Is this the removal of Veteran Ranks?! (DARK BROTHERHOOD NEWS)

ManwithBeard9

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

hrothbern wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Looking over the eight pages of this thread, a realization occurs to me.

Half of our issues right now are created by Zenimax and their timing.

Whether you are for the removal of VR's or are against the removal, the timing and nature of the announcement sucks. They announced that VR's are going away with the release of the Dark Brotherhood. OK, I can understand that. But that's all they've told us.

They basically said: "OK guys, here's a sneak peek at what we're doing. We know that the removal of VR's is an extremely divisive issue in the Community, but we're only letting you know that they're going away and not telling you even the slightest bit about how we're doing it! So go ahead and speculate aimlessly and flame the dog crap out of each other while we hold off on any actual information for a month or longer!"

@ZOS_GinaBruno : While I am generally supportive of Zenimax, your handling of this game, and the updates you make to it to keep it running well and fun in most every aspect; I highly resent a bomb of this magnitude dropping on this Forum Community with zero information to keep the furor to a respectable level. Especially with such an emotionally charged issue about a game that people obviously feel deeply involved with.

This could have been handled much better. I also understand that as Community Manager, your hands were most likely very well tied as far as what information you were/were not allowed to share. So my ire isn't directed at you primarily. My ire is devoted to the people above you whom have ham-stringed you and did not allow any substantive information to be released regarding an issue of this magnitude.

Any Forum wars are your fault, Zenimax. I hope that's clear.

haha

info is apparently never enough for some people

1. If you say: "we are thinking about it"..... some people demand: "are you working on it !"
2. if you say: "we are working on it".... some people say: "are you working on it ?"
3. if you say again and again and again: "we are working on it"....... some people demand: "ETA, ETA, ETA... "
4. If you give an ETA..... some people say: "but what exactly ?, give us more info, we demand...."
5. If you give more info...... some people will say that the sky will fall down and it is bugged anyway
6. If the PTS is released and the natch potes as well..... some other people start testing

And look over the sheer bull-*** of the past 8-9 pages of flaming and vitriolic arguing. You're still going to try to tell me that some information alongside the reveal of VR's going away wouldn't have helped keep a lid on the furor?

The vast majority of comments on this thread are questions that have already been answered before.Crafting, concept of CP ranks and new level labels, skill points and attribute points. And frankly, clamoring for more info from what is clearly a SNEAK PEEK at what is to come for the DLC is moronic and childish. You know they will be doing ESO Lives in the coming weeks, as well as releasing articles about it. Theres no need to whine and stamp your feet about "a lack of information".

sentientomega

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys! We know there's a lot of questions about how Veteran Rank removal is going to work, and we will be publishing details on everything in the near future. Remember this article was just a first look; we're not going to leave you high and dry on the details for big changes like this.

Will we also get to know what the new character limit per server will be??

Almakor

My Many Questions:
If they're going to remove Veteran ranks, what are they going to do about Veteran dungeons? Will they take away the skill points we got from the ranks? Does taking the ranks away mean that the special sets will not max out at certain ranks like Relic of Rebellion at V12 and Undaunted sets at V14, but will now come in all levels? Finally, are there plans to add more levels; go all the way up to level 100 like in other games?

Night_Child

About removing veteran ranks: JUST MY THOUGHTS.

I like the fact that they are removing "veteran ranks." I think veteran ranks and anything like it across the MMO genre is nothing more than a label though, really, and not much else. Why not just put level cap at 50 instead...from the beginning? With every expansion after that, they should have raised the level cap by 5; i.e. Imperial City expansion would raise the cap to 55, Orsinium to 60, etc. That way players have something to strive for as they excel in PVE. Also, Trials, Group (4-man) Dungeons should scale to whatever territory they are in. An example would be any dungeon/trial in Hew's Bane would be level 65. Any in the main land would not be above 50, but remain the top level of the particular bracketed territory that they are found in. In PVP, (aside from IC as that expansion would obviously have the levels set in the middle of Cyrodill to 55) bracket the levels by 10 to ensure that no one gets steamrolled (thanks to CPs). If they removed vet ranks at this point and still followed THIS particular style of playing...us vet 16 characters would become 65 and with Dark Brotherhood, we'd be looking ahead to level 70, which is what we would be looking forward to if they never implemented vet ranks to begin with and scaled 5 levels for each expansion.

I mean...the people who have reached vet rank 16 get what for the amount of xp they earned? I think the amount of xp gained through the 15 post levels was worth a little more than just a couple of CP (or equivalent) for each level they would take away from us. Whatever they plan on giving us in exchange for our time, effort, and levels, I just want to make sure that us players are not being shorted.

They could still make it happen with updates to come. They wouldn't have to trash or throw away work that they have already completed and handed us. Just work one area at a time and scale the damage/healing output/received to be appropriate for the levels of the specific territory being worked on at that time.