Update 24 and the Dragonhold DLC Game Pack are both now available for testing on the PTS! Experience the amazing conclusion to the Season of the Dragon saga. You can read the full patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/493609/ 
Maintenance for the week of September 16:
· [COMPLETE] PC/Mac: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – September 17,  4:00AM EDT (8:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
· [COMPLETE] Xbox One: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – September 17,  4:00AM EDT (8:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
· [COMPLETE] PlayStation®4: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – September 17,  4:00AM EDT (8:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
The maintenance is complete, and the PTS is now back online and patch 5.2.0 is available. You can read the full patch notes: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/493609

PTS Update 23 - Feedback Thread for Undaunted Key Updates

ZOS_GinaBruno
ZOS_GinaBruno
Community Manager
This is the official feedback thread for the changes made to Undaunted Keys. We encourage you to purchase some coffers and style pages from the Undaunted Pledge-givers, to see what your Undaunted Keys can do now! PTS specific feedback that the team is looking for includes the following:
  • Did you find these changes to be clear and rewarding?
  • Do you prefer having the Keys as a currency rather than carrying them in your inventory?
  • Is it clear which sets you can receive from the different vendors and coffers?
  • Do you have any other general feedback?
Edited by ZOS_GinaBruno on July 8, 2019 3:39PM
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  • Ahnog
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    Definitely prefer having the keys as a currency.

    I don't know, haven't seen the rewards you can buy yet, but I've been trying for one shoulder for over a year now with no luck. Any cure to that is welcome.
    Edited by Ahnog on July 9, 2019 11:06AM
    Ahnog

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  • Saril_Durzam
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    Great change (the best change actually on this patch). Good job on it. Maybe 5 keys are too much, but it´s fine.
  • Nordic__Knights
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    You guys are all worried about five keys for this or that I have all shoulders I'm worried about the fact that it's 50 keys for one style page to be honest I get my styling Pages as it stands today with the use of maybe five to six Keys tops so now I have to spend 44 more extra to get the same exact thing and then we're talked about how long it takes to get these Keys saved up to 50 and here we are going to have a monthly shoulder Style you can't save 50 in one month
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on July 14, 2019 1:17AM
  • master_vanargand
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    5 keys of 50% drop chance is trash idea.
    It must be a 100% drop chance.
  • Mettaricana
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    This is the official feedback thread for the changes made to Undaunted Keys. We encourage you to purchase some coffers and style pages from the Undaunted Pledge-givers, to see what your Undaunted Keys can do now! PTS specific feedback that the team is looking for includes the following:
    • Did you find these changes to be clear and rewarding?
    • Do you prefer having the Keys as a currency rather than carrying them in your inventory?
    • Is it clear which sets you can receive from the different vendors and coffers?
    • Do you have any other general feedback?

    Can we get an opt out of dlc dungeons for random dungeons no one does them with pugs and more times than not even on normal the pugs can't clear it. Making alot of the key grind and daily rewards a hassel unless you got that one friend who refuses eso plus to tag along.

    Also maybe add more daily pledges maybe have like 4 base game pledges and 2 dlc pledges since we need more keys now for alot of stuff
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  • Kilcosu
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    I once spent 25+ keys to get the right shoulders I needed (not the weight, just any drop of the shoulders)

    I'm excited for this so *statistically* I should be able to get the right shoulders I need in a shorter period of time...

    I say statistically because desire sensor, RNGesus, and I are NOT on good terms LOL
  • mobicera
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    code65536 wrote: »
    I really wish there was more that we could buy with keys. Why not have the Undaunted Quartermaster offer some of that achievement furnishings for keys instead of gold? Why not offer alchemy satchels for keys? Shoulders and style pages seem... rather limited.

    You posted this in another thread a little while ago and the alchemy satchels is such a good idea that I felt the need to chime in again and say yes please!
  • tourerttrwb17_ESO
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Alchemy satchels would be my biggest wish.

    This is an absolutely brilliant idea. A lot more people would start doing pledges. Please dear Santa, make it happen.
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  • Dusk_Coven
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    A dungeon gives ONE key for ONE chance at a shoulder.
    Whereas a dungeon RUN gives you 1-4 Monster Head pieces, depending on how interested the other members are in collecting the Head piece. Players who already have their head piece are likely to just give their drop, so the player trying to get a piece could end up with 4 pieces -- 4 chances at the correct weight, at 100% chance of the correct set type.

    Further consider that a lot of sets are probably not used by players at all.

    PROPOSAL:
    Instead of 5 keys for your choice of 2 pieces, 1 key gives you 4 random pieces to choose from AND your choice of fixing Weight (Heavy/Medium/Light) or Role (Tank/Healer/Stamina DPS/Magicka DPS).
    Also, 1 key can be traded for a transmutation geodes, to help with the trait.
    Edited by Dusk_Coven on August 5, 2019 9:19AM
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Making them a currency is great. More inventory slots are always better.

    5 keys to give you certainty vs. a 1-in-6 chance of getting the pair of dungeons you want most is ridiculously costly. Even at 2 keys I might not take the deal.
  • Darkmage1337
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    5 keys for a 16% chance on the desired shoulder is way too steep of a cost.
    A reduction of the cost from 5 keys to 3 keys would seem fair.

    5 keys: a chance at 2 different shoulder sets, each with 3 different weights, which one cannot change.
    (Trait doesn't matter as much because trait can be changed via Transmutation).

    Let players choose the set or choose the weight; or, simply reduce the cost from 5 keys to 3 keys.
    5 keys for a 16% chance on receiving one's desired shoulder is not just bad RNG, but too expensive per attempt.

    The cost at 5 keys per 16% chance at desired shoulder is too high in comparison to the amount of shoulders sets, weights, and trait combinations, number of player characters, number of set builds per character, etc.

    3 keys per 16% chance seems fair. There are 3 different armor weights, and a 50% chance of receiving the desired shoulder.

    3 armor weights. 3 keys. Please..? @ZOS_GinaBruno
    Edited by Darkmage1337 on August 16, 2019 5:14PM
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  • Grimm13
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    If you want 5 keys with a 50% chance to get a different set, then make a change to how it works. Make it a type of shoulder set change that you apply to a shoulder piece to change it that undaunted set piece that keeps the armor weight, trait and enchantment. So you could take a crafted Light Breton 50 cp160, charged with Magika enchantment, it's still that but adds they undaunted ability of that piece and look or it could start as a overland drop or even a trial drop if you wanted. Whatever it was set wise is overwritten with no going back but you have control on keeping the weight, trait and enchantment.

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  • BR0WN_H0RN3T
    BR0WN_H0RN3T
    Soul Shriven
    Change the 5 keys to 3 keys. That's fair.
  • ethuiliel
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    Keys being a currency is a great change, but I also 100% agree that 5 keys is wayyyy too steep a price for the amount of RNG that's STILL involved. For 5 I would expect to be able to select the set at least, not have a 50% chance of getting trash over and over again. Happened recently to me with the Bloodspawn Shoulders. 30+ keys, 1 BS Shoulder in the wrong weight+trait. Just, no.
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