Yes to VR16!

Elijah_Crow

Some points you should know. - Long term goal is still to remove veteran ranks, but it is intimately tied with gear progression currently. This allows them to release more content without the delay on full re-itemization.

1. XP needed for every VR rank reduced by 15%
2. Quest XP increased by 50%
3. Public Dungeons (Large group delves) Doubling XP
4. Craglorn XP increased by 20%

It appears that this increase will be timed with the release of new content Imperial City / Wrothgar

At this time many new armor and weapon sets will be introduced as well. (Two weeks for details)


Gear progression is inevitable. I would most likely re-make my gear any way with one of the new sets. Sounds like there will be a wide range of new gear.

Sky is not falling.

Troneon

Except the amount of gold and materials people put into getting their current items sets and builds just became useless and the amount of time they put into them?

Increasing VR ranks was like taking a shot gun to ESO's foot...and then using radiant oppression on yourself.

Doesn't effect me but I am not going to try and make it smell like roses for others...it is what it is.

redspecter23

Content first, then cap increase. It doesn't matter how much extra % xp they award me if all the zones I can play in are V10 and under as the increase doesn't make up for the penalty I'll receive for being too high for the mobs in that zone.

Elijah_Crow

Lol. WoW and SWTOR do this every year.

Akavir_Sentinel

Public dungeon XP is getting increased by 100%

Grimnaur

Troneon wrote: »

Except the amount of gold and materials people put into getting their current items sets and builds just because useless and the amount of time they put into them?

Increasing VR ranks was like taking a shot gun to ESO's foot...

Not arguing with you, but that is how all gear grinding games work. You work for best gear, then they raise the level and you rinse/repeat.

Elijah_Crow

redspecter23 wrote: »

Content first, then cap increase. It doesn't matter how much extra % xp they award me if all the zones I can play in are V10 and under as the increase doesn't make up for the penalty I'll receive for being too high for the mobs in that zone.

Watched the whole show. It seems that the level increase will be at the same time of the new content release. They didn't say that for a fact, but alluded to it.

Samadhi

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Some points you should know. - Long term goal is still to remove veteran ranks, but it is intimately tied with gear progression currently. This allows them to release more content without the delay on full re-itemization.
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So v16 is just an excuse to get us to burn off more refining items before they change gears on us again.

Okay. Will just stick with my v14 stuff then.

Rylana

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Lol. WoW and SWTOR do this every year.

Except for they actually add stuff to do

Youre assuming theres tons of new things to do. Newsflash - we havent had a content update since dragonstar arena/upper craglorn 10 months ago

gg.

notimetocare

Troneon wrote: »

Except the amount of gold and materials people put into getting their current items sets and builds just because useless and the amount of time they put into them?

Increasing VR ranks was like taking a shot gun to ESO's foot...and then using radiant oppression on yourself.

Doesn't effect me but I am not going to try and make it smell like roses for others...it is what it is.

Meh, welcome to gaming? Every game has this. So far ESO has been the only one where old gear remains viable. See v12 gear still being used by v14s.

Psychobunni

You forgot "16 right now" and "any future ones potentially"

Elijah_Crow

notimetocare wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

Except the amount of gold and materials people put into getting their current items sets and builds just because useless and the amount of time they put into them?

Increasing VR ranks was like taking a shot gun to ESO's foot...and then using radiant oppression on yourself.

Doesn't effect me but I am not going to try and make it smell like roses for others...it is what it is.

Meh, welcome to gaming? Every game has this. So far ESO has been the only one where old gear remains viable. See v12 gear still being used by v14s.

True, but they sound really excited about some of the new armor and weapon sets. Can't wait to see what will be available and how to get it.

notimetocare

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

Except the amount of gold and materials people put into getting their current items sets and builds just because useless and the amount of time they put into them?

Increasing VR ranks was like taking a shot gun to ESO's foot...and then using radiant oppression on yourself.

Doesn't effect me but I am not going to try and make it smell like roses for others...it is what it is.

Meh, welcome to gaming? Every game has this. So far ESO has been the only one where old gear remains viable. See v12 gear still being used by v14s.

True, but they sound really excited about some of the new armor and weapon sets. Can't wait to see what will be available and how to get it.

No doubt, good chances stuff gets replaced, but if its not a whole new teir of enchants and material, it is senseless to complain about a tiny stat difference and say its the end of the world like he did.

redspecter23

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Content first, then cap increase. It doesn't matter how much extra % xp they award me if all the zones I can play in are V10 and under as the increase doesn't make up for the penalty I'll receive for being too high for the mobs in that zone.

Watched the whole show. It seems that the level increase will be at the same time of the new content release. They didn't say that for a fact, but alluded to it.

I really hope that's the case and that they have planned ahead with plenty of quests, especially good xp daily quests. If I have to fight 100 other players for a good mob grind outside just because that's the only way to get reasonable xp/min, I think I'll cry. We shouldn't be put in situations where we fight against each other in non pvp situations.

parpin

Grimnaur wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

Except the amount of gold and materials people put into getting their current items sets and builds just because useless and the amount of time they put into them?

Increasing VR ranks was like taking a shot gun to ESO's foot...

Not arguing with you, but that is how all gear grinding games work. You work for best gear, then they raise the level and you rinse/repeat.

when they release an expansion..same for both swtor and wow..due to the new zones and raids and dungeons..this level cap increase along with new gear is acceptable..but not when there is no new content and the so called IC is nowhere to be seen.

danovic

A lot of the problems of upgrading there gear could be solved by just letting boss kills drop gold level gear. There is no way most of the boss fights should drop any less. A boss is just not going to wear less and it should drop. Should be able to deconstruct gold mats from gear drops not just the endless grind of searching for stuff to refine.

Malthorne

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Lol. WoW and SWTOR do this every year.

For most of us this will be the second time we gear up this year...and at this rate I'm inclined to believe there will be a 3rd as well.

Akavir_Sentinel

It doesn't bother me one bit. There isn't that much of a difference between two VR ranks of gear anyway. I look forward to the new sets.

sadownik

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Lol. WoW and SWTOR do this every year.

So in what way ESO i different?

tengri

Well, I was almost ready to waste tons of mats on a few new suits... that ESO Live today saved me about 1m in tempers.
And I bet I can flip those soon to some loaded sods who desperately hunger for the latest, brightest and shiniest min/max suits.... and I'm gonna make them pay for that. A lot.
Life is good! *whistles a happy tune*

Elijah_Crow

Yea..almost upgraded all my Epic to Legendary..was going to do tonight. Glad I waited!

daemonios

Agreed. Never had it in for VR levels anyway. They're only a pain if you're in a rush to get to end-game, and the game shouldn't be developed around people in a rush or leveling several alts (for the record, I have 2 VR14s and a number of other characters at various stages of progression through the VR levels).

Rylana

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Yea..almost upgraded all my Epic to Legendary..was going to do tonight. Glad I waited!

"Don't ever do anything in the game, because it might change tomorrow. In fact dont even play the game because if it changes everything youve done will no longer matter in progression, but hey thats a wonderful feeling to know I didnt lose anything because I never did anything to start with". - you

lathbury

Rylana wrote: »

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Yea..almost upgraded all my Epic to Legendary..was going to do tonight. Glad I waited!

"Don't ever do anything in the game, because it might change tomorrow. In fact dont even play the game because if it changes everything youve done will no longer matter in progression, but hey thats a wonderful feeling to know I didnt lose anything because I never did anything to start with". - you

its been longer than a day i understand ppl getting annoyed when it quickly went from 10 to twelve to 14 but this has been the max for a while.

Elijah_Crow

Yea..the people at cap need something to aspire to! And some VR16 mobs in Imperial City to kick their @sses

OzJohnD

oooh .. opportunity to profit from all my V9+ mats saved up

Olivierko

We already have a progress system in place, which was the initial argument for the removal of veteran ranks.

The Champion System itself will keep us occupied for years to come, no need of adding more character levels.

When I finally thought that they've found a solution that wasn't the typical MMO progression system ...

GamerzElite

GamerzElite wrote: »

"ERIC WROBEL: Removal of veteran rank is out long term goal but its not easy to unbound all V14 items, So we introducing VR16 to close the gap "

The biggest question is, Then how will you unbound V16 items?
Another lie ZOS...

Its not matter of welcoming VR16 or not, most are upset of ZOS excuse and lies.

Elijah_Crow

Two choices:

1. VR ranks are removed and complete itemization is redone. We have to wait for new content because of this.
2. Add two new levels to the current system and release content now, and work on itemization and removal of VR afterward.

I'll take choice two and have the new content to keep me busy while they work on redoing all itemization and removal of VR levels.

Deathztalker

VR16 and the XP boot will force people into getting the CP they need in order to help solve the PVP problem but this is only patch for the CP problem and not a solution :-(

Rosveen

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Two choices:

1. VR ranks are removed and complete itemization is redone. We have to wait for new content because of this.
2. Add two new levels to the current system and release content now, and work on itemization and removal of VR afterward.

I'll take choice two and have the new content to keep me busy while they work on redoing all itemization and removal of VR levels.

3. Add new content without increasing the level cap.

Maybe there's a good reason why it couldn't be done, I don't know, I'm not an insightful person. Someone please explain.