The Invisible Postern Wall Glitch

Agrippa_Invisus

Feanor wrote: »

4.0.9. Patch notes don’t mention this at all, so I guess they have faith the issue fixes itself with general performance improvements.

Glad to see that, as always, they're right on top of issues that affect the PVP community.

zyk

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

4.0.9. Patch notes don’t mention this at all, so I guess they have faith the issue fixes itself with general performance improvements.

Glad to see that, as always, they're right on top of issues that affect the PVP community.

Gift a friend some Crown Crates, that might make you feel better.

Just another day in Skyrim Nexus Online.

Agrippa_Invisus

zyk wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

4.0.9. Patch notes don’t mention this at all, so I guess they have faith the issue fixes itself with general performance improvements.

Glad to see that, as always, they're right on top of issues that affect the PVP community.

Gift a friend some Crown Crates, that might make you feel better.

Just another day in Skyrim Nexus Online.

Not happening in a million years at this rate.

Preyfar

zyk wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Please stop completely ignoring major PVP issues like this one. We deserve acknowledgement, at least.

A major exploit (and people ARE exploiting it) should result in a much higher priority fix, but PVP exploits rarely ever get priority. Some linger for months. =/

Potenza

Correction - can walk right through

ZOS_JesC

Greetings, we've removed a few comments for naming and shaming. This is a reminder that naming and shaming as well as baiting comments aimed at another individual or group is against the forum rules. Thank you for your understanding.

projectscience

ZOS_JesC wrote: »

Greetings, we've removed a few comments for naming and shaming. This is a reminder that naming and shaming as well as baiting comments aimed at another individual or group is against the forum rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Appreciated. But it would be refreshing to see ZOS take as much care fixing bugs like this as their mods parse the forum for naming an shaming.

Elong

ZOS_JesC wrote: »

Greetings, we've removed a few comments for naming and shaming. This is a reminder that naming and shaming as well as baiting comments aimed at another individual or group is against the forum rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Could we instead have someone fix it?

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Maybe we could name and shame the postern door bug so it gets removed too ?

Jadokis

Bless this bug. I didn't have to worry about my character being able to open a door to get inside an inner postern while being chased by a dozen people. Keep it in until they can fix doors imo.

Sandman929

ZOS_JesC wrote: »

Greetings, we've removed a few comments for naming and shaming. This is a reminder that naming and shaming as well as baiting comments aimed at another individual or group is against the forum rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Hey, I don't wanna tell you how to do your job or anything, but if you can take a sec away from defending the naming from the shaming, how's about firing off an email or walking down the hall or whatever it takes to tell someone that can do stuff that the game is completely broken?

If you can manage to squeeze that in before your lunch break, we'd all really appreciate it.

valeriiya

Sandman929 wrote: »

ZOS_JesC wrote: »

Greetings, we've removed a few comments for naming and shaming. This is a reminder that naming and shaming as well as baiting comments aimed at another individual or group is against the forum rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Hey, I don't wanna tell you how to do your job or anything, but if you can take a sec away from defending the naming from the shaming, how's about firing off an email or walking down the hall or whatever it takes to tell someone that can do stuff that the game is completely broken?

If you can manage to squeeze that in before your lunch break, we'd all really appreciate it.

Thank you for saying what everyone else is thinking.

SwampRaider

Perhaps if everyone starts doing it, ZOS will just name it an RNG feature.

Some daedric god going around and randomly making doors disappear for you if you pray to them..

Last week I was literally defending a Bleakers FD attack and 10 EP jumped through the North postern wall and tried to kill us.

We were so upset we had to ult train them, instead of using that ultimate to jump on the FD rammers

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

I know you are struggling with busy days because you are designing the perfect pvp patch, right? take time out of your day and fix this

FENGRUSH

Sent a tweet for it @Agrippa_Invisus - just saw that last night first time:

https://clips.twitch.tv/SassyHandsomeShingleNotLikeThis

Agrippa_Invisus

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Sent a tweet for it @Agrippa_Invisus - just saw that last night first time:

https://clips.twitch.tv/SassyHandsomeShingleNotLikeThis

Yup. That's it.

Always good to have video so ZOS can see how poorly coded the product they're producing is.

I'm not even upset by how this can be abused by players who aren't willing to have a little self awareness and do the right thing. Nope. The thing that upsets me is this is just another glaring sign of how little ZOS cares and how sloppy their game code is.

After all those promises of how Cyrodiil would work better after Summerset dropped -- to the point I actually spent my money on that terrible expansion -- we get this low quality junk dumped in our laps and it still isn't fixed.

Any other PVP focused game that had an exploit so obvious would've been patched within 24-48 hours. But why should I get my hopes up? This is the same company that let garbage like the Caltops/No Siege Damage bug linger for months and then actively celebrated guilds that serially exploited it.

Anyways, thanks for the Twitch clip of it happening. It's appreciated.

Ackwalan

This is an old bug that has returned. Anyone player that claims to have been playing for years and using this bug, with the I didn't know excuse, is intentionally cheating.

Agrippa_Invisus

Happened again last night at Sejanus. We had to have 5-6 players just watching a 100% repaired postern while the front door went down just to prevent people from abusing the exploit.

Gankers and solos just kept running in and out of the keep while we were trying to defend against all the players who know how to play without exploiting. In the end, it made it impossible to defend and the outpost flipped.

Fix this, ZOS.

Not acceptable.

valeriiya

Last night, PS4 NA
https://imgur.com/a/K4Lojms


edit{i can't ever get the pictures to display correctly, i'm sorry}

umagon

Here are the things I noticed about the bug:

You can not hit players/npc with siege weapons even if you target though the opening. It will just hit an invisible wall.

You can not hit player/npc with attacks nor can you pull them through the bugged wall.

It seems that in some part the player – environment collision is being maintained client side, and not checked by the server. Which if true could potentially be abused.

The state if the wall is down or up from the server to client could be what is getting messed up; because if you leave the area far enough or teleport to a different to keep and come back the wall’s state will refresh and it will be intact.

zyk

umagon wrote: »

It seems that in some part the player – environment collision is being maintained client side, and not checked by the server. Which if true could potentially be abused.

This is the case and it has been abused.

There have been times when objects like rocks have been missing for one faction, but not others. For example, DC players would be able to run inside where the rock should be and players of other factions would not be able to follow or hit them.

There are also times when the client won't render some keep geometry like walls and doors to some players, in which case those affected can walk through where it's supposed to be.. There is a rumor that there's a way to reproduce this bug at will, though no proof exists that I am aware of.

Also, because collision is client-side and ESO is vulnerable to memory hacking, there is no reason why that technique couldn't be used to remove geometry. Before a known memory hacker was banned, he published a video of him abusing missing doors in outposts.

There is an old video of an entire group who happened to not have dolmen geometry render. They were able to escape inside to where the dolmen was supposed to be and the group they were fighting was not able to hit them.

So yeah, collision is client-side.

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER

PUSH PUSH PUSH THIS NEEDS A HOTFIX ASAP!

ITS OUT SINCE SUMMERSET - A MAJOR GLITCH THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE ABUSING. INSTEAD OF PROTECTING EXPLOITERS WITH THIS STUPID NAMING AND SHAMING RULE FIX THIS BUG PLEASE!!!

Karivaa

Happened to us last night on Xbox NA in Sotha Sil. Blues walked right into sejanus. We kept killing them so they stopped but this would be annoying if they could have killed us.

Adenoma

So now we know this is on three platforms. That seems like an issue worth a dev comment.

danno8

So I haven't played Cyro since SI dropped, does this bug mean that the wall is open or closed?

Does it happen after repairing or does it glitch out after sieging or something else?

Or maybe it happens after a flip?

Sigma957

Saw an AD group go take back their scroll by going through a postern door that was at 100% health the other week.

Ghostbane

Attaching an entry boundary state to a texture being present is super efficient. [snip] Can't wait for the Midsummer event with this.

[edited for baiting]

Recremen

This glitch is incredibly annoying. You show up to siege somewhere, rejoice for a half second because the wall is down, then realize nope lol the door is still there you have to knock down the wall for real except now you have a much smaller target to hit because your ballista bolts go right through! Every good honest PvPer hates this glitch.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Zos just added a training aid to help teach pugs not to hit the door by showing the parts of the walls which collapse idk what the fuss is about

Rohamad_Ali

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Sent a tweet for it @Agrippa_Invisus - just saw that last night first time:

https://clips.twitch.tv/SassyHandsomeShingleNotLikeThis

You are a good player @FENGRUSH . Thank you for showing .

Darkmage1337

@ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Take the PC NA mega-server offline for an emergency maintenance / incremental patch and fix these Cyrodiil glitches if they cannot be corrected via hot-fixes..

EDIT: Just take a look at @FENGRUSH 's stream/video and @Agrippa_Invisus 's screenshot. What more evidence do you need to see the obvious problem occurring in Cyrodiil? Fix your broken game.