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The needed changes for stam Nightblades to make them viable again.

  • FlyLionel
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    I just want to state, remember when Zos nerfed vigor from cloak? Whether that was needed or not is up to you, but it is a nerf nonetheless. They buff DK's and I am pleased with that, but at the same time; meteors are undodgeable (skoria) they took our purge, I believe when DBrotherhood came with the major stamina buff for 'balance'. And the King/Queen of Dots in magic DK's literally destroy with these ticks; all while having the best CC control in the game, and they have leap now(coagulating+1). If you do not have field experience and know what I am talking about it is literally a direct counter. What have we gotten since the major stamina patch? A nerf to incap, which was a dummy proof 'fix'. Zos could have literally taken out the full CC and drop it to what it was since the game launched to that if you were lower health you get the CC, or just take the CC out and the morph would just scale with stamina...it is so frustrating to see these pinky 'fixes' by just raising the cost of the ultimate(when clearly it was the stun that got the average joe raging and got it nerfed). 1Tamriel came and we got all the sets every other class got, which does not count. I apologize for going on a mini rant but this is my main character since day one and I am passionate about Pvp (its the best). In the end, all I want back right now is purge. No I dont want a 5 dot purge, more like 1-3. If you disagree please tell me why, especially if you are a NB...I miss cloaking meteors lol..
    The Flyers
  • joe.smith21b14_ESO
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    KingJ wrote: »
    KingJ wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    kaotikross wrote: »
    Just a few thoughts:
    Nightblades are supposed to be spies, therefore, supposed to be ***. I earn my PVP points being a sneaky, dirty rat, staying out of the center of combat and just arrowing any enemy i can from the outside perimeter while heavily armored guys rush in for the glory. I also like to run defense, and keep a lot of ballistas and trebuchets as well as repair kits. If you're a big fan of rushing into the center, NB isn't gonna be for you on PVP.
    there are a few things you CAN do to increase your survival rate, little stuff, like Heavy Stamina Armor. Still, be prepared to run and hide- a lot. Be prepared to hide behind boulders so your little overhead Icon isn't visible when eluding pursuers.
    It's all about choosing your battles. You're weasely. You're sneaky. NB isn't a class for quick movement. Use the terrain. Find a large group and do support work. Cause distractions. Your Alliance sieging the castle? Hey, maybe ride to sacrifice yourself long enough at an enemy scroll temple to draw off the defenders. Just set up a ballista and get it mapmarked.

    Nb's are the fastest class in the game. What you talkin bout

    What makes them faster than a Sorc?
    Sorcs have the highest speed in the game. Hurricane minor expedition buff combined with major expedition give them a general higher movement speed than any other class.

    Incorrect sir a nb can in fact sneak faster than a orc stam sorc. I'm willing to put 50k if any one wants to test me.
    That's not what you said dude you stated a NB is the fastest class in the game no where did you mentioned in stealth. A stam sorc is the fastest class in the game.

    What does being in stealth change the fact that other classes are slower either way if in any situation the nb will move faster
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  • KingJ
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    KingJ wrote: »
    KingJ wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    kaotikross wrote: »
    Just a few thoughts:
    Nightblades are supposed to be spies, therefore, supposed to be ***. I earn my PVP points being a sneaky, dirty rat, staying out of the center of combat and just arrowing any enemy i can from the outside perimeter while heavily armored guys rush in for the glory. I also like to run defense, and keep a lot of ballistas and trebuchets as well as repair kits. If you're a big fan of rushing into the center, NB isn't gonna be for you on PVP.
    there are a few things you CAN do to increase your survival rate, little stuff, like Heavy Stamina Armor. Still, be prepared to run and hide- a lot. Be prepared to hide behind boulders so your little overhead Icon isn't visible when eluding pursuers.
    It's all about choosing your battles. You're weasely. You're sneaky. NB isn't a class for quick movement. Use the terrain. Find a large group and do support work. Cause distractions. Your Alliance sieging the castle? Hey, maybe ride to sacrifice yourself long enough at an enemy scroll temple to draw off the defenders. Just set up a ballista and get it mapmarked.

    Nb's are the fastest class in the game. What you talkin bout

    What makes them faster than a Sorc?
    Sorcs have the highest speed in the game. Hurricane minor expedition buff combined with major expedition give them a general higher movement speed than any other class.

    Incorrect sir a nb can in fact sneak faster than a orc stam sorc. I'm willing to put 50k if any one wants to test me.
    That's not what you said dude you stated a NB is the fastest class in the game no where did you mentioned in stealth. A stam sorc is the fastest class in the game.

    What does being in stealth change the fact that other classes are slower either way if in any situation the nb will move faster
    The NB will only move faster if both are in stealth if the NB in stealth and the stamsorc is sprinting the Stamsorc will dust the NB. If both are out of the stealth the sorc wins.
  • thankyourat
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    KingJ wrote: »
    KingJ wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    kaotikross wrote: »
    Just a few thoughts:
    Nightblades are supposed to be spies, therefore, supposed to be ***. I earn my PVP points being a sneaky, dirty rat, staying out of the center of combat and just arrowing any enemy i can from the outside perimeter while heavily armored guys rush in for the glory. I also like to run defense, and keep a lot of ballistas and trebuchets as well as repair kits. If you're a big fan of rushing into the center, NB isn't gonna be for you on PVP.
    there are a few things you CAN do to increase your survival rate, little stuff, like Heavy Stamina Armor. Still, be prepared to run and hide- a lot. Be prepared to hide behind boulders so your little overhead Icon isn't visible when eluding pursuers.
    It's all about choosing your battles. You're weasely. You're sneaky. NB isn't a class for quick movement. Use the terrain. Find a large group and do support work. Cause distractions. Your Alliance sieging the castle? Hey, maybe ride to sacrifice yourself long enough at an enemy scroll temple to draw off the defenders. Just set up a ballista and get it mapmarked.

    Nb's are the fastest class in the game. What you talkin bout

    What makes them faster than a Sorc?
    Sorcs have the highest speed in the game. Hurricane minor expedition buff combined with major expedition give them a general higher movement speed than any other class.

    Incorrect sir a nb can in fact sneak faster than a orc stam sorc. I'm willing to put 50k if any one wants to test me.
    That's not what you said dude you stated a NB is the fastest class in the game no where did you mentioned in stealth. A stam sorc is the fastest class in the game.

    What does being in stealth change the fact that other classes are slower either way if in any situation the nb will move faster

    Magicka nightblade has like a 25% movement speed buff from concealed weapon and a 30% movement speed buff from major expedition coming out to a 55% increase in movement speed. A stam sorc has 10% increase from minor expedition, 30% increase from major expedition, and a 40% increase from sprint speed which totals to 80% increase in movement speed. I'm not really seeing where a nightblade is faster than a sorc. A nightblade will move faster out of stealth since sprint speed is higher than the boost you get from concealed weapon, and since sorcs have minor expedition they will always be faster.
  • joe.smith21b14_ESO
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    Like I said 50k if y'all prove me wrong
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  • thankyourat
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    Like I said 50k if y'all prove me wrong

    I mean unless you know some secret set that improves your stealth movement speed by over 30% you owe me 50k
  • technohic
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    Is this using streak as well?
  • joe.smith21b14_ESO
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    Like I said 50k if y'all prove me wrong

    Also put in vamp for that equas
    Like I said 50k if y'all prove me wrong

    I mean unless you know some secret set that improves your stealth movement speed by over 30% you owe me 50k

    When I say prove me wrong I mean hop on the game and out run me.
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  • joe.smith21b14_ESO
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    technohic wrote: »
    Is this using streak as well?

    Sure
    Edited by joe.smith21b14_ESO on 3 April 2017 17:20
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Never seen anyone faster than my NB, in actual scenarios the NB will always be faster.
  • joe.smith21b14_ESO
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    Never seen anyone faster than my NB, in actual scenarios the NB will always be faster.

    This guy knows what I'm saying
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