Some people don't take losing well. Especially those that believe they are OP as hell xD

susmitds wrote: »

Soul Assault is broken. A medium armor stamina build has hardly any way to defend against it. Even while blocking, it will blow through 75% of HP and at least 40% of your stamina bar.

All it does is to promote the Black Rose meta.

But as always the stamina version is worse. The bow ult goes through LoS (or I've just been super unlucky, but it never breaks for me even when behind large trees and stuff).

But yeah, hold block and healing is the worst counter play ZoS could have come up with >.<

Vorcil wrote: »

Nerf stamina medium builds
nefs proc builds
nerf invincible tanks

but don't nerf magicka... that's the last thing this game needs

No need to nerf anything! but just forums where some players QQ after any release....

Buff Sorcerer shields back to 20s ! ................................ * streaks away *

I disagree with the title of this thread. Dueling was the worst addition in a while.

Taylor_MB wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Soul Assault is broken. A medium armor stamina build has hardly any way to defend against it. Even while blocking, it will blow through 75% of HP and at least 40% of your stamina bar.

All it does is to promote the Black Rose meta.

But as always the stamina version is worse. The bow ult goes through LoS (or I've just been super unlucky, but it never breaks for me even when behind large trees and stuff).

But yeah, hold block and healing is the worst counter play ZoS could have come up with >.<

I haven't found this to be true, don't have the morphed versions yet but for both unmorphed, I tested with a buddy through dualing.

Soul Strike was uninterruptable, undodgeable, unable to CC opponent during use, did roughly the same damage as the bow ultimate for almost half the cost and slowed the target.

Rapid Fire was unbashable, but could both be dodged and entirely negated by CC'ing your opponent, did slightly more damage but roughly double the cost and while you can move at full speed so can your opponent.

I have yet to test Rapid Fire with cloak or a ranged interrupt, or either or the morphs for both Soul Strike or Rapid Fire. But so far from the early return of duals Soul Strike is far and away better than Rapid Fire.

If you see your opponent cast Rapid Fire, CC entirely negates it, dodging negates it, LOS negates it and there is no slow to keep you from LOSing, and blocking negates it although it appears that blocking will destroy your stamina pool.

I love dueling, spent 15 minutes earlier in 1 duel against a very troublesome DK, i eventually lost when i ran out of stam pots, he only had 1 left too

Dueling is great addition,

Loving it, for haters they should not play MMO instead time to go for single player..

even though my download still isn't complete....... i feel duelling is a 2 way street - for many people including myself, this patch has been long awaited on. On the other hand i feel it is another IC player base splitter - but then again after almost 2 years of [SNIP] pvp who honestly cares about cyrodiil anymore (zerglings need not reply)

I don't have a problem with the addition of Dueling. It gives players a chance to test out a build before they go into Cyrodiil and find out it has weaknesses they need to fix. It also allows players the chance to duel friends of the same Faction which we could not do before.

The only problem I have with Dueling is the locations of the Duels. Some choose to duel in areas that could be seen as harassing to other players. High Traffic areas such as Crafting areas and dye stations or Quest NPC's. The small fix I would suggest that may work in some cases would be to add a code that you cannot Duel in areas that the game does not allow you to summon your mount. Indoors areas and such.

Right now, Dueling is the new toy that everyone has to try. Give it a few weeks or a month or so and the excitement over it will die down a bit and there won't be as many dueling everywhere they can. As for myself, I turned on Auto-Duel declines so that I would not constantly get bugged by people I don't know asking me to Accept or Decline when I am trying to do other things. If I want to duel a friend for fun, I can always turn it on for that fight then turn it back off afterwards.

Nerf duels. Pvp players finally get face roll pve players.. not to mention, I can't go to elden root to buy a pack of smokes without running into 47 ppl getting [SNIP] in a duel.

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Similar to cheating issues plaguing PvP in Cyrodiil, I'm beginning to notice some things among some duelers could be in the same category. Particularly when a 360 CP beating a 561, and I'm seeing mostly the 561 CP's health depleting, and the 360's health rarely breaking below 3/4. Another time, one toon kept spamming fragmented shield or barrier and of course that toon won, because he or she was rarely getting damaged, but was able to mercilessly damage the opponent. Also, maybe a glitch, but also some zone chats saying certain was not even realized he or she was even part of a duel, but was getting hit/damages from another player attacking. Another time, I just saw a toon thrashing another way lower CP toon and the other toon wasn't even fighting back. What is up with that? Is it similar to PvP in Cyrodiil where you get points for beating the other toon?

I'll try to answer each point.

- 360 vs 561: It's more likely that you witnessed a good player with a full time job vs a person who plays a ton but doesn't PVP that much. There are thousands of max level players who don't know how to PVP. Sure cheating could happen but it certainly would be far down my list of worries, especially if you're talking about consoles.
- Shields are vital in dueling.
- There are lots of tanky sets that you can build to still hit like a truck. Barrier is one of the few shields that can be used without magic or stam so if someone isn't going to use their ultimate offensively barrier is a great choice.
- Other players cannot damage you in a duel. NPCs can.
- Not fighting back? Maybe their batteries ran out. Maybe they were doing a DPS test. Maybe their pizza showed up. There is no benefit to letting your buddy beat you other than maybe the achievement of winning a duel. I wouldn't worry about this.
- No points are awarded like AP in Cyrodiil. You are only rewarded with by being a triumphantly glorious warrior.