDuke wrote: »

aksyong wrote: »

SeltzerDuke wrote: »

I still get PTS anxiety when I see Antwerp or Yote do a scroll cap, lollerz

Why? I seldom run scrolls... Yote is our main runner, I'm just the back-up dancer.

Oh, I just meant that whenever I saw either name pop up in the scroll cap announcement, it was probably gone for good, heh. GG in other words.

Of course, why bother with scroll caps when there are resets? Haha. :P

Oh I see... I don't know what's going on in Chillrend right now as I'm bounded at my office working. Anyone can update me what's the situation like right now? Since ESO Stats isn't very updated.

bitaken

Suhxtob-yu wrote: »

This whole thread is so very laughable. Once everyone is done crying, try to realize that there are people who play the game that......don't live where you live.

What should we tell our Aussie friends? Go do trials when the US players decide to go to bed...... Do you even realize how dumb that sounds?


You all want an apology? I am so very sorry that we effectively put a stop to your emperor trading that Bitaken admitted to having already seated 6 emperors.

And to any of the AD/DC sympathisers who are threatening to leave, bye. Do you really think that other new blood won't fill your spot? Go find yourself a new campaign to trade emps on.

But even if you do, we might have to come put a stop to it there too just because we now know how mad it makes all of you.

Talk is fairly cheap as the old saying goes. Your aussie friends - otherwise known as WCFC is terribad at PvP. They have proven this time and again. The map got down to EP with AD scrolls and Lost Ghartok tonight before the server flipped out and reset everyone's scrolls.

It's laughable to think that you truly believe you have done anything when all you have done is PvDoor a map red - and can never defend it. There are still some decent players EP side on this server. I don't know what Hijinx plans to do, but there is a decent group still running on this server. However, the reality of the situation with the map going all red? No one likes EP. I will tell you I have friends AD side I am regularly colluding with to crush EP during the prime time. I have no qualms about it either. You have emp but that's it. Yup, the map will be red when I wake up in the morning. Yup, I will have to back cap keeps and defend the one or two keeps I am able to capture from the EP zerg tomorrow during the day time - but I will make tons of AP off them. So, honestly I am happy.

BTW - it's 11 EHJ emps. If you are going to cite facts - get it straight.

D Fresh

Can't say I didn't tell you so. Enjoy all of your 'buffs' now red zerg [snip].

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Suhxtob-yu

bitaken wrote: »

Suhxtob-yu wrote: »

This whole thread is so very laughable. Once everyone is done crying, try to realize that there are people who play the game that......don't live where you live.

What should we tell our Aussie friends? Go do trials when the US players decide to go to bed...... Do you even realize how dumb that sounds?


You all want an apology? I am so very sorry that we effectively put a stop to your emperor trading that Bitaken admitted to having already seated 6 emperors.

And to any of the AD/DC sympathisers who are threatening to leave, bye. Do you really think that other new blood won't fill your spot? Go find yourself a new campaign to trade emps on.

But even if you do, we might have to come put a stop to it there too just because we now know how mad it makes all of you.

Talk is fairly cheap as the old saying goes. Your aussie friends - otherwise known as WCFC is terribad at PvP. They have proven this time and again. The map got down to EP with AD scrolls and Lost Ghartok tonight before the server flipped out and reset everyone's scrolls.

It's laughable to think that you truly believe you have done anything when all you have done is PvDoor a map red - and can never defend it. There are still some decent players EP side on this server. I don't know what Hijinx plans to do, but there is a decent group still running on this server. However, the reality of the situation with the map going all red? No one likes EP. I will tell you I have friends AD side I am regularly colluding with to crush EP during the prime time. I have no qualms about it either. You have emp but that's it. Yup, the map will be red when I wake up in the morning. Yup, I will have to back cap keeps and defend the one or two keeps I am able to capture from the EP zerg tomorrow during the day time - but I will make tons of AP off them. So, honestly I am happy.

BTW - it's 11 EHJ emps. If you are going to cite facts - get it straight.

As to be expected when 1 faction is in the lead. I ain't hating on you for colluding with AD. It makes sense. But lets call it like it is, people are mad because you actually have to fight to get emperor now instead of it being handed over on a silver platter.

KellanKell

bitaken wrote: »

Suhxtob-yu wrote: »

BTW - it's 11 EHJ emps. If you are going to cite facts - get it straight.

The shade thrown here, I love it!

GRxKnight

I will gladly work with blue to put red in their place. If they want to think that they're better than both AD and EP while hiding behind their Aussie crew then something along the lines of "you reap what you sow" comes to mind. Keep PvDooring and you'll constantly be 2v1'd during prime time. Stop and we'll have a nice 1v1v1. We did this back on Dawnbreaker and we'll do it again here if need be.

And @Ifthir_ESO‌ I can't help but laugh at you for your comment at Rylana. You have no idea (or you might) how many time AD or DC has been defending a keep from red and all of a sudden a camp goes down out in the middle of nowhere overlapping with the keep red is trying to take. The first time it happened I was willing to shrug it off as coincidence as there could be gankers in that area that wanted to drop a camp for whatever reason...but when it happens more than once, and on a regular basis, that's when *** gets out of hand. It's reflects really poorly on all of EP regardless of whether you had a hand in it or not.

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Maybe you should look into this thing called perspective.

Yes why not look into this thing called perspective and see how frustrating it is to defend a keep when you get troll camped. I'm sorry that your faction sucks too much without Hijinx holding you hand to accomplish anything. However this *** needs to stop. It's really sad that you have to have EP players cheat just to take a defended keep. When EP finally gets their act together and plays legitly (and there are a handful of EP that do in fact play legitly) then this 2v1 colluding with blue will stop and we'll be able to enjoy the campaign. However until that happens, well, as I've said before you reap what you sow and the reaping has only just begun.

MonkeyAssassin24

WTF is troll camping? So many damn new idioms and little phrases that spring up every day I can't keep track of them all. Is this when an assault team springs up a camp during their assault? (which everyone does) Or is this bad apples logging into other factions to hinder their camp placements? (which seems impossible to combat as all it takes is one jackass who finds this to be a sound strategy)

Braidas

MonkeyAssassin24 wrote: »

WTF is troll camping? So many damn new idioms and little phrases that spring up every day I can't keep track of them all. Is this when an assault team springs up a camp during their assault? (which everyone does) Or is this bad apples logging into other factions to hinder their camp placements? (which seems impossible to combat as all it takes is one jackass who finds this to be a sound strategy)

The latter. An EP logging onto an AD alt, for example, might put a camp down on a reso rather than inside the keep being defended, causing it to be lost.

Unlikely_Ghostbuster

Rylana wrote: »

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Also, before you ask, I have no idea who in EP is doing the troll-camping. Nor do I have any idea who flipped the map red while I was at work all day. I only play EP characters, and only during EST primetime. But I can certainly tell you one thing, there was definitely troll-camping going on during EST primetime hours against EP the evening of August 20th; always when an AD keep was being sieged. When it started happening, zone chat sparked up with complaints and denouncements of the tactic. Before I read these forum posts, I had no idea this was the new viral exploit.

It's worth noting that, while I was in-game tonight, DC was not using troll-camps to attack/defend their outposts and keeps from EP. Kudos to the DC players for not being total knobs. It was a pleasure fighting you, tonight.

Oh, and before anyone from the Dominion gets (back) up on a soap-box about your faction having integrity, I'd like to remind everyone how AD gate-camped both EP and DC on Auriel's Bow, every day and every night, for weeks and weeks, until the very end of the first campaign. The entire map wasn't any other color *but* yellow. It wasn't flipped until after the first campaign closed, when DC and EP formed a loose (and ill-advised) alliance on Auriel's Bow, several weeks before Update 3 dropped.

That was when the AD guild responsible for gate-camping both EP and DC day-in, day-out rage quit the game. Anyone else remember [snip] and the rest of the [snip] crew getting butt-hurt and tucking tail when the gate-camping roles were reversed? Because I certainly remember. They lost the map. They lost their bonuses. So they quit the game, after demonstrating precisely how to kill a campaign via gate-camping. Bravo, [snip] for pioneering PvDoor.

Oh, and if we're crowning a guild/faction for pioneering exploits in this game, the [snip] crew (on behalf of AD) wins the trophy, hands down. So really, anyone from AD with the audacity to point fingers concerning gate-camping should consider how *truly* hypocritical your righteous indignation is, considering which faction killed Auriel's Bow, and *how* they did it -- PvDoor during Oceanic primetime, week after week.

I should also go ahead and discuss what EP's zone chat agreed on, almost universally, when the troll-camping started, tonight. The most obvious solution ZOS has to solve the issue of spies and troll-camps is restricting everyone to ONE alliance per account.

Personally, I'm Ok with that solution because I only play Pact characters. However, I have no doubt some of you are going to be *very* upset to lose those beloved alts you've made in other factions (especially those of you who use your alts to cheat -- you might have to L2P or quit the game, entirely). After all, everyone has access to all content from any given alliance, seeing as how the veteran content *is* the other two alliance storylines. "No one will lose any content" is all the justification ZOS needs to pull the trigger.

They shut down Maki. They shut down the shadow grind. They'll shut down the spies and troll-camping. Those of you using cross-alliance exploits *will* force action from the GMs. Again, the quickest and easiest solution for ZOS is to restrict an account to whatever alliance that person joined with their first character. Be sure that ZOS is going to solve this issue before the console versions of this game go live -- you can count on it.

If there's another solution besides restricting accounts to a single alliance, I don't know what it could be. It sure would pre-empt a lot of foreseeable problems with cross-alliance exploits and the looming Imperial Island content. Although, I suppose ZOS could also eliminate forward camps from the game, so that the troll-campers can keep the alts they use to cheat. But I'm not in favor of any solution that fundamentally changes the mechanics of the game to work AROUND exploiters, to accommodate their cheating alt characters.

Frankly, I'd be surprised if a few simple database queries couldn't tell ZOS precisely who is placing these troll-camps. We know there are GMs observing us, in-game. It's not science fiction to think there are detailed logs of what occurs in PvP. ZOS won't need Batman or the Scooby-doo gang to expose and expunge every single exploiter from the game. It's delusional, wishful thinking if the exploiters believe they won't get caught.

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Rylana

Unlikely_Ghostbuster wrote: »

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The simple fact is, I have always played within the rules of the game. I dont cheat, I dont exploit, I have never done anything wrong besides get a couple warnings on the forums for language.

I cant speak for the past actions of AD or anyone else, it wasnt me.

I play all three factions legitimately. I have three vet AD toons, an EP vet former emperor, and a newbie DC toon I play. I have never been a spy, I dont give information out, and I play as fairly as possible. Anyone whos ever grouped with me on EP side knows I gleefully kill yellows, as PvP is my goal.

My point I was making in this thread is moreso "you guys realize we could be doing this too, right? so knock it off before myself or someone else starts doing it back, and worse"

I want the exploit crap to stop. I advocate for fair gameplay, and I get pissed off when someone exploits to cause a loss for me or my faction I happen to be on at the time.

Using past issues with other players and guilds as a justification for your own factions poor behavior also does not fly as none of those people youre holding a grudge with were even AT drakelowe tonight.

I am also well aware that most pact players play fair, hell I am one of you on one character. But those baddies that use the exploits need to be weeded out, and not supported in any way shape or form.

I want PvP, not ExploitvExploit, and that is what ESO PvP is quickly becoming, ask the guy who had the meatbag doing 4000 damage per tick what I am talking about. He was also on EP side last night.

Braidas

Unlikely_Ghostbuster wrote: »

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wow who brought in the total *** buzzkill lawyer? nice essay dude lmao

Ifthir_ESO

finally something we agree on @Brandeospeedwagon‌

lol

Rylana

I see that the discussion I had with some of the red leaders tonight fell on deaf ears. Another troll camp at Aleswell.

Very well.

GRxKnight

So what did we learn about today's session? Well EP shows again that it has no skill and relies on troll camps and exploits in order to win. It's really sad that we have to have a single person when defending or attacking be a designated camp placer just to try and prevent exploit camps (calling it this now since it's no longer trolling) from going down.

Alright DC here's my proposal. You guys can take Chalman Dragonclaw and Kingscrest and AD gets Drakelow Arrius and Farragut. Sound fair to you guys?

And EP you have no one to blame but yourselves

D Fresh

AD does not need to work with DC to get things done when we show up. I hope tonight was a reminder.

bitaken

Down with KC Chalman, but you guys get drakelowe - so we really should get Arrius - as Dragon is our home keep.

So, DC gets Arrius KC and Chalman, you guys get BRK, Drakelowe and Farra - you have the better of the EP keeps to defend to be quite honest. Farra is one of the best EP keeps to defend - no elevated ground - so is BRK, and drakelowe is portable for you - not for us.

I'm content with Chal, Arrius and Kings for sure!!

GRxKnight

bitaken wrote: »

Down with KC Chalman, but you guys get drakelowe - so we really should get Arrius - as Dragon is our home keep.

So, DC gets Arrius KC and Chalman, you guys get BRK, Drakelowe and Farra - you have the better of the EP keeps to defend to be quite honest. Farra is one of the best EP keeps to defend - no elevated ground - so is BRK, and drakelowe is portable for you - not for us.

I'm content with Chal, Arrius and Kings for sure!!

I just wanted transit to Arrius lol... But ya since I forgot about BRK we can take Drakelow BRK and Farragut and you guys can take Arrius Chalman and Kingscrest. I'll propose this to my guild when I get home or hopefully one of them sees this and suggests it. I'm sure they'd all for screwing red over given how they choose to play this game.

And yes I realize AD doesn't need to work with DC in order to do anything on the map. But it's a lot easier to pick on one faction without having to worry about what the other will do. We were working with DC last night prior to the trollback where everyone got their scrolls. Once red starts to play fair, as I've said, we can have a legit AvAvA and not AvAvExploit

quakedawg_ESO

Bunch of drama queens.

murtugo

I call them QQ queens