MashmalloMan wrote: »Agreed, it's funny they reference it being a stamina whip while it costing magicka..
But hey, we're not on the PTS yet, maybe they didn't mention the cost dynamically scales too? (Doubt it).
MashmalloMan wrote: »On another note, a magicka cost sounds like a massive sustain buff if a Stam DK can manage it.. Thats like 6-8 casts every 14s at 2300 magicka? A drain of 1300 magicka a second, may be possible to handle with some burning procs via combustion, but I doubt you can fit FoO in there too.
redspecter23 wrote: »MashmalloMan wrote: »On another note, a magicka cost sounds like a massive sustain buff if a Stam DK can manage it.. Thats like 6-8 casts every 14s at 2300 magicka? A drain of 1300 magicka a second, may be possible to handle with some burning procs via combustion, but I doubt you can fit FoO in there too.
That's the potential right there. If you can find a way to make it work on your magicka pool without giving up too much, then it's a sustain dream having your spammable not cost any of your primary resource.
MashmalloMan wrote: »On another note, a magicka cost sounds like a massive sustain buff if a Stam DK can manage it.. Thats like 6-8 casts every 14s at 2300 magicka? A drain of 1300 magicka a second, may be possible to handle with some burning procs via combustion, but I doubt you can fit FoO in there too.
A Magicka skill on a dot is fine like soul trap or even blockade, but on a spammable it would seem like you'll never sustain it, ESPECIALLY in PVP.
PvE.. you might : Charged x combustion and battle roar you might actually get away with it using tri stat food and all other stamina skills; too lazy to do the math, will you parse for me. I'm a MagDK
Bl4ckR3alm93 wrote: »A Magicka skill on a dot is fine like soul trap or even blockade, but on a spammable it would seem like you'll never sustain it, ESPECIALLY in PVP.
PvE.. you might : Charged x combustion and battle roar you might actually get away with it using tri stat food and all other stamina skills; too lazy to do the math, will you parse for me. I'm a MagDK
Does charged work on the backbar? Or does it have to be on the front bar
Nebula_DooM wrote: »RIP the Poison Whip dream tho
MashmalloMan wrote: »On another note, a magicka cost sounds like a massive sustain buff if a Stam DK can manage it.. Thats like 6-8 casts every 14s at 2300 magicka? A drain of 1300 magicka a second, may be possible to handle with some burning procs via combustion, but I doubt you can fit FoO in there too.
MashmalloMan wrote: »On another note, a magicka cost sounds like a massive sustain buff if a Stam DK can manage it.. Thats like 6-8 casts every 14s at 2300 magicka? A drain of 1300 magicka a second, may be possible to handle with some burning procs via combustion, but I doubt you can fit FoO in there too.
For pvp i think there are too many interesting magic skills :
- Cauterize, dragon blood ?, fragmented shield
- Petrify ?
- Volatile armor
- Protective scale ?
- Elusive mist or race against time
Nebula_DooM wrote: »RIP the Poison Whip dream tho
MashmalloMan wrote: »Agreed, it's funny they reference it being a stamina whip while it costing magicka..
But hey, we're not on the PTS yet, maybe they didn't mention the cost dynamically scales too? (Doubt it).
We need a stamwhip with a stamina cost, not just scalling with hightest offensive stats.
Only this would "finally end the fiery and age-old debate over getting a Stamina Whip".
Maybe next week ? 🤔
Urzigurumash wrote: »What does it matter if it's Poison Damage in 2021? Ignoring anything about sustain and costs, what? Swamp Raider and Scavenging Demise? It will hit harder against Heavy Armor if it's Flame, also gives us a way to proc Burning. The only other thing I can think of is Poison Whip would hit WW harder, on Flame it will hit Vampires a little harder until Undeath makes it not, but I'm probably missing something.
Also this way we can choose between the different secondary effects of the two morphs, which is nice, rather than just getting 1 Stam morph.
KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »guys pls stop mimimi i tested it yesterday its so easy to sustain this mag skill its easier than if it would cost stamina!
VarisVaris wrote: »KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »guys pls stop mimimi i tested it yesterday its so easy to sustain this mag skill its easier than if it would cost stamina!
In PvE maybe, magdrain on stamdk in pvp is high compared to other classes with igneous, Volatile, cauterize, in those circumstances it's questionable that you can sustain it properly on top of lacking tools like heavy attacks or minor mag steal
KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »VarisVaris wrote: »KhajiitLivesMatter wrote: »guys pls stop mimimi i tested it yesterday its so easy to sustain this mag skill its easier than if it would cost stamina!
In PvE maybe, magdrain on stamdk in pvp is high compared to other classes with igneous, Volatile, cauterize, in those circumstances it's questionable that you can sustain it properly on top of lacking tools like heavy attacks or minor mag steal
i play pvp tested it sustain wise easy