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Huntler

Nala_ wrote: »

zone chat last night:

DC1:DONT GO IN THAT CAVE
DC2: PUSH IN U NOOBS THEY HAV ARE SCROLLZ IN THERE
DC3: KILL THE EP OUTSIDE THE CAVE THEN GO IN THE CAVE
DC4: IM STANDING ON WHERE THE SCROLL IZ SUPPOSE 2 BE BUT THERE NOT HERE, IM REPORTING FOR HACKS
DC1: THEYRE IN THE CAVE ABOVE THE WATERFALL, YOU CANT JUST GO TO WHERE THE SCROLL IS ON THE MAP
DC4: THEY ARE HACK GUILD FROM ANOTHER CAMPAIGN OMG THEY ARE UP IN AIR FLYING SCROLL HOME PLZ REPORT
DC3: LET THEM FLY THE SCROLL HOME EP SUX ANYWAYS *** EP
DC2: OMG PUSH THE SCROLL U NOOBZ WTF THIS IS Y WE LOSE THIS CAMPAIGNS
DC1: WAIT FOR EP TO GO IN AND DIE BEFORE WE GO IN

5 minutes later.....SCROLL CAPTURED AT ALESSIA KEEP

DC3: WTF EP ATTACKED US AS DISTRACTION SO AD CAN CAP SCROLL THIS IS COLLABERATING WITH EACH FACTION
DC1: YOU GUYS ATTACKED EP AND THEY LEFT THE CAVE, WHY WOULD EP HELP THEM STEAL THEIR OWN SCROLL U IDIOT
DC4: NO U IDIOTS THEY FLEW SCROLL IN AIR HACKED IT TO ALESSIA, THEY ONLY FLEW ABOVE CAVE SO PPL FIGHT EACH OTHER
DC2: WE DIDNT PUSH THEM FAST ENOUGH I TOLD U NOOBZ
DC4: WTF REPORT THESE SCROLL HACKERS EVERYONE PLZ

and thats when most of the DC who came to help this *** server realized it was pointless and went back to thorneblade.

priceless

GRxKnight

Nala_ wrote: »

zone chat last night:

DC1:DONT GO IN THAT CAVE
DC2: PUSH IN U NOOBS THEY HAV ARE SCROLLZ IN THERE
DC3: KILL THE EP OUTSIDE THE CAVE THEN GO IN THE CAVE
DC4: IM STANDING ON WHERE THE SCROLL IZ SUPPOSE 2 BE BUT THERE NOT HERE, IM REPORTING FOR HACKS
DC1: THEYRE IN THE CAVE ABOVE THE WATERFALL, YOU CANT JUST GO TO WHERE THE SCROLL IS ON THE MAP
DC4: THEY ARE HACK GUILD FROM ANOTHER CAMPAIGN OMG THEY ARE UP IN AIR FLYING SCROLL HOME PLZ REPORT
DC3: LET THEM FLY THE SCROLL HOME EP SUX ANYWAYS *** EP
DC2: OMG PUSH THE SCROLL U NOOBZ WTF THIS IS Y WE LOSE THIS CAMPAIGNS
DC1: WAIT FOR EP TO GO IN AND DIE BEFORE WE GO IN

5 minutes later.....SCROLL CAPTURED AT ALESSIA KEEP

DC3: WTF EP ATTACKED US AS DISTRACTION SO AD CAN CAP SCROLL THIS IS COLLABERATING WITH EACH FACTION
DC1: YOU GUYS ATTACKED EP AND THEY LEFT THE CAVE, WHY WOULD EP HELP THEM STEAL THEIR OWN SCROLL U IDIOT
DC4: NO U IDIOTS THEY FLEW SCROLL IN AIR HACKED IT TO ALESSIA, THEY ONLY FLEW ABOVE CAVE SO PPL FIGHT EACH OTHER
DC2: WE DIDNT PUSH THEM FAST ENOUGH I TOLD U NOOBZ
DC4: WTF REPORT THESE SCROLL HACKERS EVERYONE PLZ

and thats when most of the DC who came to help this *** server realized it was pointless and went back to thorneblade.

You sir get a lol... That was funny

Manoekin

Nala_ wrote: »

zone chat last night:

DC1:DONT GO IN THAT CAVE
DC2: PUSH IN U NOOBS THEY HAV ARE SCROLLZ IN THERE
DC3: KILL THE EP OUTSIDE THE CAVE THEN GO IN THE CAVE
DC4: IM STANDING ON WHERE THE SCROLL IZ SUPPOSE 2 BE BUT THERE NOT HERE, IM REPORTING FOR HACKS
DC1: THEYRE IN THE CAVE ABOVE THE WATERFALL, YOU CANT JUST GO TO WHERE THE SCROLL IS ON THE MAP
DC4: THEY ARE HACK GUILD FROM ANOTHER CAMPAIGN OMG THEY ARE UP IN AIR FLYING SCROLL HOME PLZ REPORT
DC3: LET THEM FLY THE SCROLL HOME EP SUX ANYWAYS *** EP
DC2: OMG PUSH THE SCROLL U NOOBZ WTF THIS IS Y WE LOSE THIS CAMPAIGNS
DC1: WAIT FOR EP TO GO IN AND DIE BEFORE WE GO IN

5 minutes later.....SCROLL CAPTURED AT ALESSIA KEEP

DC3: WTF EP ATTACKED US AS DISTRACTION SO AD CAN CAP SCROLL THIS IS COLLABERATING WITH EACH FACTION
DC1: YOU GUYS ATTACKED EP AND THEY LEFT THE CAVE, WHY WOULD EP HELP THEM STEAL THEIR OWN SCROLL U IDIOT
DC4: NO U IDIOTS THEY FLEW SCROLL IN AIR HACKED IT TO ALESSIA, THEY ONLY FLEW ABOVE CAVE SO PPL FIGHT EACH OTHER
DC2: WE DIDNT PUSH THEM FAST ENOUGH I TOLD U NOOBZ
DC4: WTF REPORT THESE SCROLL HACKERS EVERYONE PLZ

and thats when most of the DC who came to help this *** server realized it was pointless and went back to thorneblade.

The sad thing is I'm sure it actually went something like this. Maybe this can become the most famous cave in the game now.

Amserauq

You didn't tell the DC players that the cave is a new PvP/PvE trial? AD hides scroll at the back and players have to run the gauntlet of oils/caltrops/vampire NPC's.

The reward is giving AP to us. Cheers.

Unlikely_Ghostbuster

GRxKnight wrote: »

Unlikely_Ghostbuster wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

This isn't about the map being completely red anymore although anyone can agree that stuff like that is unhealthy for any campaign. What it's now about is the continuous exploit camp placing that is causing AD and DC to keeps to EP who can't take a defended keep to save their life without cheating. Turn the map red? annoying but we'll deal with it. Continue to knowingly cheat in order to gain an advantage? That's just pathetic. Call us drama queens all you want but the fact of the matter is I have yet to see EP take a defended keep without cheating.

Uh, you've also failed to cite a single instance or an example of us cheating. It appears as though you're more intent on talking trash than talking exploits, which makes me think you're hoping the subject changes because *reasons* LOL.

Perhaps another cheater is scared of losing his alts! LOLOL. Cry me a river.

How about Drakelow yesterday when red was inside. My guild was there and we had an upper hand on the defense even with being outnumbered and all of a sudden a troll camp gets placed between Drake and Sejanus. So there's one example of it happening. It happens also quite a bit at Alessia when we're defending. All of a sudden we'll have a camp on the other side of the bridge and guess who's waiting for us to pop out.

And yes I do have an EP alt but the last time I logged on her was probably 3 months ago when I was considering joining EP to play with one of my former guilds. Guess which character I don't play anymore.

Now that I've given you an example, want to come up with another excuse and deny that EP drops troll camps like no other? I haven't heard of DC or AD troll camping but I'm sure it's happened. Though I've seen it happen a lot more via EP than the other two. Keep thinking that it's ONLY AD exploiting here though. I'm sure you can't see too far being under a ZOS desk.

LOLOL -- Oh please, do quote me saying EP doesn't use the exploit. Never said that, at all, anywhere, ever. In fact, all I've said conclusively was that DC *wasn't* using the exploit against EP, last night, while AD was definitely using it for their benefit.

I've *ONLY* ever talked about cheaters -- if you're supposing that all cheaters are in your alliance, that's no fault of mine (but says loads about how highly you regard your own faction). If that's the conclusion you drew when you heard about some of AD's most famous exploits, then maybe the shoe fits.

I'd apologize for the instance you're talking about, but I have nothing to apologize (or cover) for -- I don't have any alts in other factions. My friends and I speak to each other, so we were able to coordinate which alliance we wanted to join. I totally believe you when you say you haven't logged into your alt in three months, buddy. Totally. Whether or not I believe you is moot -- what the GMs believe is what matters, and they have access to all the information we players lack.

In all seriousness, if I knew what EP guild and/or player was behind EP's use of the exploit in question, you would be the 2nd to know who it was, as I'd first report them to ZOS. Constantly having to tweak the way this game functions to accommodate cheaters will continue to erode away the player base until there's nobody left to play with. That's why I despise cheaters, no matter what alliance they're in, because they're going to kill this game. Frankly, if they don't get a handle on the cross-alliance exploits before the Imperial Island drops, this game is done.

Ifthir_ESO

Triston wrote: »

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taxious wrote: »

WCFC only has all of about 8 aussies in the guild for the records, and we are not going anywhere.

Damn and after last night's (and most night's) inane zone chat I was really hoping you would.

Maybe if you guys stopped yapping so much you would learn a bit of tactics and start taking keeps. We had three down while you went on about how, what's the word...oh yes fabulous you all are.

I'm not in WCFC but let me tell you, the EP zone chat was full of *** from all guilds talking trash on WCFC. Its pathetic. I left Hijinx over the drama I've seen with this whole Chillrend/Bow debacle.

I ignored Warz who is someone I used to be in guild with, because he would not stop insulting WCFC in zone. Here you are, Triston, doing the same thing, then having the nerve to say they need to stop yapping? LOL at your hypocrisy.

EP zone in general needs to unclench and STFU and play the game already. The entire alliance is a disgrace to good gaming and sportsmanship in general, let alone courtesy to your fellow gamers.

Nala_

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

The entire alliance is a disgrace to good gaming and sportsmanship in general, let alone courtesy to your fellow gamers.

including you.

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

LOL at your hypocrisy.

LOL at your hypocrisy, how ironic

bitaken

/popcorn

EP had their buff server...for about 12 hours?

Now they are clinging to that emp for dear life?

AD has their scrolls...BTW - loved that EP guy who tried to hand off the scroll from Alessia and got jacked up by AD - made my morning

Triston

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Here you are, Triston, doing the same thing, then having the nerve to say they need to stop yapping? LOL at your hypocrisy.

The entire alliance is a disgrace to good gaming and sportsmanship in general, let alone courtesy to your fellow gamers.

First, what did I say that was so unsportsmanship? That there was a lot inane chatter from a group that believes they are peacocks all puffed up and pretty when they are simply...well I'll be nice.

Second, I'll try to simplify what I was trying to say.

I have no problem promoting ones guild or even self when 1 they actually achieve something and 2 "use good gaming and sportsmanship".

I have my zone chat turned off 90% of the time. I let my group leader lead us to what objective we are to attack/defend next and I follow and have a good time win or lose, but I heard on TS what "good gaming and sportsmanship" was happening in zone chat i had to turn it back on.

Soon they spam "FABULOUS" multiple times in zone (not the first time I've heard). And while it might provoke a few giggles from a few, it is obnoxious and immature. So my yapping was to try to make them understand that more action is needed and less


words are needed.

Illumous

All this drama over a game.

Triston

Illumous wrote: »

All this drama over a game.

I don't think it is drama. I think it is part of the meta game. And to be honest it is funny how serious people are taking this.
Isn't it fabulous?

GRxKnight

I just wish the EP would understand our frustration on the cheating that's going on, not say that troll camp placing is not an exploit but a game mechanic, and try just say l2p around it... Because you can't

I'm not saying that certain individuals on here have but I've gotten plenty of /tells saying basically this and it reflects really poorly on the alliance as a whole.

Ifthir_ESO

GRxKnight wrote: »

Once red starts to play fair, as I've said, we can have a legit AvAvA and not AvAvExploit

Yeah good thing you let us know red is the only team to exploit ever.

You said it on the internet, it must be true.

GRxKnight

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Once red starts to play fair, as I've said, we can have a legit AvAvA and not AvAvExploit

Yeah good thing you let us know red is the only team to exploit ever.

You said it on the internet, it must be true.

I've only been able to play for 4 hours a day and I didn't play Monday so my knowledge of who has done what on this campaign definitely is biased. However in that time that I've played the only thing I've seen happen is the intentional troll camp placing whenever EP is attacking a keep.

So yes a small sample and I can't speak for the rest of the time but I can pretty much guess from what's been posted before all of this everyone's frustration is directed at EP and only a small handful at DC/AD. As I've said I'm definitely sure there has been some AD exploits in this campaign. Last night even there was an AD camp behind the ghartok gate and I have no idea who that was but I made sure to tell zone it was an exploit.

Also feel free to keep citing all of these exploits that AD did back in Auriel's Bow. This is neither AB nor the same group of AD from there so all of these "justified" exploits you're supposedly referring to holds no value here. There's no direct correlation to those events and the ones EP are doing.

Nala_

GRxKnight wrote: »

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Once red starts to play fair, as I've said, we can have a legit AvAvA and not AvAvExploit

Yeah good thing you let us know red is the only team to exploit ever.

You said it on the internet, it must be true.

I've only been able to play for 4 hours a day and I didn't play Monday so my knowledge of who has done what on this campaign definitely is biased. However in that time that I've played the only thing I've seen happen is the intentional troll camp placing whenever EP is attacking a keep.

So yes a small sample and I can't speak for the rest of the time but I can pretty much guess from what's been posted before all of this everyone's frustration is directed at EP and only a small handful at DC/AD. As I've said I'm definitely sure there has been some AD exploits in this campaign. Last night even there was an AD camp behind the ghartok gate and I have no idea who that was but I made sure to tell zone it was an exploit.

Also feel free to keep citing all of these exploits that AD did back in Auriel's Bow. This is neither AB nor the same group of AD from there so all of these "justified" exploits you're supposedly referring to holds no value here. There's no direct correlation to those events and the ones EP are doing.

putting a camp behind the scroll gate isnt an exploit, putting the camp in THEIR STARTER ZONE is the exploit, wheeler even said this in the entire thread dedicated to it

Tripwyr

Guys, all it takes is a single player annoyed at his own faction to start placing troll camps. It is not helpful to assume the other faction is cheating.

Additionally, if it is the other faction, it is still only a single player. It only takes one players who feels "all is fair in love and war" to place a troll camp. That one player does not represent the entire faction.

Finally, all 3 factions suffer from the troll camp plague. When one goes up, spawn at it and report the player who placed it. We've already had 3 troll campers on the AD side of Thornblade suspended, troll camping is against the rules.

GRxKnight

Nala_ wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Once red starts to play fair, as I've said, we can have a legit AvAvA and not AvAvExploit

Yeah good thing you let us know red is the only team to exploit ever.

You said it on the internet, it must be true.

I've only been able to play for 4 hours a day and I didn't play Monday so my knowledge of who has done what on this campaign definitely is biased. However in that time that I've played the only thing I've seen happen is the intentional troll camp placing whenever EP is attacking a keep.

So yes a small sample and I can't speak for the rest of the time but I can pretty much guess from what's been posted before all of this everyone's frustration is directed at EP and only a small handful at DC/AD. As I've said I'm definitely sure there has been some AD exploits in this campaign. Last night even there was an AD camp behind the ghartok gate and I have no idea who that was but I made sure to tell zone it was an exploit.

Also feel free to keep citing all of these exploits that AD did back in Auriel's Bow. This is neither AB nor the same group of AD from there so all of these "justified" exploits you're supposedly referring to holds no value here. There's no direct correlation to those events and the ones EP are doing.

putting a camp behind the scroll gate isnt an exploit, putting the camp in THEIR STARTER ZONE is the exploit, wheeler even said this in the entire thread dedicated to it

Ahhh ok thanks for the clarification. I didn't have time to look at where the camp was relative to the gate/starter location so I'm not entirely sure which category it fell under then.

Ifthir_ESO

Great post @Tripwyr‌

see you in game

Nala_

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Great post @Tripwyr‌

see you in game

except he cant see you in game because youre afraid to tell anyone your name

Aminals

Every time I see one of those groups who hide behind resource guards because they can't actually take keeps, this is what I think of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gSQg1i_q2g

GRxKnight

Aminals wrote: »

Every time I see one of those groups who hide behind resource guards because they can't actually take keeps, this is what I think of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gSQg1i_q2g

Seems like EP when they turtle.

Aoe_Barbecue

Nala_ wrote: »

except he cant see you in game because youre afraid to tell anyone your name

None of us know who you are either. Tu quoque meng. Fess up already!

GRxKnight

weird double post

Halrloprillalar

I actually don't mind the current EP emp... he is crunchy

Huntler

GRxKnight wrote: »

Last night even there was an AD camp behind the ghartok gate and I have no idea who that was but I made sure to tell zone it was an exploit.

I ask that in the future, since it was pointed out that Zeni has clearly stated this is not an exploit and completely fine if the gates are down and the camp is NOT in the starter area (which last night it wasn't), that you please be more careful/dilligent about claiming exploits both on the forums and in game. This forum/game is plagued with people crying cheating/exploits when they don't even know what an exploit is or if something is an exploit. They simply prefer to say I don't understand why I lost, it must be exploits (or some version of this). I am not upset, I understand it is basic human nature, but since you seem like a reasonable people who now knows that this was indeed not an exploit, that in the future you be a little more careful on what you claim is an exploit its better for the health of the game and if you are not sure there are always people happy to answer your question.

GRxKnight

Huntler wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Last night even there was an AD camp behind the ghartok gate and I have no idea who that was but I made sure to tell zone it was an exploit.

I ask that in the future, since it was pointed out that Zeni has clearly stated this is not an exploit and completely fine if the gates are down and the camp is NOT in the starter area (which last night it wasn't), that you please be more careful/dilligent about claiming exploits both on the forums and in game. This forum/game is plagued with people crying cheating/exploits when they don't even know what an exploit is or if something is an exploit. They simply prefer to say I don't understand why I lost, it must be exploits (or some version of this). I am not upset, I understand it is basic human nature, but since you seem like a reasonable people who now knows that this was indeed not an exploit, that in the future you be a little more careful on what you claim is an exploit its better for the health of the game and if you are not sure there are always people happy to answer your question.

I just remember the same thing happening over in TB a couple weeks ago. A group of people took the Chim scroll while the gate was closed and AD (the group that took the scroll as well) immediately cried exploit. It seemed like it would be in that case because there should be no way to get through a gate that is closed, place a camp down, have a group suicide to take said camp and then ninja a scroll that way.

Granted the run failed but it raises the question then if it is not an exploit to do the above then why haven't we seen more tactics like this? It sounds very exploity to me.

Nala_

its hard to even justify what is an exploit these days, the community manager in this game should have made a post stickied on the forums of what KNOWN exploits were, and said that they actively ban for them. then update the list as more exploits came out, and remove them once patched.

Huntler

The big differentiation is whether the gate is open or not. Last night the gate was open. The example you give back on TB, as you mentioned, the gate was closed.

If its closed, exploiting past the gate to put a camp down is considered cheating and a bannable offense. Putting a camp down when the gates are open is not As mentioned there is a thread with Wheeler explaining this that I am sure you can scrounge up

Nala_

GRxKnight wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Last night even there was an AD camp behind the ghartok gate and I have no idea who that was but I made sure to tell zone it was an exploit.

I ask that in the future, since it was pointed out that Zeni has clearly stated this is not an exploit and completely fine if the gates are down and the camp is NOT in the starter area (which last night it wasn't), that you please be more careful/dilligent about claiming exploits both on the forums and in game. This forum/game is plagued with people crying cheating/exploits when they don't even know what an exploit is or if something is an exploit. They simply prefer to say I don't understand why I lost, it must be exploits (or some version of this). I am not upset, I understand it is basic human nature, but since you seem like a reasonable people who now knows that this was indeed not an exploit, that in the future you be a little more careful on what you claim is an exploit its better for the health of the game and if you are not sure there are always people happy to answer your question.

I just remember the same thing happening over in TB a couple weeks ago. A group of people took the Chim scroll while the gate was closed and AD (the group that took the scroll as well) immediately cried exploit. It seemed like it would be in that case because there should be no way to get through a gate that is closed, place a camp down, have a group suicide to take said camp and then ninja a scroll that way.

Granted the run failed but it raises the question then if it is not an exploit to do the above then why haven't we seen more tactics like this? It sounds very exploity to me.

well the server crashed while DC owned farragut, so when it came back up AD just piled into the open gate and threw down a camp. if the gate is open then its not even a question about whether or not its legal. i mean wheeler himself even said its fine if some random occurance happened when the gate was CLOSED.

as long as its not the STARTING AREA, its game

Redfer

lol still funny red can only push out and do stuff when theyre at 3x the other factions ( 3 bars to 1/1) and they pretty much all suck too! X3