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bitaken

This campaign has become a good joke. It was a fun competitive campaign - but since DC took over Bow all of EP has come here looking to create a buff server for their PvE.

I'm going to make a post concerning the "guest" and "travel to" and how they ruin the PvP in this game entirely. I do not think that removing the buffs when you are not in the campaign is going to solve the problem. I'll link it here when I do.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/127962/the-campaigns-what-s-wrong-with-them-how-to-fix-them?new=1

GRxKnight

I can say that TKO isn't going anywhere and we plan on making all of DC and EP fear/respect us if you don't already. See you all at Farragut/Aleswell.

MonkeyAssassin24

EvilEmpire wrote: »

Personally, I think I'm done with this campaign. I signed in this morning and it being all red is a joke. There's zero fun in that and every night they do the same thing while most everyone else is asleep. When there are battles, it's just an impulse train from the red team, and that creating skill locks and crashes is getting way too frustrating. Also the fact that DC is pretty unorganized for most of the time doesn't help the matter. Even when DC does start pushing back, all of a sudden there's a huge influx of red.
I want to find a good, competitive campaign. Being outnumbered by EP 3:1 in nearly every battle, even when we do stomp the *** out of them most of the time (literally, the only strategy I've seen them use is the Impulse/Bat Swarm joke), gets frustrating because of what was mentioned above.

That's funny, because almost every time I die to DC groups it's from Impulse or Swarm. The truth is, EVERY alliance has blob groups that spam these two abilities (there is one DC group that literally looks like an alien hive swarm surrounded with bats, fire, and heals).

All this complaining about the map is funny as well. I remember before the previous campaign ended, DC would take over the map during the day and crown a new Emp with EP/AD at low pop, and then during prime time it would actually become competitive. Now though, we have not even had more than 24 hours of a red map and it's the end of the world?

EvilEmpire

Triston wrote: »

You realize that 90% of the Pact could care less of what happens during the day since we are at work. However it would be ludicrous (not the rapper) to think if the roles were switched you'd turn the map blue or yellow if given the chance. It is a competition and we all want to win.

"The art of using troops is this:
When ten to the enemy’s one, surround him;
When five times his strength, attack him;
If double his strength, divide him;
If equally matched you may engage him;
If weaker numerically, be capable of withdrawing;

And if in all respects unequal, be capable of eluding him,
for a small force is but booty for one more powerful.”

Sun Tzu - Art of War

Sounds like Sun Tzu understood the value of AP!

Instead of leaving and giving up, implore your guildies and factions not to abandon the campaign and bring on the fight.

Maybe because it is my age, but it seems this younger generation rather give up and move on rather than buckle down and face a challenge. Shrug.


Rolling with TC baby!

err...I'm 35 and work during the day too. I play from 5-6pm to about 11pm est. During that time, it's usually relatively fun battles (minus the impulse trains crashing and locking skills). However, from midnight to morning is when most of the EP actually does their keep taking, because no one is on to defend them, so don't act like it's a challenge.

MonkeyAssassin24

EvilEmpire wrote: »

Triston wrote: »

You realize that 90% of the Pact could care less of what happens during the day since we are at work. However it would be ludicrous (not the rapper) to think if the roles were switched you'd turn the map blue or yellow if given the chance. It is a competition and we all want to win.

"The art of using troops is this:
When ten to the enemy’s one, surround him;
When five times his strength, attack him;
If double his strength, divide him;
If equally matched you may engage him;
If weaker numerically, be capable of withdrawing;

And if in all respects unequal, be capable of eluding him,
for a small force is but booty for one more powerful.”

Sun Tzu - Art of War

Sounds like Sun Tzu understood the value of AP!

Instead of leaving and giving up, implore your guildies and factions not to abandon the campaign and bring on the fight.

Maybe because it is my age, but it seems this younger generation rather give up and move on rather than buckle down and face a challenge. Shrug.


Rolling with TC baby!

err...I'm 35 and work during the day too. I play from 5-6pm to about 11pm est. During that time, it's usually relatively fun battles (minus the impulse trains crashing and locking skills). However, from midnight to morning is when most of the EP actually does their keep taking, because no one is on to defend them, so don't act like it's a challenge.

My memory may be jumbled right now (lack of sleep/too much work) but I'm pretty sure EP did their keep taking from early afternoon EST and defended it pretty much in its entirety until I logged off at 8. Like I said...I may be wrong, but even if I am, the map was held going into prime time, unlike the previous campaign where EP/AD would push the daytime blues back once most of them logged on in the evening.

EvilEmpire

MonkeyAssassin24 wrote: »

That's funny, because almost every time I die to DC groups it's from Impulse or Swarm. The truth is, EVERY alliance has blob groups that spam these two abilities (there is one DC group that literally looks like an alien hive swarm surrounded with bats, fire, and heals).

All this complaining about the map is funny as well. I remember before the previous campaign ended, DC would take over the map during the day and crown a new Emp with EP/AD at low pop, and then during prime time it would actually become competitive. Now though, we have not even had more than 24 hours of a red map and it's the end of the world?

I didn't say it was the end of the world. I said it wasn't fun. On days when I played during the daytime, it was still relatively competitive. But for 'prime time', when EP still outnumbers DC at least 2:1 (often 3:1 lately) in most battles, it's still fun and competitive. But the point is, it's not fun when every keep gets taken in the middle of the night. That's not what I would call competition.

I like a good, competitive fight. I don't mind if a keep gets lost if the other side fought like hell to take it. I do blame a good bit of the issues with this campaign on lack of organization from the DC side - i.e. I was with a random group and after slaughtering some EP, they all said 'let's take the keep!', and we show up with 20 ppl and I was the only one with seige gear on me. Meh, it happens. Great fighters, just didn't have the organization it needed. Then eventually the 20 ppl defending the keep turned into 50, and the impulse train came out and wiped us.

I just want to find a good campaign that has great action from all sides, and this one isn't it, which is why I said what I said.

GRxKnight

MonkeyAssassin24 wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

Triston wrote: »

You realize that 90% of the Pact could care less of what happens during the day since we are at work. However it would be ludicrous (not the rapper) to think if the roles were switched you'd turn the map blue or yellow if given the chance. It is a competition and we all want to win.

"The art of using troops is this:
When ten to the enemy’s one, surround him;
When five times his strength, attack him;
If double his strength, divide him;
If equally matched you may engage him;
If weaker numerically, be capable of withdrawing;

And if in all respects unequal, be capable of eluding him,
for a small force is but booty for one more powerful.”

Sun Tzu - Art of War

Sounds like Sun Tzu understood the value of AP!

Instead of leaving and giving up, implore your guildies and factions not to abandon the campaign and bring on the fight.

Maybe because it is my age, but it seems this younger generation rather give up and move on rather than buckle down and face a challenge. Shrug.


Rolling with TC baby!

err...I'm 35 and work during the day too. I play from 5-6pm to about 11pm est. During that time, it's usually relatively fun battles (minus the impulse trains crashing and locking skills). However, from midnight to morning is when most of the EP actually does their keep taking, because no one is on to defend them, so don't act like it's a challenge.

My memory may be jumbled right now (lack of sleep/too much work) but I'm pretty sure EP did their keep taking from early afternoon EST and defended it pretty much in its entirety until I logged off at 8. Like I said...I may be wrong, but even if I am, the map was held going into prime time, unlike the previous campaign where EP/AD would push the daytime blues back once most of them logged on in the evening.

You realize though that some people when they see a red map and don't even want to play because they realize/know that whatever they flip will just get flipped back the next morning with barely anyone on to defend. This was the same problem that happened over on Dawnbreaker. It's by no means the proper response and is just plain cowardice but it's what definitely happens. Look what happened to BoS and haderus. One turned red in a short time and the other yellow and it's been like that ever since.

Point I'm trying to make is that it gets disheartening for the Fairweathers when they see a map all one color and don't even want to try, making it harder for a large gold to do anything. Just food for thought

Glantris

it's one thing to roll over the map in prime time, giving opportunities for the other faction to push back, and then it's another to kill a campaign by quashing any small resistance that forms; rolling with a 20-MAN GROUP over 4 people taking the faction's first resource, erasing all campaign progress overnight and forcing both factions to start again each day. i've seen this before and i'm not here to do another bloodthorn. three guilds that i know of have already moved and none i know of apart from tko have definite plans to stay. forcing everyone to move to thornblade, an already-packed campaign, in order to get ANYTHING done is a nice idea too. very well-thought out. clearly you had your best minds on this.

making everyone move campaigns because you wanted to pvdoor every night and feel good about taking undefended keeps because every time you face any resistance whatsoever you repeatedly wipe seems like a pretty hollow victory if you ask me. you know who you are.

later.

Mjollo

Oh no, I hate it as much as you when people spam impulse/batswarm but you can't tell me EP is the only Alliance that does it when that's the very reason i prefer small gank/sabotage rather than farming keeps.
I'm not defending EP. I'm simply suggesting that if you really want to crush our spirits, fight harder. Invite more people to create larger, organized groups. EP was not organized at all until the last half of season 1 of Chillrend. Yes, some people can be quite the pest and jump over from their home to guest here with those bonuses but i guarantee even with those bonuses, if AD and DC keep up the pressure, one of them is going to push through our defenses while we maintain the other. two is always better than one. It already happened last night to prove it works.

P.S. I hope you all realize that as long as you can guest campaigns, when everyone leaves and EP conquers all of Chillrend, what do you think they are going to do next when they get bored + have all the bonuses? Oh, that's right. Guest to thornblade and the game starts all over again.

Arkath

To the scholarly gentleman who certainly must have graduated top of his class at West Point - I can say that in the first Chillrend cycle and Dawnbreaker prior to that, blue absolutely had the opportunity to take and hold the map to a far greater extent than it did during daytime hours. I think it is ludicrous that you think it is ludicrous that anyone could ever show restraint to keep the campaign healthy and alive, rather than stomp it dead 4 teh winz.

However, it doesn't take a master tactician to understand that beating your enemy to the gates and holding them there isn't fun for any (normal) person, giving or receiving. Yes, it will win the campaign. Woohoo, right?

Sorry, but I would rather have an enemy to fight, so pvp remains pvp, than win by the largest possible margin against no one. Perhaps that's because some of my competition have earned my respect, and I view them as human beings. Or maybe because my judgment isn't clouded by a nerdrage-induced need for self-validation through the virtual annihilation of pixelated representations of my middle school bullies.

If only Rodney King were here to pull us out of this mess.

Agrippa_Invisus

Arkath wrote: »

To the scholarly gentleman who certainly must have graduated top of his class at West Point - I can say that in the first Chillrend cycle and Dawnbreaker prior to that, blue absolutely had the opportunity to take and hold the map to a far greater extent than it did during daytime hours. I think it is ludicrous that you think it is ludicrous that anyone could ever show restraint to keep the campaign healthy and alive, rather than stomp it dead 4 teh winz.

However, it doesn't take a master tactician to understand that beating your enemy to the gates and holding them there isn't fun for any (normal) person, giving or receiving. Yes, it will win the campaign. Woohoo, right?

Sorry, but I would rather have an enemy to fight, so pvp remains pvp, than win by the largest possible margin against no one. Perhaps that's because some of my competition have earned my respect, and I view them as human beings. Or maybe because my judgment isn't clouded by a nerdrage-induced need for self-validation through the virtual annihilation of pixelated representations of my middle school bullies.

If only Rodney King were here to pull us out of this mess.

My sentiments as well. We were on the receiving end with Bloodthorn and are stepping away from being a part of it on Chillrend.

One of my (least) favorite moments was seeing Zergmother Natalie Mayweather leading 40-50 DC against Drakelowe (the only non blue keep), with it's 2 defenders, at 9am Central on Father's Day. That's when I knew it would never stop on that server. It became all about farming and achieving what objectives we could.

Unfortunately the EP of Chill have had a lot of armchair generals who think 'this is war!' (instead of a video game. Did you even serve, brah?) and are begging to 'let's go for overkill' in regards to opening empty gates and capping Brindle, the most strategically unimportant keep on the map.

It's sickening. I hate my Alliance right now.

Lord_Draevan

It seems that EP and DC essentially switched places. DC was unchallenged on Chillrend, EP was unchallenged on Bow of Shadows.
Then on Monday, DC caps all of Bow of Shadows while EP caps all of Chillrend.
Heaven forfend these two groups meet on the same server and fight each other! It might actually be PvP! Perish the thought...

Shaggygaming

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

It seems that EP and DC essentially switched places. DC was unchallenged on Chillrend, EP was unchallenged on Bow of Shadows.
Then on Monday, DC caps all of Bow of Shadows while EP caps all of Chillrend.
Heaven forfend these two groups meet on the same server and fight each other! It might actually be PvP! Perish the thought...

They do. It is called Thornblade.

Aoe_Barbecue

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

It seems that EP and DC essentially switched places. DC was unchallenged on Chillrend, EP was unchallenged on Bow of Shadows.
Then on Monday, DC caps all of Bow of Shadows while EP caps all of Chillrend.
Heaven forfend these two groups meet on the same server and fight each other! It might actually be PvP! Perish the thought...

It happened all the time on Thornblade. Then the EP on Thornblade up and split off to redder pastures, e.g. Chillrend. (EP daycapped Chillrend and generally dominated scores before their exodus.) It is not as if Bow of Shadows was uncontested either. On Tuesday, a significant amount of EP (50? 60 maybe?) attempted to reclaim it only to dash themselves against the granite block that is No Mercy.

KingKrotha

"Gather Round Ye Peasants"!

"Your All Mighty King Krotha has declared this day a most magnificent of days! For he has decided to bless you with his tangiate words of benevolence!"

"Gather around my chillrends and bask in our glory! For we are united and shall consume those who partake in the Green. Begone ye haters and most despised defilers. We are the wolves who devour the shameful and gorge on the weak. Guard your keeps and hide your strife. We shall caste thou wicked demons to extinction and sit on the face of oblivion! Your cries empower our discouraged, your weakness tantalizes our masses. You cannot hide from our might!"

"I summon the legions from the far reaches to gather here and claim this title! "

Red is Dead

-King Krotha

"Wabbajack, Never Forget"

P.S.

The map is red [WCFC] with Love!

GRxKnight

@Defialed‌ See the problem isn't with guesting though. My guild homed on haderus and didn't find any resistance so we came here and homed here at the end of the last rotation. The problem lies with the group of EP (and I have a feeling it's the same group that did it on Dawnbreaker) PvDooring and forcing the other two factions to have to first regain everything before either can make any moves of their own. From what I've come to understand based on experience is that DC is strong during prinetime, AD is strong during primetime, and EP decides which keep they will turtle in for the day until all of DC and AD log off and repeat the process all over again. The only time I see red outside of a keep is if it's a small force, Hijinx, or a group lead by an idiot that wipes to my guild and calls us bad (try and figure that one out). Red only turtles and the majority of the red population aside from Hijinx usually is pathetic. Sorry to say but that's based on numerous encounters with red and we've only had a challenge with Hijinx.

Lord_Draevan

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

It seems that EP and DC essentially switched places. DC was unchallenged on Chillrend, EP was unchallenged on Bow of Shadows.
Then on Monday, DC caps all of Bow of Shadows while EP caps all of Chillrend.
Heaven forfend these two groups meet on the same server and fight each other! It might actually be PvP! Perish the thought...

It happened all the time on Thornblade. Then the EP on Thornblade up and split off to redder pastures, e.g. Chillrend. (EP daycapped Chillrend and generally dominated scores before their exodus.) It is not as if Bow of Shadows was uncontested either. On Tuesday, a significant amount of EP (50? 60 maybe?) attempted to reclaim it only to dash themselves against the granite block that is No Mercy.

Then they gave up and went back to Chilldrend XD

Observant

KingKrotha wrote: »

"Gather Round Ye Peasants"!

"Your All Mighty King Krotha has declared this day a most magnificent of days! For he has decided to bless you with his tangiate words of benevolence!"

"Gather around my chillrends and bask in our glory! For we are united and shall consume those who partake in the Green. Begone ye haters and most despised defilers. We are the wolves who devour the shameful and gorge on the weak. Guard your keeps and hide your strife. We shall caste thou wicked demons to extinction and sit on the face of oblivion! Your cries empower our discouraged, your weakness tantalizes our masses. You cannot hide from our might!"

"I summon the legions from the far reaches to gather here and claim this title! "

Red is Dead

-King Krotha

"Wabbajack, Never Forget"

P.S.

The map is red [WCFC] with Love!

I think you sound like Jim Jones.

Anyone want an 8v8 versus EP tonight? Message me in game.
Also willing to do 4v4 on Blackwater Blade.
@Observant‌

Mjollo

@GRxKnight Right. Unfortunately, This particular group of players will not stop what they are doing even though it will inevitably ruin the entire campaign for everyone. Until ZOS applies the updates for 1.4, this will continue to proceed as it does. This is why I wish to encourage others not to give up on Chillrend and instead fight fire with fire. Bring your best players in here and help push back so that the rest of us can actually enjoy the campaign before it's too late and then the zergs roll over to Thornblade and ruin the other great campaign.

Arkath

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

It seems that EP and DC essentially switched places. DC was unchallenged on Chillrend, EP was unchallenged on Bow of Shadows.
Then on Monday, DC caps all of Bow of Shadows while EP caps all of Chillrend.
Heaven forfend these two groups meet on the same server and fight each other! It might actually be PvP! Perish the thought...

AD was in the lead here. No one faction was particularly dominating. Not sure what you're talking about.

Lord_Draevan

Arkath wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

It seems that EP and DC essentially switched places. DC was unchallenged on Chillrend, EP was unchallenged on Bow of Shadows.
Then on Monday, DC caps all of Bow of Shadows while EP caps all of Chillrend.
Heaven forfend these two groups meet on the same server and fight each other! It might actually be PvP! Perish the thought...

EP was in the lead here already. Not sure what you're talking about.

Really? Reading the comments on this thread, I thought DC was in the lead there. Or was that only during the first round?

Braidas

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Arkath wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

It seems that EP and DC essentially switched places. DC was unchallenged on Chillrend, EP was unchallenged on Bow of Shadows.
Then on Monday, DC caps all of Bow of Shadows while EP caps all of Chillrend.
Heaven forfend these two groups meet on the same server and fight each other! It might actually be PvP! Perish the thought...

EP was in the lead here already. Not sure what you're talking about.

Really? Reading the comments on this thread, I thought DC was in the lead there. Or was that only during the first round?

DC's never been in the lead.

Lord_Draevan

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Arkath wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

It seems that EP and DC essentially switched places. DC was unchallenged on Chillrend, EP was unchallenged on Bow of Shadows.
Then on Monday, DC caps all of Bow of Shadows while EP caps all of Chillrend.
Heaven forfend these two groups meet on the same server and fight each other! It might actually be PvP! Perish the thought...

EP was in the lead here already. Not sure what you're talking about.

Really? Reading the comments on this thread, I thought DC was in the lead there. Or was that only during the first round?

DC's never been in the lead.

Oh, I assumed from Arkath's comment of
"I can say that in the first Chillrend cycle and Dawnbreaker prior to that, blue absolutely had the opportunity to take and hold the map to a far greater extent than it did during daytime hours."
that they had been in the lead. Never mind, then.

Braidas

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Arkath wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

It seems that EP and DC essentially switched places. DC was unchallenged on Chillrend, EP was unchallenged on Bow of Shadows.
Then on Monday, DC caps all of Bow of Shadows while EP caps all of Chillrend.
Heaven forfend these two groups meet on the same server and fight each other! It might actually be PvP! Perish the thought...

EP was in the lead here already. Not sure what you're talking about.

Really? Reading the comments on this thread, I thought DC was in the lead there. Or was that only during the first round?

DC's never been in the lead.

Oh, I assumed from Arkath's comment of
"I can say that in the first Chillrend cycle and Dawnbreaker prior to that, blue absolutely had the opportunity to take and hold the map to a far greater extent than it did during daytime hours."
that they had been in the lead. Never mind, then.

On DB we led, on Chill we let most of the map be, aside from the inner ring.

Arkath

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Arkath wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

It seems that EP and DC essentially switched places. DC was unchallenged on Chillrend, EP was unchallenged on Bow of Shadows.
Then on Monday, DC caps all of Bow of Shadows while EP caps all of Chillrend.
Heaven forfend these two groups meet on the same server and fight each other! It might actually be PvP! Perish the thought...

EP was in the lead here already. Not sure what you're talking about.

Really? Reading the comments on this thread, I thought DC was in the lead there. Or was that only during the first round?

Edited my comment after I caught my mistake before reading your post.

A rundown on Chillrend from my perspective:

First week of last campaign, DC had stronger presence during the day. DC and EP were strong during primetime, AD's numbers weren't so great. EP dominated during oceanic hours. 2nd week of that campaign, more EP move in with enough numbers to control the map most of the day, except primetime when pops locked, and continued to control the map overnight. Won the campaign by a landslide.

In the short time since campaign reset, it was actually looking pretty fun. AD had highest score, but all factions were locking during primetime. It appeared to be heading into an enjoyable two weeks.

Essentially, first round of Chillrend was EP heavy, but bearable.

Lord_Draevan

Arkath wrote: »

Edited my comment after I caught my mistake before reading your post.

A rundown on Chillrend from my perspective:

First week of last campaign, DC had stronger presence during the day. DC and EP were strong during primetime, AD's numbers weren't so great. EP dominated during oceanic hours. 2nd week of that campaign, more EP move in with enough numbers to control the map most of the day, except primetime when pops locked, and continued to control the map overnight. Won the campaign by a landslide.

In the short time since campaign reset, it was actually looking pretty fun. AD had highest score, but all factions were locking during primetime. It appeared to be heading into an enjoyable two weeks.

Essentially, first round of Chillrend was EP heavy, but bearable.

Damn. I was considering moving over to Chillrend since Thornblade's nothing but AoE/Immovable blob-fest, but if Chillrend is just an EP dominated-fest it won't be much better

Arkath

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Arkath wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

It seems that EP and DC essentially switched places. DC was unchallenged on Chillrend, EP was unchallenged on Bow of Shadows.
Then on Monday, DC caps all of Bow of Shadows while EP caps all of Chillrend.
Heaven forfend these two groups meet on the same server and fight each other! It might actually be PvP! Perish the thought...

EP was in the lead here already. Not sure what you're talking about.

Really? Reading the comments on this thread, I thought DC was in the lead there. Or was that only during the first round?

DC's never been in the lead.

Oh, I assumed from Arkath's comment of
"I can say that in the first Chillrend cycle and Dawnbreaker prior to that, blue absolutely had the opportunity to take and hold the map to a far greater extent than it did during daytime hours."
that they had been in the lead. Never mind, then.

Right, sorry if I wasn't clear there. I was referring to DB and the earlier part of Chillrend round one.

Ifthir_ESO

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

On Tuesday, a significant amount of EP (50? 60 maybe?) attempted to reclaim it only to dash themselves against the granite block that is No Mercy.

I do believe that it was 50 pugs and maybe one or two coordinated groups of 3 or more, but whatever, you guys pretty much PvDoor'd that server in the first place just like EP did originally.

EvilEmpire wrote: »

every night they do the same thing while most everyone else is asleep. When there are battles, it's just an impulse train from the red team, and that creating skill locks and crashes is getting way too frustrating.

Maybe you should look into this thing called perspective. You call people doing it overnight bad, well the people who are in daytime when its nighttime here, think the same. Start looking at it from some perspective other than your own.

Also LOL @ Red being the only impulse spamming team. Funniest joke I heard all day.

EvilEmpire

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Maybe you should look into this thing called perspective. You call people doing it overnight bad, well the people who are in daytime when its nighttime here, think the same. Start looking at it from some perspective other than your own.

Also LOL @ Red being the only impulse spamming team. Funniest joke I heard all day.

During the daytimes I played, there was still a healthy EP population...and that's when it was it pretty good fighting. After work on east coast was still pretty good balanced fighting. Obviously the later it got, the more red zerg would come.


since you think it's so funny, let me guess....you're a vampire sorc?

I've got plenty of perspective on this matter and have made my decision. Good luck, tough guy. Keep having fun fighting NPCs!

Braidas

MonkeyAssassin24 wrote: »

All this complaining about the map is funny as well. I remember before the previous campaign ended, DC would take over the map during the day and crown a new Emp with EP/AD at low pop, and then during prime time it would actually become competitive. Now though, we have not even had more than 24 hours of a red map and it's the end of the world?

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Maybe you should look into this thing called perspective. You call people doing it overnight bad, well the people who are in daytime when its nighttime here, think the same. Start looking at it from some perspective other than your own.

To be clear, it's only ever been one group of no more than 24 DC that has taken control of the map in the daytime (ofc there are always scattered pugs, but only once or twice when it gets later in the day have we had any semblance of help). On DB, competition was much less at those hours, but still existent. On Chill, our crownings have been anything but easy. We're often outnumbered and take many hours to get the full ring. Multiple times we've had to backcap EP/AD to get them off a keep and race back to speedcap before we lose Chal, Alessia, etc. We even had Yote feint a scroll run once. The last keep is always an epic battle. To say it's the same as what EP does is ridiculous.