Should add-ons be allowed?

david271749

Please state why you voted yes or no below.

WebBull

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Yes, as they are now, on an extremely limited basis.

Blackwidow

No. They give players too many advantages/disadvantages.

There should not be a need for addons.

Lazy lazy ZOS.

Also, some addons do blatantly let players cheat.

Blackwolfe5

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Yes. I find that they can greatly enhance the playing experience by eliminating game annoyances for example. I do not use addons to cheat. ZOS cannot think of EVERYTHING.

Furthermore, the two options sound kind of dumb. "They're part of what makes this game great."/"They give players too many advantages/disadvantages" do not neccesarily reflect what a person who voted actually thinks. Simple yes/no options would be far better.

Reignskream

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Blackwidow wrote: »

There should not be a need for addons.

Lazy lazy ZOS.

Also, some addons do blatantly let players cheat.

Really, this discussion? If that's how you feel, great! But i concur. Addon's are a part of MMO's, and that's all I have to say about that.

Rocksteady

I vote indifference as long as they're limited a little so people can't get too crazy with them. One example being in WoW, most people expect you to have certain addons to do your job. A customizable UI should be where it ends in my opinion but I don't bother with them either way.

Xilc

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Blackwidow wrote: »

There should not be a need for addons.

Lazy lazy ZOS.

Also, some addons do blatantly let players cheat.

Oh brother, I knew it wouldn't be long before we had one of these doomsday "addons are the devil" players. They make their way into every game (they beat Bioware in SWTOR, then it went free to play, no surprise there). Addons don't pose a problem, and if they really do "allow players to blatantly cheat" then ZSO will ban them, simple as that.

It's really not fair to remove addons, a critical feature implemented into the game just because you think they shouldn't have it. It makes the game customizable and more user friendly.

cabbageub17_ESO

Some should. Some shouldn't.

Elvent

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Of course they should be allowed since Zenimax themselves can't add standard MMORPG features we're all used too.

I'm not a fan of the stripped barebones feel that other people like here but that's fine they enjoy that type of game play, it's nice to have OPTIONS....

Blackwidow

No. They give players too many advantages/disadvantages.

Reignskream wrote: »

Really, this discussion? If that's how you feel, great! But i concur.

That means you agree.

Addon's are a part of MMO's, and that's all I have to say about that.

I agree.

That does not mean they should all be allowed. Some are cheats.

Xilc

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Elvent wrote: »

Of course they should be allowed since Zenimax themselves can't add standard MMORPG features we're all used too.

Everyone has different preferences as to how they like the game set up (i.e: action bars, health bars, nameplates etc). I personally think the game is communist, and much harder to play without any form of fluid customization like addons.

Arsenic_Touch

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Of course they should be allowed. It frees up the developers from having to develop the UI and it's functions and allows players a bit of customization. I'd prefer it if they lifted the API restrictions they put in place after one of the betas though.

stabbykitteh

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

This isn't directed at OP or anyone in particular but, I've never understood the superiority complex some have because they won't / don't use mods of any kind. It exists in the SP games as well. If you choose not to, great. If you choose to, great. ES games have been designed to be modded for a long time now. It's a sort of tradition, and it's functionality added by the devs so people can personalize their games (and show the devs what features might be popular in the future).

Also, I'm really not sure what advantage something like Khajiit Speak gives me over other players.

Sunrock

No. They give players too many advantages/disadvantages.

The main reason way having add-ons is a bad idea is that the quality of the game performance will be less. With that I mean add-ons usually create more bugs, more lag and what not for the user. Having a high quality UI with allot of options for personal prefrences like they did for SWTOR is allot better way to ensure the quality of the game experience for every one is high quality.

And yes so add-ons layers too many advantages. Like those that show on the map where every skyshard and lorebook is. Just to mention two.

Blackwidow

No. They give players too many advantages/disadvantages.

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

Of course they should be allowed. It frees up the developers from having to develop the UI and it's functions and allows players a bit of customization. I'd prefer it if they lifted the API restrictions they put in place after one of the betas though.

ROFLMAO!

Yes, I agree. ZOS is lazy.

If single players can make mods for the game, I'm sure ZOS' army of programmers handle the little work it would take to add these simple user friendly features.

Loco_Mofo

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

With the bare minimum UI we have here, I say absol-ducking-lutely!

notepad

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Yes, but some functions may need to be limited. Anything that allows exploting, botting/automation, flying, walking through walls or anything along those lines should be curtailed.

Xilc

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Blackwidow wrote: »

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

Of course they should be allowed. It frees up the developers from having to develop the UI and it's functions and allows players a bit of customization. I'd prefer it if they lifted the API restrictions they put in place after one of the betas though.

ROFLMAO!

Yes, I agree. ZOS is lazy.

If single players can make mods for the game, I'm sure ZOS' army of programmers handle the little work it would take to add these simple user friendly features.

Lol, they don't have an "army of programmers" dude. They're a small gaming company, they don't have 200 programmers working day in and day out on one thing (say addon compatibility and universality). It's not easy creating an entire online game.

Nox_Aeterna

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Yeap , addons make a lot of things much easier to me.

In the end , there are TONS of addons , each of us pick and use different ones that make the game better to US , which could not be the same to others, so chances are zen would not create them.

And nah , zen got many programmers , but by far they dont have a higher number there than there are people working on different addons.

Blackwidow

No. They give players too many advantages/disadvantages.

Xilc wrote: »

Lol, they don't have an "army of programmers" dude. They're a small gaming company, they don't have 200 programmers working day in and day out on one thing (say addon compatibility and universality). It's not easy creating an entire online game.

They have a MMO. If they don't have the programmers to make simple things that single players can do at home, we are in big trouble.

magic_is_might

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Er how do add-ons let people cheat...? Addons are not mods. I think people don't know this difference.

They let you customize settings and UI. They don't give people advantages. They can add features that developers neglected (ie search bar in guild store). If being able to move around and see your healthbar in a different spot on your screen or let you customize keybindings or add a search function is "cheating", then you don't know what cheating is.

If it alters gameplay itself, then yes. That is modding and cheating. Add-ons are not.

Sunrock wrote: »

The main reason way having add-ons is a bad idea is that the quality of the game performance will be less. With that I mean add-ons usually create more bugs, more lag and what not for the user. Having a high quality UI with allot of options for personal prefrences like they did for SWTOR is allot better way to ensure the quality of the game experience for every one is high quality.

That is a personal problem. Just because you experience lag with an add-on, it does not mean others can't use the add-on.

Blackwidow

No. They give players too many advantages/disadvantages.

magic_is_might wrote: »

Er how do add-ons let people cheat...? Addons are not mods. I think people don't know this difference.

Read the thread. There are already examples listed.

Addons, BTW are mods.

Blackwolfe5

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

notepad wrote: »

Yes, but some functions may need to be limited. Anything that allows exploting, botting/automation, flying, walking through walls or anything along those lines should be curtailed.

Basically, addons are fine the way they are considering they can not be used to bot/fly/"wallhack"/teleport.

RedTalon

No. They give players too many advantages/disadvantages.

Why are they needed anyhow?

magic_is_might

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Blackwidow wrote: »

magic_is_might wrote: »

Er how do add-ons let people cheat...? Addons are not mods. I think people don't know this difference.

Read the thread. There are already examples listed.

Addons, BTW are mods.

Mods modify game play. Hence the name. Add-ons do not. If an add-on does modify gameplay, then yes, it should be banned. I get the distinction (or lack thereof) you're trying to make, but they are not the same thing.

If you're talking about minimaps and being able to find lorebooks and skyshards with an in-game map - you can easily find that online. If an addon teleports you to a skyshard or whatever, then that's a mod.

EDIT: I read the thread. I see zero examples listed on how add-ons let players cheat.

Arsenic_Touch

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Blackwolfe5 wrote: »

Basically, addons are fine the way they are considering they can not be used to bot/fly/"wallhack"/teleport.

But the sky is falling. Clearly the restricted API is what's responsible for the current infestation of bots!

Still amazes me how people confused addons with mods and think that addons have anything to do with the bots. Mind boggling.

Blackwidow

No. They give players too many advantages/disadvantages.

magic_is_might wrote: »

Mods modify game play. Hence the name. Add-ons do not.

Wow.

Addons don't modify the game?

I don't even know what to say.....

Arsenic_Touch

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Blackwidow wrote: »

magic_is_might wrote: »

Mods modify game play. Hence the name. Add-ons do not.

Wow.

Addons don't modify the game?

I don't even know what to say.....

Mods alter the game in ways that were not intended.
Addons unlock API functions that are already present in the game.
There's a huge difference, they are not the same.

magic_is_might

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Blackwidow wrote: »

magic_is_might wrote: »

Mods modify game play. Hence the name. Add-ons do not.

Wow.

Addons don't modify the game?

I don't even know what to say.....

And yet you won't acknowledge the difference or provide examples how it modifies gameplay.

If being able to customize my UI is considered modding and hacking and giving me an unfair advantage, then wow, I don't know what to say.

Ryskim

No. They give players too many advantages/disadvantages.

No. Addons should not be allowed. Because they shouldnt be needed. And because they open some possibilities for cheating.

Reignskream

Yes. They're part of what makes this game great.

Blackwidow wrote: »

Reignskream wrote: »

Really, this discussion? If that's how you feel, great! But i concur.

That means you agree.

Addon's are a part of MMO's, and that's all I have to say about that.

I agree.

That does not mean they should all be allowed. Some are cheats.

Well ya got me on the concur part! LOL, but what i meant was and you know, that i disagree. Nice show of optimism though

What you may consider a cheat, is your own opinion. That decision isn't up for you to decide, but you can think however you please, that's the lovely thing about life!

I don't think they're cheating.