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Incapacitating Strike Silence 5.0.3
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Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lol this is gonna go live isn’t it.... I’m a mag main.... this is gonna go live isn’t it....
Stam necro it is then huh...2 -
Cortimi✭✭✭✭✭
As a Stamplar, I will wait with my little bucket to collect the tears.Xbox NA: Soviet Messiah
EP: Cortimi - Imperial StamDK
EP: Melga - Orc StamDen (Dah Bear)
EP: Narileya - Nord StamPlar (Mad cuz Bad)
EP: Corvaera - Bosmer Orc StamSorc (RIP)
PS4 NA (Retired at CP835): Soviet-Messiah:
EP: Cortimi - Imperial StamDK
DC: Melga gra-Antilae - StamDen
AD: Corvaera - Bosmer StamSorcCP is a crutch for people who can’t sustain and want to be "tanky" so they aren’t immediately punished for making mistakes.1 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I don’t think it’s too bad, have to see it on live to test it. At first I though 3 seconds was too long, but dizzy swing is 2 seconds of unbreakable cc at least because of the knock back animation, and it’s spammable, plus there’s a bug where stacking cc means you can’t break free.
It’ll definitely change Stamblades into a threat against experienced pvpers and forget about being a glass canon.Edited by Iskiab on 7 May 2019 21:17Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
WeylandLabs✭✭✭✭✭Nightblade: Incapped that dudes hairline back -
Stam Sorc : That was nice - I understand your class has always been really good.
Zenimax : Hold my beer - 😂4 -
Miswar✭✭✭✭✭Oh my.. why does ZoS keep releasing broken skills when even smallest braincell amount does tell you that is utterly broken!
A skill that has no counterplay... seems like some ZoS developers really struggle to kill anything with this class.
Who's "excellent" idea was this again? *irony*6 -
olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Even if they revert it. They put it out there. They produced a stupid. The trust is gone. They cant undo that. 🤯🤮
PC EU
PvP only14 -
Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don’t think it’s too bad, have to see it on live to test it. At first I though 3 seconds was too long, but dizzy swing is 2 seconds of unbreakable cc at least because of the knock back animation, and it’s spammable, plus there’s a bug where stacking cc means you can’t break free.
It’ll definitely change Stamblades into a threat against experienced pvpers and forget about being a glass canon.
Yea until that goon squad of troll blades time all their incaps right after each other... it’s a quick GG for any mag toon.4 -
vesselwiththepestle✭✭✭✭✭
✭I guess I'll play NB next patch.Edited by vesselwiththepestle on 7 May 2019 21:221000+ CP
PC/EU Ravenwatch Daggerfall Covenant
Give me my wings back!0 -
Chelo✭✭✭✭✭This is a far more imbalanced change than the defile or stun. At least those could be countered. Zero chance of countering a silence. No healing, shields, skills if you are a mag character. It is pretty ridiculously overpowered.
Hmm how exactly does silence work?
Is it possible to CC break out of it or not?
You can't use any skill for the duration of the silence, basically you can just block or roll dodge until the debuff is gone...0 -
Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭This is a far more imbalanced change than the defile or stun. At least those could be countered. Zero chance of countering a silence. No healing, shields, skills if you are a mag character. It is pretty ridiculously overpowered.
Hmm how exactly does silence work?
Is it possible to CC break out of it or not?
You can't use any skill for the duration of the silence, basically you can just block or roll dodge until the debuff is gone...
Not exactly... Stam toons are unaffected minus their ulti and mag buffs.3 -
Ariades_swe✭✭✭✭✭I don’t think it’s too bad, have to see it on live to test it. At first I though 3 seconds was too long, but dizzy swing is 2 seconds of unbreakable cc at least because of the knock back animation, and it’s spammable, plus there’s a bug where stacking cc means you can’t break free.
It’ll definitely change Stamblades into a threat against experienced pvpers and forget about being a glass canon.
Yea until that goon squad of troll blades time all their incaps right after each other... it’s a quick GG for any mag toon.
They dont need to time it. Any group with a single stamblade will be instant death to a mag toon if incap lands. It's basically almost like getting hit by a 3 secs unbreakable stun for a mag char.Edited by Ariades_swe on 7 May 2019 21:252 -
Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ariades_swe wrote: »I don’t think it’s too bad, have to see it on live to test it. At first I though 3 seconds was too long, but dizzy swing is 2 seconds of unbreakable cc at least because of the knock back animation, and it’s spammable, plus there’s a bug where stacking cc means you can’t break free.
It’ll definitely change Stamblades into a threat against experienced pvpers and forget about being a glass canon.
Yea until that goon squad of troll blades time all their incaps right after each other... it’s a quick GG for any mag toon.
They dont need to time it. Any group with a single stamblade will be instant death to a mag toon.
Well obviously- but dude thinks 3 seconds isn’t long... and let’s say it’s a face tank healer- 2 incaps on cooldown means it’s over as well.2 -
HankTwo✭✭✭✭✭LeifErickson wrote: »Is this a joke? Like actually.
'30% healing received reduction from major defile was too strong, so we implemented a 100% healing done, shield strength and damage done reduction against mag chars only.'
PC EU
Stam DK, Magden, Magplar, Stamcro, Hybrid Sorc, Magblade & Mag DK20 -
StShoot✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Well....lets honour this ultimate with 3 seconds of silence....
Jokes aside - 3 seconds is almost like nothing. You wont even notice that since, you will be able to move, roll dodge or cast stamina skills. Even if you will be stunned from stealth by this Ultimate, after immediately breaking free, you will have like 1 - 1,5 seconds of silence left. LAG sometimes is longer than that. Especially if you PvP on EU server...
Being objective here, this ultimate does imho too little to justify 120 ulti cost. Sure, you can cast it on lower ulti points but then it will do almost nothing. I can't see myself using that skill. In fact I dont since Summerset, because Dawnbreaker is much better option. And lets not forget - it is a single target only. Technically it should be compared more to Berserker Strike (Two-Handed ulti) rather than Dawnbreaker since this is also single target ulti.
Besides, since global cooldown is a thing, what a NB is supposed to do within those 3 seconds ? 1 light attack + skill ?
Imho will simply be a dead morph and pretty much every one, whenever stam or mag nb will run Soul Harvest (if they will run this ulti at all).
3 seconds is all i need on my stamblade to burst someone down, also you can use stamina skills ? You know that there are MAGICA classes in the game right ? ! and even the stamina classes rely on magica abilitys to survive4 -
NBrookus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I personally want to apologize to Wrobel for ever thinking he was the source of balance stupid on the dev team.27 -
josh.lackey_ESO✭✭✭✭✭How about we make a "silence" but for Stamina abilities instead of Magicka abilities.4 -
StShoot✭✭✭✭Yamenstein wrote: »I don't get it. Don't sorcs have a 12 sec ult that silences all enemies in it ? And deals damage ?
The only difference is you can't roll out of incap strike and it only affects one person. But also sorc ult affects multiple people and has a higher cost.
How often is incap strike front bared for the regen to be effective? Wouldn't dawnbreaker be more common on front.
Well but you can counter the sorc ult by dodging out or smart movement ( it is still realy strong agaisnt magica chars) you cant do that against incap, stamblade is also one of the classest with the highest burst in the game so yeah that will be fun1 -
Edaphon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »How about we make a "silence" but for Stamina abilities instead of Magicka abilities.
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ariades_swe wrote: »I don’t think it’s too bad, have to see it on live to test it. At first I though 3 seconds was too long, but dizzy swing is 2 seconds of unbreakable cc at least because of the knock back animation, and it’s spammable, plus there’s a bug where stacking cc means you can’t break free.
It’ll definitely change Stamblades into a threat against experienced pvpers and forget about being a glass canon.
Yea until that goon squad of troll blades time all their incaps right after each other... it’s a quick GG for any mag toon.
They dont need to time it. Any group with a single stamblade will be instant death to a mag toon.
Well obviously- but dude thinks 3 seconds isn’t long... and let’s say it’s a face tank healer- 2 incaps on cooldown means it’s over as well.
For everyone saying that 3 seconds isn't long, remember when Rune Cage was nearly unbreakable and the forums were a mess of outrage over its "OPness?"2 -
killingspreeb16_ESO✭✭✭✭They could just add the sustain passive and leave the stun on incap and see how it play.
Anyways like they did change incap minor mangle they can change/revert the silence too so yeah.1 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
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"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU41 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I love how last time Gilliam said on live stream in context of grim focus further changes that they wont give any sustain oriented buffs there because nb do not have issues with sustain and now they give 100 stam+mag per weapon attack for slotting incap
As for the silence like seriously anyone expected something else from devs that dont understand the game they're making to the point they wanted to add cast time on shields ?14
