The Road Ahead - July 8, 2014

Xsorus

Never thought I'd see the day when people would threaten to quit an MMO based on it having to many dye colors. Honestly you all suck and have made gaming in general a worse place. No wonder developers don't take any of you seriously.

Cogo

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nothing about consoles...thanks

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Hey, you're entitled to your opinions and focus as are other subscribers.

Believe it or not, there are active PC players that do care about information on the console version of the game.

@Cogo
The comment above is very accurate and thoughtful, one version of this game is just as important as the other. I'm supporting the PC version in hopes that feedback and subscribing help open the doors for the console version that I intend on experiencing.

@Eventide03B14a_ESO
If you don't, just keep scrolling as others have...



**Side-note, Smurfs are blue

Glad there are more who understands how important the consoles are for "us" as well

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ZodiacDragon

I already posted my questions and of course got no answer no reply nothing that figures and about the dyes don't listen to a lot of these ppl I say put in all the colors possible even if it is pink I hate it when ppl sit there and say oh don't put in this color or bright colors or blah blah blah blah that's just ridicules I don't want everyone looking the damn same so yes put in as many colors as possible and it's fine that you zanimax and ESO ppl ignore my comment I figured as much there's probably no damn plans to add new classes and races and skill lines idk why I even had my hopes up about that

LrdRahvin

ZodiacDragon wrote: »

I already posted my questions and of course got no answer no reply nothing that figures and about the dyes don't listen to a lot of these ppl I say put in all the colors possible even if it is pink I hate it when ppl sit there and say oh don't put in this color or bright colors or blah blah blah blah that's just ridicules I don't want everyone looking the damn same so yes put in as many colors as possible and it's fine that you zanimax and ESO ppl ignore my comment I figured as much there's probably no damn plans to add new classes and races and skill lines idk why I even had my hopes up about that

WTB punctuation

Also, since this isn't the first time I've had to try to buy some punctuation after reading one of your posts...

WTB remedial English lessons

ZodiacDragon

Really dude no need to be a [snip] toward me I am expressing my opinion

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

NewBlacksmurf

lol

ZOS_LenaicR

Hey guys,

Please keep in mind that, per our Community Code of Conduct, it is never acceptable to flame or troll other members of the community, and that even heated discussions should remain constructive and civil.

We encourage everyone to please be respectful of one another’s opinions and to format their posts in a correct manner so everyone can read it.

Thank you for your understanding.

Cogo

ZodiacDragon wrote: »

I already posted my questions and of course got no answer no reply nothing that figures and about the dyes don't listen to a lot of these ppl I say put in all the colors possible even if it is pink I hate it when ppl sit there and say oh don't put in this color or bright colors or blah blah blah blah that's just ridicules I don't want everyone looking the damn same so yes put in as many colors as possible and it's fine that you zanimax and ESO ppl ignore my comment I figured as much there's probably no damn plans to add new classes and races and skill lines idk why I even had my hopes up about that

Ok, I can answer you for you.

First, there are 10.000s posts Zenimax needs to read thruogh, they cant answer em all. Also, please consider how your post is made. Its hard to read it if you do not section it a bit :-)

From your questions, I can see you need to check what TYPE of MMO ESO is.
Look around in this site. In short: ESO is based on Elderscrolls series, with LORE, storylines that connects to the world and alot of features/events that all has some connection to Tamriel.

Atm, there is a conflict in Tamriel, about who of the 3 alliances shall rule Tamriel. The war going on in the biggest zone in game, called Cyrodiil. Open pvp, so be careful if you go there. You WILL be attacked by enemies.

The core of ESO is: Choose your way. You can choose whatever you like to do, or what you like to be. But that does not mean you can do everythiing and be everything at the same time. You have to choose.

• ESO have a 5 year plan, and deliver new content/stuff every 4-6 weeks.
• In ESO, there are 4 classes. No plans to make any new class has be stated
• Content in ESO is both for immersion, making a "living" Tamriel and offers several options to "build" your character. As well as adding new conent/dungeons/zones, over time, to keep an interesting world, even if you have done "everything"
• The main way of ESO is "choose your way". Nothing is wrong. Nothing is right. Its up to you, what you would like to do. Your choices WILL impact the world around you. And some choices you can not take back. You work for your stuff and face your chooses.
• In ESO you will find a lot of things you may seam as not interesting, like colors. The reason for this, is that ESO offers play styles for multiple types of players, like Elite raiders, casual players, role players, PvP, explorers, trade skillers. "alts" players who wants to test everything possible, and others.
• The goal of ESO character "build", is to choose whatever you feel is right for you, but all builds are not equally powerful, and changes depending on what encounters you are facing. What you want to be, is up to you.
• New skill lines are planned to get released with the Thief and Dark brotherhood guilds. Also with their own storylines. A justice system will be released first, then the thief guild. After that, the Dark brotherhood guild. Both with each skill lines like mage and fighter guild. No date is set for this yet.
• No new races have been stated to be in the plans. But Zenimax have not denied its possible in the future.

I hope this answers your questions.

Scarletblaze

Will armor dyes be available for all players?

eventide03b14a_ESO

Scarletblaze wrote: »

Will armor dyes be available for all players?

Is there any reason they wouldn't be?

Scarletblaze

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Scarletblaze wrote: »

Will armor dyes be available for all players?

Is there any reason they wouldn't be?

I heard a rumor that armor dyes will be bound to achievements....is this true? If so, which achievements? (

eventide03b14a_ESO

Scarletblaze wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Scarletblaze wrote: »

Will armor dyes be available for all players?

Is there any reason they wouldn't be?

I heard a rumor that armor dyes will be bound to achievements....is this true? If so, which achievements? (

I had heard the same thing but that would still allow all characters to use them. I also read somewhere that they only needed to be unlocked on one of your alts, but I am not sure if that was just a rumor.

kirnmalidus

Scarletblaze wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Scarletblaze wrote: »

Will armor dyes be available for all players?

Is there any reason they wouldn't be?

I heard a rumor that armor dyes will be bound to achievements....is this true? If so, which achievements? (

This is true, armor dyes are unlocked by completing achievements.

They haven't released a list of what achievements tie to what colors, but I'd be willing to bet if you logged into PTS right now you could find out for yourself, as 1.3 is live on PTS.

kirnmalidus

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Scarletblaze wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Scarletblaze wrote: »

Will armor dyes be available for all players?

Is there any reason they wouldn't be?

I heard a rumor that armor dyes will be bound to achievements....is this true? If so, which achievements? (

I had heard the same thing but that would still allow all characters to use them. I also read somewhere that they only needed to be unlocked on one of your alts, but I am not sure if that was just a rumor.

This is also true, I think it was actually in the original post here, but it may have been somewhere else.

While achievements will continue to be character-bound, dyes unlocked by achievements will be account-bound. So if character A in your account completes an achievement and unlocks a dye color, character B can use that dye color regardless of whether or not they have completed the associated achievement.

_subjectnamehere_

kirnmalidus wrote: »

Scarletblaze wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Scarletblaze wrote: »

Will armor dyes be available for all players?

Is there any reason they wouldn't be?

I heard a rumor that armor dyes will be bound to achievements....is this true? If so, which achievements? (

This is true, armor dyes are unlocked by completing achievements.

They haven't released a list of what achievements tie to what colors, but I'd be willing to bet if you logged into PTS right now you could find out for yourself, as 1.3 is live on PTS.

If I had to make an educated guess, I would say that it will be tied to the amount of achievement points you have and not specific achievements. That is just a theory, though.

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ , can we get some more insight on this, if possible?

eventide03b14a_ESO

_subjectnamehere_ wrote: »

kirnmalidus wrote: »

Scarletblaze wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Scarletblaze wrote: »

Will armor dyes be available for all players?

Is there any reason they wouldn't be?

I heard a rumor that armor dyes will be bound to achievements....is this true? If so, which achievements? (

This is true, armor dyes are unlocked by completing achievements.

They haven't released a list of what achievements tie to what colors, but I'd be willing to bet if you logged into PTS right now you could find out for yourself, as 1.3 is live on PTS.

If I had to make an educated guess, I would say that it will be tied to the amount of achievement points you have and not specific achievements. That is just a theory, though.

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ , can we get some more insight on this, if possible?

What sort of achievements would even make logical sense with armor dye apart from the crafting one's?

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

_subjectnamehere_ wrote: »

If I had to make an educated guess, I would say that it will be tied to the amount of achievement points you have and not specific achievements. That is just a theory, though.

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ , can we get some more insight on this, if possible?

Dyes are unlocked by specific achievements, the first screenshot they released of the dye system showed a 'black' unlocked by a Trial IIRC, and a 'green' post in the last few hours made a comment implying it.

ExiledKhallisi

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

Can't wait to see :

http://eso-fashion.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/04/Daedric-Calcinium-Front-CloseVR21.jpg

in black and red !

It's getting exciting !! Let's hope it will work well.

Ah yes...the classic everyone-and-their-mom look from so many MMO's

coryevans_3b14_ESO

kwisatz wrote: »

Those candy colors are exactly the horrible thing I was afraid of! It looks like GW2 and not as an Elder Scrolls.
Bad, so bad.

Agreed, I really don't like it. At all. As odd as it is and even though I've put up with much more disruptive issues that this game has had, those horrible colors may send me running finally.

ShiftControl

This all nice we appreciate the work ZoS have done but how about priority?
Fix old bugs specially the ones we have in skill lines and passive abilities.
I know you guys keep saying “We are working on it”
guess what If I would do my job like you guys do in ZoS, I would be jobless by now.
Class balance
Medium and Heavy armor
Stamina builds

3 months passed and you guys working on stuff, which should be in the game to start with (guild ranking, guild bank, guild stores, armor? provisioning recipes)
In the last road a head we heard about Thief’s guild coming in July which obviously will be delayed.

I assume along with other stuff which would more interesting.
By now you guys realized the current armor sets are almost worthless, crafted as well as the drops. It is not worth the time an effort we put in to the trait research because the sets are very weak. So it was about time to do something with it but I think you guys just created more bugs like usually along with the dye system. (See History of patches)

In Vr zones we still looting low lvl recipes and prov. mats, how about update this problems.

Finally but not last the nerfing, instead of nerf classes how about fix the other classes bring them up to the same lvl?

And the Night Blades are the stepchild of ZoS, that should be the most fun to play and it’s the most depressing out of all other I don’t wanna go in to details here because its so many problems with them the list would be as long as this whole thread.
But lets look at the bright side we still can play with light armor destroy resto.

Seriously don’t know why did I resubbed, my whole guild is gone maybe 3 -5 of us playing out of 300+

And now you pull down a bunch PvP servers as well YOU ARE CREATING ZERG FESTS ZoS .
There is not much to grind for in PvE bc the armor sets are worthless, and you have to screw up PvP as well nice job.
All 5-7 day campaigns will be full with Emperor flippers the Blue and Yellow handing Emps over to each other, like in Celarus today.

Also I think your stuff is playing yellow because how would they have SorcDks in their ranks and not banned? We reported this issue many times Talons banners and bolt escape hello ZoS
Yes we need the Armor Dyes big time. Basically we pay the 15 a month just screw around with it, for an other 2-3 months right? Don’t make me wrong I’m not against it just I don’t see the Armor Dyes as a priority in the current state of the game.

Personally I enjoy the game less and less day by day. This update wont make much of a positive effect infect more folks will leave I think you guys processed the new payments I bet its 30% less then a month ago.

indigoblades

i tried it on pts and there are over dozen colors available with no achievement. Many more are available from achievements. Check the map in a major city and go the area marked dye station. I like it.

snowsong

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

For those complaining about pinks and blues being a part of the dye system, I'd like to point out that there's already pink and blue gear in ESO.





The problem isn't with the range of colors, it's with the bright colors being put on shiny plate armor. In the current game, heavy armor comes in mostly metallic colors. You've got your grays, your blacks, your golds, your blues, and a bold green from the Ancient Elf VR12 armor. There are no candy apple reds or canary yellows.

I'd much prefer it if they would tone down the colors on shiny armor like plate armor, to help counteract the shine of the armor and remove that cartoony feel people are complaining about.

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@arkansas_ESO, Thank you for showing visual examples of those colours already ingame. I think these you showed, look very nice and certainly without being lore-breaking. If i understand correctly, it is not a particular colour that people need to worry about, but just that several posters are actually concerned about not wanting NEON versions of those colours? -- While yet others feel anyone should be free to choose any look they want.

Perhaps the idea about having layers of colours that could be applied, (as in choices of layers of colour from a light colour wash of tint on up to heavily opaque) sounded like it could be at least be part of a good solution that would allow various alternatives -- do any others agree? However, I think at least muted and shiny versions of colours are already set to be offered, if i understand correctly from the questions and answers on this. I wonder if this will resolve some concerns for some people too. Anyway, without it getting too complicated, i am one who is really looking forward to seeing the unique ways people play with this dye-system to try out the different looks they want. Yet, i can see why some are already asking for an emergency undo or wash-away button too. LOL

I am glad to hear that at least some basic colours will be available right away, since it seems that aside from those, all the other many choices of colours may be tied to achievements somehow. Perhaps we will hear more about that part after the Quakecon revelations,

snowsong

heinrich00 wrote: »

Can please have capes are we gonna have capes ?

That's a great idea! Guilds could use either capes or tabards with their own guild emblem on it! That would be fun.

snowsong

robertgraberub17_ESO wrote: »

Recently, we adjusted stamina builds to help them become more competitive by making medium armor reduce the cost of stamina abilities and by improving the damage for several stamina-based abilities.


The survivability of werewolves and the balance between their strengths and weaknesses may receive some adjustments.

I really hope there are some big changes to come to Werewolves for the better soon. I fought long and hard to get bitten and so far for have found that we really aren't that beneficial to the overall fight.

New armor sets that are visually distinct from others.
A new system that makes it easier to find complete sets in-game.
Item rewards will be handed out in a more logical fashion by quests and enemy drops.

I would really like to see some changes to crafting. Its great that whatever we build would be better than what can drop, but please reduce the research time it takes to learn traits. This is maddening to try to find the item and then waiting 29 days? Too long! I would also really like to see a better bonus to crafted items or just a little bump on damage for crafted items. Just a quick question on Enchanting... Why is it so slow to progress? Is there a better system to be crated to match items to recipes? I had to make a book on what items go to what i was looking to make. Very inconvenient.

ARMOR CUSTOM COLORS!!! Love it! Would like to see that there are color choices for everyone. Please make sure that SHOULDER ARMOR does not become CARTOONIE! I hate huge shoulder armor!

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You make some legitimate points. What you say about the werewolves makes sense, and also what you say about crafting research time lengths too.

One of things i am happy about is about how with the medium armor now you can reduce the cost of stamina abilities and also help improve the damage for several stamina-based abilities! Thank you for that ESO!

snowsong

Rhoric wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

What about an option to allow players to group up for solo only content. I have been stuck on Molag Bal for months. Being able to group up with guildie would be a great help to those of us that are having problems. I have seen people leave out of frustration over not being able to group up cause it is set as solo only.

You have point there, Rhoric. Maybe people could choose do the solo area as a pair at least when they want or need to, or if they so choose..hmmm..that's a thought. Otherwise, you will have to come back when you are a higher level, if you are just too outnumbered on a solo at the suggested level. I am not sure how hard it is for ESO to add all the things people want, but i like that we can now see on the door/entrance if we are entering a group or solo area. That helped my friends and me allot. Thanks for the updates Gina.

Umeil

The way forward looks great.

I ask only one thing though....... PLEASE test everything properly this time and DO NOT put a complete abortion of a patch back into this game like your last patch was

eventide03b14a_ESO

snowsong wrote: »

heinrich00 wrote: »

Can please have capes are we gonna have capes ?

That's a great idea! Guilds could use either capes or tabards with their own guild emblem on it! That would be fun.

I would love to have cloaks in this game. EQ2 used cloaks to display guild heraldry. I think it also took them 6 years from release to finally add cloaks though.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

I've yet to see any game able to render cloaks without clipping issues with weapons, mounts, etc. that just makes them look terrible.

eventide03b14a_ESO

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

I've yet to see any game able to render cloaks without clipping issues with weapons, mounts, etc. that just makes them look terrible.

Cloth simulation in games is still challenging and no I have yet to see one that has cloaks without clipping. I would say that terrible is subjective though and there are plenty of examples of clipping in ESO already. I think if we can handle the characters arms clipping with sheathed weapons we can handle a little cloak clipping weapons too.

Zyaedra

I am a bit surprised to see nothing mentioned in the OP about an improvement to bank/inventory space. A bone needs to be thrown to crafters for resource management. It seems having multiple mule characters is encouraged here, this makes crafting more of a chore than something fun.

IMO increasing the stack size (significantly) would help tremendously... there are so many different resource items available to gather, just needing one space for each item would be enough to keep people upgrading their packs and bank. I understand you guys are huge fans of money sinks in this area, so maybe you could create a resource management merchant that would increase resource stack sizes (by 100% of their original limit with each upgrade would be nice).

Some background:
I have 3 VR characters (1 VR1 (dedicated crafter toon) and 2 VR6's)
I've been unlucky in terms of loot to sell, but most of my gold thus far has gone to increasing bank space (I am currently up at 210, working on 220). Most of the other portion of my gold has gone toward inventory space--my VR toons have 150 inventory space with pack merchant and horse upgrades. The rest of my gold has gone to the rare gear repair.
I also share a bank with some RL friends where we pool all of our resources that have a merchant value of 0 as well as better extra resources, potions, and set jewelry.