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Incapacitating Strike Silence 5.0.3

Hexys
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Incapacitating Strike: This morph no longer applies Minor Mangle or Stuns the target when cast with 120 or more Ultimate. Instead, it now Silences the target for 3 seconds when cast with 120 or more Ultimate. Additionally, while slotted, it now grants Reave, which restores up to 100 Magicka and Stamina when dealing damage with a Light or Heavy Attack on a target with a negative effect active on them.

Dev comments
After collecting much feedback from forum threads and other outlets, we noted a lot of the feedback on how Mangle's operation was far too niche in terms of engagement due to how the debuff works. While the theme was aimed at helping the Nightblade single out an opponent and put them closer to death's door, we missed the mark in delivery. We want to retain the idea of the Nightblade isolating their target and gaining a few precious seconds of denial on the target's ability to recuperate, but we wanted the defender to at least be able to reposition while those seconds count down, so we have removed the stun in place of a Silence. Additionally, much like Soul Harvest, there is a passive gained for slotting the ability. However, this passive effect makes up a much smaller portion of the ability’s power, since Silences are such powerful disabling tools.

If this goes live I'm gonna put this game behind me lol :D

Normally I would be constructive in feedback, but this time, I don't know what to say. How is this even considered a change? The developer comments are nice, but in this case just don't make up
Edited by Hexys on 7 May 2019 20:05
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  • universal_wrath
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    Ultra lol and big time &$£& from ZOS to stamblades
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  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Who would have guessed that...
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  • jaws343
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    This is a far more imbalanced change than the defile or stun. At least those could be countered. Zero chance of countering a silence. No healing, shields, skills if you are a mag character. It is pretty ridiculously overpowered.
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  • olsborg
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    Yea if this incap change goes to live im gonna take a break until they revert it, if they dont, then im done too.

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  • MalcolM24
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    I thought I had seen it all after the 1s cast time on shields.
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  • universal_wrath
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    I really never expected incap to be grounded, even though I hate NBs. RIP
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  • Ashamray
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    Silence on incap.
    They are mad.
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  • Qwazzy
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    Overpowered.
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  • Sandman929
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    Wow...that's just. ZOS, you're out of ideas aren't you. Between this and a 1 second snare immunity on Race Against Time...unbelievable.
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  • Scarpion
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    Time to quit I think. Soon as I'm incapped as a mag player I'm dead. Worse than a stun, defile or mangle. I don't even know what to say about this change.
    SDk & MSorc.
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  • Deathlord92
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    I haven’t seen the patch notes as I have no access to em but if this is true 😢 sorry I’m getting all emotional here 😢😢 someone does care about nb woo hoo I love this change hype 🔥🔥🔥
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  • JamesDX
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    This is just... wow... and I thought I couldn't lose any more brain cells
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  • ccmedaddy
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    RIP all my magicka toons. What the hell were they thinking lmao
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  • Dracane
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    Okay, they officially lost their minds. This has to be a very bad joke.
    3 seconds silence, which is basically a guaranteed death mark for every caster, as they can't just roll dodge around for 3 seconds. And then 100 stamina and magicka for every light attack when a target has a negative effect on them, which is ALWAYS the case in pvp, always.

    You are out of your mind. Why must a cheap, high damage ability even grant so many debuffs and benefits ? I really don't understand.
    Edited by Dracane on 7 May 2019 19:41
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  • glavius
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    This is a far more imbalanced change than the defile or stun. At least those could be countered. Zero chance of countering a silence. No healing, shields, skills if you are a mag character. It is pretty ridiculously overpowered.

    Hmm how exactly does silence work?
    Is it possible to CC break out of it or not?
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  • Cortimi
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    I REALLY hope this is a real thing, so I can watch all the magsorcs have a complete and total meltdown over finally being killable.
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  • Czekoludek
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    They said they collect feedback from NBs. We said magicka is underperforming, we said we want something different for relentless, we said we need burst heal in our toolkit. They made change that power up most powerful Nb builds currently, they truly *** up pvp magicka chars, they give us a little stronger HoT (still weaker then before nerf). GG ZoS, you are the worst
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  • NateS4
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    Really bad change
    Nerf Nate
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  • jaws343
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    glavius wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    This is a far more imbalanced change than the defile or stun. At least those could be countered. Zero chance of countering a silence. No healing, shields, skills if you are a mag character. It is pretty ridiculously overpowered.

    Hmm how exactly does silence work?
    Is it possible to CC break out of it or not?

    It is not. And since you are silenced, it is also impossible to cleanse.
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  • Firstmep
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    Time to park my mag toons for the next 3-6 months.

    How did we go from incap nerf to incap buff(compared to live).

    They stated in 5.0 that they want to tone it down beacuse its too overloaded.

    So lets buff it with little no counterplay for magicka toons.
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  • VoiDGhOs7
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    LoL, guess theyre on crack or some really bad stuff. SILENCE your traget :expressionless:
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  • Sandman929
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    It says a lot that I can say with no uncertainty that this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen from ZOS.
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  • Koolio
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    So MNB gonna use Incap again
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  • TimeDazzler
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    Remember when they were supposed to nerf magsorcs and they got buffed. Now they are trying to nerf nightblades and they keep getting buffed :D
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  • jaws343
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    Cortimi wrote: »
    I REALLY hope this is a real thing, so I can watch all the magsorcs have a complete and total meltdown over finally being killable.

    This isn't a magsorc issue. This is an issue for every single magicka class.
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  • Derra
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    If you can breakfree out of it - fine.
    If it´s 3s of not doing anything for magica chars it´s one of the most overpowered things that ever made it to the pts.
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  • Glory
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    This can't go live.

    Silence is borderline OP on an expensive ult that you can walk out of.

    Either make silence affected by CC immunity or get rid of this.
    mDK will rise again.
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  • Ashanne
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    THIS IS A JOKE
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  • steussy
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    There's no way this can stand. One of the worst changes I've seen. This is along the same lines as a unblockable or undodgable Rune Cage.
    Edited by steussy on 7 May 2019 19:47
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