JusticeSouldier wrote: »PhoenixGrey wrote: »Sorcs are definitely not weak in the slightest. So tired of people make this crap up.
Just saw one jumping fool sorc take out 5 people solo in IC. These were not noobs either.
He just jumped around and healed from 25% to 100% 3 or 4 times while we pounded on him.
Then he just one-two shot everyone. My character is at 26.7 K health, 21K phys and 26K spell resist and dead in 2 shots.
Yea they are weak alright......Horse Hockey
Sorc is NOT WEAK and do NOT need more buffs.
This kind of crap has to be nerfed. NO class. spec, build should be able to do that.
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So you got 1vx'ed along with 5 other zerglings . Probably try to not zerg and try to actually PVP.
Mag sorc is the easiest spec to kill this patch.
stam yes, mag tanky af.
6 impen pieces, 26 k health, 21 k phys, resists, 26 k spell resists, alliance rank 33, former emperor.
Yea clearly I never been in pvp before....
Sorcs are definitely not weak in the slightest. So tired of people make this crap up.
Just saw one jumping fool sorc take out 5 people solo in IC. These were not noobs either.
He just jumped around and healed from 25% to 100% 3 or 4 times while we pounded on him.
Then he just one-two shot everyone. My character is at 26.7 K health, 21K phys and 26K spell resist and dead in 2 shots.
Yea they are weak alright......Horse Hockey
Sorc is NOT WEAK and do NOT need more buffs.
This kind of crap has to be nerfed. NO class. spec, build should be able to do that.
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Lord_Sando wrote: »All this talk about stam curse how about stam frag
1. Acknowledge that stamsorc is a real class and rework skills with a stamina variation. Also make working passives for stamina too
2. Make an spammable ability for both resource classes, stamina/magicka
CambionDaemon wrote: »1. Acknowledge that stamsorc is a real class and rework skills with a stamina variation. Also make working passives for stamina too
2. Make an spammable ability for both resource classes, stamina/magicka
No, remake the entire class. All this changing one or two skills at a time cause more problems. The class needs to be reworked from the ground up, just like the other three original classes. The game has changed a lot from its original conception, and that is what the problem with the classes/game is. The new classes work better (as Stamina or Magicka) because they were designed that way, the original four were not.
They said they had plans to look at destroy the identity of all classes eventually. Take it with a grain of salt as much as desired though. The fact they even mentioned handling deleting what little remains of class identity for sorcerers in this next update is pretty huge for me at least.
You guys are crazy if you think Stam Sorc needs any kind of buff. Mag Sorc, or Light Armor users in general, desperately need something to counter damage. There is a CP allocation that directly adds damage against shields, on top of ignored mitigation from spell/phys penetration. There is no answer to this except bastion, which adds to shield size but not strength, and it isn't that much. Maybe fix bastion and it sorts itself out.
JusticeSouldier wrote: »You guys are crazy if you think Stam Sorc needs any kind of buff. Mag Sorc, or Light Armor users in general, desperately need something to counter damage. There is a CP allocation that directly adds damage against shields, on top of ignored mitigation from spell/phys penetration. There is no answer to this except bastion, which adds to shield size but not strength, and it isn't that much. Maybe fix bastion and it sorts itself out.
seems the only thing u play is magsorc and with not a big experience.
try stam dude, compare with another stam classes, fight vs magsorcs and another magclasses, especially magtemplar in this patch.
your reality in eso will change drastically.
JusticeSouldier wrote: »You guys are crazy if you think Stam Sorc needs any kind of buff. Mag Sorc, or Light Armor users in general, desperately need something to counter damage. There is a CP allocation that directly adds damage against shields, on top of ignored mitigation from spell/phys penetration. There is no answer to this except bastion, which adds to shield size but not strength, and it isn't that much. Maybe fix bastion and it sorts itself out.
seems the only thing u play is magsorc and with not a big experience.
try stam dude, compare with another stam classes, fight vs magsorcs and another magclasses, especially magtemplar in this patch.
your reality in eso will change drastically.
Just did, had a couple race change tokens so I tried an orc Stam Sorc out. It has the best PvP utility out of every melee class currently. Alot of passive health regen, unpurgable dot, speed, heals on crits, an 8% Stam buff that buffs health/Stam regen by 20%, dark conversion heal and regen...do you really need me to go on? Tell me another class that is tailor made more then this to be a monster in PvP?
Let me guess, you want implode back so you don't even have to execute.
JusticeSouldier wrote: »You guys are crazy if you think Stam Sorc needs any kind of buff. Mag Sorc, or Light Armor users in general, desperately need something to counter damage. There is a CP allocation that directly adds damage against shields, on top of ignored mitigation from spell/phys penetration. There is no answer to this except bastion, which adds to shield size but not strength, and it isn't that much. Maybe fix bastion and it sorts itself out.
seems the only thing u play is magsorc and with not a big experience.
try stam dude, compare with another stam classes, fight vs magsorcs and another magclasses, especially magtemplar in this patch.
your reality in eso will change drastically.
Just did, had a couple race change tokens so I tried an orc Stam Sorc out. It has the best PvP utility out of every melee class currently. Alot of passive health regen, unpurgable dot, speed, heals on crits, an 8% Stam buff that buffs health/Stam regen by 20%, dark conversion heal and regen...do you really need me to go on? Tell me another class that is tailor made more then this to be a monster in PvP?
Let me guess, you want implode back so you don't even have to execute.
You are right, stam sorc doesn't need a 'buff'. What people are actually asking for is more useful active class abilities. At the moment the only stamina costing skill is hurricane, which offers amazing class identity but that's it.
Stam sorcs have amazing utility with dark deal, surge and streak but they are all so magicka intensive. Maybe a stamina streak could be good?
Bound armament offers great passives but that's the thing, they are passives. It's not fun playing a game with limited bar space and then slotting passive skills. This could be changed to offer a more active direct damage skill as the only class skill stam sorc have that does physical damage is the fire and forget hurricane.
An improvement to streak mechanics, bound armor offering more than passive buffs, and a physical class ultimate is all stam sorc really need. If done right, those changes should add flavour to the class without adding to its damage potential.
JusticeSouldier wrote: »You guys are crazy if you think Stam Sorc needs any kind of buff. Mag Sorc, or Light Armor users in general, desperately need something to counter damage. There is a CP allocation that directly adds damage against shields, on top of ignored mitigation from spell/phys penetration. There is no answer to this except bastion, which adds to shield size but not strength, and it isn't that much. Maybe fix bastion and it sorts itself out.
seems the only thing u play is magsorc and with not a big experience.
try stam dude, compare with another stam classes, fight vs magsorcs and another magclasses, especially magtemplar in this patch.
your reality in eso will change drastically.
Just did, had a couple race change tokens so I tried an orc Stam Sorc out. It has the best PvP utility out of every melee class currently. Alot of passive health regen, unpurgable dot, speed, heals on crits, an 8% Stam buff that buffs health/Stam regen by 20%, dark conversion heal and regen...do you really need me to go on? Tell me another class that is tailor made more then this to be a monster in PvP?
Let me guess, you want implode back so you don't even have to execute.
You are right, stam sorc doesn't need a 'buff'. What people are actually asking for is more useful active class abilities. At the moment the only stamina costing skill is hurricane, which offers amazing class identity but that's it.
Stam sorcs have amazing utility with dark deal, surge and streak but they are all so magicka intensive. Maybe a stamina streak could be good?
Bound armament offers great passives but that's the thing, they are passives. It's not fun playing a game with limited bar space and then slotting passive skills. This could be changed to offer a more active direct damage skill as the only class skill stam sorc have that does physical damage is the fire and forget hurricane.
An improvement to streak mechanics, bound armor offering more than passive buffs, and a physical class ultimate is all stam sorc really need. If done right, those changes should add flavour to the class without adding to its damage potential.
Saril_Durzam wrote: »JusticeSouldier wrote: »You guys are crazy if you think Stam Sorc needs any kind of buff. Mag Sorc, or Light Armor users in general, desperately need something to counter damage. There is a CP allocation that directly adds damage against shields, on top of ignored mitigation from spell/phys penetration. There is no answer to this except bastion, which adds to shield size but not strength, and it isn't that much. Maybe fix bastion and it sorts itself out.
seems the only thing u play is magsorc and with not a big experience.
try stam dude, compare with another stam classes, fight vs magsorcs and another magclasses, especially magtemplar in this patch.
your reality in eso will change drastically.
Just did, had a couple race change tokens so I tried an orc Stam Sorc out. It has the best PvP utility out of every melee class currently. Alot of passive health regen, unpurgable dot, speed, heals on crits, an 8% Stam buff that buffs health/Stam regen by 20%, dark conversion heal and regen...do you really need me to go on? Tell me another class that is tailor made more then this to be a monster in PvP?
Let me guess, you want implode back so you don't even have to execute.
You are right, stam sorc doesn't need a 'buff'. What people are actually asking for is more useful active class abilities. At the moment the only stamina costing skill is hurricane, which offers amazing class identity but that's it.
Stam sorcs have amazing utility with dark deal, surge and streak but they are all so magicka intensive. Maybe a stamina streak could be good?
Bound armament offers great passives but that's the thing, they are passives. It's not fun playing a game with limited bar space and then slotting passive skills. This could be changed to offer a more active direct damage skill as the only class skill stam sorc have that does physical damage is the fire and forget hurricane.
An improvement to streak mechanics, bound armor offering more than passive buffs, and a physical class ultimate is all stam sorc really need. If done right, those changes should add flavour to the class without adding to its damage potential.
Stamsorcs need more group utility. Maybe not in Pvp, but for sure in PvE. There is PvE at this game, even if many players cba, remember...
Give us a spammable vigor and magic. Just that can change everything and give us an identity. All of other classe have a spammable skill. Not the sorcerer.
I like the bound armor of the PTS ! It's a real skill of conjuring now ! But give the same for magical can be cool.
Air Atro too for ulti' can be cool too. In vigor skill.
Change the Crystal Blast who is useless for make a vigor skill.
Maybe change Hauting curse for make it work on vigor too ! Can be cool.
Same for Overloard, right now the skill is scall on star of Staff Expert : Staff Expert Increases your damage done with Light and Heavy Attacks for Destruction and Restoration Staves, as well as Overload by 0%. Not cool, this skill can work on stam too ! I never understand why you give it this on Staff Expert And up this ulti ! or nerf it for give us again the 3rd bar action like before ! *o*
Maybe change Endless Fury for make it like spammanble ?
Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »Give us a spammable vigor and magic. Just that can change everything and give us an identity. All of other classe have a spammable skill. Not the sorcerer.
I like the bound armor of the PTS ! It's a real skill of conjuring now ! But give the same for magical can be cool.
Air Atro too for ulti' can be cool too. In vigor skill.
Change the Crystal Blast who is useless for make a vigor skill.
Maybe change Hauting curse for make it work on vigor too ! Can be cool.
Same for Overloard, right now the skill is scall on star of Staff Expert : Staff Expert Increases your damage done with Light and Heavy Attacks for Destruction and Restoration Staves, as well as Overload by 0%. Not cool, this skill can work on stam too ! I never understand why you give it this on Staff Expert And up this ulti ! or nerf it for give us again the 3rd bar action like before ! *o*
Maybe change Endless Fury for make it like spammanble ?
I’ve always just used Mages fury as a spammable