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Should clasess be taken out in the near future ?
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stryderzz✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)p.hurst1b16_ESO wrote: »Add a new class once every couple of years. They should add a class that relies on Stamina.
i don't want to play wow, i'd be playing it if i did :"P
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Maverick827✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)I voted yes because, conceptually, I like the idea. I don't see it realistically happening, however.
If this game didn't have the mega server, I'd say that the best solution would be to implement a Classless Ruleset server, so that balance on the "main" servers is preserved for those that care.0 -
Gwarok✭✭✭No I don't want ZOS to take out classes (I want to keep classes as they are)If they took away classes, then how would people be able to complain about who's OP when we'll all be the same class?
Unhappy gamers want/need to be happy being unhappy; or is it happy gamers need/want to be unhappy being happy....
Dagnabbit! Now I'm all confused.
Edited by Gwarok on May 28, 2014 11:55AM"Strive for balance of all things. When the scales tip to one side or the other, someone or somethings gets short-changed. When someone gets short-changed, unpredictability and strife unbalance the world around us...To achieve freedom from greed, from want, and from strife, all parties in any exchange MUST find balance." -House Hlaalu's Philosophy of Trade
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Crisscross✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)
I agree with you it would be great to have no classes and freedom.theres already flavors of the month and OP classes it happens all the time...(WoW)
people already reroll and play the OP classes i've seen plenty of posts confirming it on here (and um EVERY MMO IN EXISTENCE)
either way they are going to be balancing OP skills, theres really no difference between having classes and no classes in this aspect and if it does make it slightly easier, so what? we PAY THEM, this is their JOB their WORK it is not FUN FUN EASY NO STRESS TIME
all your doing is limiting player char variety by keeping classes
But you will have to find a mmo without pvp.
EVE is practically 100% PVP driven. Ultima Online had one of, if not THE most, brutal and rampant PVP systems ever seen.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Btw all MMOs are balancing nightmares, whether you have classes or not.3 -
david271749✭✭✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)*bump* let the players decide i say
The forum does not mean all of the players. I think it's mostly pissed off players and fans here. I don't think Zenimax actually gives a damn about any of these polls. Zenimax needs to realease their own official polls and let us vote on features and issues that are important to the game.1 -
Urmi✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)david271749 wrote: »*bump* let the players decide i say
The forum does not mean all of the players. I think it's mostly pissed off players and fans here. I don't think Zenimax actually gives a damn about any of these polls. Zenimax needs to release their own official polls and let us vote on features and issues that are important to the game.
That is exactly what they should do I was about to comment about that , if they made their own polls on the official website like many MMO's do it would be great and plenty of people would see it
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stryderzz✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)david271749 wrote: »*bump* let the players decide i say
The forum does not mean all of the players. I think it's mostly pissed off players and fans here. I don't think Zenimax actually gives a damn about any of these polls. Zenimax needs to realease their own official polls and let us vote on features and issues that are important to the game.
i agree but as a player who wants to see this done i don't have many options and maybe if it got big enough they may take notice (i'm not getting my hopes but still it doesn't hurt to be optimistic) i believe they should totally have their own polls and post them on player emails and their FB page etc to gain notice and get a more accurate poll
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Swordguy✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)classes need to go, for the longevity of this game.IN SOVIET RUSSIA, GUN LOADS YOU!
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david271749✭✭✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)david271749 wrote: »*bump* let the players decide i say
The forum does not mean all of the players. I think it's mostly pissed off players and fans here. I don't think Zenimax actually gives a damn about any of these polls. Zenimax needs to release their own official polls and let us vote on features and issues that are important to the game.
That is exactly what they should do I was about to comment about that , if they made their own polls on the official website like many MMO's do it would be great and plenty of people would see itdavid271749 wrote: »*bump* let the players decide i say
The forum does not mean all of the players. I think it's mostly pissed off players and fans here. I don't think Zenimax actually gives a damn about any of these polls. Zenimax needs to realease their own official polls and let us vote on features and issues that are important to the game.
i agree but as a player who wants to see this done i don't have many options and maybe if it got big enough they may take notice (i'm not getting my hopes but still it doesn't hurt to be optimistic) i believe they should totally have their own polls and post them on player emails and their FB page etc to gain notice and get a more accurate poll
So how would we get them to do this? Create a poll on whether Zenimax should crate their own polls? Lol. We can't PM them. Maybe write a letter? Call them? I'd even be happy with surveys like they had in beta. We wouldn't get to see statistics, but it would be better than some random long ass feedback thread that's dedicated to one topic only.0 -
stryderzz✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)david271749 wrote: »david271749 wrote: »*bump* let the players decide i say
The forum does not mean all of the players. I think it's mostly pissed off players and fans here. I don't think Zenimax actually gives a damn about any of these polls. Zenimax needs to release their own official polls and let us vote on features and issues that are important to the game.
That is exactly what they should do I was about to comment about that , if they made their own polls on the official website like many MMO's do it would be great and plenty of people would see itdavid271749 wrote: »*bump* let the players decide i say
The forum does not mean all of the players. I think it's mostly pissed off players and fans here. I don't think Zenimax actually gives a damn about any of these polls. Zenimax needs to realease their own official polls and let us vote on features and issues that are important to the game.
i agree but as a player who wants to see this done i don't have many options and maybe if it got big enough they may take notice (i'm not getting my hopes but still it doesn't hurt to be optimistic) i believe they should totally have their own polls and post them on player emails and their FB page etc to gain notice and get a more accurate poll
So how would we get them to do this? Create a poll on whether Zenimax should crate their own polls? Lol. We can't PM them. Maybe write a letter? Call them? I'd even be happy with surveys like they had in beta. We wouldn't get to see statistics, but it would be better than some random long ass feedback thread that's dedicated to one topic only.
i'm not really sure, its hard as an individual to get a company to notice you, but maybe a poll will work lol
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Uviryth✭✭✭✭✭No I don't want ZOS to take out classes (I want to keep classes as they are)"I want MORE classes in the future" is missing. I'd vote for that.0 -
Urmi✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)"I want MORE classes in the future" is missing. I'd vote for that.
I was going to say that but my hand slipped and it entered the post and i can't edit it i was also going to add *OTHER* Please comment below but oh well :P lol
Not going to make a new poll haha
Edited by Urmi on May 28, 2014 12:15PM0 -
Stratti✭✭✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)It is a fascinating thing to choose skills across all three and have a class with passives relating to roles and hybrids.
Maybe Z thought of that but thought it was too big a leap. Maybe it would have been . Perhaps they may introduce this down the track who knows?0 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't understand how removing classes would add more variety to the game. Unless you mean to say just make all of the class skill lines available to everyone? I'm not sure.
Anyway - to those complaining about balance. I am growing tired of this word.
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Life isn't balanced. Video games aren't either. The only way you are going to have a perfect balance between classes is if you gave everyone the exact same skills and attributes - which would make for an extremely boring game.
Either you are having fun playing your class or you aren't. That's what matters. Everyone doesn't need to have the same DPS for example else the game is broken or this class or that class is OP. I have seen this mentality obliterate the gameplay on so many other games that I am becoming frustrated with it.
I understand certain classes may have real problems. And pointing them out or asking the developers to fix them is perfectly understandable. But please stop with this balance nonsense. Because the whole point of different classes is to provide imbalances between different characters so the player can use these strengths to their advantage.Edited by Jeremy on May 28, 2014 12:16PM2 -
Urmi✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)I don't understand how removing classes would add more variety to the game. Unless you mean to say just make all of the class skill lines available to everyone? I'm not sure.
Anyway - to those complaining about balance. I am growing tired of this word.
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Life isn't balanced. Video games aren't either. The only way you are going to have a perfect balance between classes is if you gave everyone the exact same skills and attributes - which would make for an extremely boring game.
Either you are having fun playing your class or you aren't. That's what matters. Everyone doesn't need to have the same DPS for example else the game is broken or this class or that class is OP. I have seen this mentality obliterate the gameplay on so many games other games that I am becoming frustrated with it.
I understand certain classes may have real problems. And pointing them out or asking the developers to fix them is perfectly understandable. But please stop with this balance nonsense. Because the whole point of different classes is to provide imbalances between different characters so the player can use these strengths to their advantage.
Yes take out the classes and make everything readily available for anyone to pick and choose as they please and eventually maybe add more skill lines in the future
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Nazon_Katts✭✭✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)And while we're at it, bring back pre-Skyrim character attributes, gain SP through skill usage and level by acquiring them. Stat increase, based on three most used/highest skill-lines, should be static, however, otherwise we'd end up with a way too big gap between players and some seriously gimped characters."You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"0 -
david271749✭✭✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)Nazon_Katts wrote: »And while we're at it, bring back pre-Skyrim character attributes, gain SP through skill usage and level by acquiring them. Stat increase, based on three most used/highest skill-lines, should be static, however, otherwise we'd end up with a way too big gap between players and some seriously gimped characters.
Yeah. Nobody would craft on their main.1 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't understand how removing classes would add more variety to the game. Unless you mean to say just make all of the class skill lines available to everyone? I'm not sure.
Anyway - to those complaining about balance. I am growing tired of this word.
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Life isn't balanced. Video games aren't either. The only way you are going to have a perfect balance between classes is if you gave everyone the exact same skills and attributes - which would make for an extremely boring game.
Either you are having fun playing your class or you aren't. That's what matters. Everyone doesn't need to have the same DPS for example else the game is broken or this class or that class is OP. I have seen this mentality obliterate the gameplay on so many games other games that I am becoming frustrated with it.
I understand certain classes may have real problems. And pointing them out or asking the developers to fix them is perfectly understandable. But please stop with this balance nonsense. Because the whole point of different classes is to provide imbalances between different characters so the player can use these strengths to their advantage.
Yes take out the classes and make everything readily available for anyone to pick and choose as they please and eventually maybe add more skill lines in the future
It's an interesting idea.
Perhaps they could give each class their own guild and allow players to join them in order to make those skill lines available.2 -
david271749✭✭✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)I don't understand how removing classes would add more variety to the game. Unless you mean to say just make all of the class skill lines available to everyone? I'm not sure.
Anyway - to those complaining about balance. I am growing tired of this word.
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Life isn't balanced. Video games aren't either. The only way you are going to have a perfect balance between classes is if you gave everyone the exact same skills and attributes - which would make for an extremely boring game.
Either you are having fun playing your class or you aren't. That's what matters. Everyone doesn't need to have the same DPS for example else the game is broken or this class or that class is OP. I have seen this mentality obliterate the gameplay on so many games other games that I am becoming frustrated with it.
I understand certain classes may have real problems. And pointing them out or asking the developers to fix them is perfectly understandable. But please stop with this balance nonsense. Because the whole point of different classes is to provide imbalances between different characters so the player can use these strengths to their advantage.
Yes take out the classes and make everything readily available for anyone to pick and choose as they please and eventually maybe add more skill lines in the future
It's an interesting idea.
Perhaps they could give each class their own guild and allow players to join them in order to make those skill lines available.
That would be a cool idea. You'd be limited to five in game guilds and five player guilds. That way, you couldn't grab all the passives available.0 -
ArRashid✭✭✭✭No I don't want ZOS to take out classes (I want to keep classes as they are)Do you want to know what would happen in the classless system? Read:
1. find the most effective build
2. post it somewhere
3. let everyone respec to it
4. complain about everyone using one OP build
5. build gets nerfed to the ground
6. jump back to point 1
The best thing they can do is to leave classes that WORK (DK and largerly Sorc) and BUFF UP / REWORK those that do NOT work. Instead of taking the Blizzard's way of nerfing the working class because there is one broken class that performs worse than standard.
In short, UPGRADE TO A STANDARD, DON'T NERF TILL EVERYONE IS AS WEAK AS THE WEAKEST ONE.
Also...
When making fixes, don't break 10 other things... game's quality is slowly decaying every patch and stealth patch (aka maintenance)1 -
Rev Rielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭No I don't want ZOS to take out classes (I want to keep classes as they are)KitLightning wrote: »The concept of ESO was: Play as any class you want, not Play as classsless you want.
This. So much this.
It won't happen. It shouldn't happen. The system's fine the way it is, there is already so much freedom. We don't need anymore.If you can be anything, be kind.1 -
Urmi✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)david271749 wrote: »I don't understand how removing classes would add more variety to the game. Unless you mean to say just make all of the class skill lines available to everyone? I'm not sure.
Anyway - to those complaining about balance. I am growing tired of this word.
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Life isn't balanced. Video games aren't either. The only way you are going to have a perfect balance between classes is if you gave everyone the exact same skills and attributes - which would make for an extremely boring game.
Either you are having fun playing your class or you aren't. That's what matters. Everyone doesn't need to have the same DPS for example else the game is broken or this class or that class is OP. I have seen this mentality obliterate the gameplay on so many games other games that I am becoming frustrated with it.
I understand certain classes may have real problems. And pointing them out or asking the developers to fix them is perfectly understandable. But please stop with this balance nonsense. Because the whole point of different classes is to provide imbalances between different characters so the player can use these strengths to their advantage.
Yes take out the classes and make everything readily available for anyone to pick and choose as they please and eventually maybe add more skill lines in the future
It's an interesting idea.
Perhaps they could give each class their own guild and allow players to join them in order to make those skill lines available.
That would be a cool idea. You'd be limited to five in game guilds and five player guilds. That way, you couldn't grab all the passives available.
I don't agree on the limit of 5 in game guilds limit lol then you're still limited
Edited by Urmi on May 28, 2014 12:47PM0 -
Lodestar✭✭✭✭No I don't want ZOS to take out classes (I want to keep classes as they are)If you had asked me this in development I would have given a different answer. I am saying no now, because I think it is too late with all in place.
So much now would have to be changed if you take them out, I think it would be more trouble than it is worth. I will admit ideally I would sooner not have them at all. And if classes could be taken out without creating so much more work, I would be for it. I just don't think it can be now.0 -
Urmi✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)Rev Rielle wrote: »KitLightning wrote: »The concept of ESO was: Play as any class you want, not Play as classsless you want.
This. So much this.
It won't happen. It shouldn't happen. The system's fine the way it is, there is already so much freedom. We don't need anymore.
Sounds kind of like a crappy opinion honestly lol , I'm pretty sure that not how everyone feels0 -
Tannakaobi✭✭✭✭✭No I don't want ZOS to take out classes (I want to keep classes as they are)If you remove the classes everyone becomes the same min/max character. PVP would be ruined further.0 -
david271749✭✭✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)david271749 wrote: »I don't understand how removing classes would add more variety to the game. Unless you mean to say just make all of the class skill lines available to everyone? I'm not sure.
Anyway - to those complaining about balance. I am growing tired of this word.
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Life isn't balanced. Video games aren't either. The only way you are going to have a perfect balance between classes is if you gave everyone the exact same skills and attributes - which would make for an extremely boring game.
Either you are having fun playing your class or you aren't. That's what matters. Everyone doesn't need to have the same DPS for example else the game is broken or this class or that class is OP. I have seen this mentality obliterate the gameplay on so many games other games that I am becoming frustrated with it.
I understand certain classes may have real problems. And pointing them out or asking the developers to fix them is perfectly understandable. But please stop with this balance nonsense. Because the whole point of different classes is to provide imbalances between different characters so the player can use these strengths to their advantage.
Yes take out the classes and make everything readily available for anyone to pick and choose as they please and eventually maybe add more skill lines in the future
It's an interesting idea.
Perhaps they could give each class their own guild and allow players to join them in order to make those skill lines available.
That would be a cool idea. You'd be limited to five in game guilds and five player guilds. That way, you couldn't grab all the passives available.
I don't agree on the limit of 5 in game guilds limit lol then you're still limited
So, where do you draw the line? Should we get more ability slots and bars too? Should we not have skill points at all and just have access to everything? What is your idea of a perfect character system?0 -
stryderzz✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)Do you want to know what would happen in the classless system? Read:
1. find the most effective build
2. post it somewhere
3. let everyone respec to it
4. complain about everyone using one OP build
5. build gets nerfed to the ground
6. jump back to point 1
The best thing they can do is to leave classes that WORK (DK and largerly Sorc) and BUFF UP / REWORK those that do NOT work. Instead of taking the Blizzard's way of nerfing the working class because there is one broken class that performs worse than standard.
In short, UPGRADE TO A STANDARD, DON'T NERF TILL EVERYONE IS AS WEAK AS THE WEAKEST ONE.
Also...
When making fixes, don't break 10 other things... game's quality is slowly decaying every patch and stealth patch (aka maintenance)
this seems to be the most common reason behind no? as i've said many times..IT ALREADY HAPPENS
all your doing is giving players less versatility
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Urmi✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)Tannakaobi wrote: »If you remove the classes everyone becomes the same min/max character. PVP would be ruined further.
Not really , the game already kinda has a balance , its the amount of Magicka/Health/Stamina , then on top of that it can be balanced further , and ! There are already people doing the Min/Max so whats the difference ?
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david271749✭✭✭✭✭Yes I want classes to be taken out (I want more variety)Tannakaobi wrote: »If you remove the classes everyone becomes the same min/max character. PVP would be ruined further.
Yeah. I haven't done pvp since level 25. It's pretty bogus right now.0
