@ZOS How do items like this exist?

Personofsecrets · January 2016

This isn't a big deal and, yes, some players have gotten v16 master weapons. A precise restoration staff was posted months ago.

Obviously the customer service agents just gave out stuff at the highest level because it seemed like the most logical thing to do.

Personofsecrets · January 2016

The only reason we can't have this be the norm is because someone in development hasn't given the okay. I doubt that there is some huge coding barrier that is getting in the way of v16 rewards. A small trivial barrier is all that is probably present between us and v16 rewards.

krseb17_ESO · January 2016

My guess is a bug around forming a group finder -group which scales it up to v16, then leave the dungeon and go to vetDSA and loot scaled up chests.

code65536 · January 2016

krseb17_ESO wrote: »

My guess is a bug around forming a group finder -group which scales it up to v16, then leave the dungeon and go to vetDSA and loot scaled up chests.

Nope. I've done cross-faction DSA using a group formed via group finder. First, I wouldn't recommend it, because the people in the other faction will appear as "enemies" (though you can't attack them), so you can't heal across the faction lines, and any ground AOE that they lay down will appear red to you. Second, this will not introduce any scaling, so what you describe does not happen.

Refuse2GrowUp · January 2016

Personofsecrets wrote: »

This isn't a big deal and, yes, some players have gotten v16 master weapons. A precise restoration staff was posted months ago.

Obviously the customer service agents just gave out stuff at the highest level because it seemed like the most logical thing to do.

A V16 piece of Footman's may not be a big deal, but a V16 Master Weapon would be a bigger deal. Wpns provide an advantage in combat and a weapon that no one esle can get, that many players wish existed and were available to all, would indeed be an unfair advantage to the select few who got them.

Autolycus · January 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel

Any updates on this yet? Is it being worked on? Would love to see some official input on the matter.

Alcast · January 2016

Woeler wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Because it takes TOOOOOOOOO much time to implement aight

Sometimes I wonder if you are even a programmer at all. Probably not.
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I wonder why you even play this game, because the only opinion you have is that the developers sit on that ass all day and that the game is ***. You're never constructive, you're never helpful. Gee I wonder why they won't listen to you.

You have to understand, the first year that I played this game I tried to be constructive...in fact not long ago I gave my suggestions to what the problem are with templars when ZOS asked about it in a specific thread..
And you have to understand, I like trollposts.

The game got a huge bump compared to its start...and once ZOS is finished "repairing" the game they can actually start publish really good content I am sure. last ESO live they said they have like 80 different systems running at the same time..well it will take a while to fix those.

Content that is in the game is great...sadly no new content came out when they had to(still are) repair the game and 95% of Raiders and PvPers quit.

Autolycus · January 2016

Alcast wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Because it takes TOOOOOOOOO much time to implement aight

Sometimes I wonder if you are even a programmer at all. Probably not.
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I wonder why you even play this game, because the only opinion you have is that the developers sit on that ass all day and that the game is ***. You're never constructive, you're never helpful. Gee I wonder why they won't listen to you.

You have to understand, the first year that I played this game I tried to be constructive...in fact not long ago I gave my suggestions to what the problem are with templars when ZOS asked about it in a specific thread..
And you have to understand, I like trollposts.

The game got a huge bump compared to its start...and once ZOS is finished "repairing" the game they can actually start publish really good content I am sure. last ESO live they said they have like 80 different systems running at the same time..well it will take a while to fix those.

Content that is in the game is great...sadly no new content came out when they had to(still are) repair the game and 95% of Raiders and PvPers quit.

I see no reason to stop being constructive now.

Wollust · January 2016

Still no answer. Way to go ZoS.

Autolycus · January 2016

Autolycus wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel

Any updates on this yet? Is it being worked on? Would love to see some official input on the matter.

BUMP because priorities 'n stuff

WTB green banner

Praeficere · January 2016

Glaiceana wrote: »

(Now secretly hoping there's an accidental level cap unlock on Saviour's Hide to allow VR16 instead of just VR12)[/i]

Unrelated to the topic, but Saviour's Hide now drops up to v14! Alongside the other 2, Ebony and Wormcult.. and.. all the other.. sets... which are v14 but not v16 even though they're FROM A V16 DUNGEON.

Casdha · January 2016

tinfoil hat again

Devs have stated that they will never reveal who they are in game, maybe folks should start to keep an eye out and make a list of who sells this kind of stuff :P

OGLezard · January 2016

this is the stuff that makes me lulz. ZoS clearly has no clue what they want to do, they just HOPE what they do is enough to keep people around long enough until they can figure something else out to string them along.

xellink · January 2016

OGLezard wrote: »

this is the stuff that makes me lulz. ZoS clearly has no clue what they want to do, they just HOPE what they do is enough to keep people around long enough until they can figure something else out to string them along.

They know what they want. They want to make money. They just don't know how to do it yet.

Autolycus · January 2016

Praeficere wrote: »

Glaiceana wrote: »

(Now secretly hoping there's an accidental level cap unlock on Saviour's Hide to allow VR16 instead of just VR12)[/i]

Unrelated to the topic, but Saviour's Hide now drops up to v14! Alongside the other 2, Ebony and Wormcult.. and.. all the other.. sets... which are v14 but not v16 even though they're FROM A V16 DUNGEON.

Nothing new here. We were farming vr12 stuff from vr14 dungeons before the increase to vr16.

Nifty2g · January 2016

I still can't believe ZOS won't acknowledge this @ZOS_GinaBruno probably my last attempt before I realise they don't really care or don't want to tell us

Autolycus · January 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

I still can't believe ZOS won't acknowledge this @ZOS_GinaBruno probably my last attempt before I realise they don't really care or don't want to tell us

Agreed. Please at least acknowledge the issue here. This is very important to a lot of people.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel

ZOS_GinaBruno · January 2016

Hey guys, apologies for the delay in an explanation here. Was just waiting on confirming a bunch of details surrounding this.

This first began as a player who did not receive their weekly leaderboard reward. By contacting Customer Support, this player (and anyone who does not receive their reward) was able to obtain the missing reward. In this case, the item in question was created by accident as there is currently no VR16 Locket of the Footman. Since then, the item has been removed from the game. We apologize for the confusion this caused.

All that said, in Update 9 we will be adding some new VR16 gold items that you'll be able to obtain through the weekly Trial leaderboards. This includes the new Trial (which we'll talk in detail about soon!), Hel-Ra, AA, SO, and DSA.

Autolycus · January 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, apologies for the delay in an explanation here. Was just waiting on confirming a bunch of details surrounding this.

This first began as a player who did not receive their weekly leaderboard reward. By contacting Customer Support, this player (and anyone who does not receive their reward) was able to obtain the missing reward. In this case, the item in question was created by accident as there is currently no VR16 Locket of the Footman. Since then, the item has been removed from the game. We apologize for the confusion this caused.

All that said, in Update 9 we will be adding some new VR16 gold items that you'll be able to obtain through the weekly Trial leaderboards. This includes the new Trial (which we'll talk in detail about soon!), Hel-Ra, AA, SO, and DSA.

Thank you Gina. Good news, indeed.

olsborg · January 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, apologies for the delay in an explanation here. Was just waiting on confirming a bunch of details surrounding this.

This first began as a player who did not receive their weekly leaderboard reward. By contacting Customer Support, this player (and anyone who does not receive their reward) was able to obtain the missing reward. In this case, the item in question was created by accident as there is currently no VR16 Locket of the Footman. Since then, the item has been removed from the game. We apologize for the confusion this caused.

All that said, in Update 9 we will be adding some new VR16 gold items that you'll be able to obtain through the weekly Trial leaderboards. This includes the new Trial (which we'll talk in detail about soon!), Hel-Ra, AA, SO, and DSA.

Are these bound on pickup?? thanks in advance

sickboy2808 · January 2016

Yeah thanx for getting back to us on this. Wonder if the player who bought the item got a refund?? Anyways im happy now its been removed

Nifty2g · January 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, apologies for the delay in an explanation here. Was just waiting on confirming a bunch of details surrounding this.

This first began as a player who did not receive their weekly leaderboard reward. By contacting Customer Support, this player (and anyone who does not receive their reward) was able to obtain the missing reward. In this case, the item in question was created by accident as there is currently no VR16 Locket of the Footman. Since then, the item has been removed from the game. We apologize for the confusion this caused.

All that said, in Update 9 we will be adding some new VR16 gold items that you'll be able to obtain through the weekly Trial leaderboards. This includes the new Trial (which we'll talk in detail about soon!), Hel-Ra, AA, SO, and DSA.

@ZOS_GinaBruno thank you for the reply : )glad to know it came from the weekly, I thought it did. Awesome news for the new trials too and weekly scaled content.
I have a question regarding that, will it only come from the weekly or drop from the trial too? I'm just worried how near impossible it's going to be to get some of that new scaled gear

Paulington · January 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, apologies for the delay in an explanation here. Was just waiting on confirming a bunch of details surrounding this.

This first began as a player who did not receive their weekly leaderboard reward. By contacting Customer Support, this player (and anyone who does not receive their reward) was able to obtain the missing reward. In this case, the item in question was created by accident as there is currently no VR16 Locket of the Footman. Since then, the item has been removed from the game. We apologize for the confusion this caused.

All that said, in Update 9 we will be adding some new VR16 gold items that you'll be able to obtain through the weekly Trial leaderboards. This includes the new Trial (which we'll talk in detail about soon!), Hel-Ra, AA, SO, and DSA.

@ZOS_GinaBruno thank you for the reply : )glad to know it came from the weekly, I thought it did. Awesome news for the new trials too and weekly scaled content.
I have a question regarding that, will it only come from the weekly or drop from the trial too? I'm just worried how near impossible it's going to be to get some of that new scaled gear

The answer is almost impossible, quoting my maths from the other thread.

Let's say you're after a precise master restoration staff which of course is BoP so you have to get it, it comes in (as far as I remember) eight traits. You can also get fire staves, ice staves, lightning staves, daggers, swords, 2H sword, bow and then the sets on top like footman ring/neck and healer ring/neck.

So the chances of you getting a resto staff are around 8.33%, then you have eight traits on top of that and you only want one, so that's a 12.5% chance.

That adds up to a 1% chance to get the item you want and this is only possible once every five weeks due to the current weekly system when the new Trial is implemented. The odds of you getting a VR16 master weapon before Dark Brotherhood in perfect trait are around 3%.

Sallington · January 2016

Autolycus wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Because it takes TOOOOOOOOO much time to implement aight

Sometimes I wonder if you are even a programmer at all. Probably not.
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: declared such by judicial construction or interpretation <constructive fraud>

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: promoting improvement or development <constructive criticism>

con·struc·tive·ly adverb
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I wonder why you even play this game, because the only opinion you have is that the developers sit on that ass all day and that the game is ***. You're never constructive, you're never helpful. Gee I wonder why they won't listen to you.

There's many good reasons why a lot of people have that same opinion.

Then why play in the first place?

Because the game still has potential if they start pushing it in the right direction. That potential is fading though, and if there was anything better in the MMO market right now, a lot of us would be gone.

I get the feeling that come the first week of March, we will either see a ton of positive discussions here or massive outflux of players.

I'd have to agree.

IC wasn't what I was expecting, having WAY to much PvE, and NO PvP objectives. We still had some good fights, so it wasn't all bad.

Ors

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, apologies for the delay in an explanation here. Was just waiting on confirming a bunch of details surrounding this.

This first began as a player who did not receive their weekly leaderboard reward. By contacting Customer Support, this player (and anyone who does not receive their reward) was able to obtain the missing reward. In this case, the item in question was created by accident as there is currently no VR16 Locket of the Footman. Since then, the item has been removed from the game. We apologize for the confusion this caused.

All that said, in Update 9 we will be adding some new VR16 gold items that you'll be able to obtain through the weekly Trial leaderboards. This includes the new Trial (which we'll talk in detail about soon!), Hel-Ra, AA, SO, and DSA.

Does this mean the old Trials will scale to V16 too, or do they stay at V12, continuing to make everything but the weekly rewards useless?

Dakrana_Thrazvoth · January 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, apologies for the delay in an explanation here. Was just waiting on confirming a bunch of details surrounding this.

This first began as a player who did not receive their weekly leaderboard reward. By contacting Customer Support, this player (and anyone who does not receive their reward) was able to obtain the missing reward. In this case, the item in question was created by accident as there is currently no VR16 Locket of the Footman. Since then, the item has been removed from the game. We apologize for the confusion this caused.

All that said, in Update 9 we will be adding some new VR16 gold items that you'll be able to obtain through the weekly Trial leaderboards. This includes the new Trial (which we'll talk in detail about SOON!), Hel-Ra, AA, SO, and DSA.

baratron · January 2016

Paulington wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

All that said, in Update 9 we will be adding some new VR16 gold items that you'll be able to obtain through the weekly Trial leaderboards. This includes the new Trial (which we'll talk in detail about soon!), Hel-Ra, AA, SO, and DSA.

@ZOS_GinaBruno thank you for the reply : )glad to know it came from the weekly, I thought it did. Awesome news for the new trials too and weekly scaled content.
I have a question regarding that, will it only come from the weekly or drop from the trial too? I'm just worried how near impossible it's going to be to get some of that new scaled gear

The answer is almost impossible, quoting my maths from the other thread.

Let's say you're after a precise master restoration staff which of course is BoP so you have to get it, it comes in (as far as I remember) eight traits. You can also get fire staves, ice staves, lightning staves, daggers, swords, 2H sword, bow and then the sets on top like footman ring/neck and healer ring/neck.

So the chances of you getting a resto staff are around 8.33%, then you have eight traits on top of that and you only want one, so that's a 12.5% chance.

That adds up to a 1% chance to get the item you want and this is only possible once every five weeks due to the current weekly system when the new Trial is implemented. The odds of you getting a VR16 master weapon before Dark Brotherhood in perfect trait are around 3%.

Surely you can't get a Master weapon in Training? Surely...?

NoMoreChillies · January 2016

did the guy who paid 500k lose his gold too?

timidobserver · January 2016

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

did the guy who paid 500k lose his gold too?

I expect not. He would have made enough threads to fill the whole front page if he had.

GorraShatan · January 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, apologies for the delay in an explanation here. Was just waiting on confirming a bunch of details surrounding this.

This first began as a player who did not receive their weekly leaderboard reward. By contacting Customer Support, this player (and anyone who does not receive their reward) was able to obtain the missing reward. In this case, the item in question was created by accident as there is currently no VR16 Locket of the Footman. Since then, the item has been removed from the game. We apologize for the confusion this caused.

All that said, in Update 9 we will be adding some new VR16 gold items that you'll be able to obtain through the weekly Trial leaderboards. This includes the new Trial (which we'll talk in detail about soon!), Hel-Ra, AA, SO, and DSA.

This is badly needed. Right now there's nothing to compete with the Willpower and Endurance sets for the jewelry slots, and it's made gear customization very stale. Doesn't help that there is so much BoP equipment out there too, and not enough variation in which slots different sets cover.

Kas · January 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

All that said, in Update 9 we will be adding some new VR16 gold items that you'll be able to obtain through the weekly Trial leaderboards. This includes the new Trial (which we'll talk in detail about soon!), Hel-Ra, AA, SO, and DSA.

Are there any plans to change the way positions are counted?
Right now, assuming people or chars change slightly between raid-days, this leaves room for 5-6 guilds across all three factions for 12-man trials. Right now, this is fine, because very few players care about no-meaningful-loot trials. However, after such a change, this will be very different.

In the extreme case, the very best group (with 8 chars each) could occupy almost the entire leader board alone. From my experience, it requires quite some work and coordination to beat new content / squeeze oput the last bit for the old stuff. Moving gear and achieving near-perfect dps/tank/heal performance for a single player is quite easy in comparison.

Either way, I think the 12-man leader boards are incredibly hard to enter. Especially in comparison to the solo leader boards that are split across classes. Trying for the no-death achievement, I once died early on and decided to do the following: watch a football match for 2x 45min and just tap e to rezz every other min (without even switching my screen to show the pc. I still ended up in the weekly with 90 wasted minutes). On the other hand, assuming really good stuff drops from weeklies in an unchanged system, I don't think I'd have a chance to get into a 12-man weekly.

Room for 100 groups is a lot, maybe too much. But if it's for 100 players, it really should be players/accounts - not chars.
100 chars across 3 factions is very competitive. Competition is fine, but somehow all the other things are so readily available - e.g. useless pvp rewards - if they were useful, top rewards for the top 2% (this scales with the umber of competitors, if trial rewards are really good, i'd expect the top 100 are there for far less than the top 2% of players). 400 slots for the solo trials - why 4 times as much? And zero progression after AR24, 501Cp, and so on. So I guess what I want to say is that the top 100 for trial boards is not really in line with other competitive parts of the game.