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Re: Poll: PvP HoT Stacking Options for Update 49
Perhaps we should give this the Pale Order treatment?
"While Battle Spirit is active, outgoing healing, health recovery, and shield strength reduced by x% per group member?"
(on top of the existing 50%)
Perhaps an increasing percentage with larger group size (to penalize smaller groups less), or starting with group sizes greater than 4?
Ex.
Group Size________Heal Penalty
1 ________________ 0%
2 ________________ 1%
3 ________________ 2%
4 ________________ 3%
5 ________________ 9%
6 ________________ 15%
7 ________________ 21%
8 ________________ 27%
9 ________________ 36%
10 ________________ 45%
11 ________________ 54%
12 ________________ 63%
or
Group Size________Heal Penalty
1 ________________ 0%
2 ________________ 0%
3 ________________ 0%
4 ________________ 0%
5 ________________ 9%
6 ________________ 18%
7 ________________ 27%
8 ________________ 36%
9 ________________ 45%
10 ________________ 54%
11 ________________ 63%
12 ________________ 72%
"While Battle Spirit is active, outgoing healing, health recovery, and shield strength reduced by x% per group member?"
(on top of the existing 50%)
Perhaps an increasing percentage with larger group size (to penalize smaller groups less), or starting with group sizes greater than 4?
Ex.
Group Size________Heal Penalty
1 ________________ 0%
2 ________________ 1%
3 ________________ 2%
4 ________________ 3%
5 ________________ 9%
6 ________________ 15%
7 ________________ 21%
8 ________________ 27%
9 ________________ 36%
10 ________________ 45%
11 ________________ 54%
12 ________________ 63%
or
Group Size________Heal Penalty
1 ________________ 0%
2 ________________ 0%
3 ________________ 0%
4 ________________ 0%
5 ________________ 9%
6 ________________ 18%
7 ________________ 27%
8 ________________ 36%
9 ________________ 45%
10 ________________ 54%
11 ________________ 63%
12 ________________ 72%
Nepenthe
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Re: PTS Update 49 - Feedback Thread for Night Market
That's my impression as well, though probably the other way around than you meant.Currently, one side is trying to shut out and silence the other with insults, accusations and manipulation towards the devs as to why our feedback isn't as valuable.
To make things more clear from where I come from:
This will be the only dungeon-like content for the entire year.
There will be lots and lots of solo and quest content.
But for dungeon groups, this is it. Nothing else.
And even that only for a limited time.
Which is, frankly speaking, scandalous, and a truly horrible design approach that should generate more outrage.
Time-gating content is bad, period.
And because they decided to not have variable difficulty, we get this awkward in-between that's neither completely right nor wrong for almost anyone.
But because this is the "dungeon" content for this year, players who like dungeon content would probably like to have at least a bit of a challenge, and that the difficulty not be turned down too much.
Because again, there will be lots of other stuff, that will be there forever.
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As for the feedback questions:
"How have you found the difficulty of the Night Market?"
Went in yesterday with basically a DK tank, with some adaptations. Survival was fine, and I could dragonbreathe down trash packs consistently, even though it was a bit slow.
Briefly grouped with another player for the Brazen Crow boss but had to disband because of time. Main issue were the adds, and with a full four-man group, they should die quickly enough.
"How do you feel about the distribution of rewards during this event zone?"
Didn't get a lot. A blue Mother's Sorrow robe, I think, from the "kill 25 enemies" daily. Shall I really tell you how I feel about that? ;D
"How did you enjoy the Event Zone?"
Quite ... confusing.
The UI is unhelpful and shows too much unnecessary information (faction score? why?) and too little information (what is a Skirmish, and why is it inactive? why is it under "Scoreboard"? how to get the keys for higher-tier bosses? etc.). Honestly, that needs a complete overhaul from the ground up.
The overworld entrance is well hidden and not reflected on the map at all.
The quest didn't work (see my post in the bug thread, and I also sent it in-game).
Couldn't accept quests and so on because of that bug.
When I die, I respawn on that platform in the centre. Why is that there, why do I respawn there and potentially very far away from what I actually wanted to do, and why is the respawn timer so frelling long? Also, the portal was sometimes non-interactable.
"How do you like the new Patrons?"
I liked them quite a lot. I'm not sure about the account-wide pledge - that may lead to one faction dominating the Night Market every single time it is up, if a dynamic develops in the first few days. (Currently, 1000Eyes has more than double the points than any other faction. If I went in for the first time now, I would of course join that faction, leading to a kind of snowball effect.) That remains to be seen but I think it'd be good to keep open about a change there if the competition never becomes one.
"Do you have any other general feedback?"
If keys are really character-bound (couldn't test that myself, if not true, then disregard), then that's a terrible idea.
Players want to be flexible in a group. Population is low and groups often don't fill. Real life means someone has to drop out on short notice. So many players can and will switch on short notice.
If they first have to go through a tedious key farm just because one of the healers didn't show up, that's (sorry) exceptionally **** idea.
Respawning should work like everywhere else. I don't understand the benefit of the current system, other than making the zone more tedious and frustrating.
Varana
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Re: Queuing for Cyro in IC when you have Tel Var - proposal
Jordan_Black wrote: »Largely I agree with you, but to be pedantic, it is not an exploit. An exploit is unintentional, like if someone figured out a bugged way to TP out of IC that was not fine with the devs. They're obviously fine with this and have been for a while, but currently thinking about a way to respond to player feedback.
It was an exploit, and it was publicly left as is because of things I mentioned above, and exploit became a feature other time, as many other things in the game
imPDA
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Re: Queuing for Cyro in IC when you have Tel Var - proposal
frogthroat wrote: »The tickets are and should remain accessible to all players even if they don't want to do PVE group content, or PVP. You don't lose anything even if PVE players who need to do more for the tickets during PVP event than you need to do during PVE events could just do the quest and port away.
You can still camp at quest locations to gank the unsuspecting PVE players to your heart's content. I never thought shooting fish in a barrel is a sport, but you do you. (I mean, why else would you be against PVE players being able to port away?)
You can still get the PVE tickets easy. And at least I am ok to carry you in dungeons and trials when you farm the next set that helps you in PVP when you come to die to mechanics with your PVP build.
I do recognise that porting away during combat is not good sportsmanship and the telvar limit is there to address it. I think it's a good idea. But 1000 telvars would be a good limit. You might not like it, but good players shouldn't care if PVE players port away after they do their ticket quest. When I do PVP I want to play against other PVP players. When I do my daily IC or Cyro quests I ignore enemy questers unless they attack me first. But then again, I don't get any satisfaction from killing a defenceless player and repeating to myself "I'm a big boy. I'm a big boy."
But it is not about event and event tickets, not about 2 MYM weeks in a year, it is about all other 50 weeks of IC gameplay, it says how core IC abuse will change. I would be glad to provide free Imperial Retreat Stones during this event to let people tp out after quests, I think it would be OK middleground for everyone during MYM.
I personally don't care about event and do not camp spawn points, not killing newbies again and again, it is not fun. During Mayhem it is fun to kill people and get hundreds of thousands of TV, for that you need to let them farm first, no need to camp
But all other time, outside of event, I am just trying to find good fights somewhere else in an open field, searching through all districts, and usually it ends with opponent porting out. Or me porting out. And it should stop. This abuse and exploit (and this are an exploit and abuse for sure, prove me wrong) exist because of ZOs, and because they were not passion about PvP at all, and had not enough "bandwidth" to address it in a last (how much?) 5 or 6 years, or even more. I am glad they are going to stop it, probably PvP has a chance for a better future than now if they started paying attention to things like that.
Offtopic, but PvP players can create perfect PvE builds and they do it, because in the end of a day, PvP requires a lot of PvE - sets, grind and level up skills and scribing, etc etc. I farmed Torc of the Last Ayleid King in two days after the patch was introduced, and my friend farmed it with me in the first day, he was luckier, while PvE players struggle to even do starting PvP build or understand the basics. I carried tons of PvEers in PvE. Almost every random vet trial in Craglorn ended up me having more group damage, because I followed meta arcanist 0 brain super mega beam build. I actually liked to help PvE players in Cyro and IC, I gave away like 4 or 5 PA ice staffs when it was meta while I was in a guild, and escorted group to Bruma and helped everyone to take all 3 Cyro cities during my first MYM while I had nothing else to do during calm. But people became worse over time and started whining even more about PvP, it just pissing me off. I can do PvE things perfectly, but they can't do nor PvE, nor PvP, and they are trying to make PvP worse, while I am not trying to screw PvE up. Why? Offtopic ended.
imPDA
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Re: Queuing for Cyro in IC when you have Tel Var - proposal
frogthroat wrote: »In the previous event, PVP players had to go to a PVE zone to light a candle.
I am sorry for ZOs to create such easy tasks all around the game and turning it into tamagotchi, where you have to log in every day to feed the horse, do dailies and then you can farm some sets in dungeons and even pass high end content with HA builds or arcanist beam builds with 0 brain activity involved into this. I wish they create equally hard content for PvE and PvP, that would make game fun again and achievements would gain meaning again.
Do you want to make event for PvE players in trials? I am voting "Yes, please", if it will make you to stop complaining about IC difficulty.
imPDA
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Re: Queuing for Cyro in IC when you have Tel Var - proposal
Once again, seems like some more new players arrived to discuss this topic here, so once again, IC was not intended to be a place with easy escape. I don't want to tell the history of changes, but current queue is a bug what players tried to change for a long time, and many of them left before this change implemented. It is hard change for newbies but take it as a bugfix and this is how IC designed initially: you have to reach certain point to extract (base) and save what you gained or lose half of it.
There always was intended way to evacuate fast:
It is not very cheap, but it is cheap.
It is OK this location repels PvE players and new players, etc. It is PvP location after all, and it is high end content, like trials. As in trials, if you are bad, only good group will help you to pass it. That is why there are guilds with IC raids btw, you can starts playing IC with them.
You don't have to play IC or do quests in it just because they exist after all.
There always was intended way to evacuate fast:
It is not very cheap, but it is cheap.
It is OK this location repels PvE players and new players, etc. It is PvP location after all, and it is high end content, like trials. As in trials, if you are bad, only good group will help you to pass it. That is why there are guilds with IC raids btw, you can starts playing IC with them.
You don't have to play IC or do quests in it just because they exist after all.
imPDA
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Re: Please do something about Wayshrine Guild Invite spam on PC-NA
Just wanted to post a perfect example of the bot in action. This is at Vulkhel Guard. It just sits in that little corner facing the wayshrine all day and night. Spamming the invites to that guild.
Re: New tome rewards: Monster slayer personality does not look good the way it is
The idle sword spinning animation looks cool, the walk and the run with it on our shoulders looks SO cool. It just is ruined entirely by it not being our own sword.
New tome rewards: Monster slayer personality does not look good the way it is
Please please please make the idle use our own weapons. It looks so janky having a random and frankly unappealing looking sword rest on our shoulder WHILE it clips through our currently equipped sword. I don't understand why we cant have our own character use our own equipment and not pull a sword out of the ether. I've been waiting for a personality idle that lets me lean a sword on my shoulder for so bloody long but with this iteration it will be DOA. Please reconsider this.