p.hurst1b16_ESO wrote: »

Add a new class once every couple of years. They should add a class that relies on Stamina.

i don't want to play wow, i'd be playing it if i did :"P

If they took away classes, then how would people be able to complain about who's OP when we'll all be the same class?

Unhappy gamers want/need to be happy being unhappy; or is it happy gamers need/want to be unhappy being happy....

Dagnabbit! Now I'm all confused.

stryderzz wrote: »

*bump* let the players decide i say

The forum does not mean all of the players. I think it's mostly pissed off players and fans here. I don't think Zenimax actually gives a damn about any of these polls. Zenimax needs to realease their own official polls and let us vote on features and issues that are important to the game.

david271749 wrote: »

stryderzz wrote: »

*bump* let the players decide i say

The forum does not mean all of the players. I think it's mostly pissed off players and fans here. I don't think Zenimax actually gives a damn about any of these polls. Zenimax needs to realease their own official polls and let us vote on features and issues that are important to the game.

i agree but as a player who wants to see this done i don't have many options and maybe if it got big enough they may take notice (i'm not getting my hopes but still it doesn't hurt to be optimistic) i believe they should totally have their own polls and post them on player emails and their FB page etc to gain notice and get a more accurate poll

Urmi wrote: »

david271749 wrote: »

stryderzz wrote: »

*bump* let the players decide i say

The forum does not mean all of the players. I think it's mostly pissed off players and fans here. I don't think Zenimax actually gives a damn about any of these polls. Zenimax needs to release their own official polls and let us vote on features and issues that are important to the game.

That is exactly what they should do I was about to comment about that , if they made their own polls on the official website like many MMO's do it would be great and plenty of people would see it

stryderzz wrote: »

david271749 wrote: »

stryderzz wrote: »

*bump* let the players decide i say

The forum does not mean all of the players. I think it's mostly pissed off players and fans here. I don't think Zenimax actually gives a damn about any of these polls. Zenimax needs to realease their own official polls and let us vote on features and issues that are important to the game.

i agree but as a player who wants to see this done i don't have many options and maybe if it got big enough they may take notice (i'm not getting my hopes but still it doesn't hurt to be optimistic) i believe they should totally have their own polls and post them on player emails and their FB page etc to gain notice and get a more accurate poll

So how would we get them to do this? Create a poll on whether Zenimax should crate their own polls? Lol. We can't PM them. Maybe write a letter? Call them? I'd even be happy with surveys like they had in beta. We wouldn't get to see statistics, but it would be better than some random long ass feedback thread that's dedicated to one topic only.

david271749 wrote: »

Urmi wrote: »

david271749 wrote: »

stryderzz wrote: »

*bump* let the players decide i say

The forum does not mean all of the players. I think it's mostly pissed off players and fans here. I don't think Zenimax actually gives a damn about any of these polls. Zenimax needs to release their own official polls and let us vote on features and issues that are important to the game.

That is exactly what they should do I was about to comment about that , if they made their own polls on the official website like many MMO's do it would be great and plenty of people would see it

stryderzz wrote: »

david271749 wrote: »

stryderzz wrote: »

*bump* let the players decide i say

The forum does not mean all of the players. I think it's mostly pissed off players and fans here. I don't think Zenimax actually gives a damn about any of these polls. Zenimax needs to realease their own official polls and let us vote on features and issues that are important to the game.

i agree but as a player who wants to see this done i don't have many options and maybe if it got big enough they may take notice (i'm not getting my hopes but still it doesn't hurt to be optimistic) i believe they should totally have their own polls and post them on player emails and their FB page etc to gain notice and get a more accurate poll

So how would we get them to do this? Create a poll on whether Zenimax should crate their own polls? Lol. We can't PM them. Maybe write a letter? Call them? I'd even be happy with surveys like they had in beta. We wouldn't get to see statistics, but it would be better than some random long ass feedback thread that's dedicated to one topic only.

i'm not really sure, its hard as an individual to get a company to notice you, but maybe a poll will work lol

Uviryth wrote: »

"I want MORE classes in the future" is missing. I'd vote for that.

I was going to say that but my hand slipped and it entered the post and i can't edit it i was also going to add *OTHER* Please comment below but oh well :P lol

Not going to make a new poll haha

I don't understand how removing classes would add more variety to the game. Unless you mean to say just make all of the class skill lines available to everyone? I'm not sure.

Anyway - to those complaining about balance. I am growing tired of this word.
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Life isn't balanced. Video games aren't either. The only way you are going to have a perfect balance between classes is if you gave everyone the exact same skills and attributes - which would make for an extremely boring game.

Either you are having fun playing your class or you aren't. That's what matters. Everyone doesn't need to have the same DPS for example else the game is broken or this class or that class is OP. I have seen this mentality obliterate the gameplay on so many other games that I am becoming frustrated with it.

I understand certain classes may have real problems. And pointing them out or asking the developers to fix them is perfectly understandable. But please stop with this balance nonsense. Because the whole point of different classes is to provide imbalances between different characters so the player can use these strengths to their advantage.

And while we're at it, bring back pre-Skyrim character attributes, gain SP through skill usage and level by acquiring them. Stat increase, based on three most used/highest skill-lines, should be static, however, otherwise we'd end up with a way too big gap between players and some seriously gimped characters.

Urmi wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

I don't understand how removing classes would add more variety to the game. Unless you mean to say just make all of the class skill lines available to everyone? I'm not sure.

Anyway - to those complaining about balance. I am growing tired of this word.
-
Life isn't balanced. Video games aren't either. The only way you are going to have a perfect balance between classes is if you gave everyone the exact same skills and attributes - which would make for an extremely boring game.

Either you are having fun playing your class or you aren't. That's what matters. Everyone doesn't need to have the same DPS for example else the game is broken or this class or that class is OP. I have seen this mentality obliterate the gameplay on so many games other games that I am becoming frustrated with it.

I understand certain classes may have real problems. And pointing them out or asking the developers to fix them is perfectly understandable. But please stop with this balance nonsense. Because the whole point of different classes is to provide imbalances between different characters so the player can use these strengths to their advantage.

Yes take out the classes and make everything readily available for anyone to pick and choose as they please and eventually maybe add more skill lines in the future

It's an interesting idea.

Perhaps they could give each class their own guild and allow players to join them in order to make those skill lines available.

Do you want to know what would happen in the classless system? Read:
1. find the most effective build
2. post it somewhere
3. let everyone respec to it
4. complain about everyone using one OP build
5. build gets nerfed to the ground
6. jump back to point 1

The best thing they can do is to leave classes that WORK (DK and largerly Sorc) and BUFF UP / REWORK those that do NOT work. Instead of taking the Blizzard's way of nerfing the working class because there is one broken class that performs worse than standard.

In short, UPGRADE TO A STANDARD, DON'T NERF TILL EVERYONE IS AS WEAK AS THE WEAKEST ONE.


Also...
When making fixes, don't break 10 other things... game's quality is slowly decaying every patch and stealth patch (aka maintenance)

david271749 wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

Urmi wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

I don't understand how removing classes would add more variety to the game. Unless you mean to say just make all of the class skill lines available to everyone? I'm not sure.

Anyway - to those complaining about balance. I am growing tired of this word.
-
Life isn't balanced. Video games aren't either. The only way you are going to have a perfect balance between classes is if you gave everyone the exact same skills and attributes - which would make for an extremely boring game.

Either you are having fun playing your class or you aren't. That's what matters. Everyone doesn't need to have the same DPS for example else the game is broken or this class or that class is OP. I have seen this mentality obliterate the gameplay on so many games other games that I am becoming frustrated with it.

I understand certain classes may have real problems. And pointing them out or asking the developers to fix them is perfectly understandable. But please stop with this balance nonsense. Because the whole point of different classes is to provide imbalances between different characters so the player can use these strengths to their advantage.

Yes take out the classes and make everything readily available for anyone to pick and choose as they please and eventually maybe add more skill lines in the future

It's an interesting idea.

Perhaps they could give each class their own guild and allow players to join them in order to make those skill lines available.

That would be a cool idea. You'd be limited to five in game guilds and five player guilds. That way, you couldn't grab all the passives available.

I don't agree on the limit of 5 in game guilds limit lol then you're still limited

Rev Rielle wrote: »

KitLightning wrote: »

The concept of ESO was: Play as any class you want, not Play as classsless you want.

This. So much this.
It won't happen. It shouldn't happen. The system's fine the way it is, there is already so much freedom. We don't need anymore.

Sounds kind of like a crappy opinion honestly lol , I'm pretty sure that not how everyone feels

Urmi wrote: »

david271749 wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

Urmi wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

I don't understand how removing classes would add more variety to the game. Unless you mean to say just make all of the class skill lines available to everyone? I'm not sure.

Anyway - to those complaining about balance. I am growing tired of this word.
-
Life isn't balanced. Video games aren't either. The only way you are going to have a perfect balance between classes is if you gave everyone the exact same skills and attributes - which would make for an extremely boring game.

Either you are having fun playing your class or you aren't. That's what matters. Everyone doesn't need to have the same DPS for example else the game is broken or this class or that class is OP. I have seen this mentality obliterate the gameplay on so many games other games that I am becoming frustrated with it.

I understand certain classes may have real problems. And pointing them out or asking the developers to fix them is perfectly understandable. But please stop with this balance nonsense. Because the whole point of different classes is to provide imbalances between different characters so the player can use these strengths to their advantage.

Yes take out the classes and make everything readily available for anyone to pick and choose as they please and eventually maybe add more skill lines in the future

It's an interesting idea.

Perhaps they could give each class their own guild and allow players to join them in order to make those skill lines available.

That would be a cool idea. You'd be limited to five in game guilds and five player guilds. That way, you couldn't grab all the passives available.

I don't agree on the limit of 5 in game guilds limit lol then you're still limited

So, where do you draw the line? Should we get more ability slots and bars too? Should we not have skill points at all and just have access to everything? What is your idea of a perfect character system?

Tannakaobi wrote: »

If you remove the classes everyone becomes the same min/max character. PVP would be ruined further.

Not really , the game already kinda has a balance , its the amount of Magicka/Health/Stamina , then on top of that it can be balanced further , and ! There are already people doing the Min/Max so whats the difference ?