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Incapacitating Strike Silence 5.0.3

  • WeylandLabs
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    For all the Stam Sorcs looking at this also our arms are wide open to nightblades for embrace as we whisper in your ear. -

    "Welcome to the club brother" 😂


    We can give therapy - on how to deal with these changes.

    We can do a one on one sit down and talk it out.

    We don't recommend that you, go crazy on the forums trying to revert this. That will make the ZOS gods upset, as they will keep nerfing you into oblivion.

    Also - if you dont kill that person prepare to be forcefully bagged hard.

    And remember it's just a game have fun - make a Necro join the new Brotherhood 👍
  • echo2omega
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    So.

    Nightblades have a hard counter to all magicka classes with no counter play...
  • John_1999
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    you forgot to give surprise attack a 1000% damage buff against silenced players. @Zeni
    Edited by John_1999 on 7 May 2019 21:14
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  • Minno
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    Xvorg wrote: »
    Really? People defending this overbuff?

    I hope they also increase the cost. 120 ulti for silence is too cheap

    250 ULT COST
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  • Neoauspex
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    Hahahahaha @ZOS_Gilliam good one. P.S. nerf Templar, why the @#% not.
  • Insco851
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    Lol this is gonna go live isn’t it.... I’m a mag main.... this is gonna go live isn’t it....

    Stam necro it is then huh...
  • Cortimi
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    Cortimi wrote: »
    I REALLY hope this is a real thing, so I can watch all the magsorcs have a complete and total meltdown over finally being killable.

    This isn't a magsorc issue. This is an issue for every single magicka class.

    As a Stamplar, I will wait with my little bucket to collect the tears.
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    Urvoth wrote: »
    CP is a crutch for people who can’t sustain and want to be "tanky" so they aren’t immediately punished for making mistakes.
  • Iskiab
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    I don’t think it’s too bad, have to see it on live to test it. At first I though 3 seconds was too long, but dizzy swing is 2 seconds of unbreakable cc at least because of the knock back animation, and it’s spammable, plus there’s a bug where stacking cc means you can’t break free.

    It’ll definitely change Stamblades into a threat against experienced pvpers and forget about being a glass canon.
    Edited by Iskiab on 7 May 2019 21:17
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  • WeylandLabs
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    Nightblade: Incapped that dudes hairline back -

    Stam Sorc : That was nice - I understand your class has always been really good.

    Zenimax : Hold my beer - 😂
  • Miswar
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    Oh my.. why does ZoS keep releasing broken skills when even smallest braincell amount does tell you that is utterly broken!

    A skill that has no counterplay... seems like some ZoS developers really struggle to kill anything with this class.

    Who's "excellent" idea was this again? *irony*
  • olsborg
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    Even if they revert it. They put it out there. They produced a stupid. The trust is gone. They cant undo that. 🤯🤮

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  • LeifErickson
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    Is this a joke? Like actually.
  • Insco851
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    I don’t think it’s too bad, have to see it on live to test it. At first I though 3 seconds was too long, but dizzy swing is 2 seconds of unbreakable cc at least because of the knock back animation, and it’s spammable, plus there’s a bug where stacking cc means you can’t break free.

    It’ll definitely change Stamblades into a threat against experienced pvpers and forget about being a glass canon.

    Yea until that goon squad of troll blades time all their incaps right after each other... it’s a quick GG for any mag toon.
  • vesselwiththepestle
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    I guess I'll play NB next patch.
    Edited by vesselwiththepestle on 7 May 2019 21:22
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  • _Ahala_
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    By the way... silence also prevents all ults from going off
  • D0PAMINE
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    Wow.
  • Chelo
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    glavius wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    This is a far more imbalanced change than the defile or stun. At least those could be countered. Zero chance of countering a silence. No healing, shields, skills if you are a mag character. It is pretty ridiculously overpowered.

    Hmm how exactly does silence work?
    Is it possible to CC break out of it or not?

    You can't use any skill for the duration of the silence, basically you can just block or roll dodge until the debuff is gone...
  • Insco851
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    Chelo wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    This is a far more imbalanced change than the defile or stun. At least those could be countered. Zero chance of countering a silence. No healing, shields, skills if you are a mag character. It is pretty ridiculously overpowered.

    Hmm how exactly does silence work?
    Is it possible to CC break out of it or not?

    You can't use any skill for the duration of the silence, basically you can just block or roll dodge until the debuff is gone...

    Not exactly... Stam toons are unaffected minus their ulti and mag buffs.
  • Ariades_swe
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    Insco851 wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    I don’t think it’s too bad, have to see it on live to test it. At first I though 3 seconds was too long, but dizzy swing is 2 seconds of unbreakable cc at least because of the knock back animation, and it’s spammable, plus there’s a bug where stacking cc means you can’t break free.

    It’ll definitely change Stamblades into a threat against experienced pvpers and forget about being a glass canon.

    Yea until that goon squad of troll blades time all their incaps right after each other... it’s a quick GG for any mag toon.

    They dont need to time it. Any group with a single stamblade will be instant death to a mag toon if incap lands. It's basically almost like getting hit by a 3 secs unbreakable stun for a mag char.
    Edited by Ariades_swe on 7 May 2019 21:25
  • Insco851
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    Insco851 wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    I don’t think it’s too bad, have to see it on live to test it. At first I though 3 seconds was too long, but dizzy swing is 2 seconds of unbreakable cc at least because of the knock back animation, and it’s spammable, plus there’s a bug where stacking cc means you can’t break free.

    It’ll definitely change Stamblades into a threat against experienced pvpers and forget about being a glass canon.

    Yea until that goon squad of troll blades time all their incaps right after each other... it’s a quick GG for any mag toon.

    They dont need to time it. Any group with a single stamblade will be instant death to a mag toon.

    Well obviously- but dude thinks 3 seconds isn’t long... and let’s say it’s a face tank healer- 2 incaps on cooldown means it’s over as well.
  • ssewallb14_ESO
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    Might beat the update 20 Sorc thread at this rate.
  • Chelo
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    Koolio wrote: »
    So MNB gonna use Incap again

    Will have too, silence is the strongest debuff against casters in any Game...
  • HankTwo
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    Is this a joke? Like actually.

    '30% healing received reduction from major defile was too strong, so we implemented a 100% healing done, shield strength and damage done reduction against mag chars only.'

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  • StShoot
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    Well....
    lets honour this ultimate with 3 seconds of silence....
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    Jokes aside - 3 seconds is almost like nothing. You wont even notice that since, you will be able to move, roll dodge or cast stamina skills. Even if you will be stunned from stealth by this Ultimate, after immediately breaking free, you will have like 1 - 1,5 seconds of silence left. LAG sometimes is longer than that. Especially if you PvP on EU server...

    Being objective here, this ultimate does imho too little to justify 120 ulti cost. Sure, you can cast it on lower ulti points but then it will do almost nothing. I can't see myself using that skill. In fact I dont since Summerset, because Dawnbreaker is much better option. And lets not forget - it is a single target only. Technically it should be compared more to Berserker Strike (Two-Handed ulti) rather than Dawnbreaker since this is also single target ulti.

    Besides, since global cooldown is a thing, what a NB is supposed to do within those 3 seconds ? 1 light attack + skill ?


    Imho will simply be a dead morph and pretty much every one, whenever stam or mag nb will run Soul Harvest (if they will run this ulti at all).

    3 seconds is all i need on my stamblade to burst someone down, also you can use stamina skills ? You know that there are MAGICA classes in the game right ? ! and even the stamina classes rely on magica abilitys to survive
  • LordTareq
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    I like this change! :)
  • NBrookus
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    I personally want to apologize to Wrobel for ever thinking he was the source of balance stupid on the dev team.
  • josh.lackey_ESO
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    How about we make a "silence" but for Stamina abilities instead of Magicka abilities.
  • StShoot
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    Yamenstein wrote: »
    I don't get it. Don't sorcs have a 12 sec ult that silences all enemies in it ? And deals damage ?

    The only difference is you can't roll out of incap strike and it only affects one person. But also sorc ult affects multiple people and has a higher cost.

    How often is incap strike front bared for the regen to be effective? Wouldn't dawnbreaker be more common on front.

    Well but you can counter the sorc ult by dodging out or smart movement ( it is still realy strong agaisnt magica chars) you cant do that against incap, stamblade is also one of the classest with the highest burst in the game so yeah that will be fun
  • Insco851
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    Dear Mag Toons,

    Zos here... we’d like you to gracefully take your beatings from stamblades now... just lay down fellas. It’s overs. Tell your buddies to hop on over to the Stam side... we are tired of having to nerf sorcs so we gave incap a 3 second silence while maintaining of the only true empowerment left in the game. Yea nice combo no? Bet you can’t survive those La Surprise attacks now mfer....
    Edited by Insco851 on 7 May 2019 21:34
  • Edaphon
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    How about we make a "silence" but for Stamina abilities instead of Magicka abilities.

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