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Re: DLC Undaunted Pledges
AllenaNightWood wrote: »being able to re roll pledges would be nice
The whole point of pledges is to incentivize everyone to do the same set of dungeons on the same day, to make grouping for those specific dungeons easier.
Re: Please don't forget to bring back the Redguard / Wedding Luxury weeks this year!
The Mauve Drapes are back… and they’re not blue, nor white, but MAUVE! 😹
And these purrrfect new planters. Very sleek ZOS, VERY sleek!
Much of this one’s coin has mysteriously gone missing this weekend. Baron Jangleplume is molting from stress. But Khajiit is sure that being surrounded by drapes that match his collar, waterfalls and beautiful flowers will have him right as rain in no time!
MoonPile
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Re: Delves are way too Overcrowded....
...don't like seeing other people in game...don't like PvP.....
You sure you shouldn't be playing single player games instead of MMO's?
You sure you shouldn't be playing single player games instead of MMO's?
Re: Delves are way too Overcrowded....
I don't want instanced delves, or public dungeons etc.. I enjoy seeing other players when I'm running these.
Delves are way too Overcrowded....
Ok...I usually don't like to do this but...Imma gonna rant for a bit so apologies.....and I'm going to tag @ZOS_Kevin to see if this is something he can bring up to the devs.....
I've been playing ESO since launch, and delves have always been my go-to for a quick, chill solo grind. You know the drill: sneak in, clear some trash, smack the boss for that sweet skyshard/lead/motif, grab the lorebooks, and bounce. Perfect for alts, dailies, or just unwinding after a vet dungeon run.
But holy Daedra, what happened in Season Zero?! Every single delve is a freaking mosh pit! I queue up my daily random delve, and bam - 8-12 players already camping the boss like it's Cyrodiil prime real estate. I try to pull some mobs for XP? Nope, some CP 2000 speed demon swoops in on their stamina DK and steals the whole pack. Boss down? Everyone tags it at once, loot table explodes (personal loot ftw, but still...), and lag spikes turn the whole thing into a slideshow.
Tried some older zones like Deshaan or Stormhaven for nostalgia farming - same story! High levels farming old motifs or whatever, blocking paths, AoE bombing everything in sight. And don't get me started on new players trying to learn - good luck getting a clean pull without getting one-shot by some overgeared players bar swap.
Why is this happening?
Daily delve rewards got buffed, so EVERYONE's piling in.
Overland difficulty tweaks in Season Zero made boss loot more tempting.
New season hype - everyone's rushing achievements and skyshard hunting on alts.
No population caps or instancing for delves. Public dungeons at least feel manageable, but delves? Nah.
This is solo content, ZOS! Not a battleground. I shouldn't need to LFG a "delve train" just to do my dailies without a circus.
Suggestions:
Add an optional instance queue for delves - solo or small group only, scaled rewards.
Population caps per delve, phase players out if too full.
Make boss loot instanced/personal only with no shared tags, or add a cooldown.
Solo delve daily variant that auto-instances you.
Come on, devs - we've begged for this since Gold Road. Performance improvements are great [citation needed], but fix the crowds first! Who's with me? Upvote if your last delve run felt like Blackwood dolmens on Jubilee weekend.
Rant over. /rant
TL;DR: Delves = player Zergs now. Instanced solo option PLS ZOS!
I've been playing ESO since launch, and delves have always been my go-to for a quick, chill solo grind. You know the drill: sneak in, clear some trash, smack the boss for that sweet skyshard/lead/motif, grab the lorebooks, and bounce. Perfect for alts, dailies, or just unwinding after a vet dungeon run.
But holy Daedra, what happened in Season Zero?! Every single delve is a freaking mosh pit! I queue up my daily random delve, and bam - 8-12 players already camping the boss like it's Cyrodiil prime real estate. I try to pull some mobs for XP? Nope, some CP 2000 speed demon swoops in on their stamina DK and steals the whole pack. Boss down? Everyone tags it at once, loot table explodes (personal loot ftw, but still...), and lag spikes turn the whole thing into a slideshow.
Tried some older zones like Deshaan or Stormhaven for nostalgia farming - same story! High levels farming old motifs or whatever, blocking paths, AoE bombing everything in sight. And don't get me started on new players trying to learn - good luck getting a clean pull without getting one-shot by some overgeared players bar swap.
Why is this happening?
Daily delve rewards got buffed, so EVERYONE's piling in.
Overland difficulty tweaks in Season Zero made boss loot more tempting.
New season hype - everyone's rushing achievements and skyshard hunting on alts.
No population caps or instancing for delves. Public dungeons at least feel manageable, but delves? Nah.
This is solo content, ZOS! Not a battleground. I shouldn't need to LFG a "delve train" just to do my dailies without a circus.
Suggestions:
Add an optional instance queue for delves - solo or small group only, scaled rewards.
Population caps per delve, phase players out if too full.
Make boss loot instanced/personal only with no shared tags, or add a cooldown.
Solo delve daily variant that auto-instances you.
Come on, devs - we've begged for this since Gold Road. Performance improvements are great [citation needed], but fix the crowds first! Who's with me? Upvote if your last delve run felt like Blackwood dolmens on Jubilee weekend.
Rant over. /rant
TL;DR: Delves = player Zergs now. Instanced solo option PLS ZOS!
Re: And like that, Grey Host and Imperial City are Ghost Towns Again [PS-NA]
No, it didn't. Do we have to go over the player cap being 3x bigger in Vengeance than GH again?
The problem is performance. Vengeance fixes that.
Except it doesn’t. Performance during the last round of Vengeance got laggy for a lot of folks toward the end. And honestly? Bardok is right. The people voted with their feet, and GH out-populated Vengeance when both were offered simultaneously. You can say that Vengeance is the future all you want, that doesn’t change the fact that the players whose opinions hold the most weight in these matters (PvP players) opted to not engage with it when they had a choice.
And if Vengeance were implemented as the only option? PvP would die. Do not pass go, do not collect $200, go straight into a coffin. Oh sure, it would do great for the first couple of months while people play with the shiny new thing. But once everyone gets used to it and sees it for the stale, uninspired zergfest that it is, it’s game over.
DLC Undaunted Pledges
Could we have a second pledge-giver for the daily Undaunted DLC dungeons?
There's a lot more DLC dungeons than there are for base game, but only Urgarlag Chief-Bane to assign the pledges for them.
There's a lot more DLC dungeons than there are for base game, but only Urgarlag Chief-Bane to assign the pledges for them.
Cydonia60
10
Re: Delves are way too Overcrowded....
I wouldn't mind instanced delves because some of them, especially those in the base game, are small, so all it takes are 2-3 players for there to be a lot of interference with each other.
It's really irritating when I've almost cleared the way to the boss, and a player runs by me and burns it down. I'm not sure why players can't just wait an extra 15 seconds when they know someone else is almost at the boss.
A 5-minute spawn rate is too slow. Make it a minute. Or 30 seconds. Why do we always have to wait 5 minutes? That goes for WBs too. As for the trash mobs, delves are designed to be a loop, so have the mobs quickly respawn. That way if someone comes in behind, the delve isn't empty.
Anyway, I would be okay with instanced delves, but perhaps there are other changes ZOS can make to alleviate some of the existing problems.
It's really irritating when I've almost cleared the way to the boss, and a player runs by me and burns it down. I'm not sure why players can't just wait an extra 15 seconds when they know someone else is almost at the boss.
A 5-minute spawn rate is too slow. Make it a minute. Or 30 seconds. Why do we always have to wait 5 minutes? That goes for WBs too. As for the trash mobs, delves are designed to be a loop, so have the mobs quickly respawn. That way if someone comes in behind, the delve isn't empty.
Anyway, I would be okay with instanced delves, but perhaps there are other changes ZOS can make to alleviate some of the existing problems.
AzuraFan
5
Re: A medium term solution to the subclassing issue: nerf until it's below the level of pure classes.
Good grief! A simple adjustment to Fatecarver and there is no issue.
Stop blaming subclassing because players will just make more "pure" Arcanists and Fatecarver would remain.
Stop blaming subclassing because players will just make more "pure" Arcanists and Fatecarver would remain.
Re: Delves are way too Overcrowded....
How many people you see or don't see is honestly irrelevant to this conversation. A delve isn't made for people to just stand there and look at each other, with 20 people squished into a narrow hallway. Nobody goes into delves for that. Anybody who is trying to act like that's the case, clearly has no argument to make in this discussion.
A delve is made for a specific gameplay loop. You enter, you progress through the linear map killing the enemies on the way (that's why they are placed there, otherwise the devs would have kept the delve empty), you pick up a quest if one is present and do it, you reach the boss and kill it, pick up the skyshard, then leave the delve. That's the loop. That's what a delve is and how it is meant to work. How do we know that this is what a delve is? Because that's what the devs made it. Once again, it is not an empty map with some sort of podium for you to show off your very original crown bought costume. If it were, then that's what it would be built to be.
So if the delve is made for that specific gameplay loop, then when functioning as intended, players should be able to participate in every step of said loop. And that is where we get the issue. A new player walks into the delve and... well it's completely devoid of enemies and instead filled with players. The player walks through empty hallways, picks up a quest, and if it requires killing has to then stand in an empty room scratching their head and waiting for respawns, they then proceed down more empty hallways to an already dead boss. They pick up the skyshard with no additional actions required, because the mobs around already got cleared. The boss respawns, they only have time to do one light attack once before some bomber build falls down from the ceiling and the boss explodes in a sea of visual particle effects. An achievement pops up on the screen, but it surely doesn't feel like anything was achieved. The player scratches their head and leaves the delve wondering if they were doing something wrong.
That player, in that moment, couldn't care less what the game's population is. They did not feel any cool social component. They feel robbed of gameplay, they feel robbed of accomplishing something, they feel a lack of immersion. This same thing will repeat many times in future delves and soon enough the player won't care anymore. Soon they will do the exact same thing everyone does, sprint through the hallways, pick up a letter and skip through dialogue, because who cares honestly, delves are the least immersive content in the game with the way they work, rush to the shard, try to get one hit in on the already dying boss (what was that boss anyways, nobody even has time to see what they look like, what they are called, what the lore is surrounding their presence here) and rush out to continue with better content. Which is a huge shame and will always remain that, because delves actually do have really cool lore sometimes and would be wonderful to experience in their entirety. You just don't get to.
And this experience btw, absolutely does not make the game appear more populated or more healthy. Delves are small and cramped, and they do not require other players due to difficulty. When you rarely manage to do a delve alone, you do not feel like you miss anything. When you do it with others, you do not feel like you gain anything. When you are out in the world and you want to do a world boss and nobody is around, and nobody reacts in chat?? That's when you feel the population being too small. When you queue for some sort of content where you need a group and it takes forever?? That's when you feel the population being too small. When you have been trading for more than 10 years and for years now you notice that you sell less and less and less? That's when you feel the population being too small. And me walking into a crowded delve doesn't change any of that, it is at most a silly illusion that might persist for the 30 seconds you need to clear the thing. So no. People being in the delve doesn't in any way boost the game's population. Nor would people not being in the delve do the opposite. The population is directly related to lack of content, bugs, state of pvp, balancing issues, etc etc. Not to how many people are in a delve.
A delve is made for a specific gameplay loop. You enter, you progress through the linear map killing the enemies on the way (that's why they are placed there, otherwise the devs would have kept the delve empty), you pick up a quest if one is present and do it, you reach the boss and kill it, pick up the skyshard, then leave the delve. That's the loop. That's what a delve is and how it is meant to work. How do we know that this is what a delve is? Because that's what the devs made it. Once again, it is not an empty map with some sort of podium for you to show off your very original crown bought costume. If it were, then that's what it would be built to be.
So if the delve is made for that specific gameplay loop, then when functioning as intended, players should be able to participate in every step of said loop. And that is where we get the issue. A new player walks into the delve and... well it's completely devoid of enemies and instead filled with players. The player walks through empty hallways, picks up a quest, and if it requires killing has to then stand in an empty room scratching their head and waiting for respawns, they then proceed down more empty hallways to an already dead boss. They pick up the skyshard with no additional actions required, because the mobs around already got cleared. The boss respawns, they only have time to do one light attack once before some bomber build falls down from the ceiling and the boss explodes in a sea of visual particle effects. An achievement pops up on the screen, but it surely doesn't feel like anything was achieved. The player scratches their head and leaves the delve wondering if they were doing something wrong.
That player, in that moment, couldn't care less what the game's population is. They did not feel any cool social component. They feel robbed of gameplay, they feel robbed of accomplishing something, they feel a lack of immersion. This same thing will repeat many times in future delves and soon enough the player won't care anymore. Soon they will do the exact same thing everyone does, sprint through the hallways, pick up a letter and skip through dialogue, because who cares honestly, delves are the least immersive content in the game with the way they work, rush to the shard, try to get one hit in on the already dying boss (what was that boss anyways, nobody even has time to see what they look like, what they are called, what the lore is surrounding their presence here) and rush out to continue with better content. Which is a huge shame and will always remain that, because delves actually do have really cool lore sometimes and would be wonderful to experience in their entirety. You just don't get to.
And this experience btw, absolutely does not make the game appear more populated or more healthy. Delves are small and cramped, and they do not require other players due to difficulty. When you rarely manage to do a delve alone, you do not feel like you miss anything. When you do it with others, you do not feel like you gain anything. When you are out in the world and you want to do a world boss and nobody is around, and nobody reacts in chat?? That's when you feel the population being too small. When you queue for some sort of content where you need a group and it takes forever?? That's when you feel the population being too small. When you have been trading for more than 10 years and for years now you notice that you sell less and less and less? That's when you feel the population being too small. And me walking into a crowded delve doesn't change any of that, it is at most a silly illusion that might persist for the 30 seconds you need to clear the thing. So no. People being in the delve doesn't in any way boost the game's population. Nor would people not being in the delve do the opposite. The population is directly related to lack of content, bugs, state of pvp, balancing issues, etc etc. Not to how many people are in a delve.
Abelon
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