Vote-kick is OK and opens the way for bonuses to needed roles in the random dungeon selector. Giving a bonus to rewards for tanks when they are in short supply, for example, but being able to /kick those who fraudently queue as a tank just to get a group. This can be further balanced and made more positive by adding a commendation/rec system wherein each party member can commend one other group member at the end of a run with a random group. Plenty of time to slip those additional features in before the update goes live on PC, right?

(Oh, and how about getting an extra reward of gold and add in a bonus to raising the undaunted skill line for doing five randoms in a day or something like that?)

I'm too eager to find out how the champion system will fully work as a vet lvl replacement, also will enemies stay on their respective vet lvls?

Example: Will the daedra and soldiers of imperial city still be vet 16? will enemies in craglorn still be vet 11? Will enemies in cadwell's silver and gold still have their respective vet lvls? Or will they all be downscaled to 50?

Some one please confirm?

AddictionX wrote: »

I really hope for the stamina buff and I hope its not just a dps buff...

Fighters guild buff!!! YESSS hopefully its use-able to more than just mainly ganking and before some smart ass comes and explain to me the tool tip .... i say to you cut the Dont deny what people mostly use it for..

Says balance improvement to fighter's guild skill line, whether it is an actual buff remains to be seen.

Item locking alone will be worth it for me.

kalimar44 wrote: »

I think vet removal is going mess this game all up. To many things are tied into vet ranks. How are you going to balance that? I've never played MMO that removed a big part of there game like this. Good luck Zen with this.

Its easy, just don't remove anything, RENAME it. vr16 will be 160CP and so on.

While I'm not so thrilled about the removal of Vet Ranks (I must be the only guy who likes them, and doesn't mind Questing to work my way through them...), I can deal with it as long as the alternative is done well.

But for the rest of the "First Look", I'm really, really excited.

@ZOS_GinaBruno does this mean console text chat isn't coming with the DB patch?

DARK BROTHERHOOD DLC GAME PACK FEATURES & CONTENT

Join the Dark Brotherhood and become an assassin for hire
Visit the Gold Coast, available to characters of all levels, where you can explore Anvil and Kvatch for the first time since The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Hours of exciting story content and quests that will have you revisiting your favorite areas of Tamriel
New, repeatable quest content involving Contracts and the Black Sacrament
Challenging new group bosses and delves to conquer
A new passive skill line exclusive to members of the Dark Brotherhood
Unique costumes, motifs and item sets inspired by the deadly Dark Brotherhood

Sounds nice. Hope it's a bit longer than the Thieves Guild. Finished that in a week - save for the trial - and haven't felt compelled to go back there.

BASE GAME PATCH FEATURES & CONTENT

The removal of Veteran Ranks

Meh... Never asked for it. Let's see how it goes.

Poison-Making, for those who want to be especially nasty to their enemies

This could be interesting, but I'm curious about balancing. If you can do massive poison damage together with hard-hitting abilities - think stealthy NB snipe spammer ganker - it could become yet another issue in PvP.

Toggle-able nameplates for all characters
Character name display for Xbox One and PlayStation®4

Meh. Not going to use it myself, but I guess it can't hurt that others can enable it. The console thing seems to be good news, they've been playing for close to a year with their character names rendered meaningless.

Item locking to help prevent accidental deconstruction of your most valuable items

Good, it's one of those things that just make sense and add-on creators had already stepped in to fix. While you're at it: Advanced Filters? Awesome Guild Store? Alpha Gear? Those all should be in the base game for PC/Mac and consoles alike.

Further improvements and new features to the Grouping Tool including a group ready check, vote-to-kick system, and updated queue timer

Will you be removing the ability for the leader to disband the group? Please do.

Tons of updates to the Crown Store including additional character slots, motif previews, and hats

Character slots are the first thing I see that actually makes sense in the Crown Store. Should have been the first thing there. Don't know if I'll use them, but at least it's not texture packs applied on the same old 3d models. Also, while you're working on previews, PLEASE introduce a full-blown item preview system. The tiny icons you get at crafting stations are pitiful as a way to see what gear will look like on your character. Let us dress up and equip our characters with mock gear from any level/style/weight combination with a full 3d model of our character similar to the one in the character selection screen.

Craft Bags for ESO Plus members

As a 0-day subscriber, I approve of this.

Improvements and adjustments to Item Traits

Are you removing well-fitted from the game? You are removing it, aren't you? Aren't you? Also, are you removing staffs with tanky set bonuses and heavy armour with DPS set bonuses from the loot tables?

Ongoing Cyrodiil performance improvements

*grabs popcorn*

Sanctum Ophidia Trial scaling, rebalancing and the addition of a Normal and Veteran mode

So will you be making it kind of like Maw of Lorkhaj, where the vet version is very hard and the normal version is tough, but beatable by moderatly good groups? Also, will the gear drops scale to max level? If so, why just SO and not AA/Hel-Ra/DSA?

Balance improvements to combat and gameplay abilities including the Fighters Guild skill line, Vampires and stamina abilities
…and more!

You are going to test them thoroughly on the PTS, aren't you? Also, whoever is "balancing" skills is actually playing the game, aren't they?

In addition, we have numerous changes and improvements for previous DLC game packs including a new District capture system for Imperial City, and rebalancing for the Imperial City dungeons.

So, WGT and ICP nerf confirmed?

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Yep! It's happening in the next update, for real.

holy crap gina!, thanks!

What I really want to know is if the "VR removal plan" has changed any since we last saw the general outline. Or is the plan still as it was presented?

tinythinker wrote: »

Vote-kick is OK and opens the way for bonuses to needed roles in the random dungeon selector. Giving a bonus to rewards for tanks when they are in short supply, for example, but being able to /kick those who fraudently queue as a tank just to get a group. This can be further balanced and made more positive by adding a commendation/rec system wherein each party member can commend one other group member at the end of a run with a random group. Plenty of time to slip those additional features in before the update goes live on PC, right?

(Oh, and how about getting an extra reward of gold and add in a bonus to raising the undaunted skill line for doing five randoms in a day or something like that?)

I love your ideas @tinythinker but I don't agree that a vote-kick system won't help with fake tanks. If the tank isn't really a tank, do you think it's going to be that hard to have the others in the group agree with you?

Lysette wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

DARK BROTHERHOOD DLC GAME PACK FEATURES & CONTENT

Join the Dark Brotherhood and become an assassin for hire
Visit the Gold Coast, available to characters of all levels, where you can explore Anvil and Kvatch for the first time since The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Hours of exciting story content and quests that will have you revisiting your favorite areas of Tamriel
New, repeatable quest content involving Contracts and the Black Sacrament
Challenging new group bosses and delves to conquer
A new passive skill line exclusive to members of the Dark Brotherhood
Unique costumes, motifs and item sets inspired by the deadly Dark Brotherhood

Sounds nice. Hope it's a bit longer than the Thieves Guild. Finished that in a week - save for the trial - and haven't felt compelled to go back there.

BASE GAME PATCH FEATURES & CONTENT

The removal of Veteran Ranks

Meh... Never asked for it. Let's see how it goes.

Poison-Making, for those who want to be especially nasty to their enemies

This could be interesting, but I'm curious about balancing. If you can do massive poison damage together with hard-hitting abilities - think stealthy NB snipe spammer ganker - it could become yet another issue in PvP.

Toggle-able nameplates for all characters
Character name display for Xbox One and PlayStation®4

Meh. Not going to use it myself, but I guess it can't hurt that others can enable it. The console thing seems to be good news, they've been playing for close to a year with their character names rendered meaningless.

Item locking to help prevent accidental deconstruction of your most valuable items

Good, it's one of those things that just make sense and add-on creators had already stepped in to fix. While you're at it: Advanced Filters? Awesome Guild Store? Alpha Gear? Those all should be in the base game for PC/Mac and consoles alike.

Further improvements and new features to the Grouping Tool including a group ready check, vote-to-kick system, and updated queue timer

Will you be removing the ability for the leader to disband the group? Please do.

Tons of updates to the Crown Store including additional character slots, motif previews, and hats

Character slots are the first thing I see that actually makes sense in the Crown Store. Should have been the first thing there. Don't know if I'll use them, but at least it's not texture packs applied on the same old 3d models. Also, while you're working on previews, PLEASE introduce a full-blown item preview system. The tiny icons you get at crafting stations are pitiful as a way to see what gear will look like on your character. Let us dress up and equip our characters with mock gear from any level/style/weight combination with a full 3d model of our character similar to the one in the character selection screen.

Craft Bags for ESO Plus members

As a 0-day subscriber, I approve of this.

Improvements and adjustments to Item Traits

Are you removing well-fitted from the game? You are removing it, aren't you? Aren't you? Also, are you removing staffs with tanky set bonuses and heavy armour with DPS set bonuses from the loot tables?

Ongoing Cyrodiil performance improvements

*grabs popcorn*

Sanctum Ophidia Trial scaling, rebalancing and the addition of a Normal and Veteran mode

So will you be making it kind of like Maw of Lorkhaj, where the vet version is very hard and the normal version is tough, but beatable by moderatly good groups? Also, will the gear drops scale to max level? If so, why just SO and not AA/Hel-Ra/DSA?

Balance improvements to combat and gameplay abilities including the Fighters Guild skill line, Vampires and stamina abilities
…and more!

You are going to test them thoroughly on the PTS, aren't you? Also, whoever is "balancing" skills is actually playing the game, aren't they?

In addition, we have numerous changes and improvements for previous DLC game packs including a new District capture system for Imperial City, and rebalancing for the Imperial City dungeons.

So, WGT and ICP nerf confirmed?

Why the heck are so many against well-fitted?- I like this trait, maybe it is not that useful on higher levels, but at lower levels it allows me to sprint for more than double the time than without it, with all 7 armor pieces made well-fitted.

... because its a useless trait other than "low level" lol I mean you answered that yourself

Lysette wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

DARK BROTHERHOOD DLC GAME PACK FEATURES & CONTENT

Join the Dark Brotherhood and become an assassin for hire
Visit the Gold Coast, available to characters of all levels, where you can explore Anvil and Kvatch for the first time since The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Hours of exciting story content and quests that will have you revisiting your favorite areas of Tamriel
New, repeatable quest content involving Contracts and the Black Sacrament
Challenging new group bosses and delves to conquer
A new passive skill line exclusive to members of the Dark Brotherhood
Unique costumes, motifs and item sets inspired by the deadly Dark Brotherhood

Sounds nice. Hope it's a bit longer than the Thieves Guild. Finished that in a week - save for the trial - and haven't felt compelled to go back there.

BASE GAME PATCH FEATURES & CONTENT

The removal of Veteran Ranks

Meh... Never asked for it. Let's see how it goes.

Poison-Making, for those who want to be especially nasty to their enemies

This could be interesting, but I'm curious about balancing. If you can do massive poison damage together with hard-hitting abilities - think stealthy NB snipe spammer ganker - it could become yet another issue in PvP.

Toggle-able nameplates for all characters
Character name display for Xbox One and PlayStation®4

Meh. Not going to use it myself, but I guess it can't hurt that others can enable it. The console thing seems to be good news, they've been playing for close to a year with their character names rendered meaningless.

Item locking to help prevent accidental deconstruction of your most valuable items

Good, it's one of those things that just make sense and add-on creators had already stepped in to fix. While you're at it: Advanced Filters? Awesome Guild Store? Alpha Gear? Those all should be in the base game for PC/Mac and consoles alike.

Further improvements and new features to the Grouping Tool including a group ready check, vote-to-kick system, and updated queue timer

Will you be removing the ability for the leader to disband the group? Please do.

Tons of updates to the Crown Store including additional character slots, motif previews, and hats

Character slots are the first thing I see that actually makes sense in the Crown Store. Should have been the first thing there. Don't know if I'll use them, but at least it's not texture packs applied on the same old 3d models. Also, while you're working on previews, PLEASE introduce a full-blown item preview system. The tiny icons you get at crafting stations are pitiful as a way to see what gear will look like on your character. Let us dress up and equip our characters with mock gear from any level/style/weight combination with a full 3d model of our character similar to the one in the character selection screen.

Craft Bags for ESO Plus members

As a 0-day subscriber, I approve of this.

Improvements and adjustments to Item Traits

Are you removing well-fitted from the game? You are removing it, aren't you? Aren't you? Also, are you removing staffs with tanky set bonuses and heavy armour with DPS set bonuses from the loot tables?

Ongoing Cyrodiil performance improvements

*grabs popcorn*

Sanctum Ophidia Trial scaling, rebalancing and the addition of a Normal and Veteran mode

So will you be making it kind of like Maw of Lorkhaj, where the vet version is very hard and the normal version is tough, but beatable by moderatly good groups? Also, will the gear drops scale to max level? If so, why just SO and not AA/Hel-Ra/DSA?

Balance improvements to combat and gameplay abilities including the Fighters Guild skill line, Vampires and stamina abilities
…and more!

You are going to test them thoroughly on the PTS, aren't you? Also, whoever is "balancing" skills is actually playing the game, aren't they?

In addition, we have numerous changes and improvements for previous DLC game packs including a new District capture system for Imperial City, and rebalancing for the Imperial City dungeons.

So, WGT and ICP nerf confirmed?

Why the heck are so many against well-fitted?- I like this trait, maybe it is not that useful on higher levels, but at lower levels it allows me to sprint for more than double the time than without it, with all 7 armor pieces made well-fitted.

... because its a useless trait other than "low level" lol I mean you answered that yourself

And that means you guys want it removed, because it just benefits low levels?- What a selfish point of view, be ashamed that you even laugh about it.

Where did I say remove it, I don't believe I said that, what's with the odd claim like that. I called it useless which it is, and ZOS noticed a lot of people had said that and so you have this;

Improvements and adjustments to Item Traits

There's no denying it's useless apart from what you just said, and if you think that is fine to leave it as it is, then I don't know what to tell you.
There is currently only 3 desired traits in game: Divines, Impenetrable and Reinforced (to a point). I'm glad ZOS are adjusting to give us more choices to whatever they will be.