I have no problem with inventory management; although more options like the OP has posted would be nice. My problem, and I'm assuming most everyone elses is inventory space.

Actually, I think each character should have it's own bank space.

It just gets worse and worse as time goes on. Each trophy and treasure map added as a quest reward takes one more spot away from crafting space. I have all character slots filled. One is a non crafting adventurer. One is a non playing mule. The rest represent each crafting specialty. In addition to that morass of mats my toons are spaced out in level. This gives me the option of handing down used armor/weapons to the younger ones. Life is close to impossible. All of my seller slots are filled in the guild banks. I spend as much unhappy time dealing with inventory as I spend happy time adventuring.

As I have said, a simple solution is to make trophies, treasure maps, and the like quest items instead of the current miscellaneous. While not being an ultimate cure it would be the easiest for the devs to do and would provide all of us a bit of much needed respite.

Personally, I think the Inventory space should be set up the same way STO does it.

Personal Space
Bank Space
Shared Space

Your alts can then have their own bag and bank space that they can expand and you can have the shared space that can be expanded, but to a smaller number.

Maybe in numbers like this:

100 Personal Bag Space (150/175 with horse)
200 Personal Bank Space
50 Shared Bank Space

This way you will have plenty of room for your own stuff, and still have space to share items with your alts. Instead of leaving the items in the bank though, you would pull those items out for your alts and keep them in their own bank/bag spaces.

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

I think these aren't so much as workarounds, but rather game design decisions that ZOS consciously made when they designed the inventory system.

So they consciously designed the game to be a pain in the ass instead of entertainment. Got it. Brilliant design choice.

Some people like everything easy for them some people like to feel like they earned it. To each their own.

Lodestar wrote: »

Allyah wrote: »

Lodestar wrote: »

Chrysolis wrote: »

fredarbonab14_ESO wrote: »

"Inventory is unmanageable" - for the pack rat; keep less. Simple.

Read the actual thread, not just the title.

@Allyah‌, the post in question did not address or have anything to do with you, nor was it inflammatory.

He had no intentions of reading the thread. He is one of the less committed dissenters, who charge in, grunt once or twice to make a blanket statement, with derogatory tone, and move on.

Had a few here, and about 3 or so committed objectors, who just repeat the same things over again, with same put downs. None of which are worth getting wound up over or engaging. Tempting though it can be I do accept.

I did read the thread and even responded to it.

Moderator edit: edited for personal attacks.

This comment got an insightful? Odd. He replied to this when I was not even speaking to him, and was referring to another poster. That is insight?

Besides, I already said there were people I was not speaking to anymore as looking at their inflammatory posts, and cyclic arguments, and even advised others (@Blackwidow for on) not engage in that, as they were not here for a discussion. In that regard, I advise you not waste your time speaking to me as I will not respond further.

And thank you @Thorwil. Much appreciated. I wonder if you also feel, a simple patch in the near future, to make trophies and pets no take up actual bank and bag space, would be a great token gesture. Even better if urn containers and maps were included

PS I wonder if the detractors in the thread dare flame or insult you, claiming your point is illogical.

I replied to you because you spoke of me. Surely that is understandable. Try to recognize your remarks about me for what they are... passive aggressiveness. My mention of your passive aggressiveness before it was moderated is probably what got it the insightful but we'll probably never know for sure. Don't be so sore about it. Forum stats mean nothing.

Whether you respond or not is of no concern to me.

The mods post wasn't illogical and didn't make any remarks that warrant an argument against. So not sure why anyone would flame or insult their post.

this thread needs to get locked cuz it's useless.

Making guild banks automatically stack the same items is much needed too.. it's a HUGE pain to spend an hour every day to clear the 200+ wasted slots with 5-12x the same item on average.


But aye, some of those changes you people wrote down are good:

- disguises being in separate tab like quest items would solve much, since bank is too small to hold mats, let alone XX disguises (ESPECIALLY holding multiple epic disguises because some dev thought it would be funny to put lvl 50 requirement on them.. so much hard work and you can't even use them on alts).

- stacking to 1000 would make us way more efficient, right now I hold just 1 stack of everything in my bank (no space for more stacks).. the problem is, 100 pieces is mostly enough just to craft a SINGLE set out of that material, hoping that nothing breaks while tempering it..

- and most of all, doubling bank space would finally allow us to do provisioning, enchanting or alchemy without HUGE inventory problems..

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

I think these aren't so much as workarounds, but rather game design decisions that ZOS consciously made when they designed the inventory system.

So they consciously designed the game to be a pain in the ass instead of entertainment. Got it. Brilliant design choice.

Exactly. Their goal was to make it a pain in the ass for people who use no strategy in their inventory management. You want to be king crafter with 50 in every craft and all sorts of materials at your disposal? You're going to have to work hard to get yourself into that position, it won't just be handed to you as a crafting tab in your bank.

Blackwidow wrote: »

babylon wrote: »

AreoHotah wrote: »

this thread needs to get locked cuz it's useless.

It's hardly useless, everyone I speak to hates the inventory system, and it's not like I only come across people who are like me either.

The inventory system is probably one of ESO's biggest most basic problems right now.

QFT.

The system is broken.

The only ones who fight to keep it this way are the ones who have your own personal guild bank, or have no problem with using mules.

I have no alternate characters and I am not a member of a single guild. I have to make choices over what to keep every day, but half of the time its easy. Deconstruct the stuff I don't use, keep mats, sell everything else, maybe store a piece of armor for research. That's it.

It also helps that I abandoned enchanting completely. I also bought a couple of upgrades with money easy enough, and still have about 8 free slots available in the bank.

o.o You have that problem at vet 5 or did I read smth wrong? Er...how? I do enchanting(70+ kinds of runes, yes, I hoard them), alchemy, woodwork and clothing, have been doing them all since lvl 1. It was pretty bad at lower levels but now? I have 140 bank slots, 110 bag slots+a horse which I only feed oatmeal(lvl 30 or so atm), I have a bad habit of hoarding stuff like jewelry or set items but lately it's been perfectly fine for me, ever since I bought a horse basically.

Not saying it's perfect - it's horrendous at low lvls if you try to do more than 1-2 crafts(or if you do provisioning/enchanting), but by vet 5, after spending quite a bit of gold(but let's face it, there're not really that many things to actually spend gold on, so why not?), it becomes perfectly fine. I'm vet 6 myself, if anything.

I have just one mule and she only gets the trophies and pets because I don't really need either but feel bad just destroying them.
It would be nice if trophies, pets and disguises didn't clutter inventory tho as the value of most is purely sentimental, sure. And treasure maps? What's the problem with them? They disappear as soon as you find the treasure, I for one like treasure hunting so I try to do that ASAP. If you don't, maybe you should just sell them or smth.

Blackwidow wrote: »

babylon wrote: »

AreoHotah wrote: »

this thread needs to get locked cuz it's useless.

It's hardly useless, everyone I speak to hates the inventory system, and it's not like I only come across people who are like me either.

The inventory system is probably one of ESO's biggest most basic problems right now.

QFT.

The system is broken.

The only ones who fight to keep it this way are the ones who have your own personal guild bank, or have no problem with using mules.

Incorrect. I am ok with the way it is (other than I would like a separate tab for costumes/pets/maps/trophies) and I do not have a personal guild bank and 1 mule holds only costumes/pets/maps/trophies. I actively play the other 7 and 6 of them are crafters. The system works for me as I know what to keep and am ruthless about not keeping any more than that.
I understand that it does not work for everyone but it does work for some of us.

Lodestar wrote: »

babylon wrote: »

AreoHotah wrote: »

this thread needs to get locked cuz it's useless.

It's hardly useless, everyone I speak to hates the inventory system, and it's not like I only come across people who are like me either.

The inventory system is probably one of ESO's biggest most basic problems right now.

One of the internets biggest ironies. That people insist on bumping a thread, instead of leaving it alone if they don't like it.

I don't like Lady Gaga or Twilight, but I don't go over to their fan sites and such just to make it clear. THAT is what is useless.

Kinda like people unhappy with a game coming onto the forums to complain about it in a non constructive manner?

Allyah wrote: »

Lodestar wrote: »

One of the internets biggest ironies. That people insist on bumping a thread, instead of leaving it alone if they don't like it.

I don't like Lady Gaga or Twilight, but I don't go over to their fan sites and such just to make it clear. THAT is what is useless.

Kinda like people unhappy with a game coming onto the forums to complain about it in a non constructive manner?[/quote]

Considering I do not actually do that, is evidence of glaring inaccuracies that they are not the same.

Especially as I have never bought anything to do with those particular things, and they do not have an ongoing project, that I pay regularly for, that has forums asking for feedback.

Not much the same at all. In fact MILES OFF!

I have said nothing @thorwil has not said. Yet you are such a coward as to accuse me of being illogical, and make flaming and insulting posts, aimed at me that are required to be edited frequently, yet not to do the same to a mod.

I on the other hand have not gone anywhere near. I had two posts edited by over reactions, one for asking a poster pages back, what flavour lollipop they wanted (yes that was moderated for flaming), and one that was also misunderstood, where I was telling someone (may have been you), I was done with engaging them, and recommended they do the same.

Since twice you never got the message, that means you. And if you don't claim to care if I respond, why are you still engaging me, with petty attempts at cut downs?

230 Bank slots, 5 mules with 80 slot ( all over 3/4 full) 1 Alt Enchanting with 70/90 slot bag ( almost all Enchanting mats) 1 Alt 50/112 Alchemy ( I play this one often) Main 40/112 slot bag Does BS, Cloth, Wood. My bank usually has 200 slots filled with Crafting mats. I keep at least a stack of every BS, Wood, Cloth in it. I also have quite a few provisioning mats scattered. I have some multi stacks of some things. I craft for me and my wife (She has a lot of alts) and is always asking for gear. Rather than have to go out and re farm for mats I I keep stuff on hand. I'm the type that tries to keep everything I may need on hand. When it's needed I have it on the spot, not an hour or more from now. I'm gonna guess If you had one of every component needed to make anything, your looking at easily 600 or more Slots. So do the math if you think 240 bank and 110 personal is Adequate.

Zabalah wrote: »

The solution to the inventory issues is simple.

Limit the amount of crafting skills you can have on your account. This would eliminate hording, encourage more trading, and boost the economy. In the grand scheme of things, it also will help YOU as a crafter and adventurer.... less time spent on micromanaging your bags, and more time for questing, adventuring and exploration.

Come to think of it, most MMOs DO limit the amount of crafts you can learn -- for the very reasons listed in this thread as arguments to expand the inventory system.

They tend to limit the crafts you can have per character. Not stunt your space across your account. Even in the others you mention, you can have a character master each craft if you wished.

Not sure why this is such an issue. As for other reasons. I am having to micromanage because an over zealous dev wants this as part of their vision (an odd one on me). I fail to see how it can help me as a crafter when, having a character master a couple crafts each, helps me lots more, just need the mats. And not sure it will help the economy or not, but that is irrelevant to me. I don't care about in game economy.

Lodestar wrote: »

Allyah wrote: »

Lodestar wrote: »

One of the internets biggest ironies. That people insist on bumping a thread, instead of leaving it alone if they don't like it.

I don't like Lady Gaga or Twilight, but I don't go over to their fan sites and such just to make it clear. THAT is what is useless.

Kinda like people unhappy with a game coming onto the forums to complain about it in a non constructive manner?

Considering I do not actually do that, is evidence of glaring inaccuracies that they are not the same.

Especially as I have never bought anything to do with those particular things, and they do not have an ongoing project, that I pay regularly for, that has forums asking for feedback.

Not much the same at all. In fact MILES OFF!

I have said nothing @thorwil has not said. Yet you are such a coward as to accuse me of being illogical, and make flaming and insulting posts, aimed at me that are required to be edited frequently, yet not to do the same to a mod.

I on the other hand have not gone anywhere near. I had two posts edited by over reactions, one for asking a poster pages back, what flavour lollipop they wanted (yes that was moderated for flaming), and one that was also misunderstood, where I was telling someone (may have been you), I was done with engaging them, and recommended they do the same.

Since twice you never got the message, that means you. And if you don't claim to care if I respond, why are you still engaging me, with petty attempts at cut downs?

I don't believe I ever accused you of that in my post. But since you bring up the post about the lollipop... I believe I recall you being a smartass and cursing at someone in the same post. Maybe it was a joke, maybe it wasn't. But I don't think it's that hard to understand why they took it down and why that could be considered nonconstructive. Cry victim all you want. Everyone who saw your posts know why they were edited.

Also, responding to you means I care if you respond to me? Get real. No one on these forums cares a bit about your response. Perhaps if you could learn to be civil in your responses, they would. Then again, probably not.

babylon wrote: »

Allyah wrote: »

Lodestar wrote: »

babylon wrote: »

AreoHotah wrote: »

this thread needs to get locked cuz it's useless.

It's hardly useless, everyone I speak to hates the inventory system, and it's not like I only come across people who are like me either.

The inventory system is probably one of ESO's biggest most basic problems right now.

One of the internets biggest ironies. That people insist on bumping a thread, instead of leaving it alone if they don't like it.

I don't like Lady Gaga or Twilight, but I don't go over to their fan sites and such just to make it clear. THAT is what is useless.

Kinda like people unhappy with a game coming onto the forums to complain about it in a non constructive manner?

Who is posting in an unconstructive manner except for the guys saying "wow I just love having stupidly limited space and spending five days organising my bags, this makes me sooo happy and you should be happy too".

That's called an (exaggerated-by-you) alternate opinion. Not a non constructive post. Learn the difference.