Master Crafter - new perk for crafting!

ShadowMage

Gotta jump in here and give this a bump!

Love this idea. I only recently started playing, but I have been planning my character and the armor/weapon styles I want to use (thanks ESO-Fashion!) and I've noticed that many of the upper level armor pieces don't fit the look I'm shooting for where some of the lower level ones are perfect. I'm still enjoying my lower level look (since I'm still lower level ) but I would like to keep that look as I progress.

Nhoxxx

Gonna bump this too as I love the idea !

GabrielBoneGrinder

ALL OF MY YAAAS

blacklight25

I love this idea, i hope it actually gets implemented in the game!

But i have to disagree with people saying the lower level armor is better looking than the higher level armor, for about 40 levels i have used the same mix of armor styles (head is 1 race, shoulders are another, chest and pants are the same, hands/boots/belt are the same), i personally feel like it looks better and better every time i make new gear(about every 10 levels). I use medium armor by the way.

Maybe I'm lucky and found something that works for me for now, but I'm sure that if you plan it out and really experiment with different race styles then you will find something you enjoy.

golfer.dub17_ESO

blacklight25 wrote: »

I love this idea, i hope it actually gets implemented in the game!

But i have to disagree with people saying the lower level armor is better looking than the higher level armor, for about 40 levels i have used the same mix of armor styles (head is 1 race, shoulders are another, chest and pants are the same, hands/boots/belt are the same), i personally feel like it looks better and better every time i make new gear(about every 10 levels). I use medium armor by the way.

Maybe I'm lucky and found something that works for me for now, but I'm sure that if you plan it out and really experiment with different race styles then you will find something you enjoy.

I guess I'd agree in general about armor, with a few exceptions (high level hats tend to be ugly).
Shields though, I like a lot of the lower level circular shields, like the Imperial and Barbaric ones.

I prefer lower level weapons in a lot of cases, you can easily see why below...
Aldmer Axes Compared

Some_Jerk

This idea is truly awesome

CirithValaria

First of all thank you all for your great support and bumps.
When they released their crown store plans and costumes I knew this is something they most likely wont implement.
However reading all the awesome positive comments and support from these 6 pages makes me SAD since ZOS has totally ignored so many great individuals and overall positive thread on forums/internet where whining and negativity normally rules.

When u look at the costumes at crown store its ofc a matter of taste which is nice and which isn't, but in all fairness there are few nice ones and more are coming..still...If they could only "work" (they failed to fix costume bug in recent patch) and I wish they could also be visible on character menu and if only they could be dyed..list goes on...

Therefore I propose an innovative compromise:

Monthly costume competition!
Costumes designed by players, so how this works is:
- Player crafts a set and dyes it in-game using any dye/style/or gear tier available to them.
- When ready they take screenshots (front/side/back) send it to zos with additional info (style/gear tier/dye names etc)
- Then zos can pick the best ones and we players vote our favorite and the winner will be implemented as crown store costume.

This way people can be creative, ZOS gets good stuff on crown store - its win-win.
What are your thoughts?

MamaDruid

It only makes sense that a character can create all the looks they have learned. There has to be a technical solution to preventing a level 3 character from looking like a veteran character while allowing the reverse to be technically possible.

Whether or not they figure it out, your contest idea @CirithValaria is a great one!

Gidorick

WHY hasn't this been implemented in game? ugh... seriously. It's such an elegant and simple solution that would add a LOT of depth and variety to armor!!

...

GAAH!!!

Alina_Scarbridge

I'd love to see this implemented in game.

CirithValaria

@bellanca6561n
Sry totally missed your excellent old comment, just noticed it while reading through all comments. I wanted to apologize any confusion this thread might have caused to you, but on the bright side I'm happy if it's so well made and well taken that u thought it was developer discussion You hit spot on your comment overall and I fully agree. This part especially about costumes: "Plus, as others have noted, costumes won't solve the problem because they're not going to be sold in pieces and can't be dyed. Rather they come as a package reflecting somebody else's taste."

@Gidorick
Tell me about it.
For me it would be a major win already to get that 1 small dev comment (positive or negative).

Overall
Good conversation and comparisons from you all and thank you for the bumps
Glad you like the idea.

Updated the complete original post to be more clear.

silky_soft

This and reforging style would be good.

Personofsecrets

Trait and Level changes please!

Blackbird_V

I support this.

Solariken

Yes please!

Pyro117

Add me to the Master Crafting perk idea support team. Going to have to try and give this feedback on my ps4 tonight.

CirithValaria

Pyro117 wrote: »

Add me to the Master Crafting perk idea support team. Going to have to try and give this feedback on my ps4 tonight.

Much appreciated

VelociousLegend

Love this idea as well! And to build off of it, I think having a skill line only available to master crafters would compensate them for the hard work and time dedication to maxing out the crafting skills. Skills to choose the model, change traits of already created items, etc.

Ysulyan

Bumping because this idea is simply one of the best around.
I support it.

(Can't believe I missed this; if I had known before I wouldn't have gone through the trouble of making a new topic regarding this, sorry)

CirithValaria

Ysulyan wrote: »

Bumping because this idea is simply one of the best around.
I support it.

(Can't believe I missed this; if I had known before I wouldn't have gone through the trouble of making a new topic regarding this, sorry)

Yeah just last week I realized that this thread/idea has been "alive" little over a year now, huge thanks to you all.

There has been few posts showing this kind of improvement ideas for crafting and I think its good to have others too because maybe then @ZOS starts noticing us.

Just a reminder:
You can feedback this idea in-game, for more info check below the original post.
@ZOS claims they read and react to feedback... so... we shall see

Ethromelb14_ESO

CirithValaria wrote: »

Greetings all

I would like to share this tiny improvement idea with huge customization potential that would benefit all players and game overall.
Idea is very simple and this is something I think would fit in perfectly.

All comments are welcome, please share any thoughts (positive/negative) you might have.
If you like it but don't feel like commenting/sharing, please consider using some of the "reactions": insightful / agree / awesome.
Check in-game sharing tips at the end of this post.


MASTER CRAFTER PERK

Unlocked at lvl 50 (blacksmithing, clothing and/or woodworking)
Requires 1 skill point or free (achievement reward).

Well what does it do then?
Perk allows you to choose "model" from any earlier material and craft using it with any veteran material.
So the crafting works almost like normally:

CHOOSE GEAR TYPE
-Default model depends on your material choice.
CHOOSE MATERIAL
-Material determinates item level/rank and the default model (not the final look).
CHOOSE STYLE
-Race inspired style.
CHOOSE MODEL * NEW*
-Master crafter can craft earlier material model in any style known to him/her from any veteran material.
CHOOSE TRAIT
- Trait gems add special bonuses.




EXAMPLE:
Crafter wants to craft epaulets rank 9.
Crafter picks [type] Epaulets and [material] Void Cloth.
Our crafter is most appealed of Bosmers and picks [style] Bone, yet dislikes the default veteran model.
Master crafter decides to do earlier [model] (cotton from lvl 25-35).
And lastly chooses Divines [trait] and picks up a sapphire.




WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT?
ATM game has so many amazing gear models that ”can't be used” after you ”out level” them.
This tiny improvement gives so much more customization options and dev work won't be wasted.
It will let us loose in the river of creativeness and increase the different / unique style combinations we see our beloved ESOTU players wearing.

Thank you for your time and reading!
Have a nice day in Tamriel

-Cirith-



EDIT:
French discussion here: (thanks to Aranarth)
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/121767/maitre-artisant-nouveau-passif-artisanat#latest


EDIT:
Poll here: (thanks to Lord_Draevan)
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/122804/crafting-lower-level-looks-with-high-level-materials#latest


EDIT:
Remember that you can feedback this idea in game.
Here is how you do it:

Type in chat-> /feedback ... Choose "game systems" as category...
Copy/paste the following message in the "description" field

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Greetings.
I would like to share this tiny improvement idea called: "Master Crafter" - a new perk for crafting.
With this perk you can craft veteran gear/weapons and choose any of the earlier models (that are unlocked). It is received when profession is lvl 50.
There is a thread on ESO official forums, in crafting section that goes in more detail.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/121362/master-crafter-new-perk-for-crafting/p1

Pretty please: come and say hello or /lurk : )
Thank you

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Then simply "submit feedback"
I personally want to thank all who took time to do this - a major THANKS to you!


EDIT:
Completely updated the original post to be more clean (instead of 1 huge picture we now have bigger and easier to read text and better quality pictures)

-> You can copy and share below picture as you see fit. <-

I like the idea - of course. I just hope they actually use it. It would be a waste of a great idea you and I both have had.

Circuitica

Just sent my weekly in-game feedback

Love this idea!

CirithValaria

Circuitica wrote: »

Just sent my weekly in-game feedback

Love this idea!

I love your dedication
Thank you so much!

Sneaky-Snurr

I absolutely love your idea @CirithValaria.
This system not only allows different styles to be mixed and matched according to the crafter's taste but it also includes an extremely diverse customisation which I yearn for in this game. Great idea.

Just curious, has @ZOS made any contact with you regarding this brilliant customisation system? If so, what's the progress? Is it taken into consideration? How can I be of help to push and commend this idea to @ZOS? I'd very much want to see your idea be implemented into the game. *thumbs up*

I_killed_Vivec

I'd rather have:

Master Crafter Perk - allows you to buy hammers/tongs, needle/thread, saw/chisel from traders and repair your own gear. Repairs also allow crafters to upgrade gear (within its material range) and change traits.

ShadowMage

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

I'd rather have:

Master Crafter Perk - allows you to buy hammers/tongs, needle/thread, saw/chisel from traders and repair your own gear. Repairs also allow crafters to upgrade gear (within its material range) and change traits.

This would be a great idea for extra perks, too. Personally, I'd rather be able to craft the lower level styles, but this would be nice to see as well. Hopefully ZOS will do a crafting revamp and include the OP as well as your ideas.

Kwivur

This will never be done only because it makes too much sense. I would love to see this in game, but devs are too focused on freaking bears and stuff like that. This game really needs to stray away from the "do as you're told" bs.

Ysulyan

I think the thing is that devs might be afraid that costumes and crown-purchased cosmetics will end up not being purchased as much, since players will have the liberty of adding their own cosmetics much more easier with this idea. Could it be that they'd rather not add this feature for the sake of having a higher income? I know not. Maybe I'm wrong though, it's just a supposition.

Gidorick

Hey @ZOS_RichLambert, You may not have seen this thread since it was well before your tenure as creative director. So... Please consider this as a near-future addition to ESO.

Septimus_Magna

Great idea, I would like changes like this.
Right now most models are wasted because most players only wear low level items for a couple hours.
Its really a waste of time, money and effort to not be able to use the other models when you craft something.

This gives players more control how they look without influencing items stats or required crafting materials.

A necessary feature with an addition like this would be a preview mode while crafting, similar to the crown store preview.

Please take a look at the suggestions in this thread @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_RichLambert