Are you considering or already canceling your subscription post patch?

HandofBane

I am seriously considering canceling my subscription

On Thursday the new EU4 expansion releases. I am giving until then for some better communication on the fixes for nightblades, along with some actual visible effort to get them fixed as opposed to the "well we know things don't work, pay us for another 1-2 months and we will get around to it" *** we got before the holiday weekend. Failing to get even that is my breaking point. I can deal with most of the other problems I have with the game, but being unable to progress past v3 because half my abilities don't work properly, if they work at all, is unacceptable.

FrauPerchta

I will keep my subscription but am unhappy with the direction of Zenimax

I always give a new MMO a minimum of 3 months to have the game running smooth enough that the bugs don't annoy me to the point I have to log off to take a break for awhile. The Devs instead of making the game smoother to play are taking ESO in the opposite direction. Have already had three friends quit in frustration.

Yankee

I will keep my subscription

Since they reverted VR difficulty that this last patch screwed up back to something I can solo, I will continue to work my way through VR6 and see what the future holds.

The game has been very stable on my computer since beta, and apart from occassional lag spikes in the cities, works well in PVE on ultra settings. No crashes, log in problems, etc (knock on wood).

I have had very few problems with quests up to now, once in a while just have to relog to get a quest object to work.

Also am in no hurry to get to VR12. Just going to poke along a couple hours a night and see if the game survives.

It is decent entertainment for a measly $15 a month, so I hope it does.

NerfEverything

I have already canceled my subscription

Cancelled my sub because of the templar nerfs, DK buffs, and NB getting ignored. Zen made it clear that they either don't intend to keep the classes balanced, or they are incompetent. Plus, the response time on game-breaking bugs is horrible. Infinite batswarm took them forever to fix. Caltrops has been weeks and still not fixed.

This game is pretty much a big circle-jerk of flavor-of-the-month-OP-class abusing the exploit of the week.

Ruddertail

I will keep my subscription

NerfEverything wrote: »

This game is pretty much a big circle-jerk of flavor-of-the-month-OP-class abusing the exploit of the week.

That's every single MMORPG I've ever played, it's nigh impossible to balance all the classes. WoW still hasn't succeeded and it's never been in such a state either.

Apsalon

I will keep my subscription

Have no plan on stopping to play. I've seen worse situations in games. Maybe i'm just hardened. Does anyone remember the first months of Aion? Botistan attacks.

Voemel

I have already canceled my subscription

I have cancelled my sub but still have many days remaining. On principle alone, I will not log into the game again. This is one of the biggest fiasco's for a launch that I have seen. One misstep after another. Horrible does not begin to describe this game.

Nox_Aeterna

I am seriously considering canceling my subscription

NerfEverything wrote: »

Cancelled my sub because of the templar nerfs, DK buffs, and NB getting ignored. Zen made it clear that they either don't intend to keep the classes balanced, or they are incompetent. Plus, the response time on game-breaking bugs is horrible. Infinite batswarm took them forever to fix. Caltrops has been weeks and still not fixed.

This game is pretty much a big circle-jerk of flavor-of-the-month-OP-class abusing the exploit of the week.

We will need to change the name here.

In ESO it is not flavour of the month , by the look of how this is going , soon it will be flavour of half an year considering how DK were and are currently are on top.

Ruddertail wrote: »

NerfEverything wrote: »

This game is pretty much a big circle-jerk of flavor-of-the-month-OP-class abusing the exploit of the week.

That's every single MMORPG I've ever played, it's nigh impossible to balance all the classes. WoW still hasn't succeeded and it's never been in such a state either.

Mate i played WoW for a few months , to compare its balance to this game is offensive.

I never played a MMO with such horrible balance before.

Ruddertail

I will keep my subscription

Apsalon wrote: »

Have no plan on stopping to play. I've seen worse situations in games. Maybe i'm just hardened. Does anyone remember the first months of Aion? Botistan attacks.

Yeah, when I think about I've never seen a smooth MMORPG launch, actually.

Ravinsild

I have already canceled my subscription

I canceled as soon as they changed the way devour works so that it gimped the Werewolf so hard, not only do you only get at max 40 seconds of bad-ass beast time, but they did not fix all the other issues meaning that if you happen to get a gimped pounce you just wasted most of your transformation time for nothing.

At least before you could devour your bar back up to full again so these bugs weren't SO bad because you could still milk time as long as you could eat humanoids or beasts nearby. Now devour gives you almost no time back, takes forever to eat and has an internal cooldown so if you murder 8 people you can only eat one for time and have to wait a long time to use it again.

So yeah, I've been unsubscribed since that patch.

Takeda_Shingen

I am seriously considering canceling my subscription

steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »

By cancel I mean just let it expire unless I like what I see. I have the 6 month one so there is time. Sadly I see neither the will nor the ability to recognise the serious issues or address them.

Same, I believe it is the maximum period to wait to see if a game will start fixing and the developers will start listening. After this period if things will not change I believe that the game will start loosing unsatisfied players.

steveb16_ESO46

I am seriously considering canceling my subscription

Like i said in another post I feel the 'vision' for the game comes from 10 years ago. I don't think there's a big enough demand for hardcore grinding any more. What grabs me about ESO is the story and the atmosphere plus the chance for some epic PvP.

Suddenly asking me to grind slowly through rehashed stories that make no sense feels like a 'WTF?' bait and switch.

Maybe if the combat system was a lot better I'd feel different. But with the limited options, the erratic weapon swapping, the latency and the lag it is no more than 'adequate'.

Although ArcheAge story-wise is nowhere near as good as ESO what it does do right is combat. Increasing options as you level up, skills that discharge instantly and 4 bars that swap instantly. If only ESO had that level of responsiveness.

dennissomb16_ESO

I am seriously considering canceling my subscription

Probably one of the biggest stumbling blocks for me is the difficulty of simple grouping with guildies. What I mean by this is the design of so much phasing through every step of quests. A few weeks back I was a little bored in VR6 and wanted to go help a guild mate in VR1. Essentially I could not. because I had completed the zone we were constantly out of phase. Add in the design where some solo quests end up with a non solable final boss and you can not ask friends to help because if they are not on the exact same stage they can not join in the boss fight. Extremely frustrating for an MMO

A lot of the bug issues will get sorted, servers will get more stable etc. Class balance has never meant anything to me since it really doesn't exist. I am seriously concerned with their inability to deal with the massive amount of bots/hackers. I realize being in VR it effects me less(for now) but playing an alt can be brutal at times because of this

Grao

I will keep my subscription but am unhappy with the direction of Zenimax

I am keeping the subscription up because despite all the problems I do enjoy ESO. Still, I growing tired of friends giving up on the game because of ridiculous bugs and serious balancing issues.

I understand ZoS is new at this and I am trying to be patient, see if they will learn how to manage an MMO, but their priorities are seriously messed up. Focusing on future content before fixing base class issues, 'nerfing' abilities before fixing bugs that compromise the same skill tree... Just very messy...

Cogo

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

NerfEverything wrote: »

Cancelled my sub because of the templar nerfs, DK buffs, and NB getting ignored. Zen made it clear that they either don't intend to keep the classes balanced, or they are incompetent. Plus, the response time on game-breaking bugs is horrible. Infinite batswarm took them forever to fix. Caltrops has been weeks and still not fixed.

This game is pretty much a big circle-jerk of flavor-of-the-month-OP-class abusing the exploit of the week.

We will need to change the name here.

In ESO it is not flavour of the month , by the look of how this is going , soon it will be flavour of half an year considering how DK were and are currently are on top.

Ruddertail wrote: »

NerfEverything wrote: »

This game is pretty much a big circle-jerk of flavor-of-the-month-OP-class abusing the exploit of the week.

That's every single MMORPG I've ever played, it's nigh impossible to balance all the classes. WoW still hasn't succeeded and it's never been in such a state either.

Mate i played WoW for a few months , to compare its balance to this game is offensive.

I never played a MMO with such horrible balance before.

Are you SERIOUS?!?!?

You base your claim its "offensive" to compare a MMO in any form (WoW this time, but applies to every MMO) by playing an MMO for a few MONTHS?!?!?

Dude, first of all, WoW have never had balance between their classes. Not that they havn't tried and keep trying but they dont get it right.

The first YEARS of wow, Rogues where 10 times "better" then any class in PvP.
Then WoW made warriors able to not be perma stunned and able to kill the Rogue. This was the first time where most PvPers started to discuss actual skill.....because the rogue didn't need any gear, skills, brains or whatever. 2 buttons and a dagger, then that class could perma stun anyway and win a pvp fight.

There is still constant changes is classes in WoW just because of the balance between for BOTH PvP and PvE.

Go to a blizzard forum and read any post about balancing.

Everyone is of course entitled to their opinion, but where your comment came from was just wrong.

GrafDresche

I will keep my subscription

Doesn't look too bad for Zenimax, considering that the overwhelming majority of (any) forum user is here because they, like me, like to voice some sort of more or less constructive criticism. I just hope Zenimax will keep it up and make this an amazing game.

Mikalaus

I will keep my subscription

I have not even considered canceling my subscription. Like many have already said, there is only so many errors any amount of testing pre-release can find. They have to balance getting content out when people want it, because if its not soon enough then people will complain they are going to quit because the latest patch didn't release when they said it would release. Or you run into the opposite, which is this, people complaining because of bugs and fixes they didn't find pre-release.

Relax, its a new game, they're fixing things as they go. Rarely in life is everything perfect and the way you want it.

DireKit

I will keep my subscription

These forums are hilarious, they're like the most over-reactionary and doom obsessed We've ever seen in any MMO ever. And We played Champions Online!

Mikalaus wrote: »

I have not even considered canceling my subscription. Like many have already said, there is only so many errors any amount of testing pre-release can find. They have to balance getting content out when people want it, because if its not soon enough then people will complain they are going to quit because the latest patch didn't release when they said it would release. Or you run into the opposite, which is this, people complaining because of bugs and fixes they didn't find pre-release.

Relax, its a new game, they're fixing things as they go. Rarely in life is everything perfect and the way you want it.

Dis.

Dis, basically. It's a new game, take a chill pill and stop taking yourself so seriously. You know nothing matters in the end anyway? WE'RE ALL DOOMED. ALL RESIGNED TO THE ULTIMATE FATE OF NON-EXISTENCE! Poof! All of reality will unravel one day and everything that is, will not be. Nothing you or anyone else has ever done or will ever do will matter, it will be all for nothing!

Unless of course you find a way to enjoy the crazy coincidence and celebrate the fact that you have a chance to be here, right now, existing in this moment. And you actually stop taking things that don't matter so seriously and enjoying the ride.

OR YOU COULD KEEP RAGING, THAT'S FUNNY TOO.

Cogo

Ravinsild wrote: »

I canceled as soon as they changed the way devour works so that it gimped the Werewolf so hard, not only do you only get at max 40 seconds of bad-ass beast time, but they did not fix all the other issues meaning that if you happen to get a gimped pounce you just wasted most of your transformation time for nothing.

At least before you could devour your bar back up to full again so these bugs weren't SO bad because you could still milk time as long as you could eat humanoids or beasts nearby. Now devour gives you almost no time back, takes forever to eat and has an internal cooldown so if you murder 8 people you can only eat one for time and have to wait a long time to use it again.

So yeah, I've been unsubscribed since that patch.

*giggle*. Another one who do not want to play a HUGE game as ESO because of ONE skill.

Sure, its a free world. Do what you want. But I fail to understand the reason.
ESO is a skill in game AND skill of the player MMO. There are so many skills players can choose that I've lost count. And there will be even more skills to choose from.

What on earth are you doing in an MMO that is skill based, where ANYONE knows each skill has the possibility to to be changed because of balancing or evolving the game. And foremost to FIX skills that does not work as intended.

Maybe this is your first MMO? There hasnt been a single MMO that doesnt need to fix Classes/skills what not because there is a bug, not working like they should or ended up being overpowered.

I am must be missing something.

PayneTK

I have already canceled my subscription

I canceled it yesterday.

Because of unresponsive Biting Jabs and Shield Bash overnerf. They made my Templar unplayable. I actually had fun with the Templar before the nerf. Now it just feels depressing and i wont pay my hard earned money for feeling depressed.

Cogo

PayneTK wrote: »

I canceled it yesterday.

Because of unresponsive Biting Jabs and Shield Bash overnerf. They made my Templar unplayable. I actually had fun with the Templar before the nerf. Now it just feels depressing and i wont pay my hard earned money for feeling depressed.

And we have ANOTHER one!!! Ding ding ding!

Stop playing a game because of ONE skill and fixing another?

I am way to clueless about the choice to even consider playing a skill base game and then quit because of 1 skill.

Would you mind enlighten me sir in your thinking about buying a SKILL based game, then quit when they change or fix ONE skill. Or in your case, two?

Khandi

I have already canceled my subscription

wow... 59% of the voters have canceled or have serious concerns and the game. That really kinda sucks.

p.hurst1b16_ESO

I will keep my subscription

I have been waiting for a new subbed MMO since Rift went F2P.

I was involved in WoW beta and launch and remember very clearly the total mess the game was in at launch, I think some old WoW players forget what it was really like at the beginning, before the class balancing settled down a bit and battlegrounds were introduced.

ESO has been a much smoother launch and is in a better state than most western MMO's are in the first 6 months.

Cogo

Lodestar wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Where is the button for "I am very happy with the game and how Zenimax handled the HUGE patch, and I very happy subscription to ESO"

Not trying to be rude, but did you choose only negative options in your poll, so you can say that you did a poll and everyone was considering canceling?

That would be, I am keeping my sub. What other options is there supposed to be? If your keeping your sub, you must be happy with the game.

Ok, fair enough, but if I am happy with the game because I keep my sub.
Why is there not just 2 options. I keep my sub = I am happy or I an canceling = I am unhappy?

robacooperb16_ESO

I will keep my subscription

Nope - don't need my hand held, understand that games take work, and I don't have tantrums because I don't have a childish need for instant gratification. If the patch breaks something I'll just play around it and enjoy everything else - if I can't log in or play for a day or three oh well there are other things to do.

Syndy

I will keep my subscription

I will keep my sub, and this is coming from someone who did not get to play all weekend due to the 301 error.

The game is a month old, of course there are bugs. They will get fixed, have patience.

Cogo

Thechemicals wrote: »

Im keeping my sub, ive no reason to quit. However, i can see why others quit: the learning curve for this game is very high. You have to have some technical understanding to keep the game stable and performance decent and you have to be able to download and implement addons. You would be surprised how many people dont know how to install an addon or just simply avoid it thinking its some sort of cheat.

The learning curve isn't just very high. You learn stuff every day. That's one HUGE reason for the game and one of the main reasons I am playing ESO.

You are NEVER 100% experienced in all things this game has to offer. And that is EXACTLY what ESO is about and why it kicks the backside out of any MMO out there.

However! To be fair. ESO is a own Type of MMO. Just like WoW is another type of MMO. In WoW, you know pretty much everything after... a month? Or is that to long? And there are people who wants that. Sure.

ESO is not WoW and sir, that is one of the main reasons a lot of the happy players are enjoying ESO so much!

You have to have some technical understanding to keep the game stable and performance decent and you have to be able to download and implement addons.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! are you serious or just making fun out of people?

This comment of yours is simply bollox. You do not need a single addon to play the game. Works perfectly just the way it is. ESO supports the use of Addons for those who wants them, thats all.

Technical skills to keep the game stable? What on earth are you talking about?

Is keeping your graphic card drivers updated and click the start game button to technical?

You must be joking.

lioslinn

I will keep my subscription

3 of the 4 options are negative, hmm.. Bias perhaps?

Milktray

I will keep my subscription but am unhappy with the direction of Zenimax

Getting more and more unhappy with Zen when i log in and watch a group of bots/hacks go past 'playing' the damn game.

Ravinsild

I have already canceled my subscription

Cogo wrote: »

Ravinsild wrote: »

I canceled as soon as they changed the way devour works so that it gimped the Werewolf so hard, not only do you only get at max 40 seconds of bad-ass beast time, but they did not fix all the other issues meaning that if you happen to get a gimped pounce you just wasted most of your transformation time for nothing.

At least before you could devour your bar back up to full again so these bugs weren't SO bad because you could still milk time as long as you could eat humanoids or beasts nearby. Now devour gives you almost no time back, takes forever to eat and has an internal cooldown so if you murder 8 people you can only eat one for time and have to wait a long time to use it again.

So yeah, I've been unsubscribed since that patch.

*giggle*. Another one who do not want to play a HUGE game as ESO because of ONE skill.

Sure, its a free world. Do what you want. But I fail to understand the reason.
ESO is a skill in game AND skill of the player MMO. There are so many skills players can choose that I've lost count. And there will be even more skills to choose from.

What on earth are you doing in an MMO that is skill based, where ANYONE knows each skill has the possibility to to be changed because of balancing or evolving the game. And foremost to FIX skills that does not work as intended.

Maybe this is your first MMO? There hasnt been a single MMO that doesnt need to fix Classes/skills what not because there is a bug, not working like they should or ended up being overpowered.

I am must be missing something.

Yeah, you're missing a lot.

I've run into bugs that altogether halted progress so hard I had to roll an alt waiting for the issues to be fixed. I've played classes so broken they can barely cripple along toward success.

You talk about this myriad of skills at your finger tips but don't realize that most of them are utter garbage. Heavy Armor skill line is garbage. The entire Dawn's Wrath and half of the Aedric Spear line for Templar are Garbage. Most of the Siphoning skills and Shadow Skills for Nightblades are either broken in more than one way, or simply aren't used because they're worthless.

Stamina based weapon builds don't work. Get Light Armor and Full Magicka build or go home.

So it wasn't just one skill. It was just one skill that happened to be the final straw that broke the camel's back.

Unresponsive weapon swapping, bots swarming everywhere in droves gathering all low level resources like locust leaving nothing left behind. Entirely worthless avenues in game like Fishing which is quite literally pointless. No end-game content to speak of except speed runs for "difficult" content. Basically they offer ONE aspect of end-game like WoW has and they're the equivalent of "Challenge modes". We have, I guess, "Heroic" dungeons in the form of veteran rank dungeons, however the rewards for completeing them are trash. There is no incentive.

The veteran ranks are a tedious grind and only very few certain builds are viable. You cannot "play the way you want" at this point. You must have a very standard cookie cutter build out of like 3 proven to work or you are making the game infinitely more difficult for yourself. Of course stubborn people will do it "just to prove a point" but the concept of "Play the way you want" is based around every build being equally effective at everything. All tanks should tank equally. All healers should heal equally. All DPS should DPS equally. It's just how do you want to look doing it. Giant two-handed sword? Dual-wielding Axes? Fiery Destruction staff? Heavy Armor? Light Armor? Do whatever, it should all work. However the problem is that it doesn't work this way.

This game has more problems than it's worth and the few moments of fun and actual joy you can find, like going on 45 minute long Werewolf rampages slaughtering camps of bandits were its only saving grace and they ruined that too. They didn't even bother fixing all the broken with the skill line. They nerfed the one bit that made it fun and left it a steaming, worthless pile of trash.

Just like this game. Trash.

Edit: Oh yeah and don't get me started on PvP...

Would you like me to list all the issues with skills there too among other things?