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This is Unforgiveable. The Problem I have with Events.

  • Tenthirty2
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    Shara_Wynn wrote: »
    Making the player base wait for years so they can complete some event based reward is all part of their "player retention" strategy. :/

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  • SeaGtGruff
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    wolfie1.0. wrote: »
    ghastley wrote: »
    Do these fragments take up inventory space? There are still a lot of fragments that do. Generally ones you won't get a full set of before they stop dropping.

    No they are tracked in collections, so no inventory issues.

    Also, ticket limits need to be increased.

    That explains why I didn't notice a fragment in my inventory. I'll have to check my collections as soon as I log back in.
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  • Aggrovious
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    madman65 wrote: »
    In addition to the Impresario’s offers, her assistant, Philius Dormier, is refreshing their shop with the following morphing fragments in exchange for Event Tickets:

    Unstable Morpholith Fragments
    Deadlands Flint
    Rune-Etched Striker
    Smoldering Bloodgrass Tinder
    Soulfire Dragon Illusion Fragments
    Hallowed Hourglass Basin
    Illuminated Dragon Scroll
    Kvatchian Incense
    Doomchar Plateau Fragments
    Scorching Pillar
    Searing Column
    Molten Key
    Profane Pedestal
    Unholy Tablet
    Sacred Hourglass of Alkosh Fragments
    Engraved Glassblowing Tools
    Hallowed White-Gold Ingot
    Mysterious Time-Lost Sands

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/67351

    This was announced on1/16/2025 all you had to do is go to the news and look.

    When you take a break from the game, you tend to not bother with game news. So returning to see the fragments in the game and I know another event will follow...any reasonable person would assume they can finish fragmentation. Well not with this stupid system. The response to have to follow up with off the game news on top of being an active player destroys the argument of taking a break if you're frustrated with the game. If I was active this year, this wouldn't have been an issue. I get punished for not being active while taking a break.
    Edited by Aggrovious on April 4, 2025 12:36AM
    Making a game fun should be a priority. Making a game balanced should not come at the expense of fun.
  • SeaGtGruff
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    wolfie1.0. wrote: »
    ghastley wrote: »
    Do these fragments take up inventory space? There are still a lot of fragments that do. Generally ones you won't get a full set of before they stop dropping.

    No they are tracked in collections, so no inventory issues.

    Also, ticket limits need to be increased.

    That explains why I didn't notice a fragment in my inventory. I'll have to check my collections as soon as I log back in.

    Oh, wait-- the Jubilee mount is not new, is it? It's the same one as last year. I've already acquired it, so either I'm no longer getting fragments for it, or they just evaporate when they go into my collections.
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  • DenverRalphy
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    Aggrovious wrote: »
    madman65 wrote: »
    In addition to the Impresario’s offers, her assistant, Philius Dormier, is refreshing their shop with the following morphing fragments in exchange for Event Tickets:

    Unstable Morpholith Fragments
    Deadlands Flint
    Rune-Etched Striker
    Smoldering Bloodgrass Tinder
    Soulfire Dragon Illusion Fragments
    Hallowed Hourglass Basin
    Illuminated Dragon Scroll
    Kvatchian Incense
    Doomchar Plateau Fragments
    Scorching Pillar
    Searing Column
    Molten Key
    Profane Pedestal
    Unholy Tablet
    Sacred Hourglass of Alkosh Fragments
    Engraved Glassblowing Tools
    Hallowed White-Gold Ingot
    Mysterious Time-Lost Sands

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/67351

    This was announced on1/16/2025 all you had to do is go to the news and look.

    When you take a break from the game, you tend to not bother with game news. So returning to see the fragments in the game and I know another event will follow...any reasonable person would assume they can finish fragmentation. Well not with this stupid system. The response to have to follow up with off the game news on top of being an active player destroys the argument of taking a break if you're frustrated with the game. If I was active this year, this wouldn't have been an issue. I get punished for not being active while taking a break.

    By that same line of logic.. If you're already aware that it would obviously take multiple events to complete, then it stands to reason you'd know to look into how far into the availability cycle you're in and whether completing it is a viable option.

    Because the game isn't going to stop moving along while you're on hiatus. It's not like the game will pause progression until you come back.
    Edited by DenverRalphy on April 4, 2025 1:05AM
  • madman65
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    I do know that recently ESO put the Antiquarian House on the Crown store, they might do the Doomchar the same.
  • MasterSpatula
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    I'd be more upset about the current item that you can't possibly get enough through in game activity to earn, honestly.
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  • DenverRalphy
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    I'd be more upset about the current item that you can't possibly get enough through in game activity to earn, honestly.

    What current item would that be?
  • Shara_Wynn
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    wolfie1.0. wrote: »
    ghastley wrote: »
    Do these fragments take up inventory space? There are still a lot of fragments that do. Generally ones you won't get a full set of before they stop dropping.

    No they are tracked in collections, so no inventory issues.

    Also, ticket limits need to be increased.

    That explains why I didn't notice a fragment in my inventory. I'll have to check my collections as soon as I log back in.

    Oh, wait-- the Jubilee mount is not new, is it? It's the same one as last year. I've already acquired it, so either I'm no longer getting fragments for it, or they just evaporate when they go into my collections.

    I haven't gotten any fragments either but I assumed it was the same one as last year. Many didn't get the mount, because they didn't realize that you would have to buy a further 5 fragments with event tickets and so missed out. I'm guessing they've brought the same mount back this year to give those folks a chance to complete the reward. Likewise with the replica's for the staffs, sword and helmet.
    Edited by Shara_Wynn on April 4, 2025 9:42AM
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  • Juomuuri
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    I used my Pan-Tamriel tickets to buy Doomchar Plateau fragments, and I think I did that also with Mayhem? That's how I completed the collection. There's nothing I'd wanna buy from Philius during Jubilee so I'll need to choose something to sink my tickets into since we can't hold onto more than 12. : ))))) Yeah I'm gonna get the two new fragments but I already have one of them and am at 4/12 tickets atm...
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  • Calastir
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  • Aggrovious
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    Aggrovious wrote: »
    madman65 wrote: »
    In addition to the Impresario’s offers, her assistant, Philius Dormier, is refreshing their shop with the following morphing fragments in exchange for Event Tickets:

    Unstable Morpholith Fragments
    Deadlands Flint
    Rune-Etched Striker
    Smoldering Bloodgrass Tinder
    Soulfire Dragon Illusion Fragments
    Hallowed Hourglass Basin
    Illuminated Dragon Scroll
    Kvatchian Incense
    Doomchar Plateau Fragments
    Scorching Pillar
    Searing Column
    Molten Key
    Profane Pedestal
    Unholy Tablet
    Sacred Hourglass of Alkosh Fragments
    Engraved Glassblowing Tools
    Hallowed White-Gold Ingot
    Mysterious Time-Lost Sands

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/67351

    This was announced on1/16/2025 all you had to do is go to the news and look.

    When you take a break from the game, you tend to not bother with game news. So returning to see the fragments in the game and I know another event will follow...any reasonable person would assume they can finish fragmentation. Well not with this stupid system. The response to have to follow up with off the game news on top of being an active player destroys the argument of taking a break if you're frustrated with the game. If I was active this year, this wouldn't have been an issue. I get punished for not being active while taking a break.

    By that same line of logic.. If you're already aware that it would obviously take multiple events to complete, then it stands to reason you'd know to look into how far into the availability cycle you're in and whether completing it is a viable option.

    Because the game isn't going to stop moving along while you're on hiatus. It's not like the game will pause progression until you come back.

    When you take a break for months, you don't care. You come back to an event and see the fragments, okay great. You see another event start the next day and anyone would think it would extend since it cost 50 tickets.

    But continue to defend this terrible practice.
    Making a game fun should be a priority. Making a game balanced should not come at the expense of fun.
  • Aggrovious
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    Calastir wrote: »
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    How can anyone collect enough fragments if they didn't play the previous event? How can anyone accept this game design when another event started a day after Jester?
    Making a game fun should be a priority. Making a game balanced should not come at the expense of fun.
  • Grizzbeorn
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    So it's ZOS's fault that you took a months-long break?
    What were they supposed to do, put everything on hold until you decided to return?

    Edited by Grizzbeorn on April 4, 2025 1:41PM
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    • Aggrovious
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      Grizzbeorn wrote: »
      So it's ZOS's fault that you took a months-long break?
      What were they supposed to do, put everything on hold until you decided to return?

      The problem is this. I know its hard to see things differently but here we go...

      I come back for the Jester event. Awesome, I see the house I have wanted forever available to purchase via tickets.

      I purchase said fragments while knowing the event will end and Jubilee will happen a day later.

      I log in to find the fragments no longer for sale and will return god knows when. The house could still have been for sale easily, but it was not.

      Tell me how that makes sense!? 1 day apart and two different events but no house to buy. .

      Screw myself, what about new players? How is this fair for your average player to get screwed like this? You can scroll up and see that this happened to players. Its ALL of OUR faults because we didn't read up on how long the fragmentations will be out even though an event will follow it a day later? So its not ZOS fault for failing to put text IN THE GAME stating how long it will be available?





      Making a game fun should be a priority. Making a game balanced should not come at the expense of fun.
    • wolfie1.0.
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      I'd be more upset about the current item that you can't possibly get enough through in game activity to earn, honestly.

      The assistant has quarterly offerings. You can get it. You will likely need a second event to do it. And there should be another event this quarter
    • cozmic72
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      Frustrating to see they’re punishing loyal players who collected the horse fragments last year by removing them from the golden reward box without adding any compensation.
    • magnusthorek
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      Tickets limit should be removed or, perhaps, increased considerably.

      Also, perhaps, remove the necessity of a base stuff to be merged with (e.g. Vanity Pets). This not only doesn't make much logical sense — how a Pet becomes a house, a costume, etc.? — but makes it hard to keep track and/or acquire everything needed to get one big thing without sacrificing some other, newer thing, if you happen to be late to the party.

      See, I returned from a health-related 5y break one year after Grand Psijic Villa was given to player base (or so I heard). Because of this hiatus, even though I bought some tickets since then, not only I missed a few year-exclusives, but I'm STILL pursuing the Indriks collection!
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    • DenverRalphy
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      cozmic72 wrote: »
      Frustrating to see they’re punishing loyal players who collected the horse fragments last year by removing them from the golden reward box without adding any compensation.

      Huh? The same horse from last year is back this year. And the same fragments are dropping. As well you can buy them for 3 tickets a piece.
    • Spacefish2323
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      Tickets limit should be removed or, perhaps, increased considerably.

      Also, perhaps, remove the necessity of a base stuff to be merged with (e.g. Vanity Pets). This not only doesn't make much logical sense — how a Pet becomes a house, a costume, etc.? — but makes it hard to keep track and/or acquire everything needed to get one big thing without sacrificing some other, newer thing, if you happen to be late to the party.

      See, I returned from a health-related 5y break one year after Grand Psijic Villa was given to player base (or so I heard). Because of this hiatus, even though I bought some tickets since then, not only I missed a few year-exclusives, but I'm STILL pursuing the Indriks collection!

      Totally agree with this except in the case of the Indriks where the baby one grows into the adult versions, that makes sense. Otherwise its just an absurb and confusing convolution to obscure the grind. Just make the items costs more tickets.
    • spartaxoxo
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      Aggrovious wrote: »
      Aggrovious wrote: »
      madman65 wrote: »
      In addition to the Impresario’s offers, her assistant, Philius Dormier, is refreshing their shop with the following morphing fragments in exchange for Event Tickets:

      Unstable Morpholith Fragments
      Deadlands Flint
      Rune-Etched Striker
      Smoldering Bloodgrass Tinder
      Soulfire Dragon Illusion Fragments
      Hallowed Hourglass Basin
      Illuminated Dragon Scroll
      Kvatchian Incense
      Doomchar Plateau Fragments
      Scorching Pillar
      Searing Column
      Molten Key
      Profane Pedestal
      Unholy Tablet
      Sacred Hourglass of Alkosh Fragments
      Engraved Glassblowing Tools
      Hallowed White-Gold Ingot
      Mysterious Time-Lost Sands

      https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/67351

      This was announced on1/16/2025 all you had to do is go to the news and look.

      When you take a break from the game, you tend to not bother with game news. So returning to see the fragments in the game and I know another event will follow...any reasonable person would assume they can finish fragmentation. Well not with this stupid system. The response to have to follow up with off the game news on top of being an active player destroys the argument of taking a break if you're frustrated with the game. If I was active this year, this wouldn't have been an issue. I get punished for not being active while taking a break.

      By that same line of logic.. If you're already aware that it would obviously take multiple events to complete, then it stands to reason you'd know to look into how far into the availability cycle you're in and whether completing it is a viable option.

      Because the game isn't going to stop moving along while you're on hiatus. It's not like the game will pause progression until you come back.

      When you take a break for months, you don't care. You come back to an event and see the fragments, okay great. You see another event start the next day and anyone would think it would extend since it cost 50 tickets.

      But continue to defend this terrible practice.

      Why would you think it would extend for that reason? That doesn't make sense. The collecting didn't start when you noticed. It started while you were gone. A new event would mean new stuff. So, you should look at the news page to see what the new stuff is going to be. I understand the dislike of FOMO. But event collectibles being something you get during the events they are tied to makes sense. At least you can probably get it again next year.
      Edited by spartaxoxo on April 4, 2025 10:53PM
    • cozmic72
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      cozmic72 wrote: »
      Frustrating to see they’re punishing loyal players who collected the horse fragments last year by removing them from the golden reward box without adding any compensation.

      Huh? The same horse from last year is back this year. And the same fragments are dropping. As well you can buy them for 3 tickets a piece.

      Yes I have the horse from last year so I don’t get fragments I can share with others or some other reward. I get nothing.
    • Ishtarknows
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      cozmic72 wrote: »
      cozmic72 wrote: »
      Frustrating to see they’re punishing loyal players who collected the horse fragments last year by removing them from the golden reward box without adding any compensation.

      Huh? The same horse from last year is back this year. And the same fragments are dropping. As well you can buy them for 3 tickets a piece.

      Yes I have the horse from last year so I don’t get fragments I can share with others or some other reward. I get nothing.

      Weren't the fragments bound anyway last year, so you'd not be able to share them anyway.
    • magnusthorek
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      Totally agree with this except in the case of the Indriks where the baby one grows into the adult versions, that makes sense. Otherwise its just an absurb and confusing convolution to obscure the grind. Just make the items costs more tickets.
      Indeed, Indriks do make sense, but everything else comes straight outta “Dude, where's my car?” :lol:

      But, no, please, don't make items cost more tickets. It's already a chore to get them as they are now >.<
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      I'm quite good at genetics (as a subset of biology) because I am an expert (which I know is a tautology).
      My xenoscience studies range from urban to agrarian, I am the very model of a Scientist Salarian.
    • Fischblut
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      I would love if event tickets had no limit in our storage, but I see no problems with events otherwise.

      In other game I play, you need to participate in the same event for few years just to obtain a full cosmetic set of armor (you are limited for just a few pieces each year, and they are bound).

      In ESO you can buy all new event items (and more) each time, old items are cheap in Guild Traders and/or offered by Impressario's Assistant. The only meaningful event reward is Cake memento - unique to each passing year :)
      Even the Jubilee mount, which sounded like it was supposed to be one-time offering celebrating the 10 years milestone, returns now again. If I knew that it would return, I would not feel so pressed to spend my tickets on missing fragments previous time :D
    • BretonMage
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      Fischblut wrote: »
      I would love if event tickets had no limit in our storage, but I see no problems with events otherwise.

      I agree that this is hands down the biggest issue with events. People have been asking for ticket limits to be increased for years.
    • scrappy1342
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      this is the opposite of FOMO. this is a reward from a few years back that they decided to bring back so more ppl could possibly get it. this is not something they have done in the past. when things were gone, they were gone. now they are working them in seasonally. they will be back again
    • scrappy1342
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      cozmic72 wrote: »
      Frustrating to see they’re punishing loyal players who collected the horse fragments last year by removing them from the golden reward box without adding any compensation.

      Huh? The same horse from last year is back this year. And the same fragments are dropping. As well you can buy them for 3 tickets a piece.

      they aren't dropping at all if you have the horse already. so there's some lost gold there that could have been made from selling the fragments. but i'm fairly certain the prices would drop pretty quick with how many ppl already have it and would not need the 20 fragments. it's a lot to flood the market with (however it's fun to save up things like that in the guild bank to give to new players). or maybe the drop rate takes a nose dive if you already have it and is not the same one-per-day that it was if you didn't?
    • DenverRalphy
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      cozmic72 wrote: »
      cozmic72 wrote: »
      Frustrating to see they’re punishing loyal players who collected the horse fragments last year by removing them from the golden reward box without adding any compensation.

      Huh? The same horse from last year is back this year. And the same fragments are dropping. As well you can buy them for 3 tickets a piece.

      Yes I have the horse from last year so I don’t get fragments I can share with others or some other reward. I get nothing.

      cozmic72 wrote: »
      Frustrating to see they’re punishing loyal players who collected the horse fragments last year by removing them from the golden reward box without adding any compensation.

      Huh? The same horse from last year is back this year. And the same fragments are dropping. As well you can buy them for 3 tickets a piece.

      they aren't dropping at all if you have the horse already. so there's some lost gold there that could have been made from selling the fragments. but i'm fairly certain the prices would drop pretty quick with how many ppl already have it and would not need the 20 fragments. it's a lot to flood the market with (however it's fun to save up things like that in the guild bank to give to new players). or maybe the drop rate takes a nose dive if you already have it and is not the same one-per-day that it was if you didn't?

      Why would you expect to get the fragments if you already have the mount? The fragments weren't tradable or saleable anyway. So what loss?
      Edited by DenverRalphy on April 6, 2025 2:05AM
    • Kappachi
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      BretonMage wrote: »
      Fischblut wrote: »
      I would love if event tickets had no limit in our storage, but I see no problems with events otherwise.

      I agree that this is hands down the biggest issue with events. People have been asking for ticket limits to be increased for years.

      the issue is it'd discourage actually doing the event content if you could stockpile tickets. the cap as it makes sense given that the most expensive items are 10-15 tickets. it makes the game alive when people have to participate in event activities.
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