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Game is unplayable as sorc now
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Zorgon_The_Revenged✭✭✭✭✭They made our shield into a six second damage sponge, to bring it more in line with stam dodge roll and block.
Fair enough. My question now is, where's my breath of life, cloak, or scales?
Stam builds don't just depend on dodge roll to survive. Templars heal to full. Nightblades cloak. And DK's can reflect any projectile. What can sorcs do?
Nothing.
DIE
He agrees with you ...
I however do not. Adapt.
I'd love to see a competitive pop build then.
I cant really recommend a magicka sorc build myself, since I have not touched that playstyle for plenty of time now, however @LegendaryMage is usually quite quick to make his build videos after a new update, and it shouldnt be too long till he releases his magicka sorc one.
Here is a sneak peak of what he can do with it :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yug5EeZmNA
Note: That DK is one of the best duellers EU on one of the strongest duelling classes right now.
Come on now you aren't link pre-DB videos are you? That battle would have been over in the first CC in the current state.
Well, looking at the DK's polymorph (the one you get from the DB "Litany of Blood" achievement) then it isn't pre DarkBrotherhood.0 -
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✭✭wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »Don't need to stack bubbles to play as a magicka sorc. I use Boundless storm more than any of the bubbles. On a destro staff, I have Destructive Reach, Crushing pulse, Boundless Storm, Summon Clannfear(for heals, and pets got a good buff), and Crystal Fragments. I focus on single target damage rather than hide in a bubble. A lot.
In pvp? A pet dies literally dies in two hits.
When you need to recast it there's a cast time so this is not an option for fast-passed pvp imo.
Destructive Reach can be reflected, dodged and does low dmg.
Force Pulse is ok but Crushing Shock is usually better for pvp, especially vs beam Templars.
Both skills are not sorc exclusive skills so you wont get an advantage over other classes by using these skills.
Boundless Storm gives 6s major expedition and major ward (a buff that all classes run if played correctly).
Without shields a sorc is toast in 3 seconds (yes, even with boundless storm) if the opponent is somewhat skilled.
Sure, sorcs can be really tanky with high max magicka and magicka regen, its just hard to kill someone with 6 second shields and lackluster dmg abilities.PC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
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ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@Xsorus Bolt escape might be the best escape, but gap closers are better; it also roots you and runs you to 0 magicka so you die anyway if you're chased. Yes, sometimes it works, but only if your opponent is bad or a templar. The assumption if you're escaping is that you already lost, and your opponent is either better than you or stronger than you, so in the general case you're probably not getting away if you try to use bolt escape.
To make bolt escape work, you basically have to be in a defensible position and then use it before you're attacked pro-actively. An out of position sorc is a dead sorc, as you probably know since I'm sure you have killed sorcs before.
Mines got nerfed hard with the change to charge ignoring them, we could use them to stop people from jumping onto us, now we can't. You can now charge through mines as of DB and last patch it wasn't that way. They're still decent damage, you'll mostly see them used in 1v1 duels and by players who like to run around rocks in group play.
If you're bolt escaping in one direction you deserve to die to gap closers. Let me guess; you're that sorc I see eating crit charge over and over instead of turning and bolt escaping through the target or bolt escaping toward a LOS object. Also running isn't an assumption of losing; it's called kiting or extending and it's a staple of pvp tactics since DAOC. Hell I'll link you a video right now if you want of a stealther in DAOC who would kite via bridges to gain advantage in pvp. Hell I would actively use it on my Valkyrie to gain advantage via healing in DAOC. Or if you want you can watch Sypher or virtually any other 1vx player in this game kite and use terrain to spread out players to gain the upper hand.
In other words kiting is not losing... And you see mines used by virtually ever sorc magicka build in pvp... So I don't know how you think it's only used by duelers.... If you're not using mines then that is something you need to correct.
Actually Mines are far from a must-have skill, especially post DB...DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
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jhharvest✭✭✭I swapped my points from Bastion to Hardy. I don't die as much now. It's still a bit grim, although I think the worst of it isn't the shield change but the poisons.1
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Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sorcs are defnitely in a weak spot right now. My poor babysorc
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The only advantage a sorc has, is the negate - though it is better for group-play.Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
PC - EU.
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Sits-On-Cacti(DC) - Problem?
Fail-With-Tail(AD) - Healing Springs-spammer :<
Tiny Liebs(EP) - Very Tiny. Also heals.
Lieblingsmädchen(DC) - Magplar is love.
The Dominàtrix(AD) - Chains, whip, whip, whip.
Fluffy Furball Kitten(DC) - Kittycat, meow.
Your Face(EP) - People make bad jokes about my name =(
Liebs-With-Trees(AD) - Male argo with a big tail :>
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My title: The Maneater, Destroyer of Maneuvers, Bane of Potatoes, she who devours them, The Black Hole, the humorless, first of her name.2 -
alakmir✭✭✭gamerguy757 wrote: »Sorcs are dead, but they are still possible. I was running the classic Julianos/Kena/torugs build. No longer with the nerf to shields and Surge. You need to be able to sustain big time. Max Magic and Recov are prime now.
Heres my build:
5x Kagrenacs
3x Willpower
3x Spell Power Cure or 3x Transmutation
bad build !Emeeru - AD Sorc
Solo/ duo/ trio with Sabal/Rubeus0 -
CyrusArya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The nerf to shield durations doesn't make the sorcerers insane ranged burst damage any less powerful, it doesn't make the complex skill combos that a sorc can unleash any more limited, and it doesn't hinder the sorcs top tier mobility at all.
It might be weaker than previously, but by no means is it unplayable. There was and is much more to sorcs than just shield stacking, so just a nerf to shields won't render the whole class unplayable. Just play to the strengths you do have, and FYI, shield stacking is still one of them..Edited by CyrusArya on 7 June 2016 22:461 -
Takes-No-Prisoner✭✭✭✭✭
✭I know I will look forward to playing my Sorc in PvP.Been waiting a long time to un-shelf her.
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✭✭✭✭✭caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »Forgive my ignorance... But don't you have a hard counter to melee builds with mines... And arguably the best kiting ability?
The sorc's that quit, were too lazy to regear or try a new approach in how you pvp. Even some high profile sorc's shifted their builds to create successful iterations that deny shield stacking as a strategy.
Best kite ability and best anti-melee with a large area 1vx unlimited imobilize skill and unbreakable negates. I actually expected sorc pop to not die down this patch . Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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- Filthy Casual0 -
s7732425ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭They made our shield into a six second damage sponge, to bring it more in line with stam dodge roll and block.
Fair enough. My question now is, where's my breath of life, cloak, or scales?
Stam builds don't just depend on dodge roll to survive. Templars heal to full. Nightblades cloak. And DK's can reflect any projectile. What can sorcs do?
Nothing.
DIE
He agrees with you ...
I however do not. Adapt.
I'd love to see a competitive pop build then.
I cant really recommend a magicka sorc build myself, since I have not touched that playstyle for plenty of time now, however @LegendaryMage is usually quite quick to make his build videos after a new update, and it shouldnt be too long till he releases his magicka sorc one.
Here is a sneak peak of what he can do with it :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yug5EeZmNA
Note: That DK is one of the best duellers EU on one of the strongest duelling classes right now.
*Yawn*. If I wanted to play a high sustain, low damage Sorc, I would play a high sustain, low damage Sorc. But it's just boring, as can be seen in the vid.1 -
LegendaryMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »They made our shield into a six second damage sponge, to bring it more in line with stam dodge roll and block.
Fair enough. My question now is, where's my breath of life, cloak, or scales?
Stam builds don't just depend on dodge roll to survive. Templars heal to full. Nightblades cloak. And DK's can reflect any projectile. What can sorcs do?
Nothing.
DIE
He agrees with you ...
I however do not. Adapt.
I'd love to see a competitive pop build then.
I cant really recommend a magicka sorc build myself, since I have not touched that playstyle for plenty of time now, however @LegendaryMage is usually quite quick to make his build videos after a new update, and it shouldnt be too long till he releases his magicka sorc one.
Here is a sneak peak of what he can do with it :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yug5EeZmNA
Note: That DK is one of the best duellers EU on one of the strongest duelling classes right now.
*Yawn*. If I wanted to play a high sustain, low damage Sorc, I would play a high sustain, low damage Sorc. But it's just boring, as can be seen in the vid.
I run a very high damage build with almost 20k spell penetration. The DKs are just too tanky with malubeth, heavy armor and major mending. Take away malubeth and that fight would have ended long time ago.
Also, if you fought in open world with 2-3 dks like this on you, not having mines would have been the end of you in no time.Edited by LegendaryMage on 7 June 2016 18:461 -
Diozaels✭✭Theres his trait called "impenetrable". I know as Sorcs you never used it before, but it helps in pvp.2 -
RoamingRiverElk✭✭✭✭✭Game is very much playable for my magicka sorc on Azura (mostly a regen build with destro resto - the only damage set I use is 3 Willpower).Dalris Aalr - Magicka (Stamina) DK | Dalfish - Magicka Sorc | Dal Aalr - Magicka Warden | Dalrish - Mag/Stam NB | Irana Aalr - PvE Templar0 -
LegendaryMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭They made our shield into a six second damage sponge, to bring it more in line with stam dodge roll and block.
Fair enough. My question now is, where's my breath of life, cloak, or scales?
Stam builds don't just depend on dodge roll to survive. Templars heal to full. Nightblades cloak. And DK's can reflect any projectile. What can sorcs do?
Nothing.
DIE
He agrees with you ...
I however do not. Adapt.
I'd love to see a competitive pop build then.
I cant really recommend a magicka sorc build myself, since I have not touched that playstyle for plenty of time now, however @LegendaryMage is usually quite quick to make his build videos after a new update, and it shouldnt be too long till he releases his magicka sorc one.
Here is a sneak peak of what he can do with it :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yug5EeZmNA
Note: That DK is one of the best duellers EU on one of the strongest duelling classes right now.
Come on now you aren't link pre-DB videos are you? That battle would have been over in the first CC in the current state.
I missed this totally, my ability to read quoted stuff diminishes. Sorcs are not totally destroyed if you know what you're doing. The re-roll ones are obviously going to struggle due to not knowing the class and its strengths and weaknesses.Note: That DK is one of the best duellers EU on one of the strongest duelling classes right now.
Best dk bleakrock isle. :P1 -
Serenityx✭✭✭You mean, your class can no longer sustain the highest average DPS in the game (PvP wise afaik) while absorbing 20k+ damage (all critical damage 100% negated)???
1.) Maybe try playing a bit more reserved, time your shields when you feel vulnerable (its not hard to tell when your about to be targeted down, shield after initial damage, just like any other class would time rally which btw is 90% less useful than your shields when being zerged down).
2.) Get a grip and realize what balancing means.
3.) You could just play one of "those" other classes/builds, where DPS and mitigation values are sanely balanced.
4.) Play something else?
5.) Buy an Xbox or Ps4 and enjoy a few more days of a game that is still just about the same for your class as it was last patch.
Edited by Serenityx on 7 June 2016 23:512 -
ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The Sorcs who think they've been nerfed make me smile a bit. But the comments of salty players who thought them to be the strongest class are pure gold.
DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
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Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭LegendaryMage wrote: »s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »They made our shield into a six second damage sponge, to bring it more in line with stam dodge roll and block.
Fair enough. My question now is, where's my breath of life, cloak, or scales?
Stam builds don't just depend on dodge roll to survive. Templars heal to full. Nightblades cloak. And DK's can reflect any projectile. What can sorcs do?
Nothing.
DIE
He agrees with you ...
I however do not. Adapt.
I'd love to see a competitive pop build then.
I cant really recommend a magicka sorc build myself, since I have not touched that playstyle for plenty of time now, however @LegendaryMage is usually quite quick to make his build videos after a new update, and it shouldnt be too long till he releases his magicka sorc one.
Here is a sneak peak of what he can do with it :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yug5EeZmNA
Note: That DK is one of the best duellers EU on one of the strongest duelling classes right now.
*Yawn*. If I wanted to play a high sustain, low damage Sorc, I would play a high sustain, low damage Sorc. But it's just boring, as can be seen in the vid.
I run a very high damage build with almost 20k spell penetration. The DKs are just too tanky with malubeth, heavy armor and major mending. Take away malubeth and that fight would have ended long time ago.
Also, if you fought in open world with 2-3 dks like this on you, not having mines would have been the end of you in no time.
Id love to hear how you managed 20K spell pen0 -
LegendaryMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭LegendaryMage wrote: »s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »They made our shield into a six second damage sponge, to bring it more in line with stam dodge roll and block.
Fair enough. My question now is, where's my breath of life, cloak, or scales?
Stam builds don't just depend on dodge roll to survive. Templars heal to full. Nightblades cloak. And DK's can reflect any projectile. What can sorcs do?
Nothing.
DIE
He agrees with you ...
I however do not. Adapt.
I'd love to see a competitive pop build then.
I cant really recommend a magicka sorc build myself, since I have not touched that playstyle for plenty of time now, however @LegendaryMage is usually quite quick to make his build videos after a new update, and it shouldnt be too long till he releases his magicka sorc one.
Here is a sneak peak of what he can do with it :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yug5EeZmNA
Note: That DK is one of the best duellers EU on one of the strongest duelling classes right now.
*Yawn*. If I wanted to play a high sustain, low damage Sorc, I would play a high sustain, low damage Sorc. But it's just boring, as can be seen in the vid.
I run a very high damage build with almost 20k spell penetration. The DKs are just too tanky with malubeth, heavy armor and major mending. Take away malubeth and that fight would have ended long time ago.
Also, if you fought in open world with 2-3 dks like this on you, not having mines would have been the end of you in no time.
Id love to hear how you managed 20K spell pen
About 19k. Elemental drain debuff + sharpened + 5x light armor + CPs.0 -
bardx86✭✭✭✭✭
✭LegendaryMage wrote: »LegendaryMage wrote: »s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »They made our shield into a six second damage sponge, to bring it more in line with stam dodge roll and block.
Fair enough. My question now is, where's my breath of life, cloak, or scales?
Stam builds don't just depend on dodge roll to survive. Templars heal to full. Nightblades cloak. And DK's can reflect any projectile. What can sorcs do?
Nothing.
DIE
He agrees with you ...
I however do not. Adapt.
I'd love to see a competitive pop build then.
I cant really recommend a magicka sorc build myself, since I have not touched that playstyle for plenty of time now, however @LegendaryMage is usually quite quick to make his build videos after a new update, and it shouldnt be too long till he releases his magicka sorc one.
Here is a sneak peak of what he can do with it :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yug5EeZmNA
Note: That DK is one of the best duellers EU on one of the strongest duelling classes right now.
*Yawn*. If I wanted to play a high sustain, low damage Sorc, I would play a high sustain, low damage Sorc. But it's just boring, as can be seen in the vid.
I run a very high damage build with almost 20k spell penetration. The DKs are just too tanky with malubeth, heavy armor and major mending. Take away malubeth and that fight would have ended long time ago.
Also, if you fought in open world with 2-3 dks like this on you, not having mines would have been the end of you in no time.
Id love to hear how you managed 20K spell pen
About 19k. Elemental drain debuff + sharpened + 5x light armor + CPs.
non dueling how does this work in IC 1vx. I watched the video of you in the duel pretty impressive but that hardly pvp. he didn't use los or any other real world pvp moves.
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✭@Xsorus Bolt escape might be the best escape, but gap closers are better; it also roots you and runs you to 0 magicka so you die anyway if you're chased. Yes, sometimes it works, but only if your opponent is bad or a templar. The assumption if you're escaping is that you already lost, and your opponent is either better than you or stronger than you, so in the general case you're probably not getting away if you try to use bolt escape.
To make bolt escape work, you basically have to be in a defensible position and then use it before you're attacked pro-actively. An out of position sorc is a dead sorc, as you probably know since I'm sure you have killed sorcs before.
Mines got nerfed hard with the change to charge ignoring them, we could use them to stop people from jumping onto us, now we can't. You can now charge through mines as of DB and last patch it wasn't that way. They're still decent damage, you'll mostly see them used in 1v1 duels and by players who like to run around rocks in group play.
If you're bolt escaping in one direction you deserve to die to gap closers. Let me guess; you're that sorc I see eating crit charge over and over instead of turning and bolt escaping through the target or bolt escaping toward a LOS object. Also running isn't an assumption of losing; it's called kiting or extending and it's a staple of pvp tactics since DAOC. Hell I'll link you a video right now if you want of a stealther in DAOC who would kite via bridges to gain advantage in pvp. Hell I would actively use it on my Valkyrie to gain advantage via healing in DAOC. Or if you want you can watch Sypher or virtually any other 1vx player in this game kite and use terrain to spread out players to gain the upper hand.
In other words kiting is not losing... And you see mines used by virtually ever sorc magicka build in pvp... So I don't know how you think it's only used by duelers.... If you're not using mines then that is something you need to correct.
Actually Mines are far from a must-have skill, especially post DB...@Xsorus Bolt escape might be the best escape, but gap closers are better; it also roots you and runs you to 0 magicka so you die anyway if you're chased. Yes, sometimes it works, but only if your opponent is bad or a templar. The assumption if you're escaping is that you already lost, and your opponent is either better than you or stronger than you, so in the general case you're probably not getting away if you try to use bolt escape.
To make bolt escape work, you basically have to be in a defensible position and then use it before you're attacked pro-actively. An out of position sorc is a dead sorc, as you probably know since I'm sure you have killed sorcs before.
Mines got nerfed hard with the change to charge ignoring them, we could use them to stop people from jumping onto us, now we can't. You can now charge through mines as of DB and last patch it wasn't that way. They're still decent damage, you'll mostly see them used in 1v1 duels and by players who like to run around rocks in group play.
If you're bolt escaping in one direction you deserve to die to gap closers. Let me guess; you're that sorc I see eating crit charge over and over instead of turning and bolt escaping through the target or bolt escaping toward a LOS object. Also running isn't an assumption of losing; it's called kiting or extending and it's a staple of pvp tactics since DAOC. Hell I'll link you a video right now if you want of a stealther in DAOC who would kite via bridges to gain advantage in pvp. Hell I would actively use it on my Valkyrie to gain advantage via healing in DAOC. Or if you want you can watch Sypher or virtually any other 1vx player in this game kite and use terrain to spread out players to gain the upper hand.
In other words kiting is not losing... And you see mines used by virtually ever sorc magicka build in pvp... So I don't know how you think it's only used by duelers.... If you're not using mines then that is something you need to correct.
Actually Mines are far from a must-have skill, especially post DB...
I'm beginning to believe that myself1 -
bardx86✭✭✭✭✭
✭caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »Forgive my ignorance... But don't you have a hard counter to melee builds with mines... And arguably the best kiting ability?
The sorc's that quit, were too lazy to regear or try a new approach in how you pvp. Even some high profile sorc's shifted their builds to create successful iterations that deny shield stacking as a strategy.
Best kite ability and best anti-melee with a large area 1vx unlimited imobilize skill and unbreakable negates. I actually expected sorc pop to not die down this patch .
its not possible to kite in 1x1 in this game and win with anyone that has any skill0 -
bardx86✭✭✭✭✭
✭at this point put back 20 sec hardend un nerf streak and do away with dampen magic, balanced
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Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
✭LegendaryMage wrote: »
About 19k. Elemental drain debuff + sharpened + 5x light armor + CPs.
Also Penetrating Magic from the destro passive.
When DB launched, I swapped from Duel Wield back to Destro running a pen build much like what legendarymage is doing. In IvX however I have been running elusive mist in place of harness since I use the Lich set. I also run impen on my crafted pieces but like others have commented, if you are good with your shield application you shouldn't need impen.
Ideally I would like to get into a position where I can run no impen and instead keep defensives on my bar like elusive mist and defensive run (100% uptime to prevent stealth ganks) but I am having a hard time doing this while keeping the important skills: streak, mines, ele drain, etc.
D- Drain, Frags, Curse, Crushing Shock, Hardened Ward*
R- Streak, Def Rune, Healing Ward, Elusive Mist, Entropy*
* had these abilities swapped
Anyway I don't know what my point is here but I guess maybe to promote some discussion. Also wanted to reinforce that yes the build Legendary shows in that video can work in 1vX but with multiple targets you will probably be switching between them a little and the re-application of elemental drain is just another thing to remember. Also, outside of duels I think you have to front bar a shield in 1vX which is why I recently moved it to my destro bar. When out numbered, even in 1v2 scenarios, it seemed like the incoming dmg was just too much for me to have an opportunity to stay on my destro bar more than a second.
Edited by Makkir on 8 June 2016 13:570 -
LegendaryMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭LegendaryMage wrote: »LegendaryMage wrote: »s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »They made our shield into a six second damage sponge, to bring it more in line with stam dodge roll and block.
Fair enough. My question now is, where's my breath of life, cloak, or scales?
Stam builds don't just depend on dodge roll to survive. Templars heal to full. Nightblades cloak. And DK's can reflect any projectile. What can sorcs do?
Nothing.
DIE
He agrees with you ...
I however do not. Adapt.
I'd love to see a competitive pop build then.
I cant really recommend a magicka sorc build myself, since I have not touched that playstyle for plenty of time now, however @LegendaryMage is usually quite quick to make his build videos after a new update, and it shouldnt be too long till he releases his magicka sorc one.
Here is a sneak peak of what he can do with it :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yug5EeZmNA
Note: That DK is one of the best duellers EU on one of the strongest duelling classes right now.
*Yawn*. If I wanted to play a high sustain, low damage Sorc, I would play a high sustain, low damage Sorc. But it's just boring, as can be seen in the vid.
I run a very high damage build with almost 20k spell penetration. The DKs are just too tanky with malubeth, heavy armor and major mending. Take away malubeth and that fight would have ended long time ago.
Also, if you fought in open world with 2-3 dks like this on you, not having mines would have been the end of you in no time.
Id love to hear how you managed 20K spell pen
About 19k. Elemental drain debuff + sharpened + 5x light armor + CPs.
non dueling how does this work in IC 1vx. I watched the video of you in the duel pretty impressive but that hardly pvp. he didn't use los or any other real world pvp moves.
IC PVP from a solo perspective;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI5eG02UIv8
IC PVP again from a solo perspective;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rc2jWCcSus
IC PVP from a medium sized group perspective with my friend @Force-Siphon from the NA server;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlcQ_WEjWk4
Duels;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlqWmTr9V4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVx3jNXxtaw
It's pretty much the same build except now shields last less but since you're recasting them fast anyway, it's not that much of a problem, at least for me.2 -
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✭i cant break myself away from the Lich set since I have been using it, the sustain proc is just so OP0 -
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✭✭✭Septimus_Magna wrote: »In pvp? A pet dies literally dies in two hits.
When you need to recast it there's a cast time so this is not an option for fast-passed pvp imo.
Destructive Reach can be reflected, dodged and does low dmg.
Force Pulse is ok but Crushing Shock is usually better for pvp, especially vs beam Templars.
Both skills are not sorc exclusive skills so you wont get an advantage over other classes by using these skills.
Boundless Storm gives 6s major expedition and major ward (a buff that all classes run if played correctly).
Without shields a sorc is toast in 3 seconds (yes, even with boundless storm) if the opponent is somewhat skilled.
Sure, sorcs can be really tanky with high max magicka and magicka regen, its just hard to kill someone with 6 second shields and lackluster dmg abilities.
Some of my skills aren't the best, but Shock reach stuns an enemy, which helps a little. And pets got a good buff. In pvp, they cannot take a hit more than 40% of their health, which is pretty damn nice.For the love of Kyne, buff sorc. PC NACP 2100+Star-Sïnger - Khajiit Magicka Sorc - EP Grand Overlord - Flawless Conqueror vMA/vBRP/vDSA no death/vHel Ra HM/vAA HM/vSO HM/vMoL HM/vHoF HM/vAS +2/vCR+3/vSS HMs/vKA HMs/vVH/vRG Oax HM/vDSR0 -
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✭gamerguy757 wrote: »Sorcs are dead, but they are still possible. I was running the classic Julianos/Kena/torugs build. No longer with the nerf to shields and Surge. You need to be able to sustain big time. Max Magic and Recov are prime now.
Heres my build:
5x Kagrenacs
3x Willpower
3x Spell Power Cure or 3x Transmutation
5pc Lich, 4pc Magnus, 3pc Willpower
I agree with your sustain comments0 -
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✭Not all but it seems a majority of the Sorcs are useless threads boil down to this fact;
Sorcs are going to take health damage now.
Which in short means if a sorc chooses to run 5 - 7 light and stack every once of resource into magica they are going to not enjoy the experience.
The strength of our shields has not been affected in the slightest builds will have to be adjusted but Sorcs are far from worthless in PVP or PVE.
If you sheveled your Sorc in silent or loud protest to the adjustment to shields, that is completely cool but if your running around talking about how worthless and dead the Sorc class is your completely wrong.Edited by acw37162 on 9 June 2016 06:152 -
AllPlayAndNoWork✭✭✭✭✭They made our shield into a six second damage sponge, to bring it more in line with stam dodge roll and block.
Fair enough. My question now is, where's my breath of life, cloak, or scales?
Stam builds don't just depend on dodge roll to survive. Templars heal to full. Nightblades cloak. And DK's can reflect any projectile. What can sorcs do?
Nothing.
I play a NB and want to know where my "streak" is.......2