Example of this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/617081264150806607/1049345645917524018/zos.mp4

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for sending this over! Could you try enabling the in-game Scrolling Combat Text to confirm if you are seeing any blocked damage or not? Just trying to eliminate the possibility of this being an animation issue.

I'll do that. But I saw that I had stamina recovery + I didn't have any speed penalty. I'll record it again when it happens.

We had this issue day 1 on console. You can press L2 all day and never be blocking, which isn't ideal for most content, especially on a tank. We tried everything else to try to fix it, the only way to fix it is to leave instance, and there's no way to tell when it strike. Now we do block checks before we start content, and sometimes half way through content

@ZOS_GinaBruno This video has some additional details clarifying the nature of this bug:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo3r7htWAx8

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

JN_Slevin wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno any news on a hot fix??

We're still trying to pinpoint what exactly is going on. Given this is supposedly only happening in certain instances and there's no known way to reproduce it, it's been tricky to figure out. We've been investigating all morning though and will continue to do so. In the meantime, if anyone is in-game on PC and runs into this issue, please stay put and let us know.

Would logs help you in an instance where it was happening? I dont exactly know when it happened but i logged the whole run.

Couldn't hurt. Could you try DMing them to me?

Done.

What is going on with the QA? Did the entire department get shifted to working on the new IP?

How is it that fixing the perma heavy bug causes the block drop bug, we were forced to wait a month for a fix to that, only to have the fix cause another gamebreaking block bug?

Why aren't these fixes being properly tested?

What happened to @ZOS_RichLambert 's promise to "do better" with patches post-firesong release?

definitelygee wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Hello. I have confirmed this bug. Here are some things I have found to make this 100% reproducible each time.

-Go into vKA trial
-Have all gear equipped sword and board front bar ice staff back bar
-Sheathe your weapons on your s&b bar and start spamming bar swap
-If it doesnt work on the first try, then try a few more times and it happens for sure
-Try blocking
-Block doesnt show up and you no longer have the ability to block and you cannot block any incoming damage regardless of bar
-Leave the trial instance
-Block is now back until you try this again in a tril

I dont know if this is the ONLY use case with vKA and sword and shield etc. But this will help you replicate and debug

Reproduced this in the Leyawiin bank too, lol.

But can't reproduce it in my house & in the bank again.

(I am Debstrix in game. Would love to change my name here too.)

definitelygee wrote: »

I dont know if this is the ONLY use case with vKA and sword and shield etc. But this will help you replicate and debug

Just for clarity sake, this happens with all weapons (and no weapons). Seems to happen in most instances, though haven't been able to reproduce it in Fungal Grotto 1 or Vvardenfell I have reproduced it in instances such as Crypt of Hearts I and II, The Dread Cellar, and Rockgrove, among others, (difficulty doesn't matter, either). The steps are reliable.

Additionally, I reproduced this in Blackwood, teleported into Rockgrove, and it was still bugged.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Troodon80 wrote: »

definitelygee wrote: »

I dont know if this is the ONLY use case with vKA and sword and shield etc. But this will help you replicate and debug

Just for clarity sake, this happens with all weapons (and no weapons). Seems to happen in most instances, though haven't been able to reproduce it in Fungal Grotto 1 or Vvardenfell I have reproduced it in instances such as Crypt of Hearts I and II, The Dread Cellar, and Rockgrove, among others, (difficulty doesn't matter, either). The steps are reliable.

Additionally, I reproduced this in Blackwood, teleported into Rockgrove, and it was still bugged.

Are you still in-game with this happening?

Yes. I'm just teleporting in and out to test various instances.

I've also tried all the usual things which would usually fix issues like this, such as unequipping weapons, completely unequipping gear, dodge rolling, heavy attacking, opening the crown store, viewing a pet, equipping a polymorph, equipping and unequipping a hat, etc. The only fix seems to be porting to a completely different instance. Even teleporting to and from instances where it was already bugged -- e.g. from Blackwood to Rockgrove with no detours -- while sometimes works, isn't guaranteed to fix the block issue as I've had it twice now where it didn't fix.

It seems to simply be the act of sheathing and immediately bar swapping. Seems like it can happen in any zone.

EDIT: I can confirm it. First tries at vRG nothing but then i vent to vKA and bam block don't work at first try.

was in vCoA 2, for me blocking was normal for the first half and couldnt block after second boss,
tank had the problem at the first boss, relogged and then it was fine for the rest, for him

Our DB team has been having this problem since the patch hit console. It's mostly been our main tank who gets it, but we could barely go a run without him getting it. It got so bad that he canceled trials for all 3 teams in our guild until the patch tomorrow night. By the sounds of this thread, it's unlikely to be fixed then. The roll dodge/bash bug is manageable enough, just a minor annoyance, really. This "new" block bag makes running trifectas virtually futile, and all 3 of our raid groups are now in different trifecta progs. The other team I'm on is in a TTT prog, and it keeps happening during the triplets fight in Halls.

MovieGuru83 wrote: »

Our DB team has been having this problem since the patch hit console. It's mostly been our main tank who gets it, but we could barely go a run without him getting it. It got so bad that he canceled trials for all 3 teams in our guild until the patch tomorrow night. By the sounds of this thread, it's unlikely to be fixed then. The roll dodge/bash bug is manageable enough, just a minor annoyance, really. This "new" block bag makes running trifectas virtually futile, and all 3 of our raid groups are now in different trifecta progs. The other team I'm on is in a TTT prog, and it keeps happening during the triplets fight in Halls.

Based on what I've seen elsewhere, it looks like console has had this bug for a while.

Why did it not get more attention?