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Halrloprillalar

Nala_ wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Last night even there was an AD camp behind the ghartok gate and I have no idea who that was but I made sure to tell zone it was an exploit.

I ask that in the future, since it was pointed out that Zeni has clearly stated this is not an exploit and completely fine if the gates are down and the camp is NOT in the starter area (which last night it wasn't), that you please be more careful/dilligent about claiming exploits both on the forums and in game. This forum/game is plagued with people crying cheating/exploits when they don't even know what an exploit is or if something is an exploit. They simply prefer to say I don't understand why I lost, it must be exploits (or some version of this). I am not upset, I understand it is basic human nature, but since you seem like a reasonable people who now knows that this was indeed not an exploit, that in the future you be a little more careful on what you claim is an exploit its better for the health of the game and if you are not sure there are always people happy to answer your question.

I just remember the same thing happening over in TB a couple weeks ago. A group of people took the Chim scroll while the gate was closed and AD (the group that took the scroll as well) immediately cried exploit. It seemed like it would be in that case because there should be no way to get through a gate that is closed, place a camp down, have a group suicide to take said camp and then ninja a scroll that way.

Granted the run failed but it raises the question then if it is not an exploit to do the above then why haven't we seen more tactics like this? It sounds very exploity to me.

well the server crashed while DC owned farragut, so when it came back up AD just piled into the open gate and threw down a camp. if the gate is open then its not even a question about whether or not its legal. i mean wheeler himself even said its fine if some random occurance happened when the gate was CLOSED.

as long as its not the STARTING AREA, its game

No, it completely removes the whole point of a gate.

It's like being able to drop enemy camps inside keeps.

Aminals

GRxKnight wrote: »

Aminals wrote: »

Every time I see one of those groups who hide behind resource guards because they can't actually take keeps, this is what I think of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gSQg1i_q2g

Seems like EP when they turtle.

nope this is our view of all you 'leet' guilds who stack up and spam one button. oh there's 30 dudes standing around killing pugs at that farm? solution: don't go to the *** farm

GRxKnight

Aminals wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Aminals wrote: »

Every time I see one of those groups who hide behind resource guards because they can't actually take keeps, this is what I think of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gSQg1i_q2g

Seems like EP when they turtle.

nope this is our view of all you 'leet' guilds who stack up and spam one button. oh there's 30 dudes standing around killing pugs at that farm? solution: don't go to the *** farm

Well I can't say that my guild doesn't do the occasional "stack up and shove into them" strategy...however I can assure you that more than one button is pressed in terms of skill based buttons.

Unlikely_Ghostbuster

Redfer wrote: »

lol still funny red can only push out and do stuff when theyre at 3x the other factions ( 3 bars to 1/1) and they pretty much all suck too! X3

Kinda like yellow on the 30-day campaign? At 2am EST, on an idle Wednesday night, the yellow population on Thornblade was locked, while every other faction in every other campaign had one bar. But please, tell me again how it's just the red guys. LOL

Funny how incredibly self-centered and myopic some individuals are -- truly hilarious some players are naïve enough to think THEIR alliance won everything via skill and nerve. It's priceless watching the scales fall from their eyes when they have to red-facedly deny their alliance cheats when given specific examples of their alliance committing *insert game exploit here*.

But ya, you just keep tossing stones from your glass house. It's adorable. I'm sure your alliance is as pure as the driven snow, and that EP won the last Chillrend campaign with nothing but trickery and deception. Don't worry, no one believes everybody who shares your opinion is being a blatantly sore loser pitching a fit over their wounded pride.

ANYWAY...

I'll plead with this thread, one last time -- how about suggesting a solution for ZOS to implement that will END cross-alliance exploits that does *not* involve restricting accounts to ONE alliance, i.e., deleting all alt characters that are cross-faction.

Frankly, I'm all for this solution. Delete the alts. Deny cheaters access to the other factions. It would solve so many different issues/exploits. You see, I don't have any alts in other factions for which I must cobble together believable rationalizations for creating. I play Pact, exclusively. So no paltry excuses here, and no skin off my nose if all cross-alliance alts go bye-bye.

Be assured ZOS knows precisely who is exploiting -- it's delusional to believe otherwise. I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of the cheeky commenters in this thread lost their beloved cross-alliance alts because ZOS is fully aware of what they're doing, when, and why.

Exploiters will be expunged. That's hard reality *every* faction is going to have to deal with. If, suddenly, a slough of people lose their cross-alliance alts while others do not, odds are good those players know what they did, and I have absolutely no sympathy for the loss of their alts. Like I said before, I'd welcome the sweeping change because I'm not sporting cross-alliance toons.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]

SeltzerDuke

Manoekin wrote: »

Nala_ wrote: »

zone chat last night:

DC1:DONT GO IN THAT CAVE
DC2: PUSH IN U NOOBS THEY HAV ARE SCROLLZ IN THERE
DC3: KILL THE EP OUTSIDE THE CAVE THEN GO IN THE CAVE
DC4: IM STANDING ON WHERE THE SCROLL IZ SUPPOSE 2 BE BUT THERE NOT HERE, IM REPORTING FOR HACKS
DC1: THEYRE IN THE CAVE ABOVE THE WATERFALL, YOU CANT JUST GO TO WHERE THE SCROLL IS ON THE MAP

The sad thing is I'm sure it actually went something like this. Maybe this can become the most famous cave in the game now.

Haha, I love that cave, if it's the one in between I think Arrius and Cheydinhal. I remember exploring it at like lvl 20 and trying to get vampirism from the bloodfiends in there. :P "Coffins! This is it! I found teh vampz!!!"

Redfer

Unlikely_Ghostbuster wrote: »

Redfer wrote: »

lol still funny red can only push out and do stuff when theyre at 3x the other factions ( 3 bars to 1/1) and they pretty much all suck too! X3

Kinda like yellow on the 30-day campaign? At 2am EST, on an idle Wednesday night, the yellow population on Thornblade was locked, while every other faction in every other campaign had one bar. But please, tell me again how it's just the red guys. LOL

Funny how incredibly self-centered and myopic some individuals are -- truly hilarious some players are naïve enough to think THEIR alliance won everything via skill and nerve. It's priceless watching the scales fall from their eyes when they have to red-facedly deny their alliance cheats when given specific examples of their alliance committing *insert game exploit here*.

But ya, you just keep tossing stones from your glass house. It's adorable. I'm sure your alliance is as pure as the driven snow, and that EP won the last Chillrend campaign with nothing but trickery and deception. Don't worry, no one believes everybody who shares your opinion is being a blatantly sore loser pitching a fit over their wounded pride.

ANYWAY...

I'll plead with this thread, one last time -- how about suggesting a solution for ZOS to implement that will END cross-alliance exploits that does *not* involve restricting accounts to ONE alliance, i.e., deleting all alt characters that are cross-faction.

Frankly, I'm all for this solution. Delete the alts. Deny cheaters access to the other factions. It would solve so many different issues/exploits. You see, I don't have any alts in other factions for which I must cobble together believable rationalizations for creating. I play Pact, exclusively. So no paltry excuses here, and no skin off my nose if all cross-alliance alts go bye-bye.

Be assured ZOS knows precisely who is exploiting -- it's delusional to believe otherwise. I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of the cheeky commenters in this thread lost their beloved cross-alliance alts because ZOS is fully aware of what they're doing, when, and why.

Exploiters will be expunged. That's hard reality *every* faction is going to have to deal with. If, suddenly, a slough of people lose their cross-alliance alts while others do not, odds are good those players know what they did, and I have absolutely no sympathy for the loss of their alts. Like I said before, I'd welcome the sweeping change because I'm not sporting cross-alliance toons.

This is titled Chillrend NA not thornchill or something lol
and from what i heard, all those reds ran away after getting crushed in thornblade.

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

GRxKnight

Dat fail red zerg doe.

Rylana

GRxKnight wrote: »

Dat fail red zerg doe.

QFT

Try twice as many next time red, gg. Though I applaud you for not using trollcamps this time.

Suhxtob-yu

Suhxtob-yu wrote: »

I would like to have to select a "main faction" for my account and only be able to earn AP for that faction.

This would eliminate "troll camps" and at the same time not force ZOS to have to force deleted characters upon us.

Also, if this is to be implemented, they have to also make sure that siege/camps cannot be used by an opposing faction. What I mean is that someone wouldn't be able to buy siege/camps on their main toon then bank the items for their alt on different faction to use.

Here is a viable solution to troll camps that would not require the deletion of alts.

SeltzerDuke

Tripwyr wrote: »

Guys, all it takes is a single player annoyed at his own faction to start placing troll camps. It is not helpful to assume the other faction is cheating.

Additionally, if it is the other faction, it is still only a single player. It only takes one players who feels "all is fair in love and war" to place a troll camp. That one player does not represent the entire faction.

Finally, all 3 factions suffer from the troll camp plague. When one goes up, spawn at it and report the player who placed it. We've already had 3 troll campers on the AD side of Thornblade suspended, troll camping is against the rules.

Got to agree with the above. I mean, troll camping is unequivocally beyond the pale, but it's also very difficult to police. It just takes one kooshbag to do it, and it can actually be someone actually trolling their own faction. And solutions should be found, and probably will (hopefully not so extreme as limiting accts to one faction - I have two long-neglected alts that are still single-digit levels and basically just hold my trophies, so I'm basically single-faction, but I'm sure several enjoy running alts through all the zones simultaneously). But by all means, let's fill a dozen pages claiming only one alliance does it and pretend that each time we lose a keep, it's only due to troll camping.

Manoekin

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Nala_ wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Last night even there was an AD camp behind the ghartok gate and I have no idea who that was but I made sure to tell zone it was an exploit.

I ask that in the future, since it was pointed out that Zeni has clearly stated this is not an exploit and completely fine if the gates are down and the camp is NOT in the starter area (which last night it wasn't), that you please be more careful/dilligent about claiming exploits both on the forums and in game. This forum/game is plagued with people crying cheating/exploits when they don't even know what an exploit is or if something is an exploit. They simply prefer to say I don't understand why I lost, it must be exploits (or some version of this). I am not upset, I understand it is basic human nature, but since you seem like a reasonable people who now knows that this was indeed not an exploit, that in the future you be a little more careful on what you claim is an exploit its better for the health of the game and if you are not sure there are always people happy to answer your question.

I just remember the same thing happening over in TB a couple weeks ago. A group of people took the Chim scroll while the gate was closed and AD (the group that took the scroll as well) immediately cried exploit. It seemed like it would be in that case because there should be no way to get through a gate that is closed, place a camp down, have a group suicide to take said camp and then ninja a scroll that way.

Granted the run failed but it raises the question then if it is not an exploit to do the above then why haven't we seen more tactics like this? It sounds very exploity to me.

well the server crashed while DC owned farragut, so when it came back up AD just piled into the open gate and threw down a camp. if the gate is open then its not even a question about whether or not its legal. i mean wheeler himself even said its fine if some random occurance happened when the gate was CLOSED.

as long as its not the STARTING AREA, its game

No, it completely removes the whole point of a gate.

It's like being able to drop enemy camps inside keeps.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1175736/#Comment_1175736

It's a legit strategy. Bypassing physical structures was a gray area that is now more of a no-no area. No physical structures were bypassed since the player who put down the camp entered through an open gate. Gate areas are not Keeps.

GRxKnight

I'm just gonna leave that here and let you all appreciate how pathetic red is when it comes to, not only attacking a keep, but defending one as well.

Let's put this picture into perspective. Yellow (my group TKO) was at BRK with the intent of either taking the keep or farming out the place until the diminishing returns on the AP were far too great to continue farming. The latter happened as we wiped red time and time again to the point where we were only getting single digit to low 20's in AP per kill. So we decided to pack up and head somewhere else.

About a couple minutes later, we notice this lovely camp placed right out in the middle of nowhere, which just so happens to overlap with where AD were placing their camps at BRK, which was at the lumber mill. Either this is a really new gank group for AD that has no idea how to gank and where to place gank camps, or red's are exploiting yet again because they're too pathetic to play the game legitly.

I will give them credit though. They had an opportunity to troll camp at the Altadoon gate earlier and chose not to. Or it could have been that the person who's job it is to place these camps wasn't on at the time. Either way, good job on showing SOME restraint then. At BRK though, where the main force had already packed up and left, and was in no way threatening to take the keep, tsk tsk.

Warz

You know people duel and 1v1 some quest in that area and know they may be at risk of being ganked ive seen ad and ep camps put down in that area before. Considering you have a camp at the lm should have proved that isn't a very good troll camp attempt considering it doesn't block anything. But I personally have dueled ad and dc in the middle of nowhere, close around that area so that is a possibility. But there is the possibility it was a mentally challenged ep troll camping, if so then the only guild I know that would ever need to be desperate enough to keep doing that and that badly would be ones that are former wabba zerglings aka WCFC.

timidobserver

Chillrend was actually pretty awesome before all of the people from Thorn and Bow of Shadows hopped over.

IMO we should just remove the concept of swapping home servers mid campaign from PVP. You stay where you start until the campaign ends, and then you have the chance to change.

Suhxtob-yu

Warz wrote: »

You know people duel and 1v1 some quest in that area and know they may be at risk of being ganked ive seen ad and ep camps put down in that area before. Considering you have a camp at the lm should have proved that isn't a very good troll camp attempt considering it doesn't block anything. But I personally have dueled ad and dc in the middle of nowhere, close around that area so that is a possibility. But there is the possibility it was a mentally challenged ep troll camping, if so then the only guild I know that would ever need to be desperate enough to keep doing that and that badly would be ones that are former wabba zerglings aka WCFC.

LoL.

You know nothing Jon Warz....

Tintinabula

funny,..admitting to "farming ap' (AKA either outnumbering and or simply using _______ mechanics to kill an enemy over and over and over ((since you're AD I would have to guess BOTH) but then whiiiiiining about someone ________blocking you with an FC.

Would you care for cheese and crackers with that whiiiiine?

murtugo

GRxKnight wrote: »

I'm just gonna leave that here and let you all appreciate how pathetic red is when it comes to, not only attacking a keep, but defending one as well.

Let's put this picture into perspective. Yellow (my group TKO) was at BRK with the intent of either taking the keep or farming out the place until the diminishing returns on the AP were far too great to continue farming. The latter happened as we wiped red time and time again to the point where we were only getting single digit to low 20's in AP per kill. So we decided to pack up and head somewhere else.

About a couple minutes later, we notice this lovely camp placed right out in the middle of nowhere, which just so happens to overlap with where AD were placing their camps at BRK, which was at the lumber mill. Either this is a really new gank group for AD that has no idea how to gank and where to place gank camps, or red's are exploiting yet again because they're too pathetic to play the game legitly.

I will give them credit though. They had an opportunity to troll camp at the Altadoon gate earlier and chose not to. Or it could have been that the person who's job it is to place these camps wasn't on at the time. Either way, good job on showing SOME restraint then. At BRK though, where the main force had already packed up and left, and was in no way threatening to take the keep, tsk tsk.

Are you really sure that it was EP who placed that camp? It is possible that one of your guys (AD) may be "planting evidence" against the Pact so that you can attack them at the forums. The way I see it, AD also benefited from that camp by using it as an excuse to attack EP at the forums.

I'm not accusing AD of anything because I respect you guys. I am just showing you the possibility.

BrassRazoo

PvP would be a lot better if players were not aloud to talk about it.

krim

Im looking for more sorcs to negate for me kthx.

Mjollo

I just wanted to point out that i hope you guys double-check your death recaps. People keep messaging in-game with "alts", "friends" or whatever to tell me I'm hacking because i hit 2500 on initial strike with an additional 800-1200 from my ult plus a spam of 800dps for impale to finish them off. (pls)Don't be that guy.

bitaken

Just wanted to thank the EP zerg that ate all the undefended AD keeps - only to come to Aleswell and find 16 EHJ + about 10 DC in zone chat and get their backsides handed to them from the front door - tot he farm - to the mine - to the lumber mill - to the north wall - to the front wall.

A very fun earned 6K Defense tick on that one

To AD: We tried to slow them down on BB, and again with the scroll but at that time I had 13 - and we were unable to hold the lumber mill at BB. Attack my Ash again tonight and it's gonna get real

D Fresh

Logged on today to see EP must have gotten a little butthurt about our Farragut farm last night. I see your new strat though EP, (throw our countless zerg at the wall until AD gets tired and logs). That's ok though I guess its time to retake our side of the map as usual. Thanks for all the AP though (at least when we are on to own you). You guys are truly terribad.

PS:
I love the comment from a WCFC member I heard the other night:
"We might not have the best skill or be as good as them, BUT WE CARE GUYS!!!!!!"

Agrippa_Invisus

Taking a moment to catch up on the forums during my vacation. Hopefully Chillrend has been more fun over the last two days.

FYI: the troll tents against red on Wednesday was a disgruntled EP player. I know who it was and will decline to disclose the player if asked. Stop thinking it was DC or AD.

Mjollo

^ (It was Agrippa!!!) Aha! Clever disguise! You made us think you were on vacation this whole time but instead you logged on to sabotage us! And you could have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for us meddling kids!

Illumous

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Taking a moment to catch up on the forums during my vacation. Hopefully Chillrend has been more fun over the last two days.

FYI: the troll tents against red on Wednesday was a disgruntled EP player. I know who it was and will decline to disclose the player if asked. Stop thinking it was DC or AD.

A lot of EP from Thornblade seem to have guested or migrated over to Chill. Last night there was poplocks in Thornblade for AD and DC with only 2 bars for EP while EP had poplocked Chillrend with only 2 bars for AD and DC respectively. It is, to say the least, making the campaign even more screwed up. Seems like the EP from Thornblade came over due to them losing on their campaign and seeing that EP was ahead on Chillrend.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

Dear EP,

Come back to Thornblade, we miss you, and we baked you a cake.

Love,
Team Green

bitaken

You can't have them back. Once numbers are evened out they get slaughtered all over the map.

Was an epic night until AD got pissy about their scrolls - which I told DC to leave in the EP keeps...but oh well.

Arkath

A big thank you to the little red fellers that worked so hard all day to flip the map! Gave us a lot of fun keep takes to run through tonight.

GRxKnight

bitaken wrote: »

You can't have them back. Once numbers are evened out they get slaughtered all over the map.

Was an epic night until AD got pissy about their scrolls - which I told DC to leave in the EP keeps...but oh well.

Why wouldn't we want our scrolls back though?...Seems like a logical thing to want to have...

bitaken

GRxKnight wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

You can't have them back. Once numbers are evened out they get slaughtered all over the map.

Was an epic night until AD got pissy about their scrolls - which I told DC to leave in the EP keeps...but oh well.

Why wouldn't we want our scrolls back though?...Seems like a logical thing to want to have...

I never wanted your scrolls. I was speaking about the Thornblade EP that have moved ot Chillrend. I was the guy in zone saying leave them in Chalman, and Arrius - but no one wanted to listen. I understand you wanting them back - but - when you came after Ash, and then Warden - you let EP out of the bag. I would have run them to your scroll gates when we got the damn keeps if I did not want to keep the pressure on EP.

I don't care who finishes first second or last in this campaign. I just want to smash Red - and maintain my home keeps - and get as much AP as possible - in the meantime have fun doing it