Macro in Action

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · February 2019

damtotb16_ESO wrote: »

This is a snip from BG PC/EU.
You can see a typical combo execution of this nb doing 3 attacks( Light attack+ surprise attack + Bash) within 0.15 sec on a moving target. Convince me this is not done by 3rd party software. I reported the player to Zenimax but since they did not care to reply me I will post it here
Toughts?

if iam reading the time right on the combat log it is nearly 5 secs and 14 attacks, the global cool down time i time is 0.3 secs so that means with instant cast skills u can get 3 of in less than a sec, the time of the start of the attacks to the end is 4.767 secs, this was simple down to animation cancelling

Royaji · February 2019

KoultouraS wrote: »

Its called key assignment. I found it via Google.
Razer users assign keys on mouse. Keys not being bound on keyboard via a 3rd party software

Does this fall under this TOS guideline?

You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services

Please elaborate if wrong

Also you guys understand that this is one step before actually assigning a macro on mouse button right?

As long as one button equates to one action there can be nothing wrong. Changing keybinds is a basic function available in the game itself.

idk · February 2019

KoultouraS wrote: »

65-70% percent of players play with macro.
The other 30-35% percent of players either think they are noobs and they just lose to "skilled(aka macro) players ,
or do use macro but call it a "skill".

I see people animation canceling in cyrodiil , on the move... going in and out the zerg ball...
they must be having something more than 20 fingers per hand...

This could not be further from the truth and I can tell you do not understand macros because with most players it would be very obvious if they used macros in this game as anything that hinders the next skill from firing causes the character to get hung up in the macro sequence.

Skilled players can do better than a macro. Yes, I know some gankers do use macors because they are only using 2 or 3 skills and have very little variance but a majority of players deal with constantly changing situations that macros cannot handle.

So you can tell yourself most players do use macros, but it is just an excuse. Certainly the use of animation canceling does not mean they are using macros. We just learned how to play.

burglar · February 2019

Syhae wrote: »

Lot of players don't understand global cool down and blame things on macro.

Global cool down is like 1 second (a little over 1 I think? Someone please fact check me if I'm wrong)

In that global CD there are a couple things you can do.

Per global CD you can only use 1 skill. Note I said skill. This doesn't cover light attacking or bashing.
Every global CD you can light attack before using your skill and bash right after it.
Easiest way to do that? Rebind bash to a different button first, I use V.
So when you press a skill, what your fingers should be doing is this : Light Attack(Left Click) Skill(1-5 whatever you bind it to) and bash(V for me if youre bash cancelling your skill).

Anybody can do that without macros. It isn't hard, 3 buttons pressed in sequence.

I get that some people don't really have the time to invest in practicing that, or really care enough to get that down but calling it macros is silly and ignorant, its just a player who knows how to cast skills every GCD and how to light attack weave and bash cancel, it isn't rocket science.

I see 3 Nightblade skills used over 3 seconds in the combat log. With light attacks and bashes mixed in. Please tell me where the macro is?

I have extreme doubts that any human could push two buttons sequentially, .004 seconds apart, not to mention twice in a row, without any variability in their period. I mean, 4 milliseconds is reaaaaallly fast. I mean, just consider that when someone scares you, it takes you 10 milliseconds to react, and jump out of your seat (and that's just your brain starting the process of jumping, really)

Qbiken · February 2019

Light attack + skill + bash doesn´t share a cooldown. You don´t need any kinds of macro to accomplish this. What occurs in the screenshot is animation canceling.

Fur_like_snow · February 2019

I have a razor naga 12 button MMO mouse and I’ve rebound my bash to a single button because the default binding is awful to say the least. Same with double tap to dodge roll I changed that to a single button along with break free. LA, skill bash is so easy I could do it in my sleep with my current button setup. Honestly sounds like some of you in this thread need a real gaming mouse and a few days to relearn the controls.

idk · February 2019

ProbablePaul wrote: »

Syhae wrote: »

Lot of players don't understand global cool down and blame things on macro.

Global cool down is like 1 second (a little over 1 I think? Someone please fact check me if I'm wrong)

In that global CD there are a couple things you can do.

Per global CD you can only use 1 skill. Note I said skill. This doesn't cover light attacking or bashing.
Every global CD you can light attack before using your skill and bash right after it.
Easiest way to do that? Rebind bash to a different button first, I use V.
So when you press a skill, what your fingers should be doing is this : Light Attack(Left Click) Skill(1-5 whatever you bind it to) and bash(V for me if youre bash cancelling your skill).

Anybody can do that without macros. It isn't hard, 3 buttons pressed in sequence.

I get that some people don't really have the time to invest in practicing that, or really care enough to get that down but calling it macros is silly and ignorant, its just a player who knows how to cast skills every GCD and how to light attack weave and bash cancel, it isn't rocket science.

I see 3 Nightblade skills used over 3 seconds in the combat log. With light attacks and bashes mixed in. Please tell me where the macro is?

I have extreme doubts that any human could push two buttons sequentially, .004 seconds apart, not to mention twice in a row, without any variability in their period. I mean, 4 milliseconds is reaaaaallly fast. I mean, just consider that when someone scares you, it takes you 10 milliseconds to react, and jump out of your seat (and that's just your brain starting the process of jumping, really)

Exactly and they cannot and even if they used a macro to do so it would be irrelevant since every skill has a GCD to contend with.

I think people get confused when the server lags and then gives then a few seconds of information all at once. On there end it looks like a player fired a number of skills in a second or two but it is really the information came to their client late and compressed so it does not reflect the actual time that elapsed.

KoultouraS · February 2019

Royaji wrote: »

KoultouraS wrote: »

Its called key assignment. I found it via Google.
Razer users assign keys on mouse. Keys not being bound on keyboard via a 3rd party software

Does this fall under this TOS guideline?

You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services

Please elaborate if wrong

Also you guys understand that this is one step before actually assigning a macro on mouse button right?

As long as one button equates to one action there can be nothing wrong. Changing keybinds is a basic function available in the game itself.

It's basic when u assign it on another key of the keyboard. Having a set of skills on 5mouse buttons is macroing , and also it is not basic nor is it considered ok by TOS because it gives you an unfair advantage over me who doesn't have such a gear . If you consider as macro only a sequence being repeated with one click then you bend what "macro command" is to fit your narrative.

Your mouse buttons are actually macroed to trigger keys 1,2,3 or so, even if there is a 1 button equals one action situation

Mr_Walker · February 2019

idk wrote: »

This could not be further from the truth and I can tell you do not understand macros because with most players it would be very obvious if they used macros in this game as anything that hinders the next skill from firing causes the character to get hung up in the macro sequence.

Unless, of course, if you use a very short macro....

Fur_like_snow · February 2019

It's basic when u assign it on another key of the keyboard. Having a set of skills on 5mouse buttons is macroing , and also it is not basic nor is it considered ok by TOS because it gives you an unfair advantage over me who doesn't have such a gear . If you consider as macro only a sequence being repeated with one click then you bend what "macro command" is to fit your narrative.

Your mouse buttons are actually macroed to trigger keys 1,2,3 or so, even if there is a 1 button equals one action situation

Lmfao. No rebinding a key to a mouse button isn’t macroing. If you’re getting packed up because you won’t spend 50$ on a real gaming mouse and a few days to relearn the controls than it’s a L2P issue on your end.

Bashev · February 2019

Qbiken wrote: »

Light attack + skill + bash doesn´t share a cooldown. You don´t need any kinds of macro to accomplish this. What occurs in the screenshot is animation canceling.

@Qbiken
The skills are by an external software. No chance to submit 2 commands for 0.004 seconds.

idk · February 2019

Mr_Walker wrote: »

idk wrote: »

This could not be further from the truth and I can tell you do not understand macros because with most players it would be very obvious if they used macros in this game as anything that hinders the next skill from firing causes the character to get hung up in the macro sequence.

Unless, of course, if you use a very short macro....

First, if you look at the what I quoted that you edited out the person is suggestion a large majority of players use macros and the minority that does not just dies a lot. Clearly a cop out or they are joking.

Second, it would have to be an extremely short macro because if at any point the skill cannot hit the target the character will get hung up and cannot do anything. That is what we would see often if large numbers of players used macros.

A moderately skilled player can do better without relying on tricks.

KoultouraS · February 2019

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

It's basic when u assign it on another key of the keyboard. Having a set of skills on 5mouse buttons is macroing , and also it is not basic nor is it considered ok by TOS because it gives you an unfair advantage over me who doesn't have such a gear . If you consider as macro only a sequence being repeated with one click then you bend what "macro command" is to fit your narrative.

Your mouse buttons are actually macroed to trigger keys 1,2,3 or so, even if there is a 1 button equals one action situation

Lmfao. No rebinding a key to a mouse button isn’t macroing. If you’re getting packed up because you won’t spend 50$ on a real gaming mouse and a few days to relearn the controls than it’s a L2P issue on your end.

This is what happens when a 3rd party programm decides to "rebind"
Every manufacturer has its own programm (naming it with a fancy name like synapse)
along with an overkill of fuctions/buttons of a mouse , which is lighting up the whole computer room like an '80s disco joint,
but basicaly it's the same procedure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aki5NN9K6Fs

Rebinding is a name (*you lmfao eh... good for u!!!) ...
the action giving a different function on a mouse button is called a macro command mate.
You may not like it, but basic assignment is only assigning the buttons where they supposed to by ZOS.
If binding a key from keyboard on your mouse is a macro (not considered one, but it is one by a definition ), then
ZOS should either allow all macros or none.
Both (single button ones or sequences ) give players unfair advantages.
Calling it another way is not changing anything.
One is using less effort to trigger skills with mouse bound keys than someone who has not done so.

I am going this length as u say because you guys want us to think we are baboons or something
Even if you change assignment on a mouse button the interprocedural action is creating a macro command.

I am not buthurt at all here (as u probably may think---or like to think). As I said:
I already have a macroable mouse. I already stated i have no problem with macros.
I already said i am gonna macro my mouse once i get to know how to do so.
I don't even care about a whole macro sequence being played against me.

There are macros though , and a lot of the L2P heroes here use it although they claim they don't...pfff
Just DON"T pretend you are saints and know nothing about it, or call this thing a "skill"
Calm down.

Bashev · February 2019

idk wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

idk wrote: »

This could not be further from the truth and I can tell you do not understand macros because with most players it would be very obvious if they used macros in this game as anything that hinders the next skill from firing causes the character to get hung up in the macro sequence.

Unless, of course, if you use a very short macro....

First, if you look at the what I quoted that you edited out the person is suggestion a large majority of players use macros and the minority that does not just dies a lot. Clearly a cop out or they are joking.

Second, it would have to be an extremely short macro because if at any point the skill cannot hit the target the character will get hung up and cannot do anything. That is what we would see often if large numbers of players used macros.

A moderately skilled player can do better without relying on tricks.

Actually it is not macro as in other games. Where you make a sequence to cast chain skills with delay of seconds.

The server gives us the chance to queue abilities which will be executed. So you are able to queue light attack and then immediately a skill. The game automatically cancel the light attack animation for you if you do that.

If you have a gaming mouse you can bind each of your skills to a different button, but what else you can do is to add light attack skill before each skill. Then the game-play is super simple. Tons of players does this in ESO and as I said I have seen even build videos where people forget to turn it off.

idk · February 2019

Bashev wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

idk wrote: »

This could not be further from the truth and I can tell you do not understand macros because with most players it would be very obvious if they used macros in this game as anything that hinders the next skill from firing causes the character to get hung up in the macro sequence.

Unless, of course, if you use a very short macro....

First, if you look at the what I quoted that you edited out the person is suggestion a large majority of players use macros and the minority that does not just dies a lot. Clearly a cop out or they are joking.

Second, it would have to be an extremely short macro because if at any point the skill cannot hit the target the character will get hung up and cannot do anything. That is what we would see often if large numbers of players used macros.

A moderately skilled player can do better without relying on tricks.

Actually it is not macro as in other games. Where you make a sequence to cast chain skills with delay of seconds.

The server gives us the chance to queue abilities which will be executed. So you are able to queue light attack and then immediately a skill. The game automatically cancel the light attack animation for you if you do that.

If you have a gaming mouse you can bind each of your skills to a different button, but what else you can do is to add light attack skill before each skill. Then the game-play is super simple. Tons of players does this in ESO and as I said I have seen even build videos where people forget to turn it off.

Simply put you cannot "queue" multiple skills or even a couple. It is common in MMORPGs that one can queue the next skill just before the current one ends. Heck, in FF you can queue the next skill half a second before the current GCD ends.

Further, I have an MMO mouse, 12 buttons on the side, and using that to execute my skills does not constitute a macro. Pressing the "1" Button on my mouse vs the one on my keyboard is the same thing. Being that it is on a different device is irrelevant.

And to my previous and accurate point, even creating a macro that "weaves" the light attack before the skill fires will cause the character to hang up.

That is the way it works in ESO. You can say whatever you want but the statement I have made is very accurate. Even the part that a skill players will do better without the macro.

So I must ask the question, do you use macros? Because you sound like someone who uses them very well or you very much agree with the person I originally quoted that stated this conversation you quoted (remember what you quoted the one person edited out what I quoted so read further back).

Heading out to enjoy the day. I hope people spend more time learning to play the game than trying to learn to play with macros. Those that learn to play the game will make good AP off those who try to macro.

The_Brosteen · February 2019

A light attack + skill + bash combo is very simple to do, no macros necessary. Zos wont look into it because theres nothing to look into.

Kolzki · February 2019

Isn’t this just bash weaving with a little lag desync?

VaranisArano · February 2019

For everyone talking about keybindings on gaming keyboards and mice, here's the thread that discusses that: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1826830/#Comment_1826830

The first response by ZOS_MollyH clarifies that actions are supposed to be performed manually by players, not automated.

ZOS_MollyH's second response is even clearer. "The use of gaming keyboards and mice are not prohibited, but the use of third-party software or other means of creating macros to automate in-game functions is a violation."

So rebinding game functions to your different keys available on your keyboard or mouse is acceptable under the TOS as long as you are still manually performing one action per keypress. Using macros to automate game functions or accomplish multiple actions with one keypress is against the TOS.

danno8 · February 2019

If you go and test the LA->skill-->Bash combo, you will see that the Bash often hits before the skill in the timestamp log. It depends on the skill used and how long the delay is before the damage is actually applied.

Bash is absolutely instant, whereas other skills (like Incap) have a small delay before the damage actually registers in combat logs.

Not all instant cast skills are created equal.

PS, again, if you bothered to go test this stuff, you would see you can easily get a LA->Blood Craze->bash to land within .169 seconds in the combat log (like I just tested myself) just by pressing the three buttons at nearly the same time. The LA-> Bloodcraze part was only .004s apart.

Stop throwing around accusations before you actually test this stuff!

Own · February 2019

This thread is funny. I light attack, surprise attack, bash every burst combo. I even add LA/Bash to back bar buffs when I need to.

How?
Go to your controls and find the "Interrupt" keybind. Bind it to a key near your attacks.

This is the hard part. Left click the mouse to light attack, press an attack skill, press the keybound "Interrupt" key. Do it fast and smooth. Practice on target dummies.

Why does this work?
When you left click the light attack commences almost immediately. If you use a separate finger/hand to press the attack skill and Bash just after the light attack with perfect timing they will all go through at once.

The utter truth is many PvP'ers have been practicing this kind of stuff, progressing daily for 5 years. Good Luck

zaria · February 2019

Sharee wrote: »

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Remember people, ESO is the only online game in existence where it is possible to cheat, but noone actually does!

You heard it here first

On topic: Of couse the picture in the first post is a macro. "But it only shows it once!" - come on, its not like we dont see this happen in cyrodiil every efn day. If it only happened once, he wouldn't even have noticed.

"Super skilled players" who you never saw before even tho you practically live in cyrodiil, landing "light attack+skill+bash" within milliseconds like a clockwork while jumping backwards on rocks. Yeah right.

At least stop the damn denial. It is possible to do this. OF COURSE people are doing it.

Of course it's a macro?
Nah dude..that's animation cancelling.
You're bad at understanding the basic mechanics of this game. Same with the OP.

"Its a macro" and "its animation cancelling" are not mutually exclusive. Its animation cancelling performed by a macro.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Its better to throw out mindless personal attacks than to actually have a point.

Problem is that macros in PvP is an stupid idea. You start the macro you are committed.
it works better in PvE as its more static outside of boss mechanics.
Still it only help bad players, and none will report you for doing 20K dps on boss rater than 15K

Now on an dummy parse you can use an macro to create an baseline or to compare gear or races.
This has the benefit of eliminating parse errors, however you will get stuff like out of resources and mag sorc frag proc.

KoultouraS · February 2019

VaranisArano wrote: »

For everyone talking about keybindings on gaming keyboards and mice, here's the thread that discusses that: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1826830/#Comment_1826830

The first response by ZOS_MollyH clarifies that actions are supposed to be performed manually by players, not automated.

ZOS_MollyH's second response is even clearer. "The use of gaming keyboards and mice are not prohibited, but the use of third-party software or other means of creating macros to automate in-game functions is a violation."

So rebinding game functions to your different keys available on your keyboard or mouse is acceptable under the TOS as long as you are still manually performing one action per keypress. Using macros to automate game functions or accomplish multiple actions with one keypress is against the TOS.

Since this is probably posted as an argument against mine, i d like to answer
I know what ZOS is saying and I understand what u say too.
(However "use of gaming gear" is not actually "programming gaming gear"and when refering to rules ,
precision wording is needed, anyway I don't want to beat this already dead horse anymore).

I said i am going to the aforementioned lengths cuz I need to prove a point.
After a certain rank, which would warrant enough game time to come into some conclusions, one would definitely have a lot to say about macros in PvP.
The ones saying it is impossible or just mocking the ones who claim the same thing I do,
are either in denial, or don't want to admit what is obvious, or -- excuse me-- are already using them.
No need to create a whole sequence, just create 2-3 steps of macro for shields/health
and just press 1-2 for main dps skills . Tadah , there you are.

And before you start the ordinary l2p bashing or gitgud constructive advisory, I am not even mad about,
just stop bullshiting us...

CompM4s · February 2019

The one benefit of playing on consoles.

adeptusminor · February 2019

CompM4s wrote: »

The one benefit of playing on consoles.

Well they have macro controllers for consoles, ya know

ChunkyCat · February 2019

In all fairness to the original OP and his claim of a macro’ing opponent, there was a forum post several days ago showing some fresh Cheat Engine style hacks in Cyrodiil on the PC EU server.

The post disappeared within a couple hours, but the YouTube video showing a dude flying through the air and using a regular jump to scale keep walls is pretty disheartening.

3rd party cheating is definitely occurring again, and aside from the poor folks on the receiving end of it, the real damage from those hacks is making everyone else question whether all of their opponents are using the hacks.

Sharee · February 2019

zaria wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Remember people, ESO is the only online game in existence where it is possible to cheat, but noone actually does!

You heard it here first

On topic: Of couse the picture in the first post is a macro. "But it only shows it once!" - come on, its not like we dont see this happen in cyrodiil every efn day. If it only happened once, he wouldn't even have noticed.

"Super skilled players" who you never saw before even tho you practically live in cyrodiil, landing "light attack+skill+bash" within milliseconds like a clockwork while jumping backwards on rocks. Yeah right.

At least stop the damn denial. It is possible to do this. OF COURSE people are doing it.

Of course it's a macro?
Nah dude..that's animation cancelling.
You're bad at understanding the basic mechanics of this game. Same with the OP.

"Its a macro" and "its animation cancelling" are not mutually exclusive. Its animation cancelling performed by a macro.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Its better to throw out mindless personal attacks than to actually have a point.

Problem is that macros in PvP is an stupid idea. You start the macro you are committed.

No, you are not commited.

We aren't talking about chaining skills together, that would indeed take time to perform and thus make you committed because there is a 1 sec CD between skills.

But we are talking about chaining light attack + skill + bash. That does not take any longer to perform than a simple light attack, and is done virtually instantly since all three have their own separate cooldown so they do not have to wait for each other to complete.

Press a button, three hits appear on the target. Instantly. No committment.

Hiruda · February 2019

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

Are macros even against the rules?

Yep.

In the TOS: https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/terms-of-service#_EN_Toc_09

9. YOUR USE OF THE SERVICES

You further agree not to access, create, or provide any other means through which the Services, including, but not limited to, any Game(s), may be used or accessed by others, such as through server emulators.

You may not participate, take part in, initiate, or engage in actions that impose an unreasonable or disproportionate load on the infrastructure hosting the Game(s) and/or Services.

You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services. Third party tools, the use of "bots", "speed hacks", "deep-link", "page-scrape", "robot", "spider", algorithms or other programs that copy or monitor any part of the Services (including, but not limited to, the Game(s) and/or forums), software that transmits, manipulates, or distributes (including, but are limited to, "mirroring") the data stream or any aspect of the Services to another computer, server websites or other publication or distribution media, or software that permits You to use Services without human input are examples of methods not authorized by ZeniMax.

So mouse and key boardacros are also against the rules then?

Macros would be against the rules, yes. ZOS wants us to be actively controlling our characters. Automation is against the TOS. In the past, they've stated that even rubberbanding/taping your controller is not acceptable. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3858917#Comment_3858917

That really sucks for people with intellectual or physical restrictions who could use them for light attack weaving.

And that's exactly why i cant reach high dps anymore after losing mobility on my left hand ( damaged nerve ), now im stuck to being insulted for not having high dps, cant find any group for vet trial and all that crap
all of that because people have no *** idea of what's going on beside the screen

Elsonso · February 2019

KoultouraS wrote: »

Its called key assignment. I found it via Google.
Razer users assign keys on mouse. Keys not being bound on keyboard via a 3rd party software

Does this fall under this TOS guideline?

You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services

Please elaborate if wrong

This has already come up. Game pads (like G13) have been used with ESO since the first days of the game. This requires key assignment in order to work properly, which can be keys assigned to remapped functions in the game. The potential restrictions in the ToS were noticed.

The use of gaming keyboards and mice are not prohibited, but the use of third-party software or other means of creating macros to automate in-game functions is a violation. Reference This basically means you can assign keys, but each key has to do one thing, and one thing only.

But, as I have already said, if there is any doubt, open a ticket and ask them. However, be aware that players have been using this equipment since Day 1, with the full knowledge of ZOS.

alexj4596b14_ESO · February 2019

Hiruda wrote: »

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

Are macros even against the rules?

Yep.

In the TOS: https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/terms-of-service#_EN_Toc_09

9. YOUR USE OF THE SERVICES

You further agree not to access, create, or provide any other means through which the Services, including, but not limited to, any Game(s), may be used or accessed by others, such as through server emulators.

You may not participate, take part in, initiate, or engage in actions that impose an unreasonable or disproportionate load on the infrastructure hosting the Game(s) and/or Services.

You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services. Third party tools, the use of "bots", "speed hacks", "deep-link", "page-scrape", "robot", "spider", algorithms or other programs that copy or monitor any part of the Services (including, but not limited to, the Game(s) and/or forums), software that transmits, manipulates, or distributes (including, but are limited to, "mirroring") the data stream or any aspect of the Services to another computer, server websites or other publication or distribution media, or software that permits You to use Services without human input are examples of methods not authorized by ZeniMax.

So mouse and key boardacros are also against the rules then?

Macros would be against the rules, yes. ZOS wants us to be actively controlling our characters. Automation is against the TOS. In the past, they've stated that even rubberbanding/taping your controller is not acceptable. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3858917#Comment_3858917

That really sucks for people with intellectual or physical restrictions who could use them for light attack weaving.

And that's exactly why i cant reach high dps anymore after losing mobility on my left hand ( damaged nerve ), now im stuck to being insulted for not having high dps, cant find any group for vet trial and all that crap
all of that because people have no *** idea of what's going on beside the screen

I am thinking about reaching out to ZoS specifically because of this. I know allot of people that play in unconventional ways in MMOs to be able to adapt to these issues and theirs is a clear picture when someone is trying to cheat vs adapt. A cheating macro would do as much damage in a short period of time as possible macro for adapting would replicate as close to possible human input. A adapting macro would also still require a keypress but reduce the amount of keypress required to excute a command.

ZoS could establish clear guidelines for this type of marcoing down to how they want it setup and the time between actions. Anything else could be considered cheating.

Ackwalan · February 2019

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Remember people, ESO is the only online game in existence where it is possible to cheat, but noone actually does!

You heard it here first

On topic: Of couse the picture in the first post is a macro. "But it only shows it once!" - come on, its not like we dont see this happen in cyrodiil every efn day. If it only happened once, he wouldn't even have noticed.

"Super skilled players" who you never saw before even tho you practically live in cyrodiil, landing "light attack+skill+bash" within milliseconds like a clockwork while jumping backwards on rocks. Yeah right.

At least stop the damn denial. It is possible to do this. OF COURSE people are doing it.

Of course it's a macro?
Nah dude..that's animation cancelling.
You're bad at understanding the basic mechanics of this game. Same with the OP.

"Its a macro" and "its animation cancelling" are not mutually exclusive. Its animation cancelling performed by a macro.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Well you have certainly removed all doubt.