The Invisible Postern Wall Glitch

dtsharples · August 2018

Started to see this on actual outer keep walls last night too.
Once at Faregyl and once at Aleswell.
Didn't manage to get a video because the zerg was real.

frozywozy · August 2018

At this point I don't even know anymore what would be considered a problem important enough to require a hotfix in a 24hours duration, or what would be fixed in the next Monday maintenance.

RaddlemanNumber7 · August 2018

I saw this at Sejanus yesterday on Vivec. Everyone was so very well behaved. Nobody hopped through the gap that I saw. Attackers sieged the other two doors. It was really pleasing to see all the players doing the right thing.

The Uninvited · August 2018

To add to this, has anyone also experienced invisible doors? Last night we sieged a main gate and when it was down, all but 4 or 5 players went into the keep while they were stuck running into an invisible door???

frozywozy · August 2018

The Uninvited wrote: »

To add to this, has anyone also experienced invisible doors? Last night we sieged a main gate and when it was down, all but 4 or 5 players went into the keep while they were stuck running into an invisible door???

There is also a bug where the door will be 0 hps on your screen and you won't be able to siege it down. In reality, the door is down on the server and on most of people's screen. You have to reloadui to fix it.

dtsharples · August 2018

Watching 6 or 7 people walk right through a door and then trying yourself and pretty much face-planting into it.
Then being sniped because you are stood there wondering wtf just happened...

The Uninvited wrote: »

To add to this, has anyone also experienced invisible doors? Last night we sieged a main gate and when it was down, all but 4 or 5 players went into the keep while they were stuck running into an invisible door???

ZOS_BrianWheeler · August 2018

Just a heads up, we have been working on this one a while. There have been a several fixes internally, but like an onion, we peel back one fix and find something else causing these invisible walls. We are still working on this however, it's just taking longer than we all want and thank you for your patience.

VaranisArano · August 2018

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Just a heads up, we have been working on this one a while. There have been a several fixes internally, but like an onion, we peel back one fix and find something else causing these invisible walls. We are still working on this however, it's just taking longer than we all want and thank you for your patience.

Good to know you all are working on it!

Question:

In this post: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/278031/cyrodiil-cheating-exploiting-you/p1 Jessica Folsom says,

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

To summarize, if you are using abilities such as gap closers to do things that are not within the realm of intended design and/or bypassing core game mechanics, such as entering keeps without downing doors and/or walls and getting under the environment (ground, water, etc.), you are exploiting. In short: don’t do it. If we catch you exploiting and/or cheating, even once, it is grounds for disciplinary action up to and including a permanent ban of your game account. If in doubt about whether or not certain actions or activity are considered exploiting, you are welcome to ask us here on the forums.

Taking advantage of these invisible walls certain seems like bypassing core game mechanics, such as entering keeps without downing doors and/or walls to me.

Can you comment on the issue of taking advantage of invisible walls as an exploit? As we still see players taking advantage of the invisible walls, it would be nice to have a more specific comment on the situation, especially if these layers of problems are causing a delay in getting a fix rolled out.

Universe · August 2018

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Just a heads up, we have been working on this one a while. There have been a several fixes internally, but like an onion, we peel back one fix and find something else causing these invisible walls. We are still working on this however, it's just taking longer than we all want and thank you for your patience.

That's good

Hopefully you will fix it soon.

P.S - I hope you will have a fix for the IC exploit in the near future.
You know of what I speak

Recremen · August 2018

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Just a heads up, we have been working on this one a while. There have been a several fixes internally, but like an onion, we peel back one fix and find something else causing these invisible walls. We are still working on this however, it's just taking longer than we all want and thank you for your patience.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

I'm glad you're working on it from this end, but is there also work being done to discourage intentionally exploiting the bug? Nothing says "we do not tolerate exploits" like a 1-month ban.

Koolio · August 2018

Recremen wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Just a heads up, we have been working on this one a while. There have been a several fixes internally, but like an onion, we peel back one fix and find something else causing these invisible walls. We are still working on this however, it's just taking longer than we all want and thank you for your patience.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

I'm glad you're working on it from this end, but is there also work being done to discourage intentionally exploiting the bug? Nothing says "we do not tolerate exploits" like a 1-month ban.

That’s exactly what needs to happen. Banning 50% of pvp playerbase right before new game season.

I asked this when it was first noticed. We needed you to fix this ASAP but now 6 months goes by and 150 people get banned per platform.

Recremen · August 2018

Koolio wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Just a heads up, we have been working on this one a while. There have been a several fixes internally, but like an onion, we peel back one fix and find something else causing these invisible walls. We are still working on this however, it's just taking longer than we all want and thank you for your patience.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

I'm glad you're working on it from this end, but is there also work being done to discourage intentionally exploiting the bug? Nothing says "we do not tolerate exploits" like a 1-month ban.

That’s exactly what needs to happen. Banning 50% of pvp playerbase right before new game season.

I asked this when it was first noticed. We needed you to fix this ASAP but now 6 months goes by and 150 people get banned per platform.

I mean a one-month ban is more lenient than the permaban some people got for other kinds of exploits.

Priyasekarssk · August 2018

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

It was only a matter of time until we saw an entire guild take advantage of it.

Last night an entire guild walked into Bleakers through an invisible postern wall (invisible only to them, mind you), set a ram on the front flag and killed every player that ported in since they could just sit on the transit. Once the outpost flagged, they flipped it with little effort.

For those that are unaware, this counts an exploit since it is taking advantage of a glitch / bug in the game. [edit to remove baiting comment]

I have seen some DCs doing it intentionally and happens everyday. Being NBs is very convienient for them. Who cares ?

Feanor · August 2018

Universe wrote: »

[...]
You know of what I speak

A great Eye, lidless, wreathed in flame?

edges_endgame · August 2018

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

It was only a matter of time until we saw an entire guild take advantage of it.

Last night an entire guild walked into Bleakers through an invisible postern wall (invisible only to them, mind you), set a ram on the front flag and killed every player that ported in since they could just sit on the transit. Once the outpost flagged, they flipped it with little effort.

For those that are unaware, this counts an exploit since it is taking advantage of a glitch / bug in the game. [edit to remove baiting comment]

I have seen some DCs doing it intentionally and happens everyday. Being NBs is very convienient for them. Who cares ?

I care.

Heike · August 2018

I haven’t looked back at every page, but has anyone else noticed front doors being glitched?

Half of my group could go through a front door, and half couldn’t.

The door was down and opponents were seiging through the doorway at us, as we were trying to “break it down”... and we wiped. lol

WTH?!?!?

DoccEff · August 2018

Bug is still in the game.
FIX THIS ***!!!

ScruffyWhiskers · August 2018

Post patch I'm sure you guys are getting bug reports but just to make sure, you should know that Aleswell architecture ghosts in and out for me when you move around it. This happens especially at the doors.

Also, Dragonclaw did not have a transit portal for me. I couldn't see or interact with it but I think other players could.

k, thnx. bye.

frozywozy · August 2018

ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »

Post patch I'm sure you guys are getting bug reports but just to make sure, you should know that Aleswell architecture ghosts in and out for me when you move around it. This happens especially at the doors.

Also, Dragonclaw did not have a transit portal for me. I couldn't see or interact with it but I think other players could.

k, thnx. bye.

It happens for all structures with postern houses. It's a new bug introduced with the patch.

Feanor · August 2018

frozywozy wrote: »

ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »

Post patch I'm sure you guys are getting bug reports but just to make sure, you should know that Aleswell architecture ghosts in and out for me when you move around it. This happens especially at the doors.

Also, Dragonclaw did not have a transit portal for me. I couldn't see or interact with it but I think other players could.

k, thnx. bye.

It happens for all structures with postern houses. It's a new bug introduced with the patch.

So, how long is it now that they told you they are "aware"?

I know Wheeler posted that it isn't an easy fix apparently, but I find it amusing keep degradation and keep recall stones (features nobody asked for) got valuable coding time while the walls still disappear.

valeriiya · August 2018

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Just a heads up, we have been working on this one a while. There have been a several fixes internally, but like an onion, we peel back one fix and find something else causing these invisible walls. We are still working on this however, it's just taking longer than we all want and thank you for your patience.

"We have no idea what the issue is because we put crappy code on top of code and can never work backwards. But don't worry, the Crown Store is totally fine!"

dotme · August 2018

Heike wrote: »

I haven’t looked back at every page, but has anyone else noticed front doors being glitched?

Half of my group could go through a front door, and half couldn’t.

The door was down and opponents were seiging through the doorway at us, as we were trying to “break it down”... and we wiped. lol

WTH?!?!?

If you turn up to a keep, the front door is at 0% and yet it still appears to be closed, I've found running/riding away from it for a short distance and then returning to the door fixes the glitch and then it's open. Probably a draw distance thing, since I believe they played around with draw distances a bit with update 18

Puzzlenuts · August 2018

Heimpai wrote: »

Had a glitch earlier where i used ambush and hit an EP guy who was going into his keep and it glitched me through (had no idea that was possible) but once they killed me 10v1 they tbagged me..

As if i was in the wrong..

That happened to me as well, minus the teabag

DoccEff · August 2018

Can't we just get pre-Summerset Cyrodiil back? It still had bugs ofc, but not game-breaking ones like this.

Cuthceol · August 2018

valeriiya wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

ZOS_JesC wrote: »

Greetings, we've removed a few comments for naming and shaming. This is a reminder that naming and shaming as well as baiting comments aimed at another individual or group is against the forum rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Hey, I don't wanna tell you how to do your job or anything, but if you can take a sec away from defending the naming from the shaming, how's about firing off an email or walking down the hall or whatever it takes to tell someone that can do stuff that the game is completely broken?

If you can manage to squeeze that in before your lunch break, we'd all really appreciate it.

Thank you for saying what everyone else is thinking.

yeah thanks for taking the warning they're gonna give you for that

dtsharples · August 2018

Vanishing walls that suddenly re-appear, then flicker back out of existence.
Doors that swivel like a revolving door and fling you back outside.
Doors that appear real but aren't.
Doors that look open but aren't.
Walking under keep foundations undetected.
Falling through the world.

It's all very Stranger Things / Twilight Zone

cabriogirl95 · August 2018

dtsharples wrote: »

Vanishing walls that suddenly re-appear, then flicker back out of existence.
Doors that swivel like a revolving door and fling you back outside.
Doors that appear real but aren't.
Doors that look open but aren't.
Walking under keep foundations undetected.
Falling through the world.

It's all very Stranger Things / Twilight Zone

Haha, absolutely. Welcome to the upside-down

killimandrosb16_ESO · August 2018

well, at least something amusing happened. I was escaping an incapping NB through the postern. He tries to ambush me through the door, then the stairs glitch and disappear.Last thing I see is a long banana face staring at me as he falls through the world

Feanor · August 2018

4.1.6 apparently has a fix now.

frozywozy · August 2018

Feanor wrote: »

4.1.6 apparently has a fix now.

I'm pretty sure that fix has nothing to do with the postern door or the new flashing postern house but one can hope they simply didn't phrase it right and that the major flaw they introduced with summerset is finally getting addressed months later.